Would you step on the puppy for 18 Million dollars?
 Personally I would destroy that puppy and here is how I'd do it: You guys know the invisible step challenge I would do that but then right as my foot landed I would step down with the invisible step foot, and stomp it into puppy heaven.  |
| It's fine as long as I step on it without killin it. |
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| Never been an animal lover. Easy choice. |
| Hell no, you could offer me all the money in the world and I wouldn't do it. |
| Whhhhyyyyyyyy? Why do this to me? My trope dictates that I kick the puppy for free dammit! I am compelled to kick the puppy! Man, this really takes the whole if you do what you love, it isn't work thing to the next level. Okay. What if... what if I step on the puppy... WAIT! Hear me out before you start foaming at the mouth okay! Like then I use 2 billion to buy it a puppy island to be free with thousands of other puppies or something? Like, I hurt you because I love you? ;_; |
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| Sure I can. You want me to step on this cute little puppy, but you never mentioned anything about killing it, so hand over the 18 billion dollars, or I'll step on your balls. |
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| Sure. Lightly brushing my toes against the puppy counts as "stepping" on it. I would say no if it was actually specified you have to kill the puppy. |
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| Lol for 18 million dollars I'm willing to not only step on it but also kill it, do anything else. It's fucking 18 million dollar. I can become a neet without people judging me since I'm a millionaire |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
| This thread just goes to show that whether 30 characters or 5 it's the quality of your heart that makes a human being. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
FudiFudi said: I think it's implied that you'd have to kill or at least injure it really badly. The point of a moral dilemma is that it gives you a chance to look at yourself and your own standards and norms. If you look for clever loopholes you willingly forego this chance, because you're not forcing yourself to make a real decision and then think about why exactly you're making said decision.It's fine as long as I step on it without killin it. I don't think people here realize how much 18 billion dollars are, so I'm gonna spell it out: $18,000,000,000. With that sort of money you could easily build 1000 animal shelters and keep them running way past the end of your life. Enough to redeem yourself for stepping on a single puppy? I think you know the answer. Keeping that in mind, let's put it differently. NOT stepping on the puppy is immoral, because you throw away the chance of doing so much good in the world just to save one life. You're trading all that future good for something that's vanishingly small next to it. You're a bad person for doing that, or even thinking that this could ever be the correct choice. This moral dilemma isn't really a dilemma at all, the answer is way too clear for that. It's just a test to see who understands utilitarianism and who doesn't. Half of you guys failed. |
Railey2Feb 23, 2018 1:00 AM
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Railey2 said: FudiFudi said: I think it's implied that you'd have to kill or at least injure it really badly. The point of a moral dilemma is that it gives you a chance to look at yourself and your own standards and norms. If you look for clever loopholes you willingly forego this chance, because you're not forcing yourself to make a real decision and then think about why exactly you're making said decision.It's fine as long as I step on it without killin it. I don't think people here realize how much 18 billion dollars are, so I'm gonna spell it out: $18,000,000,000. With that sort of money you could easily build 1000 animal shelters and keep them running way past the end of your life. Enough to redeem yourself for stepping on a single puppy? I think you know the answer. Keeping that in mind, let's put it differently. NOT stepping on the puppy is immoral, because you throw away the chance of doing so much good in the world just to save one life. You're trading all that future good for something that's vanishingly small next to it. You're a bad person for doing that, or even thinking that this could ever be the correct choice. This moral dilemma isn't really a dilemma at all, the answer is way too clear for that. It's just a test to see who understands utilitarianism and who doesn't. Half of you guys failed. It's literally a stupid meme man. You can't fail a meme. Except by breaking it down maybe |
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| @slashie101 It is a stupid meme, but the question itself is way older than that and has been asked many times before in this exact way or slightly differently. Would you do [immoral thing] to get [ridiculously good outcome that can be used to remedy whatever immoral thing you did 10 times over]? |
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Railey2 said: @slashie101 It is a stupid meme, but the question itself is way older than that and has been asked many times before in this exact way or slightly differently. Would you do [immoral thing] to get [ridiculously good outcome that can be used to remedy whatever immoral thing you did 10 times over]? I'm pretty sure the original thing was not so obvious. i.e. the outcome was not ridiculously good and made it a much more difficult debate. The ridiculously good outcome is usually the meme. Hence it being a "stupid" meme because it really doesn't require the consideration you've allotted it. |
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| The trolley problem is a variation of the same question, less obvious but still obvious enough for everyone that knows utilitarianism to instantly give the correct answer. It is also available as meme: https://imgur.com/gallery/QXF8B (some of my favourites right there :b ) Anyway, other people in the thread took it seriously, and so did I. It's more interesting that way. |
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| You took it to a new level though lol. Most people answered the yes or no question and moved on. Not really the same. Besides, the people who already know the justification aren't the ones replying to the posts, or reading the responses :P Except you maybe haha |
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| Yes. And then I'd give half the money to charities which fight things like malaria and schistosomiasis in places like Africa. No rational person would choose "the puppy doesn't get stepped on, but thousands of people die and hundreds of thousands more become disabled because those charities didn't get the money to save them". |
| No. I'd rather step on the human asking me to step on the puppy. |
| @railey2 Told you they wouldn't read it lol |
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| if my step only inflicts the lightest form of harm such as scratch I would without a regret if not I probably will not depend on the situation am i really in need of money or is the pussy an endearment of pet owner |
| I would do it for just 1k bucks. 18 million? Boi there would be just blood and bones left |
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| Sure. I mean, it's not like I'm going to trample it to death. I'd adopt it and take it home with my 18 billions, and give it a life filled with love and luxury. |
| Nah , I won't hurt/kill animal , this money someone else can get but it's not for me :) |
If by step you mean I have to injure or kill it, no. Also I don't even need that much money, it would be nice obviously, but not a necessity. On the other hand, for that animal, his life is a necessity. I could only kill for money what I would already kill for free. Railey2 said: With that sort of money you could easily build 1000 animal shelters and keep them running way past the end of your life. Enough to redeem yourself for stepping on a single puppy? I think you know the answer. Keeping that in mind, let's put it differently. NOT stepping on the puppy is immoral, because you throw away the chance of doing so much good in the world just to save one life. You're trading all that future good for something that's vanishingly small next to it. You're a bad person for doing that, or even thinking that this could ever be the correct choice. It depends a lot on your life values. Sure I could kill one dog in order to save lots of other dogs with that money. But I see the situation this way: Who is the cause of the suffering? If it's not me, then It's likely not my problem, and not my duty to solve it. What I can do for the animals I already do, and it's not killing them for fun/food/money, and also not abusing them for my own benefits. Anything else it's a bonus, not a moral obligation of any sort. I'm not supposed to fix anyone else's problems, even if I had the power to. |
 Ｍｅｎ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｍａｒｓ， Ｗｏｍｅｎ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｖｅｎｕｓ ａｎｄ Ｇａｙｓ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｕｒａｎｕｓ |
lol Not at all, that's such a christian point of view. I'm not into religions, but to be fair satanism seems to be better to animals than christianism: |
Ｍｅｎ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｍａｒｓ， Ｗｏｍｅｎ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｖｅｎｕｓ ａｎｄ Ｇａｙｓ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｕｒａｎｕｓ |
Satan said: It depends a lot on your life values. Sure I could kill one dog in order to save lots of other dogs with that money. But I see the situation this way: Who is the cause of the suffering? If it's not me, then It's likely not my problem, and not my duty to solve it. What I can do for the animals I already do, and it's not killing them for fun/food/money, and also not abusing them for my own benefits. Anything else it's a bonus, not a moral obligation of any sort. I'm not supposed to fix anyone else's problems, even if I had the power to. >See woman getting raped and murdered in a side alley, she's screaming for help >Check: Am I the cause of the problem? Should I call the police? >No >Go home and enjoy chicken tendies >Another successful day in life of Satan |
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| if tapping my foot on it counts then yes |
Railey2 said: Satan said: It depends a lot on your life values. Sure I could kill one dog in order to save lots of other dogs with that money. But I see the situation this way: Who is the cause of the suffering? If it's not me, then It's likely not my problem, and not my duty to solve it. What I can do for the animals I already do, and it's not killing them for fun/food/money, and also not abusing them for my own benefits. Anything else it's a bonus, not a moral obligation of any sort. I'm not supposed to fix anyone else's problems, even if I had the power to. >See woman getting raped and murdered in a side alley, she's screaming for help >Check: Am I the cause of the problem? Should I call the police? >No >Go home and enjoy chicken tendies >Another successful day in life of Satan >See woman getting raped and murdered in a side alley, she's screaming for help >Check: Am I the cause of the problem? >No >Should I call the police? >Maybe, if I want to. >Go home and enjoy chicken tendies tea. >Another successful day in life of Satan |
Ｍｅｎ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｍａｒｓ， Ｗｏｍｅｎ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｖｅｎｕｓ ａｎｄ Ｇａｙｓ Ａｒｅ Ｆｒｏｍ Ｕｒａｎｕｓ |
WyNdZ said: Gan_water said: This thread just goes to show that whether 30 characters or 5 it's the quality of your heart that makes a human being. If it soothes your heart then I'm sure half of the members on MAL would volunteer to get stepped on instead of that puppy. In fact they'd pay you money to step on them. Clearly I'm MAL's resident dominatrix ;) |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| I love dogs and animals but I would step on every single puppy in the world for that money. |
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| I'll just rob the guy giving me the offer instead |
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| I would treat it as a possible Scam and walk away, since it's just way too unlikely that someone would be willing to spend that much Money on it. Also, even with a more realistic Offer like 1000 Euros or 100 Euros or 10 Euros, I wouldn't do it, since there is no Guarantee that I will get the Money for doing it. |
| I''d eat puppy stew for half of that. |
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| > poll says $18 million > image says $18 billion I'd do it for either one though... But then I would feel bad and give that puppy a nice funeral and then spend a lot of money on animal philanthropy afterwards in his memory. |
 What's the difference? |
| No, puppies are pure and better than many humans are anyway. Only a sick fuck would pay that much money to have someone do that. I'd rather earn that money a different way or not earn it at all if it meant taking the life an innocent creature. |
ExecCuteFeb 23, 2018 4:33 PM
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| Puppies are cute and all... But I can use 18 billion dollars to push the progress on enviromental technologies to save the cutest and most important thing of all...  |
| "Goodbye, everyone. I'll remember you all in therapy." Matou Sakura, Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel |
| I like how you posted 18 billion dollars to sway as many people's heart as possible. No I can't do it. |
| I'd believe you if you mention about lottery or something. But it's too good to be true. But anyway, stay strong and trolling. |
| I'm not puppy hater, but 18 Billion dollars is 18 Billion dollars. |
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| no i like animals but if i had to kill a human like a baby or any other human THEN YES. Id kill kids and babies with pleasure without 2nd thought |
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| with the 18 million, billion dollars i could improve the lives of so many animals and have the money leftover to build a solid gold statue in honor of the puppy that gave its life for the greater good. |
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| 1. Very lightly step on puppy 2. Use newly awarded money to pay vetbills, if puppy gets hurt too badly 3. ???? 4. Bask in all of your money with your new puppy |
| If I would get 18 million dollars by stepping on a puppy, then sign me up. But if I had to kill the puppy, then I would have to reconsider. |
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