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Hitler definitely died in 1945, according to new study of his teeth

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May 21, 2018 1:22 AM
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French researchers claim to have put an end to conspiracy theories surrounding the death of Adolf Hitler, after a study of his teeth proved he definitely died after taking cyanide and shooting himself in the head in Berlin in 1945.

The researchers reached their conclusion after they were given rare access to fragments of Hitler’s teeth which have been held in Moscow since the end of World War II.

"The teeth are authentic, there is no possible doubt. Our study proves that Hitler died in 1945," said professor Philippe Charlier.
"We can stop all the conspiracy theories about Hitler. He did not flee to Argentina in a submarine, he is not in a hidden base in Antarctica or on the dark side of the moon," he told AFP news agency.

The teeth were put on display in 2000 in Moscow as part of an exhibition to mark the 55th anniversary of the end of the war.

They were back in the news again last month when the memoirs of a Russian interpreter who worked in Berlin in 1945 were published in English for the first time.

She recounted how she had been tasked with proving Hitler's death by tracking down his dental records in the ruined German capital and seeing if they matched a set of teeth she had been entrusted with - which they did.

In March and July 2017, Russia's FSB secret service and the Russian state archives authorised a team of French researchers to examine Hitler’s bones for the first time since 1946, said Professor Charlier, who was one of the scientists chosen.

They were able to look at a skull fragment presented as being from the Fuhrer, which showed a hole on the left side which was in all probability caused by the passage of a bullet.

The scientists were not authorised to take samples from this fragment, they noted in their study published on Friday in the scientific magazine European Journal of Internal Medicine.

The skull fragment's morphology was "totally comparable" to radiographies of Hitler's skull taken a year before his death, the research found.

The analysis of the Nazi leader's bad teeth and numerous dentures found white tartar deposits and no traces of meat fibre - the dictator was vegetarian.

The examination of the teeth did not find any traces of powder, which indicates there was not a revolver shot to the mouth, more likely the neck or the forehead.

Equally, bluish deposits seen on his false teeth could indicate a "chemical reaction between the cyanide and the metal of the dentures," the researcher said.

If this study confirms the generally accepted view that Hitler died on the 30 April, 1945, in his Berlin bunker with his companion Eva Braun as the Soviets were capturing the city, it also sheds new light on the exact causes of death, said Mr Charlier.

"We didn't know if he had used an ampule of cyanide to kill himself or whether it was a bullet in the head. It's in all probability both," he said.

Charlier, a specialist in medical and legal anthropology, was also involved in the analysis of the mummified heart of Richard the Lionheart.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/19/hitler-definitely-died-1945-according-new-study-teeth/

I never thought this would finally be confirmed without doubt but now it is.

So this raises a new question. Who is this man that people witnessed in Argentina that they thought was Hitler ? Just coincidence or does this suggest Hitler had a body double that escaped?
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May 21, 2018 1:49 AM
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I still don't buy the official story, and I never will.

Something else went down that we don't know about and never will, the circumstances were too strange, whether he actually died then or not.

Who's to say these teeth and skull fragments didn't belong to a body double?
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Hitler is actually roommates with Osama Bin Laden in Chile.
May 21, 2018 1:51 AM
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French Researchers. This makes me question their Neutrality. Also, I wouldn't necessarily trust the Russians to have provided the real Skull.

Aside from that, even if he had fled, he would have very likely been dead by now.


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Vorpality said:
Who's to say these teeth and skull fragments didn't belong to a body double?

The scientists were not authorised to take samples from this fragment

This exactly. So no genetic Comparison to other People from his Family, just taking some random Skull that could have been Adolf Hitler's and basing the Identity on it being "totally comparable" to Radiographs of Hitler`s Skull.
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It's just facts. There is no other way to look at it.

Body doubles don't go to the doctor for others so the dental records would be Hitler's not a double. They are just there as decoys to take a hit on assassination attempts. You can't fake teeth in a double to make a match.
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traed said:
@Vorpality @Noboru
It's just facts. There is no other way to look at it.

Body doubles don't go to the doctor for others so the dental records would be Hitler's not a double. They are just there as decoys to take a hit on assassination attempts. You can't fake teeth in a double to make a match.


That wasn't the point I was making, the point I was making was, how do we know it was actually Hitler's teeth and skull fragments?

I question the study itself.
May 21, 2018 2:04 AM
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amazing how studying a tooth can know that he shoot himself in the head though lol the cyanide part makes sense on a laymans perspective since some traces of it might be left on that tooth
May 21, 2018 2:06 AM
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Hitler is actually roommates with Osama Bin Laden in Chile.
They're owning HUE HUE HUES on Counter Strike.
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@traed: I do not trust Facts that are not based on definitive genetic Proof. Also, even if they got the original Teeth of Hitler, it wouldn't necessarily mean that the Skull would belong to the same Person.

Besides, the Circumstance that the Skull has been kept by the Russians is strange. If they had wanted to come clean, they wouldn't have taken it with them. So why all the Secrecy? Why don't they allow the Scientists to take Samples? And why did they authorize at least some Research on it lately?
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Noboru said:
@traed: I do not trust Facts that are not based on definitive genetic Proof. Also, even if they got the original Teeth of Hitler, it wouldn't necessarily mean that the Skull would belong to the same Person.


bones have DNA/genes though right?
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deg said:
bones have DNA/genes though right?
Yes, you can test them.

And it seems like there was even a genetic Test and they found that the Skull provided by the Russians was from a Female:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment

So that makes me skeptical of whether the Russians have actually provided the real Skull this Time. Especially when the Researchers weren't allowed to take Samples.
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Vorpality said:
That wasn't the point I was making, the point I was making was, how do we know it was actually Hitler's teeth and skull fragments?

I question the study itself.


Because the teeth match his dental records. Teeth alone are unique to the individual. Have you never watched a crime show?


Noboru said:
Yes, you can test them.

And it seems like there was even a genetic Test and they found that the Skull provided by the Russians was from a Female:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment

So that makes me skeptical of whether the Russians have actually provided the real Skull this Time. Especially when the Researchers weren't allowed to take Samples.


If it wasn't real it wouldn't match Hitler's records. It's entirely possible the teeth were his and part of the skull was from some woman that was there or they simply were wrong about the skull fragment and he has unexpected features.
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If it wasn't real it wouldn't match Hitler's records. It's entirely possible the teeth were his and part of the skull was from some woman that was there or they simply were wrong about the skull fragment and he has unexpected features.
Be that as it may, it's too strange of a Circumstance that there has been so many Restrictions being done on the Research.

Also, why do you think that Hitler had ordered the Remains of Frederick the Great to be hidden? I think that it's been done in Order to not make foreign Powers get their Hands on the Remains and possibly mess with them. Especially since Bodies are valuable Proof for historic Occasions.
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What? People thought he didn't?
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don't see how this will make believers out of conspiracy theorists

they'll just take this as another layer of cover up

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Noboru said:
traed said:
If it wasn't real it wouldn't match Hitler's records. It's entirely possible the teeth were his and part of the skull was from some woman that was there or they simply were wrong about the skull fragment and he has unexpected features.
Be that as it may, it's too strange of a Circumstance that there has been so many Restrictions being done on the Research.

Also, why do you think that Hitler had ordered the Remains of Frederick the Great to be hidden? I think that it's been done in Order to not make foreign Powers get their Hands on the Remains and possibly mess with them. Especially since Bodies are valuable Proof for historic Occasions.


To gather a DNA sample would require destroying part of whatever they get a sample from. So they can't just let just anoyone do it with all requests. Also they need something to compare to.

I don't think it's a matter of proof but holding artefacts is a type of power hold. Such artefacts also can be used as bargaining chips.
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Some Relatives seem to still live. And if they truly want to dispel all Doubts, then they have to do so by sacrificing a little Piece for genetic Studies and have an international Team of Germans, Austrians, Swiss, French, British, Italian, American, Russian, Japanese and Chinese check for it.

That makes me question what Artifacts Hitler's supposed Remains are.
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In actual fact, Hitler is cryogenically frozen in Antarctica, and Putin is attempting to revive him.
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@traed
Some Relatives seem to still live. And if they truly want to dispel all Doubts, then they have to do so by sacrificing a little Piece for genetic Studies and have an international Team of Germans, Austrians, Swiss, French, British, Italian, American, Russian, Japanese and Chinese check for it.

That makes me question what Artifacts Hitler's supposed Remains are.

You have to keep in mind the political implications. Maybe Russia is covering up faking parts of the skull but it has been shown the teeth do match his records so he is dead...well unless he was alive without a face which would be gruesomely hilarious.
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That's not gonna stop conspiracy theorists from having zero brain cells
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This study totally can't be from a reputable source.


Even if it is his teeth, he still could have fled.
Never seen an intense movie where a guy has to fake his death and pulls out some teeth to help 'prove' he died?
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nicethings said:
That's not gonna stop conspiracy theorists from having zero brain cells

Well there actually was a decent amount to support the possibility he escaped but this strongly suggests he didn't.

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This study totally can't be from a reputable source.


Even if it is his teeth, he still could have fled.
Never seen an intense movie where a guy has to fake his death and pulls out some teeth to help 'prove' he died?

Like I said before... Without his face? Lil
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This is all implying that Hitler didn't have secret cloning technology, which is absurd.
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I don't buy it, he's either alive and really old somewhere or died sometime long after the war. The man escaped Germany, that's for sure.


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You have to keep in mind the political implications. Maybe Russia is covering up faking parts of the skull but it has been shown the teeth do match his records so he is dead...well unless he was alive without a face which would be gruesomely hilarious.
Well, my Point stands: no genetic Research with an international Team = I do not believe in your Story.
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Noboru said:
traed said:
You have to keep in mind the political implications. Maybe Russia is covering up faking parts of the skull but it has been shown the teeth do match his records so he is dead...well unless he was alive without a face which would be gruesomely hilarious.
Well, my Point stands: no genetic Research with an international Team = I do not believe in your Story.
lmao, so you actually believe Hitler is alive or what?
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I for one don't believe in this. Maybe he has a backup teeth because his original teeth is damaging. Maybe he just put cyanide on the damaged teeth to believe the future folks that he died.

You may laugh at my comment above but remember that I put the word "Maybe"

We may never know, and we may never will
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Well, my Point stands: no genetic Research with an international Team = I do not believe in your Story.
lmao, so you actually believe Hitler is alive or what?
Read my first Posting in this Thread and answer your Question yourself.
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lmao, so you actually believe Hitler is alive or what?
Read my first posting in this thread and answer your question yourself.


So you thought Hitler fled and had been hiding somewhere for years until he passed away some years later?
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don't see how this will make believers out of conspiracy theorists

they'll just take this as another layer of cover up



"how do we know the teeth and skull werent fake???"
"because it matches his dental records"
"yeah but how do we know the teeth werent fake??????????????????"

rofl.
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So you thought Hitler fled and had been hiding somewhere for years until he passed away some years later?
It would be a Possibility, but I thought that the if-Clause had made it clear that I had been skeptical about that as well.

Maybe not the Time of his Death is a Lie, but rather the Circumstances. He could have died a heroic Death, for all we know.
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Noboru said:
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So you thought Hitler fled and had been hiding somewhere for years until he passed away some years later?
It would be a Possibility, but I thought that the if-Clause had made it clear that I had been skeptical about that as well.

Maybe not the time of his death is a lie, but rather the circumstances.

But why would you question the multiple records that stated that Hitler is dead? May as well argue it was aliens.


He could have died a heroic death, for all we know.


Oh, a "heroic death", I can see why.
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Nah it's the other guy shitsherlock first name no
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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In case anyone wanted to learn why this became a conspiracy theory.

https://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler/adolf-hitler-part-01-of-04/view
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In case anyone wanted to learn why this became a conspiracy theory.

https://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler/adolf-hitler-part-01-of-04/view

Hitler was 56 when he died. Even if he some how magically survived putting a bullet through his own shitty skull he would be dead by now anyway
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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It's always nice to see others being able to answer their own Questions themselves! ;)
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AdolChri said:
So you thought Hitler fled and had been hiding somewhere for years until he passed away some years later?
It would be a Possibility, but I thought that the if-Clause had made it clear that I had been skeptical about that as well.

Maybe not the Time of his Death is a Lie, but rather the Circumstances. He could have died a heroic Death, for all we know.

No it clearly was suicide. I mean being the guy that killed Hitler they would fucking tell everyone "hey I shot Hitler in the face" lol
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I didn't realize people seriously thought otherwise.

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I didn't realize this was actually a conspiracy.
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Okay, again, who else did not believe that Hitler died at 1945?
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No it clearly was suicide. I mean being the guy that killed Hitler they would fucking tell everyone "hey I shot Hitler in the face" lol
Not if the Guy who killed him was silenced before the Information could spread.

This isn't only a Suicide vs. insert_ridiculous_secret_Nazi_Base. At least, I don't like to restrict myself to either of those Options, especially with how convincingly they want to tell their Story. And how can you get a Lie through? By only proposing one other ridiculous Option as an Alternative and by restricting the Thought Process to the credible-seeming Default Answer of the Suicide and to the ridiculous-seeming Conspiracy Theory of him having fled to South America, Antarctica, the Moon or wherever.
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traed said:
No it clearly was suicide. I mean being the guy that killed Hitler they would fucking tell everyone "hey I shot Hitler in the face" lol
Not if the Guy who killed him was silenced before the Information could spread.

This isn't only a Suicide vs. insert_ridiculous_secret_Nazi_Base. At least, I don't like to restrict myself to either of those Options, especially with how convincingly they want to tell their Story. And how can you get a Lie through? By only proposing one other ridiculous Option as an Alternative and by restricting the Thought Process to the credible-seeming Default Answer of the Suicide and to the ridiculous-seeming Conspiracy Theory of him having fled to South America, Antarctica, the Moon or wherever.


I don't know if it's the bad grammar or what, but this post looks completely mad.
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I don't know if it's the bad grammar or what, but this post looks completely mad.
What bad Grammar? If anything, then that would be about the Spelling and English does not have an officially standardized Spelling. And what's so mad about proposing a third Option?
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Noboru said:
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I don't know if it's the bad grammar or what, but this post looks completely mad.
What bad Grammar? If anything, then that would be about the Spelling and English does not have an officially standardized Spelling. And what's so mad about proposing a third Option?


Are you doing this because you want Hitler to die like a hero instead of like a bitch or do you hope he's alive and he's coming to save you? Which one is it?
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Maybe it's just me but I have trouble telling whether people in this thread are being serious.
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Didn't know this conspiracy theory was still a thing. You learn something new every day
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained
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Are you doing this because you want Hitler to die like a hero instead of like a bitch or do you hope he's alive and he's coming to save you? Which one is it?
Neither. I'd simply like for others to not restrict their Thoughts on two given Theories:

1) Suicide Theory

2) Hitler-fled-to-secret-Nazi-Base Theory

There could be also an anti-climatic 4th Option in which he simply died because of an Accident or because of Health Problems. Room for Speculation about the Cause of Death is still there with that Level of Evidence.
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Noboru said:
What bad Grammar? If anything, then that would be about the Spelling and English does not have an officially standardized Spelling. And what's so mad about proposing a third Option?


Are you doing this because you want Hitler to die like a hero instead of like a bitch or do you hope he's alive and he's coming to save you? Which one is it?
This is an amazing post. You literally just said that committing suicide is dying like a bitch.

"Guys guys! Suicide is never funny except when Logan Paul cruises through Little Bitch Forest."
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Are you doing this because you want Hitler to die like a hero instead of like a bitch or do you hope he's alive and he's coming to save you? Which one is it?
Neither. I'd simply like for others to not restrict their Thoughts on two given Theories:

Except there is no reason to believe any other "theory". He died, you are making shit up because... reasons?


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AdolChri said:


Are you doing this because you want Hitler to die like a hero instead of like a bitch or do you hope he's alive and he's coming to save you? Which one is it?
This is an amazing post. You literally just said that committing suicide is dying like a bitch.


Oh no, we must protect the honor of the dude who started WW2 and killed millions of people! Surely he died like a hero, charging in battle and killing plenty of people!

He wasn't a depressed dude, he was a monster.
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Neither. I'd simply like for others to not restrict their Thoughts on two given Theories:

Except there is no reason to believe any other "theory". He died, you are making shit up because... reasons?


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This is an amazing post. You literally just said that committing suicide is dying like a bitch.


Oh no, we must protect the honor of the dude who started WW2 and killed millions of people! Surely he died like a hero, charging in battle and killing plenty of people!

He wasn't a depressed dude, he was a monster.
How do you know what he was in the final moments of his life? We can all rejoice in how much better a world this is without him while acknowledging that nothing about his life or death is funny. Seems as though you're in damage control now that your thinly masked mockery of suicide has been exposed.
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