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Do you think Light Yagami should have triumphed at the end of Death Note?


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Nov 4, 2018 4:17 AM
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he should have fight with every leter of the alphabet-themed characters and maybe form a super sentai-like team himself to beat vwxyz
Nov 4, 2018 4:17 AM
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Nah. The ending was quite coherent so it's fine.
Nov 4, 2018 4:18 AM
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Yuan_Kinjiro said:
Do you think Light Yagami should have triumphed at the end of Death Note?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4MpfZz2ZOAU
Nov 4, 2018 4:27 AM
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I'm quite happy with Light's fate. Its everything leading upto it from L's death that I don't like

But with that being said i would have been fine with him having the last laugh too
Nov 4, 2018 4:31 AM
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No, I think L should get him and whole L's successors arc shouldn't exist
Nov 4, 2018 4:55 AM
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Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most.
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Huntik said:
Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most.


The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest.
Nov 4, 2018 5:05 AM
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Huntik said:
Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most.
I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
Nov 4, 2018 5:09 AM
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I would loved such ending https://youtu.be/TE6beI7AVc4
Nov 4, 2018 5:12 AM
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Pixel_Vapour said:
Huntik said:
Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most.


The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest.


Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?!
Nov 4, 2018 5:15 AM
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Yuan_Kinjiro said:
Huntik said:
Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most.
I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."


Lol i love how you took the first sentence on of Made of abyss review :D

Light is an antihero that uses his power as he thinks it is to do good or to hurt.
He ain't a Villain.
Nov 4, 2018 5:24 AM
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Huntik said:
Yuan_Kinjiro said:
I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."


Lol i love how you took the first sentence on of Made of abyss review :D

Light is an antihero that uses his power as he thinks it is to do good or to hurt.
He ain't a Villain.
Actually comrade I used it because it's a quote by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche which was used in Psycho-Pass :D But is it also in Made in Abyss too? I guess Nietzsche sure is popular

I didn't imply that criminals have to be antagonists. Shougo Makishima from Psycho-Pass was a criminal too, but he was an anti-hero, and I will always respect his philosophy
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Huntik said:
Pixel_Vapour said:


The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest.


Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?!


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Pixel_Vapour said:
Huntik said:


Unfornately i haven't read the manga. Could you spoiler to me what happened to the end?!




Holly cow, Yup definetely i prefer the anime ending over the manga!
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Huntik said:
Pixel_Vapour said:




Holly cow, Yup definetely i prefer the anime ending over the manga!


How come? The manga ending was a more fitting end for Light
Nov 4, 2018 6:27 AM
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I absolutely despise Light, but he should have won. The only reason he lost was because Mikami fucked up.
Nov 4, 2018 6:30 AM
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GrandMastahJ17 said:
I absolutely despise Light, but he should have won. The only reason he lost was because Mikami fucked up.
I absolutely agree with you fellow comrade about you despising Light, but I disagree with the latter point however
Nov 4, 2018 6:45 AM

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I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful.
Nov 4, 2018 6:57 AM

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xShinigami3125 said:
I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful.

Near just wasn't a good enough character to replace L imo, almost everything involving him could have been improved. He wasn't likable like L was and didn't feel like someone who should be able to beat Light. If he'd been his own unique character like Mello instead of a mediocre L wannabe the second act would have been a lot better.
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xShinigami3125 said:
I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful.
True. L was the true nemesis of Light
Nov 4, 2018 7:26 AM

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Yuan_Kinjiro said:
xShinigami3125 said:
I am fine with Light losing but I hate how he lost and who he lost to. Everything after als death that build up to Lights loss was just awful.
True. L was the true nemesis of Light

After all the build up their rivalry got they could only lose to one another and not some random kid that showed up later. The only way to beat Light in a way that I would find satisfying, is to truly outsmart him and not beat him because he suddenly became an idiot and lost because of a coincidence.
Nov 4, 2018 7:32 AM
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xShinigami3125 said:
Yuan_Kinjiro said:
True. L was the true nemesis of Light

After all the build up their rivalry got they could only lose to one another and not some random kid that showed up later. The only way to beat Light in a way that I would find satisfying, is to truly outsmart him and not beat him because he suddenly became an idiot and lost because of a coincidence.
I vehemently concur with that perspective.
Nov 4, 2018 8:15 AM
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Honestly when I was watching Death Note, Light losing in the end was very refreshing. I was expecting him to win against Near because of "main character immunity" but when I saw that light lost, I liked it. Before I watched Death Note, it had been a long time since I saw the MC of something actually lose in the end, and seeing Light lose in the end was not only refreshing, but it was satisfying.
Nov 4, 2018 8:21 AM
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hmm
i was very upset with the ending at first but now i'm fine with it
so no
Nov 4, 2018 10:57 AM

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I think Light should have won with the Death Note but I thought Death Note series should have ended once L lost. Would have been a unique ending hardly ever done (especially that I have watched)

Would have been an instant top 3 favorite. Shame that didn't happen.
Nov 4, 2018 11:45 AM

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No, Death Note had a perfect ending.
Nov 4, 2018 11:52 AM

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MechKingKillbot said:
But I thought Death Note series should have ended once L lost.

Like this would be better. Or my second likable ending would be L's vs Light Yagami rivarly all anime, and Light Yagami loses (and dies same way he did in actual ending of Death note).
Nov 4, 2018 12:16 PM

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Death Note is an allegory of the christian bible, so that ending is inevitable. Not sure a better ending could've been achieved unless going away from the planned chain of events. The 2nd half was done poorly though, for an allegory and overall.
Nov 4, 2018 12:22 PM
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Yuan_Kinjiro said:
I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."


Well, my personal interpretation of Light is that he was never interested in making the world a better place to begin with but rather attracted to the idea of being the one who passes judgement, being feared and revered while also setting the standard for what is allowed to exist. His inherent egomania was in my opinion why he wanted to be like a god. Notice how he emphasized I many times when he was talking about "the greater good". "I am justice." "I will make a world of only those who I judged to be good people" etc. I found a lot of points, particularly from the manga that cohere with my interpretation.

OT: While I love Light's character, I wouldn't want him to win after he got dumbed down in the second half. It wouldn't feel deserved.

Oh and sorry I wasn't able to respond to you. I have my hands full half the time, being the senior year in high school and all. And the other half goes to watching anime lol
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Nov 4, 2018 12:23 PM
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light was my favorite, but him losing was the best ending for me.
Nov 4, 2018 12:23 PM
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its just that anime like karma or even the golden rule that is popular philosophy of asia

in real life science says its just world fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
Nov 4, 2018 12:30 PM
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Orhunaa said:
Yuan_Kinjiro said:
I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."


Well, my personal interpretation of Light is that he was never interested in making the world a better place to begin with but rather attracted to the idea of being the one who passes judgement, being feared and revered while also setting the standard for what is allowed to exist. His inherent egomania was in my opinion why he wanted to be like a god. Notice how he emphasized I many times when he was talking about "the greater good". "I am justice." "I will make a world of only those who I judged to be good people" etc. I found a lot of points, particularly from the manga that cohere with my interpretation.

Oh and sorry I wasn't able to respond to you. I have my hands full half the time, being the senior year in high school and all. And the other half goes to watching anime lol
That is a brilliant point mate. The egotistical facet of Light was salient throughout the series.

Solipsism is the word, if I remember correctly
Nov 4, 2018 12:31 PM

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Yes Light should have won and killed Near
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Orhunaa said:
Yuan_Kinjiro said:
I can assure you my comrade I do not respect Light, because his sense of justice is hypocritical. He vowed to cleanse the world of criminals, yet he became a criminal himself the moment he used the Death Note for the first time. "When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."


Well, my personal interpretation of Light is that he was never interested in making the world a better place to begin with but rather attracted to the idea of being the one who passes judgement, being feared and revered while also setting the standard for what is allowed to exist. His inherent egomania was in my opinion why he wanted to be like a god. Notice how he emphasized I many times when he was talking about "the greater good". "I am justice." "I will make a world of only those who I judged to be good people" etc. I found a lot of points, particularly from the manga that cohere with my interpretation.

OT: While I love Light's character, I wouldn't want him to win after he got dumbed down in the second half. It wouldn't feel deserved.

Oh and sorry I wasn't able to respond to you. I have my hands full half the time, being the senior year in high school and all. And the other half goes to watching anime lol
And no worries mate, your academia comes before anything else :D Hurry up and graduate so you can pursue the career of your dreams
Nov 4, 2018 12:36 PM

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Yeah but isn't a new movie coming next year? I think Kira and CC will reunite again.

Nov 4, 2018 12:41 PM

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Out of all, I preferred live action's the most.

In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced.

Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga.

EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix.
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Kenny_Stryker said:
Out of all, I preferred live action's the most.

In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced.

Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga.

EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix.
Haven't watched the movie version (obviously not Netflix) my comrade but it sounds interesting, judging from your reference
Nov 4, 2018 12:46 PM
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Should Light have won? No, his fall was essential for the narrative. Should the execution of it been changed? Definitely. Light started to act uncharacteristically stupid towards the end and was outsmarted by someone who was at best as capable as L. What should have happened would be Near and Mello continuing to fight against Kira in their own way but do so as a unified group, since bringing in two rivals to succeed L became pointless once Mello started acting on his own and became irrelevant in the long run. With a pincer strategy, they could catch Kira off-guard and outwit him despite his intellectual superiority. Instead, we got Light getting plot nerfed to the point a kid outfoxes him whilst Mello is done away with pretty easily.
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Yuan_Kinjiro said:
Kenny_Stryker said:
Out of all, I preferred live action's the most.

In it, it was L who ultimately catches Light, and no Mello or other L successors were introduced.

Also, I found live action ending more reasonable than anime and manga.

EDIT:- I meant Japanese live action, not Netflix.
Haven't watched the movie version (obviously not Netflix) my comrade but it sounds interesting, judging from your reference


The movie is not all that good, but I found story of the movie much better and suitable.

Although, L gets the same fate as he did in anime, but in a more satisfying way.
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Kenny_Stryker said:
Yuan_Kinjiro said:
Haven't watched the movie version (obviously not Netflix) my comrade but it sounds interesting, judging from your reference


The movie is not all that good, but I found story of the movie much better and suitable.

Although, L gets the same fate as he did in anime, but in a more satisfying way.
Whoa okay now you have officially intrigued me with your last statement
Nov 4, 2018 1:00 PM

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What should have happened is that someone else got the death note and wrote that he died eating potato chips.
Nov 4, 2018 1:03 PM
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epyon4light said:
What should have happened is that someone else got the death note and wrote that he died eating potato chips.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/34/f2/1634f2771643d9eac5757b53e3da0df8.png
Nov 5, 2018 6:43 AM
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Actually i would have liked ruyk to be involved in the ending he deacdes of experience and would have made very good mind games
Nov 5, 2018 7:26 AM

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No, I think L should get him and whole L's successors arc shouldn't exist
Funny, that's how the live-action movies ended
OT: I think the current ending was fine.
Summertime days, passing gently
Sunlight, leading to an encounter;
Dreams that don't want to end
Continue onwards toward the next day
While she waits in the air.
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Near winning was stupid, I wanted for Light to win and then Ryuk writting his name because he was bored and Light's time was ending.
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Pixel_Vapour said:
Huntik said:
Absolutely not. It is the right conclusion; his name is written on the Death Note. Also because maybe, you, you will be fond of the character and that is the image that has impressed you the most.


The manga ending is a lot better than the anime ending to be honest.
Nope Live Action Ending Is Much Better
Nov 16, 2018 3:00 PM

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The whole Near/Mellow arc is when Death Note went downhill.
I really loved the manga, but I can't score it perfect due to the drastic quality drop after L is no longer in the story.
It wasn't because Light lost that is made it a bad ending. Like others said, this was inevitable from the start, considering how much he lost any thread of goodness due to the Death Note and his insatiable quest for power. It's definitely an issue of timing and character involved WHEN it happened.
I really think this could have been a perfect 10 series overall if they shortened it and took out Near/Mellow completely.

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It's difficult to decide what is better, if light would have won the crime rate would have decreased even more but he was pretty much crazy towards the end and that lead him to commit a few errors that caused his defeat.
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