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Nov 4, 2018 4:12 AM
#1
| Do you think Light Yagami should have triumphed at the end of Death Note? Mod Edit: Spoiler tags added to title. |
TenshoNov 11, 2018 7:05 AM
Nov 4, 2018 4:17 AM
#2
| he should have fight with every leter of the alphabet-themed characters and maybe form a super sentai-like team himself to beat vwxyz |
Nov 4, 2018 4:18 AM
#4
Yuan_Kinjiro said: Do you think Light Yagami should have triumphed at the end of Death Note? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4MpfZz2ZOAU |
Nov 4, 2018 4:27 AM
#5
| I'm quite happy with Light's fate. Its everything leading upto it from L's death that I don't like But with that being said i would have been fine with him having the last laugh too |
Nov 4, 2018 4:31 AM
#6
| No, I think L should get him and whole L's successors arc shouldn't exist |
Nov 4, 2018 4:55 AM
#7
| Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! |
removed-userNov 4, 2018 4:59 AM
Nov 4, 2018 5:00 AM
#8
Huntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest. |
Nov 4, 2018 5:05 AM
#9
Huntik said: I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! |
Nov 4, 2018 5:09 AM
#10
| I would loved such ending https://youtu.be/TE6beI7AVc4 |
Nov 4, 2018 5:12 AM
#11
Pixel_Vapour said: Huntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest. Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?! |
Nov 4, 2018 5:15 AM
#12
Yuan_Kinjiro said: Huntik said: I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! Lol i love how you took the first sentence on of Made of abyss review :D Light is an antihero that uses his power as he thinks it is to do good or to hurt. He ain't a Villain. |
Nov 4, 2018 5:24 AM
#13
Huntik said: Actually comrade I used it because it's a quote by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche which was used in Psycho-Pass :D But is it also in Made in Abyss too? I guess Nietzsche sure is popular Yuan_Kinjiro said: Huntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! Lol i love how you took the first sentence on of Made of abyss review :D Light is an antihero that uses his power as he thinks it is to do good or to hurt. He ain't a Villain. I didn't imply that criminals have to be antagonists. Shougo Makishima from Psycho-Pass was a criminal too, but he was an anti-hero, and I will always respect his philosophy |
Nov 4, 2018 6:02 AM
#14
Huntik said: Pixel_Vapour said: Huntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest. Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?! At the end Light begged Ryuk to not write his name in the Death Note and gave more of a look into how broken Light became and didn't let him have as much of an easy way out that the anime gave him |
Nov 4, 2018 6:09 AM
#15
Pixel_Vapour said: Huntik said: Pixel_Vapour said: Huntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest. Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?! At the end Light begged Ryuk to not write his name in the Death Note and gave more of a look into how broken Light became and didn't let him have as much of an easy way out that the anime gave him Holly cow, Yup definetely i prefer the anime ending over the manga! |
Nov 4, 2018 6:10 AM
#16
Huntik said: Pixel_Vapour said: Huntik said: Pixel_Vapour said: Huntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest. Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?! At the end Light begged Ryuk to not write his name in the Death Note and gave more of a look into how broken Light became and didn't let him have as much of an easy way out that the anime gave him Holly cow, Yup definetely i prefer the anime ending over the manga! How come? The manga ending was a more fitting end for Light |
Nov 4, 2018 6:27 AM
#17
| I absolutely despise Light, but he should have won. The only reason he lost was because Mikami fucked up. |
Nov 4, 2018 6:30 AM
#18
GrandMastahJ17 said: I absolutely agree with you fellow comrade about you despising Light, but I disagree with the latter point however I absolutely despise Light, but he should have won. The only reason he lost was because Mikami fucked up. |
Nov 4, 2018 6:45 AM
#19
| I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful. |
Nov 4, 2018 6:57 AM
#20
xShinigami3125 said: I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful. Near just wasn't a good enough character to replace L imo, almost everything involving him could have been improved. He wasn't likable like L was and didn't feel like someone who should be able to beat Light. If he'd been his own unique character like Mello instead of a mediocre L wannabe the second act would have been a lot better. |
Nov 4, 2018 7:02 AM
#21
xShinigami3125 said: True. L was the true nemesis of LightI am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful. |
Nov 4, 2018 7:26 AM
#22
Yuan_Kinjiro said: xShinigami3125 said: True. L was the true nemesis of LightI am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful. After all the build up their rivalry got they could only lose to one another and not some random kid that showed up later. The only way to beat Light in a way that I would find satisfying, is to truly outsmart him and not beat him because he suddenly became an idiot and lost because of a coincidence. |
Nov 4, 2018 7:32 AM
#23
xShinigami3125 said: I vehemently concur with that perspective. Yuan_Kinjiro said: xShinigami3125 said: I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful. After all the build up their rivalry got they could only lose to one another and not some random kid that showed up later. The only way to beat Light in a way that I would find satisfying, is to truly outsmart him and not beat him because he suddenly became an idiot and lost because of a coincidence. |
Nov 4, 2018 8:15 AM
#24
| Honestly when I was watching Death Note, Light losing in the end was very refreshing. I was expecting him to win against Near because of "main character immunity" but when I saw that light lost, I liked it. Before I watched Death Note, it had been a long time since I saw the MC of something actually lose in the end, and seeing Light lose in the end was not only refreshing, but it was satisfying. |
Nov 4, 2018 8:21 AM
#25
| hmm i was very upset with the ending at first but now i'm fine with it so no |
Nov 4, 2018 10:57 AM
#26
Nov 4, 2018 11:52 AM
#28
MechKingKillbot said: But I thought Death Note series should have ended once L lost. Like this would be better. Or my second likable ending would be L's vs Light Yagami rivarly all anime, and Light Yagami loses (and dies same way he did in actual ending of Death note). |
Nov 4, 2018 12:16 PM
#29
| Death Note is an allegory of the christian bible, so that ending is inevitable. Not sure a better ending could've been achieved unless going away from the planned chain of events. The 2nd half was done poorly though, for an allegory and overall. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:22 PM
#30
Yuan_Kinjiro said: I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." Well, my personal interpretation of Light is that he was never interested in making the world a better place to begin with but rather attracted to the idea of being the one who passes judgement, being feared and revered while also setting the standard for what is allowed to exist. His inherent egomania was in my opinion why he wanted to be like a god. Notice how he emphasized I many times when he was talking about "the greater good". "I am justice." "I will make a world of only those who I judged to be good people" etc. I found a lot of points, particularly from the manga that cohere with my interpretation. OT: While I love Light's character, I wouldn't want him to win after he got dumbed down in the second half. It wouldn't feel deserved. Oh and sorry I wasn't able to respond to you. I have my hands full half the time, being the senior year in high school and all. And the other half goes to watching anime lol |
AuronNov 4, 2018 12:26 PM
Nov 4, 2018 12:23 PM
#31
| light was my favorite, but him losing was the best ending for me. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:23 PM
#32
| its just that anime like karma or even the golden rule that is popular philosophy of asia in real life science says its just world fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis |
Nov 4, 2018 12:30 PM
#33
Orhunaa said: That is a brilliant point mate. The egotistical facet of Light was salient throughout the series. Yuan_Kinjiro said: I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." Well, my personal interpretation of Light is that he was never interested in making the world a better place to begin with but rather attracted to the idea of being the one who passes judgement, being feared and revered while also setting the standard for what is allowed to exist. His inherent egomania was in my opinion why he wanted to be like a god. Notice how he emphasized I many times when he was talking about "the greater good". "I am justice." "I will make a world of only those who I judged to be good people" etc. I found a lot of points, particularly from the manga that cohere with my interpretation. Oh and sorry I wasn't able to respond to you. I have my hands full half the time, being the senior year in high school and all. And the other half goes to watching anime lol Solipsism is the word, if I remember correctly |
Nov 4, 2018 12:31 PM
#35
Orhunaa said: And no worries mate, your academia comes before anything else :D Hurry up and graduate so you can pursue the career of your dreamsYuan_Kinjiro said: I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." Well, my personal interpretation of Light is that he was never interested in making the world a better place to begin with but rather attracted to the idea of being the one who passes judgement, being feared and revered while also setting the standard for what is allowed to exist. His inherent egomania was in my opinion why he wanted to be like a god. Notice how he emphasized I many times when he was talking about "the greater good". "I am justice." "I will make a world of only those who I judged to be good people" etc. I found a lot of points, particularly from the manga that cohere with my interpretation. OT: While I love Light's character, I wouldn't want him to win after he got dumbed down in the second half. It wouldn't feel deserved. Oh and sorry I wasn't able to respond to you. I have my hands full half the time, being the senior year in high school and all. And the other half goes to watching anime lol |
Nov 4, 2018 12:36 PM
#36
| Yeah but isn't a new movie coming next year? I think Kira and CC will reunite again. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:41 PM
#37
| Out of all, I preferred live action's the most. In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced. Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga. EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:45 PM
#38
Kenny_Stryker said: Haven't watched the movie version (obviously not Netflix) my comrade but it sounds interesting, judging from your reference Out of all, I preferred live action's the most. In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced. Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga. EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:46 PM
#39
| Should Light have won? No, his fall was essential for the narrative. Should the execution of it been changed? Definitely. Light started to act uncharacteristically stupid towards the end and was outsmarted by someone who was at best as capable as L. What should have happened would be Near and Mello continuing to fight against Kira in their own way but do so as a unified group, since bringing in two rivals to succeed L became pointless once Mello started acting on his own and became irrelevant in the long run. With a pincer strategy, they could catch Kira off-guard and outwit him despite his intellectual superiority. Instead, we got Light getting plot nerfed to the point a kid outfoxes him whilst Mello is done away with pretty easily. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:48 PM
#40
Yuan_Kinjiro said: Kenny_Stryker said: Haven't watched the movie version (obviously not Netflix) my comrade but it sounds interesting, judging from your reference Out of all, I preferred live action's the most. In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced. Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga. EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix. The movie is not all that good, but I found story of the movie much better and suitable. Although, L gets the same fate as he did in anime, but in a more satisfying way. |
Nov 4, 2018 12:58 PM
#41
Kenny_Stryker said: Whoa okay now you have officially intrigued me with your last statementYuan_Kinjiro said: Kenny_Stryker said: Out of all, I preferred live action's the most. In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced. Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga. EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix. The movie is not all that good, but I found story of the movie much better and suitable. Although, L gets the same fate as he did in anime, but in a more satisfying way. |
Nov 4, 2018 1:00 PM
#42
| What should have happened is that someone else got the death note and wrote that he died eating potato chips. |
Nov 4, 2018 1:03 PM
#43
epyon4light said: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/34/f2/1634f2771643d9eac5757b53e3da0df8.pngWhat should have happened is that someone else got the death note and wrote that he died eating potato chips. |
Nov 5, 2018 6:43 AM
#44
| Actually i would have liked ruyk to be involved in the ending he deacdes of experience and would have made very good mind games |
Nov 5, 2018 7:26 AM
#45
UrbanSpaceman said: Funny, that's how the live-action movies endedNo, I think L should get him and whole L's successors arc shouldn't exist OT: I think the current ending was fine. |
Sunlight, leading to an encounter; Dreams that don't want to end Continue onwards toward the next day While she waits in the air. |
Nov 5, 2018 7:32 AM
#46
Nov 11, 2018 7:04 AM
#47
Nov 13, 2018 3:10 AM
#48
Pixel_Vapour said: Nope Live Action Ending Is Much BetterHuntik said: Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most. I, however, think back to Ryuk, who writes the name of Light and says: "We spent time together to drive away the mutual boredom ... it was just a hoot." Then, for a moment there is absolute silence, the music stops abruptly; which I think is a reference to episode # 25: Silence, in which Ldies. In fact, right in the final moments of the anime, appears L, right in front of Light, to which the call is not so casual. For me it is simply poetic, also because that portion of stairs in which lies its body is flooded by the light of a setting sun (call to death) ... light / Light, precisely ... and sweetly closes his eyes! The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest. |
Nov 16, 2018 3:00 PM
#49
| The whole Near/Mellow arc is when Death Note went downhill. I really loved the manga, but I can't score it perfect due to the drastic quality drop after L is no longer in the story. It wasn't because Light lost that is made it a bad ending. Like others said, this was inevitable from the start, considering how much he lost any thread of goodness due to the Death Note and his insatiable quest for power. It's definitely an issue of timing and character involved WHEN it happened. I really think this could have been a perfect 10 series overall if they shortened it and took out Near/Mellow completely. |
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