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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- How come there is no discussion for this yet? Oh well. We're finally back to present time! And Undertaker really was behind this! I really wonder how F!Ciel will be acting now. Real name hasn't been revealed T_T Tbh, I don't it will revealed however R!Ciel might say it at some point. |
| I knew it! Of course it's the Undertaker I really wanna know what his relationship to the Phantomhives is, I mean, he wouldn't cherish them so much otherwise...he was probably close to Claudia... for some reason I'm not too fond of the current Real Ciel (perhaps cuz of Agni) still no name for our Ciel, I'm not even curious anymore the chapters should be longer |
 THAT SHRUG!! best new reaction image I'm glad we finally cut back to the present, although this chapter felt short again ;.; I'm so excited that Undertaker is back and I can't wait to hear his story! |
| I see this coming from a mile. I knew Undertaker is behind the resurrection of Ciel older twin brother and I feel like he know more than he lets on. My theory is that Ciel twin brother and Undertaker,Queen victoria and body guards are true main Antagonist. I feel like queen Victoria being behind Deaths of Ciel parents won t suprise me If that is true. |
DemonDarknightMay 19, 2018 10:45 AM
| I already forgot about the Phantom Five. lol! I am glad how Undertaker's character is still demanding laughter, like always, but the author didn't disrespectfully switch to something funny. I see this problem with a lot of mangas. They are in a serious situation, and something funny happens. |
| Might be just be but this arc is getting a little draggy. I just wanna know F!Ciel's name and what the Undertaker's relationship is to the Phantomhives (especially Claudia). |
| I knew it.I already said once that Undertaker is behind this.His attempt with dolls was an attempt to revive Ciel. I am waiting for the moment when it is revealed that Elder Ciel is the one who killed Agni. |
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HikariYuki said: KuroYume-96 said: I knew it! Of course it's the Undertaker I really wanna know what his relationship to the Phantomhives is, I mean, he wouldn't cherish them so much otherwise...he was probably close to Claudia... for some reason I'm not too fond of the current Real Ciel (perhaps cuz of Agni) still no name for our Ciel, I'm not even curious anymore the chapters should be longer Maybe he used to be a Phantomthive before he committed suicide and became a reaper o.0? He's attached the reason why he's collecting their hair as a keepsake. Seeing his family dies one by one as punishment. Yeah, I guess Real Ciel killed Agni either because he knows about the twins or for protecting Soma (coz he actually wants to kill Soma) since he's jealous that his twin brother is close to him like they are brothers. You know he is kinda possessive. The story will end without us knowing his real name or that will be the ending xD haha I dunno... (First post O_O i just realized!) I have these confused feelings of 'I wanna know how it ends' and 'I don't want the story to end' yeah real Ciel was probably jealous...poor Soma - wonder if he saw the picture Agni gave to him and realised that his Ciel isn't the one that got rid of Agni |
Capulett said: Shouldn't the chapter be a bit longer?? Waiting for a month for 20s pages is harsh. And I think most of us already know(theorize) that Undertaker is the one who revived R!ciel. So....there's no really development in this chapter. Those 20 pages are only for that last page when Undertaker said he didn't want to lose any more phantomhive.....*sigh time to wait for another month (in which it'll be a year since the first time R!ciel appeared) I think you should be grateful that they are still coming at all. Look at Ballroom e Youkoso or Hunter x Hunter or Berserk. Kuroshitsuji's author still manages to put out chapters of high quality on a monthly basis. Most authors eventually get burnt out on their work after a while so it's really commendable. |
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nukerxero123 said: Undertaker is phantomhive ancestor confirmed. when/where? I thought so, but did they confirm it in the manga? O.o |
SamBlack said: THAT SHRUG!! best new reaction image I'm glad we finally cut back to the present, although this chapter felt short again ;.; I'm so excited that Undertaker is back and I can't wait to hear his story! That was just the cutest shrug... well he did say Sebastian was going to be his dog... does that mean we can all pet his head when he does cute things xD |
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Nobody5464 said: Levi_Ackerman_10 said: I see this coming from a mile. I knew Undertaker is behind the resurrection of Ciel older twin brother and I feel like he know more than he lets on. My theory is that Ciel twin brother and Undertaker,Queen victoria and body guards are true main Antagonist. I feel like queen Victoria being behind Deaths of Ciel parents won t suprise me If that is true. Real ciel and undertaker literally can’t be the main bad guy becuase why would either real ciel create a plan in which he’s raped tortured and dies, or undertaker create a plan in which all the phantomhives he’s obsessed with (becuase he couldn’t have predicted Sebastian saving our ciel) dying one of which he can’t even revive becuase he was torched? See it makes no sense for either of them to be behind it They might not be behind Ciel parents deaths but they are one main of antagonist. I think still think Queen victoria being behind Ciel parents deaths and torture that Ciel and his brother endure. Sebastian michaelis not seeing this coming is no suprise since he was just summon first time at that point. I wonder how Undertaker manage to bring back the dead? It must be perfect version of bizzare doll. From what It said In this chapter I think he still need their body intact for resurrection to work |
DemonDarknightMay 21, 2018 3:07 AM
| I have mixed feeling with this chapter too. SO MUCH PLOT CONVENIENT until I really want to see Undertaker's story of how he decide to revive r!ciel (even he's my fav chara I hope he's fcked up this time because if this how the thing he tried to separate o!ciel with sebastian ot probably not really worked bc o!ciel is really felt horrible right now seeinh his brother survived Undertaker appearance on the manor not just raising confusion since other servants were there as well. To the point they just stand there even probably listening sebastian asking to r!ciel "I would no be here otherwise" (granted it's still vague line but what IF THEY KNOW) which is suddenly become funny view of they found out later. Also noticing quite a mistakes yana made, O!ciel already called sebastian by his name to burn everythg while he just gave his name after they left the place (lmao i just hope yana realized & fix it on comicbook release). And yeah this can start another Kuroshitsuji: Civil Wars at this point. :)) |
| Undertaker behind the real ciel's ressurection of course. He'll go against the queen who must have alot power if undertaker can't do anything about her. |
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| Oh god why does it feel like we're about to get another 9-10 months of flashbacks? v_v Please no, can we move the story forward now, this is dragging on way too long for a monthly release... I respect that Yana Toboso had this planned forever ago and has finally been getting to do the big reveal which I'm sure she's been excited about, I get that feeling... but it's getting rather wearying to read at this pace. |
| "EVERYBODY, CLAP YOUR HANDS!" "PLUS ULTRA!" |
aaahahaha I see - well, if he is I won't be too surprised |
| We're finally back to the present, I'm actually interested to see how things will end up from here on out. |
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| I didn't read all of the posts here. So, not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not: But, I was under the impression that RCiel's soul was consumed by Sebastian, as the "toll payment" for crossing from one realm into another (why else would his death and soul be needed in the first place? They could have just lopped off an arm or something, if it was just blood that was needed - and I'm sure they had likely tried lopping off various limbs before that, to come to the idea that a death and a soul were required.) In most stories about demon sacrifice/summoning, it is the fact that the demon consumes the soul offered to him, for power to manifest his body in the human realm. So, since nothing different was implied that I remember, I had assumed that Sebastian consumed RCiel's soul. So how the hell was there a soul for the undertaker to salvage in the first place?! All I can keep thinking, is: after these last EXTREMELY boring 10 or so chapters, we get a huge plot hole. Or, that whoever is in that body is not really RCiel. Maybe their father or another relative. |
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| Recently all these chapters has been ridiculously short, with this kind of pace we'll never get the end of it >_< Of course it had to be Undertaker! |
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| I can't really relate with most of the comments above as I'm marathoning (and in a bird's eye view the pacing's perfectly OK for me), but I didn't understand the initial hostility of RC's appearance. Or how RC was depicted so in the first place. Moreover RC's soul was gone. Can't revive someone without a soul, based on this manga's standards, no. The pieces aren't falling into place. |
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