| Well, I don't mind the genre as it adds more "spice" to the anime, but it makes the ending so bittersweet. In my opinion, I think that it's unsatisfying; seeing an anime -or, basically, any drama series- end like that leaves an unfilled hole in my heart. The thing is, the "spice" that drama gives to an anime is so compelling... and it sucks you in to hurt your soul. But it's what makes an anime great. Some anime like White Album 2, (I really recommend it watch it plox) gives you that unexplainable feeling of... unexplainable things and stuff, while other anime series tone down the drama so it doesn't punch you in the gut in the end. I prefer heavy drama, like White Album 2 levels of drama, where it just sucks you in and then explodes on top of you, leaving you broken in the end. It feels good watching that bittersweet conclusion, while it hurts my soul at the same time. |
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| There's just something about dramas that really hooks me from the get go, whether if it is melodramatic, subtle or realistic... most of the time I will like it. Maybe it's because I want to see an array of emotions be exhibited by myself as I get immerse in the plot and characters of a drama. I'm not quite sure myself but one's thing for sure, the portrayal of human drama in fiction is amazing to behold. As someone who has seen quite a handful of anime dramas, I would say that this medium handles it quite well for the most part. Even the mostly criticized melodramatic dramas does it job well enough in making people feel things or at the very least making me feel things. As much as I don't have problems with melodramas, I prefer it subtle or realistic. Just take a look at my favorites and you'll see what I mean. |
NihilisticLoner said: potatobuurr said: Well, I don't mind the genre as it adds more "spice" to the anime, but it makes the ending so bittersweet. In my opinion, I think that it's unsatisfying; seeing an anime -or, basically, any drama series- end like that leaves an unfilled hole in my heart. The thing is, the "spice" that drama gives to an anime is so compelling... and it sucks you in to hurt your soul. But it's what makes an anime great. Some anime like White Album 2, (I really recommend it watch it plox) gives you that unexplainable feeling of... unexplainable things and stuff, while other anime series tone down the drama so it doesn't punch you in the gut in the end. I prefer heavy drama, like White Album 2 levels of drama, where it just sucks you in and then explodes on top of you, leaving you broken in the end. It feels good watching that bittersweet conclusion, while it hurts my soul at the same time. Do you also like those big scenes, where characters cry and scream about how they feel? I haven't seen White Album, or really know much of it. It hurts, but I do. Those scenes are very frequent in romance anime, but very effective when used at the correct time and place. Those scenes always show the character's true feelings -and personalities sometimes- and it helps the plot/story thicken and progress which rarely happens in any other anime. IT HURTS. A LOT. But it's sooooooooooooooo effective. |
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| For me it depends... I love subtle dramas, but I don't mind over-the-top drama as long as it's realistic. If the main character's an idiot, or if the main drama is full of dumb misunderstandings, or if one character's a jerk purely because they can be a jerk, then it's a no go. The worst offender is when characters have illnesses, though. It can work if 1. They name the illness and 2. It's plausible for that character to have that illness. That's the biggest flaw of Shigatsu no Kimi no Uso and what completely ruined the second half of Sword Art Online II for me. I think the only exception to this was Clannad AS. Or when dramas are cliche. That's also a pain. That's why I really didn't like White Album 2 as much as everyone else seemed to... So, yeah, mostly subtle, realistic dramas for me. |
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| According to my favs it seems I prefer melodramatic stuff (Oregairu , and Your lie on April being two of the most melodramatic shows out there) but I can't stand things like Anohana , , I was yawning , I was more interested in shipping the MC with the other girl. Still not a bad show , I just didn't like the main girl. I think drama is well-handled in Josei shows like Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju or Kids on the Slope. |
NihilisticLoner said: I've never really thought about this question, so thanks for asking it. Anyway, I think I like drama because it allows me to take it seriously, not just dismissing crazy things in the name of comedy but actually, with a relative degree of realism, having the opportunity to consider the emotions and empathize with the experiences of the characters that experience the drama.1) Why do you like drama? Basically, it's more meaningful to empathize with a character in a drama than in a comedy. NihilisticLoner said: Sometimes I feel it's undesirably interrupted with comedic elements. I get the idea of "lightening up the mood", but generally I'd prefer something like witty comments, not absurdist/slapstick gags which anime tends to be fond of.2) How do you feel anime executes drama? NihilisticLoner said: Never seen House of Five Leaves, so I can't really work the comparison you've given me, but I think I generally prefer a more serious presentation. Action can fit into this pretty easily, but there's only so much of a place for comic relief. On the other hand, though, being overly serious and trying to go "artsy" might turn me off, so there needs to be a balance, focused on delivering the story effectively.3) How dramatic do you prefer drama in anime to be handled? Do you prefer Angel Beats that goes all hard on nailing its drama with over-the-top backstories and characters screaming and cry, or do you prefer House of Five Leaves, where the drama is much quieter, and the characters do not scream and cry? |
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| I deal with enough drama from people in my everyday life. I don't need more of it in my chinese cartoons. Keep it subtle as possible. |
| not my cup of tea i guess,,, i watch anime to get happily entertained... i am historian, drama is like my everyday... |
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pgmhecateii said: Jare4lopez said: According to my favs it seems I prefer melodramatic stuff (Oregairu , and Your lie on April being two of the most melodramatic shows out there) but I can't stand things like Anohana , , I was yawning , I was more interested in shipping the MC with the other girl. Still not a bad show , I just didn't like the main girl. I agree so much...she was pretty annoying...Me, on the other hand, find things like Oregairu and Shigatsu kinda dull and boring. I actually liked Anohana, just not Menma. So I guess I don't really enjoy drama since they're often really boring and slow, and no good characters. I don't know why, but the fact you don't have a forum avatar really irritates me... I don't know why but I think you should have quoted OP's post , not mine... |
No offense man, but is there anything you DON'T think "anime handles terribly"? All you do is make threads that complain about "how anime handles things"; with all this negativity, I'm kind of amazed you keep watching it. Anyway, I thrive on drama. Why? I dunno.......I just like things that make me feel strongly. Also I like seeing characters go through hardships because.............I'm a sadist. characters constantly screaming and crying. That is what humans do when they are upset. |
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NihilisticLoner said: In fact, I think that was why I was obsessed with Angel Beats when I was a kid. It was the first drama I watched, and it was during a time when I was JUST getting into anime. So I really connected with it at the time. If I watched it today though, I think I'd really dislike it for how melodramatic it was, thinking back. Angel Beats is a bit of a weird case with regards to drama. There's a lot of comedy, slice-of-life, etc. in the early episodes, but much of that is arguably irrelevant and/or only metaphorically related to the actual core of the plot, if we go with my personal interpretation that the whole setting is basically just a made-up fantasy that the characters indulge in, partly to avoid moving on. NihilisticLoner said: Angel Beats does this, but probably a better example would be Plastic Memories.I haven't watched much drama anime in the past few years, but from my memory, I don't really remember ever seeing comedy interrupt the drama. Could you name some anime that does this, maybe? NihilisticLoner said: I don't think "dark" is the right term. I don't particularly like things to be excessively "dark", either with respect to visual aesthetics or with regards to content (e.g. driving characters to despair doesn't make good drama, for me).GlennMagusHarvey said: but I think I generally prefer a more serious presentation. Action can fit into this pretty easily, but there's only so much of a place for comic relief. When you say, "serious" do you mean, "dark" like 91 Days? I think a better example might be Law & Order, the live-action TV show. It's known for being pretty realistic as far as crime drama, police procedural shows go -- the characters take plausible actions, the legal reasoning has at least some merit to it, characters are generally competent and focused on their jobs rather than comedically incompetent or weird just for fun, and the show has little music (surprising, given how much emphasis I usually put on music). In my favorite episodes, everything feels laser-focused on telling the story and setting the pieces in place and allowing the characters to move them to make the plot happen. L&O isn't especially gritty. If anything, the "good guys" tend to "win" pretty often, e.g. catching and successfully prosecuting the perp. But its a good example of a show that doesn't care much for pizzazz and cares a lot more about "getting shit done". That said, L&O isn't the only kind of drama I like. I do also like deeply emotional drama, and while L&O is often deeply emotional (at least for me), it's also not a particularly good example of this. Character development dramas like Eureka Seven and Strain and Neon Genesis Evangelion are probably better examples. NihilisticLoner said: Narcissu the VN? I've read the first story and I remember it being relatively subdued, not particularly "artsy"...GlennMagusHarvey said: On the other hand, though, being overly serious and trying to go "artsy" might turn me off, so there needs to be a balance, focused on delivering the story effectively. Now THIS...is fascinating. Because I feel the exact opposite. I've become tired of realistic dramas (a large reason why I almost loathed the movie Colorful). Now, I want to see dramas being artsty or NOT realistic, but still NOT be over the top, Narcissu being the best example I can think of. |
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pgmhecateii said: yeah I know , I understand those who don't enjoy Oregairu/Your Lie in April , they both have a many flaws , but hell , I still love 'em .Really? Well, I suck at talking to people so it's no biggie. I was kinda replying to ya in my first couple sentences. I enjoyed Anohana til the last episode tbh ,THAT scene killed the show IMO , I was expecting sth better and the thing is that you can't feel sad for a character you don't like , that's all. |
pgmhecateii said: Jare4lopez said: yeah I know , I understand those who don't enjoy Oregairu/Your Lie in April , they both have a many flaws , but hell , I still love 'em . I enjoyed Anohana til the last episode tbh ,THAT scene killed the show IMO , I was expecting sth better and the thing is that you can't feel sad for a character you don't like , that's all. Ya think? I actually ended up crying, but it was one of my first 100 anime, so I don't know if I'll have the same reaction if I watched it now. I also watched a YT video about saddest anime moments, but I didn't shed a single tear and felt bored when I watched the Anohana scene again. I don't tend to cry with these so-called "Saddest" anime , I've cried more watching Battle Shounens like One Piece or Naruto , especially One Piece . However , the post-anime depression is worse in these sad anime . I gave Angel Beats a 6 and I didn't cry at the ending scene, but I felt like shit after finishing it. |
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NihilisticLoner said: Makes sense. In the long run, teenage romance doesn't tend to mean much, but in the moment, it's everything. So I can see why so many romance shows end up in tears.I think I just have a lack of sympathy for others when it comes to getting emotional. Because I consider myself to be an emotionally strong person. The other day, a kid was crying in class about their boyfriend breaking up, and I was just scratching my head thinking, "Dude, I've been expelled from classes, you don't have the right to cry over something stupid as teenage romance". Plus, when it comes to IRL, there's a lot of things that could be going on under the surface. Romance might not be the only problem, but it might be the one that manifests the most clearly. |
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| I think anime does melodrama better than Japanese live action tv shows. Those are needlessly sappy and the acting is pretty average most of the time. So it breaks the immersion when the acting is mediocre. I guess the medium of anime does drama better because it's easier to draw the expressions you want onto the character and match them with their seiyuu. I noticed seiyuus do a better acting job than Japanese actors a lot of the time. I guess seeing a human's expression you can pretty much guess if they're forcing themselves to act out those feeling or if they come out naturally. So only good actors can captivate the audience, while for average or mediocre actors you can see right through their acting. But that doesn't mean there aren't over-the-top sappy anime out there. Like Angel Beats, it was trying so hard to make the audience feel sorry for the characters showing their tragic backstories but the characters themselves weren't interesting or likeable enough to care for them. So knowing that, the creators amped-up the drama. Another factor that pulls me out of a dramatic story is like others already pointed out, the discrepancy between sad moments and comedic moments. It's just unnecessary in my opinion and becomes really jarring when absurdist comedy is combined with serious drama. So I prefer more subtle drama. My favorite is Rurouni Kenshin:Tsuioku-hen. It uses symbolism, foreshadowing and facial expressions to convey tragedy. I love it when there are not a lot of words said but you can get the feelings of a character through their expressions and gestures. Rurouni Kenshin:Tsuioku-hen does that masterfully. Another drama anime done well is Monster. Since it's so realistic, it makes it easy to empathize with the characters and believe that's the real world and the things that happen to the characters could happen to you as well. Koe no Katachi was another drama that I really liked and portrayed the feelings of the characters in a delicate but painful way. Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki and Omoide no Marnie were pretty poignant and moving as well. Be it anime or live-action, Japanese people really like tear-jerkers. There's even a term for it, mostly for games: "utsuge" (depressing/melancholy game) or "nakige" ("crying game/sob story game"). |
| Most dramas I've seen are character driven and I love that kind of stuff. I just like listening to other people and with drama you're basically on the first row with the things people want to say. Anime handles drama well enough for it to be my favorite genre (according to Malgraph) so nothing to complain about. Depends, as long as it's believeable I have no problems with people sobbing and screaming their anger out. What I don't like is when, like in Anohana, they go from crying because everyone throws away their appearance to laughing their ass off in the exact same scene. That literally cost Anohana two points. |
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pgmhecateii said: Jare4lopez said: I don't tend to cry with these so-called "Saddest" anime , I've cried more watching Battle Shounens like One Piece or Naruto , especially One Piece . However , the post-anime depression is worse in these sad anime . I gave Angel Beats a 6 and I didn't cry at the ending scene, but I felt like shit after finishing it. I've never cried in drama anime (Anohana being an exception), but I've cried in anime like Gintama, Ansatsu Kyoushitsu, FMAB. I guess FMAB is technically a battle shounen...saddest anime vids are crap though. They're not sad in the least...I've cried more times in one-two cour shounen anime than in drama anyways. I didn't feel anything in Angel Beats since I know right? and yeah , I've met very few who haven't cried in FMAB , they must have a heart of stone or some shit like that , idk. Haven't finished Gintama yet ,but I have never cried in it as far . Anyway , There's an episode where Kagura and Gin can't fall asleep so they turn on the radio ... shit , "Gomen Jerry" almost made me cry before it became a horror story , lol. |
| 1. I like it because when done correctly it really interests me to continue watching the show, plus it also makes me feel empathy towards the situation (which adds to the enjoyment) 2. It's really an even split for me. I find some drama to be pretty well done like generic answer Clannad or Your lie in April, whereas I find some drama like the ones in Love Live to be just absolutely ridiculous 3. Quantity of drama doesn't really matter to me. It can be the most over the top dramatic situation or the most subtle piece of drama if I end up feeling in a positive sense towards what I've seen then it's good drama to me |
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| I am generally a fan of drama, stuff like Your Name, Koe no Katachi, and Anohana are my favorite anime. Why I like it, probably because when done right it draws emotions out of me that I rarely experience, so it in a way euphoric. There are some, maybe many, anime that do drama really wrong, but those don't really ruin the genre for me, so whatever. (Also yes I'm a feelsfag and cried at Anohana) |
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NihilisticLoner said: @Short_Circut Am I the only person who found the drama in Love Live to be realistic and genuine? Why does everyone think the drama sucks? Im sorry but some of the decisions that led to the drama I found to be absolutely ridiculous (like Honoka choosing to run in the rain to 'improve' her fitness when she was already feeling somewhat ill) And I don't know about you but I find it hard to believe that a high school girl is able to run from her school to the airport faster than it takes another girl to walk from her chair to the airplane gates |
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NihilisticLoner said: Never underestimate the horrors wonders of raging hormones and brain chemistry.Why do teens care about romance that much in the moment? It's just their raging hormones and/or instincts making them believe they'd found their, "chosen one". |
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velvetPhos said: I kinda feel this. I mean, I still give those anime a decent score because I felt a ton of crap at the moment, and I tend to base at least part of my score on that.I felt emotional at the moment I watched the show, but I didn’t give a shit after finishing the show. I don’t want those drama. velvetPhos said: But you're right on this, too. These shows are where the best drama anime are. The stuff that really sticks with you.On the other hand, anime like Rose of Versailles and Shouwa Genroku had drama that stay in my heart. I want those. I guess the healthy balance is what I feel when I'm listening to/watching the OP/ED/Insert song. If I can feel at least a little bit emotional while listening to that, then my feelings were, to some extent, justified. |
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| The most common problem with drama in anime and mango is it's often straight up retarded. Then again, humans tend to lack perspective even more than they lack intelligence... |
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NihilisticLoner said: Thinking back, I don't remember what justification there was for any of the drama in A Silent Voice. I mean, being bullied is a pretty good reason to feel emotional/have drama. And both of the main characters were bullied. *shrug* |
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NihilisticLoner said: Umm... that's not how psychology works. Being bullied can really affect the way people think, act, feel, all for years to come, especially in formative years such as childhood. Maybe you're strong enough to get over things like that, but that's not true of everyone (including those characters). I don't know what else to tell you. ...Which all happened like, 10 years ago. Like, get over it. You have your right to your opinion on the anime, but when it comes to IRL, for the love of heavens, please don't tell people to just "get over it". It'll make things worse. |
OfDeathandLoveFeb 5, 2018 11:36 PM
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| 1. well, drama is basically one of the most used type of genre in Television, anime included. i do love watch anime drama when i feel like it, because seeing a characters getting through a problem, and the proccess to overcome the problem, with all the detailed character development and storytelling, can trigger our sense of emphaty towards the character, sometimes we can relate ourselves to their problem, or how they are thinking about things. 2. i think anime execute it pretty well, i dont watch a lot of drama, but the ones i find is pretty much can make me feeling it. heartwarming romantic drama like Orange or depressing one like Kuzu no Honkai, romantic comedy drama like ReLife and Chunnibyo, those tones are really serious if you take a look on a deeper side on it 3. Drama is pretty broad in terms of sub-genre though, one of my favorite drama is Shirobako, is a comedy drama, so the tone is not really all serious and dramatic. but if we talked about the dramatic one, i really loved the ones that involves an emotional breakdown or despair, like Kiseijuu and NHK ni Youkoso!, and also for manga is Shigeshoushi, Ore ga Doutei wo Sutetara Shinu Ken ni Tsuite, Ibitsu, etc |
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| Because every form of television and film is drama. Drama is actually not a genre in it of itself. But I do like stories that have a more darker and dramatic edge. It just is more real to more and usually has more to say. Extremely well. Evangelion, Psycho Pass, Elfen Lied, FMA: BA, Death Note, AOT, Monster, Fate Zero, Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass, Steins Gate, Darker Than Black, Your Lie In April, Nana, Noir, Gunslinger Girl, Orange and Clannad After Story are a few examples of great Anime dramas that I would put side by side with live action dramas. Film wise, all of Makoto Shinkai's films, A Silent Voice, Wolf Children, Grave of Fireflies, Perfect Blue, Princess Monokee and The Wind Rises All of these Anime shows are able to get to the point where I am not even thinking that it is an Anime and I am just watching a display of pure humanity. Makoto Shinkai is probably not only the best at drama in Anime, but in filmmaking right now period. The way that he executes it is perfect. He is able to create emotion at every turn. NihilisticLoner said: 3) How dramatic do you prefer drama in anime to be handled? Do you prefer Angel Beats that goes all hard on nailing its drama with over-the-top backstories and characters screaming and cry, or do you prefer House of Five Leaves, where the drama is much quieter, and the characters do not scream and cry? All stories are different. Angel Beats is a bit overrated. But, that story was effective and the ending was a huge emotional punch. But, I also like how subtle Mushishi was with it's drama. Same with Noir and Gunslinger Girl. The best at it is again, Makoto Shinaki. He is able to pierce through the veil of everyday life and create something beautiful. Series wise, Clannad After Story does it amazingly well. You don't cry at least once during that series then you have no heart. |
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NihilisticLoner said: 1) Why do you like drama? 2) How do you feel anime executes drama? 3) How dramatic do you prefer drama in anime to be handled? Do you prefer Angel Beats that goes all hard on nailing its drama with over-the-top backstories and characters screaming and cry, or do you prefer House of Five Leaves, where the drama is much quieter, and the characters do not scream and cry? 1) Eh, it add tension and I love emotional moments/scenes 2) I have no problem with it as fas as I know 3) I do like Angel Beats, haven't watched House of Five Leaves. I do like drama but not as the main genre. Only as subplot. |
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| I don't really like drama Anime handles drama like how it handles romance How dramatic it is doesn't really matter to me. I for once didn't knew Clannad was the best medicine if I can't sleep in the evening. |
NihilisticLoner said: To clarify, not bullying, but being bullied. Which, once again, both main characters were.How can bullying someone as a kid traumatize you? Child abuse traumatizes people. Rape traumatizes people. And because bullying includes physical abuse, isolation, mocking, etc. A lot of children often find reasons to blame themselves for the bullying, too (i.e. "If I were nicer, they wouldn't bully me"). After being treated like that, it can be hard to trust people of the same age after that. All of this seriously affects self-esteem, completely ruining it in many cases. Once again, this is happening in childhood, some of the most formative years of a person's life. Proof pudding. |
OfDeathandLoveFeb 6, 2018 6:39 AM
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NihilisticLoner said: That's the way I see it, at least. Because it is a coherent explanation of seemingly disconnected events....That, theory, actually sounds perfect. Especially with how absurd the idea of going to high school after being dead is. Unfortunately, I don't remember any hints of it being true, in the anime. NihilisticLoner said: I watched Angel Beats at...according to my records, a few years ago, and I'm in my twenties, so maybe my perspective was different.I don't remember comedy getting in the way in Angel Beats (I watched this show when I was like, I think...11?), and I haven't watched Plastic Memories. NihilisticLoner said: Sometimes I see an artistic element in something that's not typically classified as a certain thing. For example, I think that the first season Pokémon has some memorably touching drama scenes, even though it's not really famous for this element.I thought the way the characters were handled in Eva was amazing, but I don't consider that anime to be a drama. NihilisticLoner said: Narcissu is a visual novel, so it's a little odd for a comparison. That said I thought it was...okay? It didn't quite pop out at me the same way some anime dramas have. And I've read another VN that I think does drama more effectively, that being fault milestone one.Actually, what do you think of dramas like Narcissu? You said you like emotional dramas, but there's a spectrum, and I think Narcissu falls on the extreme side. |
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NihilisticLoner said: Short_Circut said: Im sorry but some of the decisions that led to the drama I found to be absolutely ridiculous (like Honoka choosing to run in the rain to 'improve' her fitness when she was already feeling somewhat ill) I don't understand why you find that hard to believe. Plenty of people who are passionate about something, and place great importance on it (especially when it's a hobby and a major event) do push themselves to ridiculous lengths. Short_Circut said: And I don't know about you but I find it hard to believe that a high school girl is able to run from her school to the airport faster than it takes another girl to walk from her chair to the airplane gates When was this? The movie (I hated it)? That still doesn't excuse the event from being ridiculous. I never said I found it hard to believe those events, but rather I found those events to be idiotic. Like I said before, I personally find drama to be considered good if I can feel some sort of emotional empathy for the situation, whereas in that case, all I could feel was frustration over Honoka's irrational decisions passion or not (and even as she was warned and aware herself the risks associated with her potential actions) As for when the airport scene happened, it happens towards the end (i believe?) of the first season when . |
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| I love melodramatic stuff like Oniisama e |
| Hate it for two reasons: 1. Anime almost always does characters poorly. Simple, one trope line segments are not characters. If you're asking me to genuinely care about Tsundere-chan, you're going to fail. 2. Because it can't make you care, it just overblows the melodrama to see if it can't get anything out of you or by having the characters cry all the time. Example, Clannad. The characters are terrible so it decides to just throw every sad trope under the sun at you to try to give you "teh feelz", which frequently just comes across as comical. Or Angel Beats, which has the exact same problems in less episodes and a better OST. |
NihilisticLoner said: kI4synVCfn7PMH4w said: Hate it for two reasons: 1. Anime almost always does characters poorly. Simple, one trope line segments are not characters. If you're asking me to genuinely care about Tsundere-chan, you're going to fail. 2. Because it can't make you care, it just overblows the melodrama to see if it can't get anything out of you or by having the characters cry all the time. Example, Clannad. The characters are terrible so it decides to just throw every sad trope under the sun at you to try to give you "teh feelz", which frequently just comes across as comical. Or Angel Beats, which has the exact same problems in less episodes and a better OST. I think I agree with you, I just don't feel as negative about drama in anime as you do. In the past few years, the dramas I can name on the top of my head that actually made me feel are Oregairu and Welcome to the NHK, but those are comedy-dramas. I think you'll love House of Five Leaves. There's no screaming, or ranting about how characters feel, or crying, except at the end, but even that crying scene was really mellowed down and quiet. I remember watching Clannad as a kid, and it got me the feelz. I think it still would if I watched it now. Angel Beats hit me hard as a kid, but if I were to watch it now, I think it'd make me cringe. What I'm confused about is why you seem to put Clannad and Angel Beats together. Because from my memory, Angel Beats was WAY more melodramatic, than Clannad. I'll look at House of Five Leaves. As for Angel Beats and Clannad, partially because they're both made by Jun Maeda. Partially because they have the same problems. At least season 1 Clannad, season 2 improved somewhat. I remember the time I originally dropped Clannad (Which I, for better or for worse, eventually finished) was during the Kotomi arc because of how awful her backstory was. If I drank every time a sad trope came up I would have died half way through her backstory. It comes across more laughable than sad, especially with that broken english song Ana that they kept on playing. They never really bothered characterizing anyone other than the protagonist. You have Quirky Girl, Fight Girl, Book Girl, Tsundere Twin, Shy Twin, and Nice Girl and I don't know why I should care about any of them. Instead they just layer on sad trope after sad trope and characters crying just to try to brute force something out of the audience. Angel Beats, I feel, is just as melodramatic but gets a mild pass for the nature of the series. If these people had happy lives, we would not see them here. Then again, it also doesn't justify things like the protagonist's backstory or whoever the leader was. |
| I much prefer drama. It would be nice if a studio would take a risk and do a "mundane" crime drama. Maybe 12 episodes involving the investigation and resolution of a single homicide. Think something like the Korean films like "Mother" or "Memories of Murder." It would take real balls though, especially considering the faggy nature of so much of anime fandom. |
redtailrav said: I much prefer drama. It would be nice if a studio would take a risk and do a "mundane" crime drama. Maybe 12 episodes involving the investigation and resolution of a single homicide. Think something like the Korean films like "Mother" or "Memories of Murder." It would take real balls though, especially considering the faggy nature of so much of anime fandom. Please no, that genre is overused in my own country to the point every channel needs to have one and book publishers won't publish anything else. I don't need anime to go down that path. |
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holysauron said: What I don't like is when, like in Anohana, they go from crying because everyone throws away their appearance to laughing their ass off in the exact same scene. That literally cost Anohana two points. But this moment is very important because laughing together made them finally realize they're all friends again? And it's realistic interaction and response. People go from crying to laughing all the time. |
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