A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
| ehh, I thought the animation quality was just fine, tbh at worst, it's about the same as the previous two seasons, imo |
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| 2 words, no money. Toaru was made in order to quell the anger from Kemono friends. Kadokawa just want to get it out of the way. So it was a rushed production with the budget of 13 episodes hoping to shove in all of old testament. The co-director actually had to beg for more episodes cause they can't do adaptation for it with so little time window, but clearly the budget is the same. |
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| The production schedule is beyond fucked up. Look at the credits, more than 10 animation directors per episode tells you that even with so many people working on an episode there is still not enough time to properly correct the drawings. Once a studio is stuck in this production nightmare they won't be able to crawl out of it. Look at Märchen Mädchen, FMP IV or DxD Hero for recent similar production disasters. |
MaceChan said: The production schedule is beyond fucked up. Look at the credits, more than 10 animation directors per episode tells you that even with so many people working on an episode there is still not enough time to properly correct the drawings. Once a studio is stuck in this production nightmare they won't be able to crawl out of it. Look at Märchen Mädchen, FMP IV or DxD Hero for recent similar production disasters. Not true. Dragon Ball Super looked like an amateur project for over the first half of the series, while near the end, serious improvements were being made to the art and animation to make it look like an acceptable 201x production (for the most part at least). |
deg said: nope if you follow AnimeAjay on youtube that is like very knowledgeable about all things Dragonball he talked about how the production schedule for Dragonball Super is a nightmare and its the reason why it ended with the tournament of power arc, Toei actually just put their best animators in the last arc of Dragonball Super but even then you can see the animation quality is inconsistent for most parts and episodes showing there is not enough production time or not enough time for animators to properly draw scenes Yes, it was a mess, even to the very end, but it's undeniable that significant improvements were made over its course. Comparing visual quality of the first arc to the last arc, it's a difference like day and night. The best from the first arc is maybe on par with the worst of the last arc, which is a pretty big deal. |
deg said: Ryuseishun said: it's about the same as the previous two seasons, imo really? the fight scenes so far in the first 3 episodes is not sakuga worthy and usually the first few episodes of an anime have great amounts of sakuga or high quality animation its been a long time since i last watch season 1 and season 2 but i remember them having good animation on the action scenes at least it's subjective, then....like for example, idk if you watched this series, but everyone was raving about Shingeki no Kyojin's improved animation quality in s3, but when I watched it myself, I didn't really think it was that much improved. The only change to me is that they added more details to the action scenes, which IS a plus, without a doubt, but everything else was practically the same. Now for SAO s3, the animation quality improvement was more profound and kinda obvious (ofc it doesn't necessarily mean the show will be much better JUST cause of that). It means, it depends on the person, cause I don't really focus that much on animation quality or style changes unless it makes itself very notable. |
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Hatsune_Inori said: Did they now? Did they really? The pace was all over the place.They adapt all LN content with good pace in this episode. |
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deg said: ap1001 said: 2 words, no money. Toaru was made in order to quell the anger from Kemono friends. Kadokawa just want to get it out of the way. So it was a rushed production with the budget of 13 episodes hoping to shove in all of old testament. The co-director actually had to beg for more episodes cause they can't do adaptation for it with so little time window, but clearly the budget is the same. do you have source for this? because from reading a lot of infos about anime making its actually production time that is more important than money that is always an issue anyway for anime studios with enough production time the animators can have enough time to animate scenes properly so im wondering if JC Staff is busy with other anime projects that made this rush animation quality not enough money -> cant hire more animators -> has to rush production with the little resources they already have, which isnt enough -> lower quality anime |
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| I re-watched the previous season and compare to it, the animation is worst to the point of being noticeable by a casual watcher. What is going on with J.C. Staff they are only working on 2 shows this season, the other one only airs on 25 Oct and it's a game adaptation too boot which no one expects anything of it... What a disgrace to Index... |
Hatsune_Inori said: I'm just looking at the numbers here. They're trying to cover even more content in the same amount of time, if not less. You may think this arc was fine, I don't, but it will only get much worse from here. Botato said: Considering previous season, this season far more better. If you complaint about terra intro, I dont think thats one is good comparassion. Remember how JC cut Angel fall, Deep blood, or la regina mere adratico arc? Just because story pace is fast doesnt mean they cut 50% LN contentDid they now? Did they really? The pace was all over the place. |
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deg said: Snaita said: I re-watched the previous season and compare to it, the animation is worst to the point of being noticeable by a casual watcher. What is going on with J.C. Staff they are only working on 2 shows this season, the other one only airs on 25 Oct and it's a game adaptation too boot which no one expects anything of it... What a disgrace to Index... damn if that is the case then JC Staff just have poor production schedule management then meanwhile Kyoto animation and ufotable only work on like few shows each year thats why they can have good production time and deliver good animation quality It can be, the budget probably is bad too, to the point of not being able to hire talented staff. Who knows... the studio can even be pretty deep in the red for all I know. Now I can only hope they don't fuck up One Pan next season |
| It's actually the opposite. Badly drawn and animated episodes are the most expensive episodes of a show. Exactly because they have to hire a lot of animators to meet the deadline. Even if among these animators there are talented ones like in Index' cases Hiroshi Tomioka, who worked on all three episodes and is JC Staff's best animator, they don't have the time to properly animate them. As a consequence scenes look rough, unpolished and at times downright ugly. |
| They will probably get corrected for the bluray or dvd release. You can only get so much from weekly tv-streams. |
Hatsune_Inori said: No. They didn't speed up to get to BR arc. They sped up to get to NT content.@Botato well, battle royale arc maybe also main reason why JC speed up the pace. Remember how often JC rush some weak arc just for deepen strong arc like they does to academy city invasion arc? Terra arc easily the weakest arc from OT that not animated yet. Yet, not many great scene in this arc. Just compare it with next arc. Maybe JC didnt want index dropped in episode 3 since nowday anime reviewers will judge anime is worth or not just by 3 episode. They don't care about that at all tho. And for the record any kind of feedback they might care about, like niconico ratings for example, are already kinda bad.If my prediction is correct, they will end this season (assuming 26 episode) at DRAGON arc or beginning of ww3. If interviews are anything to go by then they will cram all that remains in OT into these 26 episodes. Iirc they mentioned that they wanted to make WW3 a movie but that didn't work out so it will be shown this season instead. |
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Hatsune_Inori said: Botato said: Is they confirm that 26 will be all OT? I dont remember they ever says that. They just talk about how hard to planing content within index 3. They even says to cut whole thing to NT etc but they says it wont work, so they just do straight adaptation.No. They didn't speed up to get to BR arc. They sped up to get to NT content. They don't care about that at all tho. And for the record any kind of feedback they might care about, like niconico ratings for example, are already kinda bad. If interviews are anything to go by then they will cram all that remains in OT into these 26 episodes. Iirc they mentioned that they wanted to make WW3 a movie but that didn't work out so it will be shown this season instead. Miki the editor of index said that after indexIII another announcement for the franchise will be made, it could be a final cour or movie for ww3 or it could be a adaption for nt in the worst case meaning ot will be rushed. |
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AcceleratorAngel said: Hatsune_Inori said: Is they confirm that 26 will be all OT? I dont remember they ever says that. They just talk about how hard to planing content within index 3. They even says to cut whole thing to NT etc but they says it wont work, so they just do straight adaptation. Miki the editor of index said that after indexIII another announcement for the franchise will be made, it could be a final cour or movie for ww3 or it could be a adaption for nt in the worst case meaning ot will be rushed. I don’t think we’ll get another cour since were getting accelerator and railgun after this, my bet is they’ll announce a movie. |
| JC staff had another project beside index... so if JC Staff go full force on index.. OPM,DAL,Railgun and Accelerator anime would be fucked up. |
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| I watch JC Staff previous season anime, it's called Planet With, and the animation quality is really impressive for a TV Series more than Index season 3, so i think the one in charge for the animation quality in index 3 is the one to blame |
| It really baffles me how bad this adaption is compared to sao. Both sequels were announced at the same time and appeared alongside each other in promotional material. Ai pictures has lots of projects in the fall season still the quality of sao is top noth, jc staff on the other hand has only 1 project beside index and they still butcher the adaption beyond recognition, they had fakking 10 animation directors for ep 3 of index III that tells u how far behind schedule they really are. No wonder theres nearly no hype surrounding index in the west. |
| "Even villains have standards" -Accelerator- |
| The animation looks fine for me. I just don't see any difference between this and previous index series I care more about action/story and it is good so far |
| I dont think its bad, its just that the artstyle looks dated by now and there is only so much they can do with it. IIRC the movie also did not look amazing or special. Also I personally never really considered JC Staff one of the top quality studios. So I expected nothing else. deg said: DreamingBeats said: not enough money -> cant hire more animators -> has to rush production with the little resources they already have, which isnt enough -> lower quality anime budget meme should really die really, here is a 2 minute video explaining it and also the anime industry have animator shortage they say so even if they have big budget they cannot hire a lot of talented animators Insert meme of guy shooting someone then saying "why would X do this" - low wage animator is the guy getting shot in this case - the gun would be labeled "virtually no money" or "outsourcing" - The guy shooting whould be called "low budget" - He would say "Why would animator shortage do this" I always love it when industries threat employers like shit and then wonder why nobody wants to do the job. |
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| all big studio is busy.... wat the flip man.... |
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deg said: thepath said: The animation looks fine for me. I just don't see any difference between this and previous index series I care more about action/story and it is good so far you care more about action too but you do not care about good animation on the action scenes? lol look at episode 4 the action scenes are poorly animated again I watched episode 4 and it is amazing. Animation alone is not what makes action/fight good. You might have anime that has amazing visual but boring fight. And also episode 4 did not look "poorly" animated. It looked fine/average for me. And I usually I don't pay attention that much to animation while watching anime anyway. |
| Ya I've been disappointed with the animation. I was really hoping it would reach Index II and Railgun S levels this season, but JC has a packed schedule and probably didn't get enough time to make everything flow well. I really hope the big Accelerator fight coming up is a step up from what we've gotten so far. |
| JC Staff has been absolute shit in the last few years. Nowadays they just grab a beloved franchise, shit out a mediocre, half-CG, low-quality adaptation and just don't care since it'll make 'em money anyway. I hate that company with a passion. They're no better than Pierrot and Toei. Another studio treating anime as a product instead of art. |
KiLLZONE15JYU said: The Animation has run out. It's possible this series would be canceled. I doubt J.C will gonna cancel the show just because the lack of times, although they does stated the show will be on hiatus on next week due to new year celebration. |
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