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Jul 6, 2019 9:35 AM
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When ever I browse social media or watch videos on youtube I see so much hate for millennials.
Like millennials are lazy, entitled, they are so easily offended, have no respect for anyone, this and that, etc.

Are any of these criticism valid or are they nothing more then mere generalizations and guilt by association that unfairly stereotypes entire generation?
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Jul 6, 2019 9:44 AM
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of course it's a generalization, the stereotype exists for a reason though, the generation that is known for creating "safe spaces" for example an basically a lot of things that basically boils down to protecting people's feelings is more important than people's freedoms
Jul 6, 2019 10:02 AM
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eh, i mean, i think the advancements of technology and society makes previous generations jealous. this happens like every generation...

for example, i grew up with dial up internet speeds, sharing 100kilobytes per sec with 3 people. i would need to let a youtube video sit there for 5 mins or more, and then watch it at low res.
when i download video games, i would leave my computer on for like 5+ days, and pray to GOD there is no disconnections or else id have to start all over again.

my friends younger siblings all have ipads and etc, and they complain at the smallest hint of lag when they all have like... 10x my internet speed. I love technology and can't help but be jealous that they get a better head start. "Entitled", yeah, sometimes, but im probably seen as entitled to those more older than me so its fair lol.

not all are "entitled" or (x) generalization though, i dont wanna be like that teacher who keeps the entire class in because only a few fuck up.

Jul 6, 2019 10:06 AM
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That's more of a generation thing and has been there for thousands of years:

Jul 6, 2019 10:07 AM
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@jesteri- being jealous of the technology? Lol yeah that's totally it /sarcasm
Jul 6, 2019 10:09 AM
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I'm a millennial, and I'm a lazy degenerate who has no respect for anyone.
So maybe the stereotypes are true.
Jul 6, 2019 10:14 AM
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difference in values. society is always evolving whether we like it or not.
what seems right for the older generation isn’t the case for the younger, however absurd it may seem to the older. an experience of the unknown or not understood is uncomfortable.

young people lack perspective, older people have it all.
Jul 6, 2019 10:25 AM
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Can't wait for my generations turn on the dartboard in a couple've years
Jul 6, 2019 10:28 AM
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because all we do is fap to anime then shake hands with old heads w/o washing
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Rowan_F said:
Can't wait for my generations turn on the dartboard in a couple've years
are you generation z? Because right now they are more known as the tide pod eating generation lol (by those that know generation z even exists, I think most people just lump them in with millennials)
Jul 6, 2019 11:03 AM

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Another generational thread...

Believe you're whatever you are, but the real children of the atom era know like any other era: work hard, play hard all in self-pursuit of our interests. We don't have/get days off..
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Killaclown said:
Rowan_F said:
Can't wait for my generations turn on the dartboard in a couple've years
are you generation z? Because right now they are more known as the tide pod eating generation lol (by those that know generation z even exists, I think most people just lump them in with millennials)

Yeah, I'm gen z, but I refuse to eat a tide pod.
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Rowan_F said:
Killaclown said:
are you generation z? Because right now they are more known as the tide pod eating generation lol (by those that know generation z even exists, I think most people just lump them in with millennials)

Yeah, I'm gen z, but I refuse to eat a tide pod.
if they came with marshmallows would you change your mind? (Internet deadpool reference)
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Killaclown said:
Rowan_F said:

Yeah, I'm gen z, but I refuse to eat a tide pod.
if they came with marshmallows would you change your mind? (Internet deadpool reference)

.........................maybe
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Rowan_F said:
Killaclown said:
are you generation z? Because right now they are more known as the tide pod eating generation lol (by those that know generation z even exists, I think most people just lump them in with millennials)

Yeah, I'm gen z, but I refuse to eat a tide pod.

The millennial generation ends at the year 2000 (the millennium) Therefore you are a millennial.
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They keep evolution and human rights at bay.
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Bobby2Hands said:
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Yeah, I'm gen z, but I refuse to eat a tide pod.

The millennial generation ends at the year 2000 (the millennium) Therefore you are a millennial.

Both gens crossover in the 90's, so 1999 is socially gen z. I hang around with people the same age as me who are undoubtedly gen z, so I'm gen z
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Rowan_F said:
Bobby2Hands said:

The millennial generation ends at the year 2000 (the millennium) Therefore you are a millennial.

Both gens crossover in the 90's, so 1999 is socially gen z. I hang around with people the same age as me who are undoubtedly gen z, so I'm gen z

Dude, the whole reason they are called "millennials" is because the cutoff point is at the millenium. (the year 2000)
If you are born in 1999 then you are among the youngest and last of the millenials.
Jul 6, 2019 12:23 PM

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Shoryuuken said:
They keep evolution and human rights at bay.

Evolution is a natural process.

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That's more of a generation thing and has been there for thousands of years:

Socrates? More like Sexistes.

@Rowan_F @Bobby2Hands Millennials are considered born between the turn of the century and 1980s roughly. I don't know why you are even having a debate. The three of us are millennials by definition.
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Socrates? More like Sexistes.
What do you mean and what makes you think so?
Jul 6, 2019 1:13 PM

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I think you can find that answer by using something called a Google search.
Jul 6, 2019 1:22 PM
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I think you can find that answer by using something called a Google search.




“Human behavior flows from three main sources: desire, emotion, and knowledge. ”
― Plato
Jul 6, 2019 1:29 PM

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Because Gen X (your parents) has been stealing from them and the well ran dry.
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Silverstorm said:
Another generational thread...

Believe you're whatever you are, but the real children of the atom era know like any other era: work hard, play hard all in self-pursuit of our interests. We don't have/get days off..


That was stupidest dumbest thing I've ever read ever.
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Xstasy said:

“Human behavior flows from three main sources: desire, emotion, and knowledge. ”
― Plato


Imagine preferring Plato over actual statistical research. Here's a bro/pro tip: Avoid philosophy.

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Millennials are utterly incapable of creating anything. All they do is destroy.

Millennials make me nostalgic for when boomers were the most annoying generation alive. I thought I hated boomers, but they were a goddamn godsend compared to these vermin, who are ruining humanity itself.

Death to millennials. They are the most garbage generation of all time.


There's some truth to this. Hopefully, Generation Z isn't so pessimistic and pseudo-intellectual.
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Sephiroth1335 said:
Silverstorm said:
Another generational thread...

Believe you're whatever you are, but the real children of the atom era know like any other era: work hard, play hard all in self-pursuit of our interests. We don't have/get days off..


That was stupidest dumbest thing I've ever read ever.
Probably cause you're a millennial--its ok, this thread is dedicated to your lack of ability.
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Making a long story short, because we suck. But then every generation sucks in different ways, because each period of time has its sucking points. So sucking isn't even that sucky in my opinion.
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did you make a thread because you got offended?

Jul 6, 2019 2:58 PM
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In social media it's really easy for vocal minorities to seem bigger than they actually are so I don't think the labels are warranted. But then again I'm Generation Z so what do I know.
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@Thanakos

Yes Imagine by John Lennon is a nice song indeed.

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The boomers are trying to shift the blame for their destruction of western society on generations after them. First it was Gen X, then (and now still to an extent) Millennials, and now Zoomers. Of course there are plenty of individual boomers who are decent people, but collectively their generation has created at least 90% of the problems the west faces now.
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The problem are not millennials the problem are sjw and feminist who happen to be millennial.
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I blame Millennials's awfulness on the 00's.

What good ever came from the early 00s? Everything that is stereotypically cancer for America and the rest of the world over came from this period. Bush, 9/11, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Fred Durst, Limp Bizkit, MTV. Nevada-tan was a horrible meme. I totally agree with the ED article about it, and I hated ED.
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babecobop1 said:
Millennials are utterly incapable of creating anything. All they do is destroy.

Millennials make me nostalgic for when boomers were the most annoying generation alive. I thought I hated boomers, but they were a goddamn godsend compared to these vermin, who are ruining humanity itself.

Death to millennials. They are the most garbage generation of all time.

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Probably cause you're a millennial--its ok, this thread is dedicated to your lack of ability.

Those who bash millennials in such a manner need to specify which year they were born. You better be over 40 to be spouting off like this...not that it would make you correct. Criticizing a large group of people for being a certain age is not a valid argument—especially since they are adults.

I was born in 1987. Thus, I am one of the older millennials.

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The millennial generation ends at the year 2000 (the millennium) Therefore you are a millennial.

There's debate over the exact time range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials
Millennials, also known as Generation Y (or Gen Y), are the demographic cohort following Generation X and preceding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
Generation Z (or Gen Z), also known by a number of other names, is the demographic cohort after the Millennials. Demographers and researchers typically use the mid-1990s to mid-2000s as starting birth years. There is little consensus regarding ending birth years.


babecobop1 said:
I blame Millennials's awfulness on the 00's.

What good ever came from the early 00s? Everything that is stereotypically cancer for America and the rest of the world over came from this period. Bush, 9/11, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Fred Durst, Limp Bizkit, MTV. Nevada-tan was a horrible meme. I totally agree with the ED article about it, and I hated ED.

This makes no sense. Millennials are people born between the early 1980s to somewhere between the mid-1990s to early 2000s. The things you mentioned were caused by people older than millennials.
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SadMadoka said:

Silverstorm said:
Probably cause you're a millennial--its ok, this thread is dedicated to your lack of ability.

Those who bash millennials in such a manner need to specify which year they were born. You better be over 40 to be spouting off like this...not that it would make you correct. Criticizing a large group of people for being a certain age is not a valid argument—especially since they are adults.

I was born in 1987. Thus, I am one of the older millennials.
Was going to say 3 things but your post covered the "range" issue with the generation (s). The other two would be I disagree--you don't have to be over 40 to make such statements and the keyword to my post was probably; I don't doubt the possibility the person was dumb regardless of year they were born.
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It's just made up shit so people no longer the current generation can bitch and moan about how their generation is best ever and all the new ones are shit. It's just egoism and ageism.
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Silverstorm said:
The other two would be I disagree--you don't have to be over 40 to make such statements and the keyword to my post was probably; I don't doubt the possibility the person was dumb regardless of year they were born.

I meant that you better be older than millennials if you're going to spout off like that. If you imply all millennials are dumb (etc.) and you are a millennial yourself, well... I'm guessing you don't want to reveal your age, though.
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I think it#s 2 things, all the SJWs/perpetually offended seem to be millennials and there's lots of really stupid stories about them.

eg, A school a few years ago had to change its clock from analogue to digital because students couldn't tell the time and were always late for exams.
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SadMadoka said:
Silverstorm said:
The other two would be I disagree--you don't have to be over 40 to make such statements and the keyword to my post was probably; I don't doubt the possibility the person was dumb regardless of year they were born.

I meant that you better be older than millennials if you're going to spout off like that. If you imply all millennials are dumb (etc.) and you are a millennial yourself, well... I'm guessing you don't want to reveal your age, though.
I understood your meaning, just disagree with its surface. My stance is you can critique millennial by simply being from one end of the spectrum based on its long range (almost 15 years); some parents out there are millennials to millennials. I don't see what similarities besides the connotation bestowed on those born in 86' and those in 2000 would make anyone think the two would have similar dispositions outright. Not even counting the variance in the upbringing outcomes (those born in the 80s are more likely to be raised in GG or Boomer households, while later millennial likely grew in Gen X households). Nor does it even include gap-generations, who fall in between such time stamps. I get your meaning but think its disingenuous by not considering those inputs in the differences of the two or why someone can even have a differing outlook to critique someone in the same group. Meh, your way is reasonable. Also, no--I don't share my age here except to inform I'm old or young. Atleast old enough to remember 87' and young enough to still get carded.
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Thanakos said:
Imagine preferring Plato over actual statistical research. Here's a bro/pro tip: Avoid philosophy.


Imagine preferring statistical research over Plato. Here's a bro/pro tip: avoid statistics.
Every time you look up for statistics you're gradually retarding your ability to reach valuable conclusions with your own head.

There's some truth to this. Hopefully, Generation Z isn't so pessimistic and pseudo-intellectual.

What creates so many pseudo-intellectuals is the reliance on statistics instead of making a through philosophical study of determined subject, starting by studying the classics.
"Why would I make the effort to think about how things work if the first results from google search/wikipedia pages give me all the answers that I need?"
^This is the reason why this generation is so stupid.
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Since I'm a millennial myself, I have to be on my millennial brothers and millennial sisters side. And yeah, it's a generalization, not all of us are the same.
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People don't hate Millennials. They hate Gen Z people and just don't realize Millennials haven't done shit in years and the early Gen Zs are the ones somehow giving them a bad name. Other than stupid shit like 'Millennials are putting small town businesses out of business by not shopping there!'. Like, bitch we use Amazon and go to supermarkets because both of which are more convenient and made by your generation so what the fuck?


Nothing more cringe worthy than seeing a video of a kid that's like 14 doing something stupid / illegal and the comments filled with responses along the lines of "Damn Millennials!"

Like the bitch licking ice-cream. (Not a bitch because of gender but because anyone who does that is a bitch + more. Plus genders were like, done away with so I guess it's fine anyway? Idk man.) So many comments referring to her as Millennial when she's obviously Gen Z.
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I think culture is changing and it's on its bad way however there are many exceptions
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"lazy, entitled, they are so easily offended , degenerate, have no respect for anyone, this and that, etc. "

I'd honestly say GenZ is more accurate for this ^ but for being entitled, easily offended and lazy I'd say a good amount of Millennial's fit the bill, seems like ever since 2011 onwards things have been going down hill.
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I don't think millenials are worst generation we had so far. It is just the media and internet feeding us bad news constantly and we think everything goes downhill. It is easy to blame the new generation for it, and the media helps to spread all that bullshit.
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Mostly baby boomers hate them cause they are out of touch with modern times.
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Thanakos said:
Imagine preferring Plato over actual statistical research. Here's a bro/pro tip: Avoid philosophy.


Imagine preferring statistical research over Plato. Here's a bro/pro tip: avoid statistics.
Every time you look up for statistics you're gradually retarding your ability to reach valuable conclusions with your own head.

There's some truth to this. Hopefully, Generation Z isn't so pessimistic and pseudo-intellectual.

What creates so many pseudo-intellectuals is the reliance on statistics instead of making a through philosophical study of determined subject, starting by studying the classics.
"Why would I make the effort to think about how things work if the first results from google search/wikipedia pages give me all the answers that I need?"
^This is the reason why this generation is so stupid.


Alright then, go ahead and philosophically explain to me why millennials are hated (bonus points if you can manage to do it without creating a template -- that is to say, if your philosophical argument is truly diagnostic and cannot be argued against using its own principles).

If that exercise was too difficult, here's an easier one: List all the practical contributions of philosophy in the history of mankind. I'll list all the practical contributions of statistics in the meanwhile, and then we'll compare and see which one works better :)

@Xstasy

You're just corroborating the notion that millennial humor sucks. Please don't try again.
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Because the only thing older generations can cling onto in terms of defining attributes these days is being older than millenials and the other generations that succeed them.
In a few decades it's gonna be us shaking fists and pointing fingers at the damn whatever-generation for not being like us, it's never gonna end.
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Maybe it's the hipster factor, like embracing electric scooters, (ie Lime/Bird), which annoy a lot of people.
Also people are saying things like cities need to attract Millenials to attract businesses, that sort of thing.
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Thanakos said:
KRKodama said:

Imagine preferring statistical research over Plato. Here's a bro/pro tip: avoid statistics.
Every time you look up for statistics you're gradually retarding your ability to reach valuable conclusions with your own head.


What creates so many pseudo-intellectuals is the reliance on statistics instead of making a through philosophical study of determined subject, starting by studying the classics.
"Why would I make the effort to think about how things work if the first results from google search/wikipedia pages give me all the answers that I need?"
^This is the reason why this generation is so stupid.


Alright then, go ahead and philosophically explain to me why millennials are hated (bonus points if you can manage to do it without creating a template -- that is to say, if your philosophical argument is truly diagnostic and cannot be argued against using its own principles).

If that exercise was too difficult, here's an easier one: List all the practical contributions of philosophy in the history of mankind. I'll list all the practical contributions of statistics in the meanwhile, and then we'll compare and see which one works better :)

@Xstasy

You're just corroborating the notion that millennial humor sucks. Please don't try again.

Millennials are not hated. The OP is just making a silly generalization.
By analyzing all what happened throughout the whole human history with statistics you're looking at things with an extremely simplified point of view instead of studying the true philosophical reasons that led to each historical event. Human beings are not mere numbers to be analyzed through statistics; each person has his own unique reasons for choosing to do each of his actions in his life. The works of philosophers influence the way how people think, for better(like is the case with the classic ones, Edmund Burke, and now Olavo de Carvalho and Roger Scruton, for example) or for worse(like Friedrich Nietzsche, Voltaire, and Karl Marx, for example). Philosophy is a good thing as long as it is used to understand human nature in order to improve our lives are individuals. The problem is when it's used as an ideology to deconstruct human values as instruments of power revolving on economy, which gives rise to bloody revolutions. It was by valuing humans as subjects that the most beautiful and influential nations, like Greece, were founded. Whereas it's the utilitarian way of seeing things as statistics that is to be blamed for the communist revolutions around the world, as well for the decay in architecture, in arts, and in morals of the modern society.
“Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.”
― Saint Augustine
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