| if you didnt notice yet.. anime is edgy |
| Idk where did you see so many of those. When I was active in recommendations forum I saw requests for such things maybe once every few days. OP protagonists more often, but that's a different thing. As for "why": it's only natural to be fed up with shounen protagonists that always forgive their enemies and win with friendship powers and rainbows. |
| This just in: there are children watching anime. |
| Watching anime at a young age edgy shit can be cool af to you and impress you. Some people grow out of it, some dont :shrug: |
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| I am a shounen girl as I do not like too many main characters dying!! |
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| "Normal" people dont really know the ways of being edgy or cool but anime fans watched too much anime and copy cat what their idea from anime to form their edgy |
DoubleMangekyo said: I don't think there's ever been a buzzword that I grew to hate more. Thanks, MAL/Souls community... Energetic-Nova said: Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't a shonen anime though. Tokyo Ghoul is though. So is Yugioh. Uhhh, no? Regardless of what you, I, or anyone else may think of the series, Tokyo Ghoul was published in a seinen magazine. As if it makes a difference. It is a male target demographic and yet you still like it. XD And you in particular like Mirai Nikki. I don't even know why people bother be all like "I hate whiny protags" and then like Mirai Nikki. Seriously. I am not the one who runs around saying "oh I hate when characters cry" and crap like that yet they like plenty of stuff where characters do nothing but cry. It is annoying. Just say you don't like it, move on. But no, they wont watch stuff where the anime "looks" childish: example Princess Tutu, even though it might be good. I don't like Mirai Nikki or Tokyo Ghoul. But I also don't like One Punch Man even though I generally like many super hero anime. But you know what? Super power is in my bottom 3. Action is my least favorite genre according to ratings. And if I happen to like Inuyasha, well, yeah. But I also don't bar myself from watching anything with an action tag. Or any tag period. Tokyo Ghoul is better though. And I don't think it is Tokyo Ghoul's fault for not appealing to me. It was however, the last anime I watched to completion through my local anime club. In fact, I have a hard time figuring out what I wont watch. For me, it is a long runner without a dub and not in the space genre. XD It is too difficult to focus as it is on a genre I have #1 rating for. And I take so so long to finish all of them no matter how much I love them. I just have a hard time watching subs but I do it because I love the show. And at least in a space opera, there isn't much action going on on screen. So hey, I have my "thing" too. We all do. But I can't help but be annoyed with most of these people because they point out Shinji and he is literally the best character. But I will admit, Shinji is nothing like Yukiteru or Keneki. Shinji is like Yuri from Yuri on Ice or Yugi from Yugioh. Because he is secretly OP. And I mean Yugi himself. Not Yami. Yami though that is Kaneki sure. but not Yuri, not Yugi, not Kaneki, and definitely not Shinji is like Yukiteru. That would be pretty crap of me to ever say that. You might say "how can you love Yugioh but not Mirai Nikki?" - can't explain other than Yami was a way more compelling death gamer than Yunno. And it can't be sexual elements, because ummm... yeah I like yaoi a lot. And can't be because of certain things because I do like School Days. (which says I have hentai taste). And.... I like Speed Grapher... But yeah MC was just really cool and sexy. The fetishes- yeah hentai taste. Mirai Nikki chose to be very not hentai for whatever reason even though it really should have been- like Parasyte the Maxim. I wasn't insulting Tokyo Ghoul. I was trying to point out it was a male demographic. I have rewatched Yugioh like 10 times. I can't truly throw a stone at anyone for their taste. But I can point out that clearly they got passed the first chunk of episodes and waiting it out. Tenchi Muyo is one of my favorites. And I actually have Shonen in my top 10 "genres". Another character like Shinji, Tenchi from Tenchi Muyo. Full on magical boy transformation sequence. God powers. Shit like that. And then running away from girls. Also same uniform. Not that it says much. XD And in the EVa orignal series and Tenchi OVA, Shinji and Tenchi do sit in the same seating. Middle, towards the front. Not in the back window. And Tenchi is very much unique feeling and insanely likable by comparison with a lot of others... I don't know if there are people who hate him in particular. But I admit, I hate Yukiteru as much as I hate Misaki from Junjo Romantica. You could say I am a Beta Male connoisseur. Shinji is a very cute shota beta, but I do love how much Kintaro Oi loves to be submissive and wants to girls at the same time and finds women of power sexy. A+ It is obvious why I would be disappointed by titles like Mirai Nikki and Tokyo Ghoul. They just... weren't what I actually wanted in a gorefest anime (in terms of how the gore was done) And in terms of characters which I think contribute to really bland fanfiction archtypes which BTW, are frequently seen in fanfiction I read. WHEN BAKURA IS DRUNK HE HATES KARAOKE AND LOVES RAPE AND MURDER. lol fuck. I don't know any drunk people who don't love some good Karaoke. But seriously,I have Shonen ranked at 10, and seinen ranked at #33. I have not rated that demographic well at all, and it is the lowest placing one of the 4 demographics. Shoujo is #6 and Jousei is #18 (being weighed down by some shonen ai titles). But not being weighed down by gore, because Petshop of horrors has a good rating from me. |
Energetic-NovaJan 17, 2018 5:23 AM
The anime community in a nutshell.  |
| Some people just like to watch anime that explore dark plots, when everyone is an antihero or when the villain has more brain than the MC and that's nice. I'll give you an example of a anime, which is fantastic and has one of the best protagonists and that is Hellsing Ultimate. Alucard is an MC that is not a pussy and the anime has all that blood, action, violence, gore and darkness, with a really nice plot to top it off. So some people can stand the gore if it's not just for the sake of gore and you may be one of them. |
| ***roaming the vast anime universe*** |
Energetic-Nova said: As if it makes a difference. It is a male target demographic and yet you still like it. XD "And yet"? I'd say it's only natural that a 22-year-old male would like male-targeted stuff. And you in particular like Mirai Nikki. I don't even know why people bother be all like "I hate whiny protags" and then like Mirai Nikki. Seriously. I've no problems with those "whiny protags" as a lot of people seem to. They get stuff done in the end, so I'm satisfied. I am not the one who runs around saying "oh I hate when characters cry" and crap like that yet they like plenty of stuff where characters do nothing but cry. It is annoying. Just say you don't like it, move on. But no, they wont watch stuff where the anime "looks" childish: example Princess Tutu, even though it might be good. Let it all out~ Let it all out~ I've already got Tutu downloaded. I wonder how many months/years it'll be before I get to watching it... I don't like Mirai Nikki or Tokyo Ghoul. But I also don't like One Punch Man even though I generally like many super hero anime. But you know what? Super power is in my bottom 3. Action is my least favorite genre according to ratings. And if I happen to like Inuyasha, well, yeah. But I also don't bar myself from watching anything with an action tag. Or any tag period. Tokyo Ghoul is better though. And I don't think it is Tokyo Ghoul's fault for not appealing to me. It was however, the last anime I watched to completion through my local anime club. I ain't much of a fan of OPM either tbh. It was funny the first time, but after that my interest plummeted so hard. XD You might say "how can you love Yugioh but not Mirai Nikki?" Dunno why anyone would say that as I see very little in common between the two shows besides the supernatural presence. I wasn't insulting Tokyo Ghoul. I was trying to point out it was a male demographic. I have rewatched Yugioh like 10 times. I can't truly throw a stone at anyone for their taste. But I can point out that clearly they got passed the first chunk of episodes and waiting it out. Tenchi Muyo is one of my favorites. And I actually have Shonen in my top 10 "genres". Girl, I just like correcting factual errors, don't even care about TG anymore. And Tenchi Muyo is one of my least favourites... Another character like Shinji, Tenchi from Tenchi Muyo. Full on magical boy transformation sequence. God powers. Shit like that. And then running away from girls. Also same uniform. Not that it says much. XD And in the EVa orignal series and Tenchi OVA, Shinji and Tenchi do sit in the same seating. Middle, towards the front. Not in the back window. And Tenchi is very much unique feeling and insanely likable by comparison with a lot of others... I don't know if there are people who hate him in particular. I don't know how you'll take this. Funny story really, there was a point during my watching of Tenchi Muyo where I forgot the titular character even existed. Laughed so hard when I realized. I think it was the second set of OVAs. All that said, I barely remember anything from the series. But seriously,I have Shonen ranked at 10, and seinen ranked at #33. I have not rated that demographic well at all, and it is the lowest placing one of the 4 demographics. Shoujo is #6 and Jousei is #18 (being weighed down by some shonen ai titles). But not being weighed down by gore, because Petshop of horrors has a good rating from me. Oh, I like this game! According to my MALgraph I got: #22 - Shoujo (24 titles) #31 - Josei (5 titles) #34 - Shounen (165 titles) #36 - Seinen (102 titles) |
| it should be natural to want some death in an action anime (depending on the setting), there will be wars going on yet they will have like 1 person die for emotional impact (2 if they come in a pair like lovers or something), that's not as realistic and suspenseful as one where you don't know who will die. Also sometimes you just want that violence riddled anime, I know a lot of battle shounen fans like the fights enough to watch AMV's of the fights or just rewatch the fights in general so I don't see why they cant understand someone might want to watch an over the top anime like terra formars, where you get to know the characters enough to get a sense of who they are and why they fight, without screwing up the action too much (though it sucks how that approach easily throws up death flags left and right, and screw them for making my favorite characters name be adolf lol) |
| Cause people are tired of beta-cuck MC's that are scared to kill people and fuck bitches. Honestly it depends on the type of show, but yeah anime MC's are getting too boring and predictable being all overly polite with their boyscout do-gooder attitudes and their indecisive doormat personalities. We need some MC's that have a sense of humor and can fuck with people and don't get pushed around so easily. |
LoneWolfJan 17, 2018 1:07 PM
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| because a lot of weebs are really socially awkward and just weird dont associate with weebs.. Not every anime watcher is a weeb btw. I don't think there's anything I hate more than weebs.. Honestly. I don't even know what I'd categorize as weeby honestly.. Besides the obvious things.. You usually just know if someone is a weeb. And you're trolling right OP? How is wanting an actual realistic male MC an edgy thing? An actual irl male wouldn't be afraid of a female touching him IRL.. Unless hes.. Gay? Idek. Even the most "beta" males wouldn't be scared.. |
| because we all live behind a screen. sure someone can dox the edge out of someone but unless you live in a shithole country (who's names we all know), laws against doxing people can carry weight. in the end, we are anonymous |
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| Because most anime mc's are inherently the same, therefore act the same. In other words, they are predictable. I wouldn't call it "edgy", but characters with less morals just happen to be more interesting to watch and develop. It's not that difficult to comprehend. |
The dog necklace brings it home. I don’t even mind the misshapen chest. |
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DoubleMangekyo said: because Petshop of horrors has a good rating from me. Oh, I like this game! According to my MALgraph I got: #22 - Shoujo (24 titles) #31 - Josei (5 titles) #34 - Shounen (165 titles) #36 - Seinen (102 titles)[/quote] I love MAL graph so much. XD I have 118 shonen titles, 63 shoujo titles, 16 Jousei titles, 70 seinen titles. So I watch more Shoujo and Josei than you and you watch more Shounen and Seinen than me. |
| The anime community in a nutshell. |
| Because 90% anime characters are edge-lords |
| They don't have to be killers or emotionless killing machine, but they do have to be interesting. |
| Go play on the train tracks or something, loser. |
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lazyking88 said: monochrome-kiss said: LOL, why don't you get a damn clue? You can't even have a sensible argument without resorting to insults. Never watched Akame Ga Kill myself, and maybe it does have extreme violence just for the shock factor. There are quite a few shows that do. But there are plenty more anime shows that don't do this. And people who watch this kind of thing are not trying to be "edgy". That's simply what they like. Seems like you are the one trying to be edgy with your whole "i'm totally not okay with some people having different tastes to me" stint. And since we're talking about shows that use violence simply for the shock factor, as I've already said that is not an anime exclusive thing. Have you ever watched the Saw films or any kind of violent horror film produce by the US lately? They do exactly the same thing. First of all I'm not talking about American media. Those movies are just as bad. And I was trying to have a decent conversation but you're just to dense and couldn't pick up on the points I was making and twisted what I was trying to say. There's a limit to how stupid you can be before it becomes unforgivable. You're part of the reason why so many anime these days are lackluster. The community does nothing to trying to solve the problem and blindly accepts it. So because someone disagrees with you, they are the reason anime is lackluster these days? And there's some decent anime out there if you bother to look. You would probably find it if you stopped complaining about something that isn't even a problem. |
| Probably just live in their own little world or something Delusion is 100% real |
| Well when I was like 12 i thought violence=mature. Violence is pretty much not in the equation of whether or not I'll watch an anime now. |
Monster said: exactly, thats why "anti-heroes" are popular, they break away from the norm, also a world of gray is a lot more interesting than a world of black and white (though if done right it can still be great)Because most anime mc's are inherently the same, therefore act the same. In other words, they are predictable. I wouldn't call it "edgy", but characters with less morals just happen to be more interesting to watch and develop. It's not that difficult to comprehend. |
| There aren't that much edgy real-life shows, so most edgy fans get segregated to the anime community. |
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| Wanting to see an assertive, strong-willed protagonist that isn't your stereotypical idiot hero is not called edgy. It's called wanting something different. |
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| Most of them are really young, I guess. We were all edgy in that age, unfortunately is just normal. Some, for our misery, will never grow up. :( |
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| Well, that's not the only reason I'd call someone "edgy". I know a lot of people (in real life) who just hit puberty and are really, really, reeeaaaalllyyy edgy and annoying and they hate anime (even though they don't know how to name me one) but watch "horror" and overrated netflix shows. It may be just a phase. I also think wanting to see brave MCs is not edgy. I personally don't care about MC's personality, I just don't want to get too bored of it. |
| 1. Because the strange ones stand out. You don't notice the normal ones. 2. Sub-cultures are liked by minority. Majority can't relate and tries to makes sense by stereotyping. 3.Sub-culture itself. Anime's intended audience mostly stay indoors to watch the anime. Meaning people who are heavily invested would spend most of their time stay indoor, thus poor social skills. For me, I don't think they are weird or nerdy. They are normal when hanging out, but enthusiastic in convention. Its similar to how I became when I go to a football stadium or watch a match. Its easy to judge others as weird or nerdy, they might just think the same of you. There are reasons behind everything people do. |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
| Wanting a non pussy MC is called edgy? We got plenty of those its just no Shounen has those since Shounen are for kids. |
-Mullerio-Nov 25, 2019 12:57 PM
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| It took Franken Stein over a year to turn this one into a zombie. Might as well throw my 2 cents in. Like the saying goes one bad apple spoils the bunch. From the outside if people see someone cosplaying as ryuk or Kaneki sure they will think it is. Personal experience has shown me most of us are just nerds who enjoy the stories that come outta japan or those who grew up with cartoons saw them get worse and looked elsewere for a similar cartoonish style of show and found anime and got hooked. |
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| i feel like you know 6 kids like this and are assuming thats the whole world... most people arent into vast amounts of gore, thats why so few anime have it. the vast majority of anime are light hearted and child friendly because that's what the people want. Also the second majority is scandily clad women... because that is also what the weebs want. |
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lazyking88 said: Electik said: i think bc maybe a lot of fans are looking for more western protags that are rly manly and strong (and emotionless lol). i strongly prefer the "wimpy" protags they show a lot more empathy and rly are more interesting to me, especially seeing their character development! I feel the exact same way. Wimpy mcs get far too much hate and they often turn out to be the sweetest characters. Not every Mc has to be some toxic hyper masculine badass. This is the feeling i get with the majority of these people,they always want the cool,smartbadass mc type which has been overdone,if not more than the wimpy protagonist.I personally really hate that kind of stuff,not only because i think edginess,and grit are overrated,but also because they tend to be empty husks of a character with no room for development,and project an unrealistic image.Honestly,what's wrong with being wimpy,is being scared at certain things that unnatural? |
SummerynNov 25, 2019 1:29 PM
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| I like this circlejerk of a thread. A really nice change of pace, now please do tell me more about your arbitrary conclusion might as well pull some numbers out of your ass while you're at it. |
AstZeroNov 25, 2019 2:08 PM
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
cookies0 said: I think you are conflating having a backbone with "edgy"-ness. We are just simply fed up with the overused tropes. I'm sure you don't enjoy pushover MC's either. Ayy i'm glad somebody gets it. Holy shit. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
| I dunno...I like everything from dark tragedy porn and horror to cutesy, feel-good comedies...so I wouldn't necessarily call myself "edgy". I really can't watch live-action horror...like, at all. I'm not fond of 'kill'em-all" endings either. |
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| Because they think it's cool and or badass to be edgy |
| The internet has made that word mean nothing, just like the word cringe. |
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| Majority Anime is usually targeted to teenagers (hence the term shonen) so that's why everything around it seems to be that way (age of characters, themes, relationships and so on). Also that's barely the surface. Of course there is more and not everyone is like that, but again, the biggest fandoms have at least one edgy character that teens thinks is cool or badass, which is almost a term for edgy). Characters like Sasuke, Bakugo, Eren, Thorfinn (teenager), everyone on Death Note, Lelouch and so on are edgy as hell, but their community say "There are cool guys". Also, the 90's and 2000 were the era of edgelords and emos, of course those cultures marked at least two generations. |
| well edge was popular. the spear finisher, he had a sexy girl named lita. |
| Because edgy characters are interesting and badass like Akechi, Accelerator, and Shadow. |
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| I would like too see some who arent pussies i think a mc like that with a good story is a good match |
| Don't fuck up the present, it's connected to your future! |
Itachi said: it's a shame that you haven't yet. :LWatching anime at a young age edgy shit can be cool af to you and impress you. Some people grow out of it, some dont :shrug: |
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