High School DxD Hero Episode 4 Discussion

violadim said:
This episode made me realize that ever since Passione took over, there is way less fan service in episodes than the first 3 seasons. That somehow disappoints me.

Damn, another cliffhanger, I'm dying for next weeks episode.

Lazy_watcher said:


cause this and next season doesn't have much fanservice.
and they don't put random fanservice like TNK

Riverlia said:

They did, like the bath scene with Rias and Akeno. Though they tend to stay away from battle and emotional scene apparently.
Which is good in my book. (─‿‿─)

violadim said:
This episode made me realize that ever since Passione took over, there is way less fan service in episodes than the first 3 seasons. That somehow disappoints me.

Damn, another cliffhanger, I'm dying for next weeks episode.

PrimeX said:
Issei has come a long way being the Red Dragon Emperor but somehow every enemy he faces are stronger or at least gives him quite a bit of a challenge. Excluding the girls whom he can easily use the dress break on I want to see him beat someone easily that would make me appreciate his true strength. Anyway that dude called Cao Cao aka so-so is so lame, can't take him seriously.

Guranto-kun said:


How much do you know about Cao Cao to call him lame? Let me guess... I'd say, nearly zero.

Darklight0303 said:


Lack of knowledge is running rampant wouldn't you agree?

Recondito said:
I defenitely liked it. Gotta read tha LN though, because I have no clue about who is Le Fay.
Maybe next weekend will check the LN (Watching Fate/Zero this one). Let's see what we get next episode, Issei Vs The Shadow's Dude (I don't remember his name).

Darklight0303 said:


Think about Arturian Legends. Now connect the fact that one of Vali's Team Members is Arthur. Connect the dots. There's your answer

frenze12 said:


Probably because people know it better going by Morgana rather than Morgan le Fay.

(Funny though, i mean wasn't Morgana a enemy of king Arthur? You would think their descendants would be enemies with eachother or something...)

Riverlia said:
Guy, no need to be hostile. If someone haven't read the LN, let them watch and draw a conclusion for themselves as the story unfold.
Impression can change as a story go along and doesn't have to remain static forever.

KazeNoHimitsu said:
It was a showboating showdown, a stalemate. The highlight was the drunken Valkyrie going all apeshit to no avail. Nothing memorable happened, just a bing of talking, on the brighter side Issei’s leadership skills were given some time to shine.

Regardless, we’re already 1/4 of the way through, nothing significant has happened, the hero, white dragon, and red dragon faction are all circlejerking their abilities, warning each other “don’t interfere, this is a taste of things to come cuz you don’t listen” then appears a rustic antique of a robot.

Some terrorizing faction those Hero humans, they kidnap the fabled nine tails, and they don’t kill her.

It would have been better if they dangled her in front of everyone, and had someone disrespect her position of power by ragodolling her, or just straight up embarrassing her in front of daughter by violating her sanctity with boobs and tentacles.

Darklight0303 said:


What the heck is wrong with you? How would dangling a KEY to an experiment MAKE ANY BLOODY SENSE?

They even said they're using her in an EXPERIMENT that seems to be making use of the energy flows of Kyoto. Did you pay ANY attention to this episode whatsoever?

KazeNoHimitsu said:


No man, Caocao is just another anti-hero in my eyes, you look like you know something I don’t cause you read the LN, but to me the guy who abducted blondie, and had a series of mental manipulation, rape, and murder against holy women seems to be a real villain.

All we’ve got so far are egotistical little babies having a war with words. I’m not saying it won’t change, but no real has baddie been established.

Ok I’ll bite, if you really want to go out of your way, and theorize, make this episode mean something, I can patch a scenario like this: In Japan, main cities are built with critical energy spots. This guy looks like he is trying to block the energy spots that may also feed the yokai, and starve them. In that case it’s 1+ point for humanity, in which case we only see the behavior of a typical human “selfishness “ , nothing to warrant an evil label, he could just say he is doing it for humanity. These energy spots may also affect Hell, and gateways of sorts. Shit, no more traffic from hades!!

In the end, neither of these 3 factions are inherently evil, Red dragon faction wants peace, and to build relationships with all beings, mainly special beings. White dragon: they want action to fuel their desire for combat, and to push the dragon of dragons outside of the dimensional rift so the loli witch dragon thing with taped breasts can sleep, and the human hero faction wants to show other factions that they are strong, independent, and can even pose a threat to other factions.

Nothing evil here, just pushing their own egos and agendas, which they think are right.
Koneko’s sister is more evil it seems, as she killed her sensei.
Out of all the main ‘bad guys’ we were introduced to, she’s the only one with a kill notch.

Mattinator95 said:


Kourka isn't evil and that guy isn't the one that kidnapped Asia

KazeNoHimitsu said:
I was referring to the guy with boyish charms who bezelbubs descendant easily dispensed of. Forgive me if I didn’t mention his name, but he was also a let down.

KazeNoHimitsu said:


No man, Caocao is just another anti-hero in my eyes, you look like you know something I don’t cause you read the LN, but to me the guy who abducted blondie, and had a series of mental manipulation, rape, and murder against holy women seems to be a real villain.

All we’ve got so far are egotistical little babies having a war with words. I’m not saying it won’t change, but no real has baddie been established.

Also, because we don’t know the location of the nine tails, we’re going to waste another 1-2 episodes trying to find her; as I said previously the pacing is off. 7/12 will probably be when something significant happens. Typically, in all action adventure dramas the bad guy has to boast about his plan when they find him, and the bad guy usually shows an example. This pacing would be fine in say a LiteNovel, but not when it comes to an actual anime. Most LN are adapted to suit an anime, not vice versa.

Ok I’ll bite, if you really want to go out of your way, and theorize, make this episode mean something, I can patch a scenario like this: In Japan, main cities are built with critical energy spots. This guy looks like he is trying to block the energy spots that may also feed the yokai, and starve them. In that case it’s 1+ point for humanity, in which case we only see the behavior of a typical human “selfishness “ , nothing to warrant an evil label, he could just say he is doing it for humanity. These energy spots may also affect Hell, and gateways of sorts. Shit, no more traffic from hades!!

In the end, neither of these 3 factions are inherently evil, Red dragon faction wants peace, and to build relationships with all beings, mainly special beings. White dragon: they want action to fuel their desire for combat, and to push the dragon of dragons outside of the dimensional rift so the loli witch dragon thing with taped breasts can sleep, and the human hero faction wants to show other factions that they are strong, independent, and can even pose a threat to other factions.

Nothing evil here, just pushing their own egos and agendas, which they think are right.
Koneko’s sister is more evil it seems, as she killed her sensei.
Out of all the main ‘bad guys’ we were introduced to, she’s the only one with a kill notch.

I’d be more worried about Loki, but by the time he returns, I’m pretty sure Issei is going to be able to one-shot him. Queue Loki’s face of disbelief when he gets owned by a filthy born again devil. Oh dear.

Darklight0303 said:


Loki is never coming back. he's been sealed for good.

What is your inane obsession and drive to have everything only in extremes of black and white? You must have loved Kokabiel and Diodora then. Too bad they are the most pathetic villains in the entire series. Second only to that trash Raynare.

KazeNoHimitsu said:


There exists 3 types of harm,

1. Moral 2. Physical 3. Spiritual (hope, love)

We’ve seen Issei get his fair share of 2. But there has never been anyone that came close to destroying him like Reynard. She assaulted him on all his senses, all types of harm when he was still figuring out his identity, and himself. She created Issei, along with all his issues. Issei has demons, she is his ‘demons’, his nightmare, his darkness through which she manifest.

1. She portrayed innocence and destroyed it, she violated innocence in Asia and bare her to antichrists, she violated the sanctity of the Church, she betrayed Issei.

2. She killed him twice, and nearly killed him a third time. She pierced his flesh, his chest his heart.

3. She gave him love that he truly desired, she withdrew it, he loved her, he kept hoping he could change her somehow as he is the abused. She gave him Asia, and hope to rescue her, she took her away, along with the hope, and it damaged him significantly that one he loves would ruin his life. He still dreams of her, but when he interacts with her in the dream he is still in love and in disbelief. Even in his dreams, he is reluctant to harm her because she was his first, and will always be there.

Raynare is by far the most significant of the 3 because she was his first girlfriend, she actually noticed me, and he actually loved her. She was able to mentally assault our main character, and leave a such a traumatic scarring experience that even nightmares of her long gone spirit are able to immobilize Issei. She killed him twice, he loved her forever, he still does, and that’s why he is reluctant to give any love to Rias. It’s because his first relationship shaped him to be addicted to abuse. He doesn’t love Rias because she didn’t betray him. Did you notice how he made Rias kill her, after Rias told him it was his time to act? He couldn’t kill her because he loved her.

I thought it was just silly how they killed her, she was his kryptonite, gosh darn it.
She was the true villain of the show, none of these mediocre misguided misfits come close to the psychological warfare she waged with the green Issei. This show is about S&M, but Issei is still Reynare’s bitch.

The sad part is, they retconned the part where Issei tells Rias he loves her, or he calls her by her name. Now we have to see her get jealous again, and go mental about his harem.

I hope Raynare fucking comes back to haunt Issei again, the show needs more trauma, not circlejerking.

I will let you have your say about deodorant and cockatiel, but Raynare is his true Master. Rias doesn’t even tie her shoes next to her.

In his heart, Issei will never truly be happy until he changes her, until they become a couple again.

From what I see with you, you only examine the surface of things, but not the meat lying behind flesh.

Because I can see through the 2 dimensional personas of the hero faction, I’m disappointed that what they are doing is compensatory, something not coming from a position of power, but one from a position of weakness. The guy with a staff even admits ‘we humans are weak’, so terrorizing people is way they think will earn them respect, and proof of adequacy, when in reality, they are cowards.

Did Raynare have a reason to fuck with Issei’s life a second time? She just did it for a power trip, she wasn’t coming from a position of weakness. She had power over Issei, and to abuse that power is where evil comes from. Evil is not doing doing something to compensate, that is weakness.

Like I said, no main villain has appeared yet, which is lackluster. When I said Koneko’s sister was evil, it was because she did something immoral killed her sensei, traumatized koneko who was there in front of her, and did physical harm over somebody whom she had power over.

Right now, the anime is making it look like Koneko’s sister was in full control over those events. It might change, but that’s what we got.

KazeNoHimitsu said:


There exists 3 types of harm,

1. Moral 2. Physical 3. Spiritual (hope, love)

We’ve seen Issei get his fair share of 2. But there has never been anyone that came close to destroying him like Reynard. She assaulted him on all his senses, all types of harm when he was still figuring out his identity, and himself. She created Issei, along with all his issues. Issei has demons, she is his ‘demons’, his nightmare, his darkness through which she manifest.

1. She portrayed innocence and destroyed it, she violated innocence in Asia and bare her to antichrists, she violated the sanctity of the Church, she betrayed Issei.

2. She killed him twice, and nearly killed him a third time. She pierced his flesh, his chest his heart.

3. She gave him love that he truly desired, she withdrew it, he loved her, he kept hoping he could change her somehow as he is the abused. She gave him Asia, and hope to rescue her, she took her away, along with the hope, and it damaged him significantly that one he loves would ruin his life. He still dreams of her, but when he interacts with her in the dream he is still in love and in disbelief. Even in his dreams, he is reluctant to harm her because she was his first, and will always be there.

Raynare is by far the most significant of the 3 because she was his first girlfriend, she actually noticed me, and he actually loved her. She was able to mentally assault our main character, and leave a such a traumatic scarring experience that even nightmares of her long gone spirit are able to immobilize Issei. She killed him twice, he loved her forever, he still does, and that’s why he is reluctant to give any love to Rias. It’s because his first relationship shaped him to be addicted to abuse. He doesn’t love Rias because she didn’t betray him. Did you notice how he made Rias kill her, after Rias told him it was his time to act? He couldn’t kill her because he loved her.

I thought it was just silly how they killed her, she was his kryptonite, gosh darn it.
She was the true villain of the show, none of these mediocre misguided misfits come close to the psychological warfare she waged with the green Issei. This show is about S&M, but Issei is still Reynare’s bitch.

The sad part is, they retconned the part where Issei tells Rias he loves her, or he calls her by her name. Now we have to see her get jealous again, and go mental about his harem.

I hope Raynare fucking comes back to haunt Issei again, the show needs more trauma, not circlejerking.

I will let you have your say about deodorant and cockatiel, but Raynare is his true Master. Rias doesn’t even tie her shoes next to her.

In his heart, Issei will never truly be happy until he changes her, until they become a couple again.

From what I see with you, you only examine the surface of things, but not the meat lying behind flesh.

Because I can see through the 2 dimensional personas of the hero faction, I’m disappointed that what they are doing is compensatory, something not coming from a position of power, but one from a position of weakness. The guy with a staff even admits ‘we humans are weak’, so terrorizing people is way they think will earn them respect, and proof of adequacy, when in reality, they are cowards.

Did Raynare have a reason to fuck with Issei’s life a second time? She just did it for a power trip, she wasn’t coming from a position of weakness. She had power over Issei, and to abuse that power is where evil comes from. Evil is not doing doing something to compensate, that is weakness.

Like I said, no main villain has appeared yet, which is lackluster. When I said Koneko’s sister was evil, it was because she did something immoral killed her sensei, traumatized koneko who was there in front of her, and did physical harm over somebody whom she had power over.

Right now, the anime is making it look like Koneko’s sister was in full control over those events. It might change, but that’s what we got.

Lazy_watcher said:
you know... even if they are Villian in this arc... but... their name is HERO you know... and why you think a hero do something like that... -_-

Lazy_watcher said:
But what he do is against "evil" hero can use trick against "evil" that always happen in myth and folklore.

Lazy_watcher said:
you know... even if they are Villian in this arc... but... their name is HERO you know... and why you think a hero do something like that... -_-