| With that Bill 156 that passed in December 2010 which banned actual incest and vague "sexual acts that would violate criminal codes or Tokyo ordinances" in anime and manga, has this hurt the industry? Shouldn't they be allowed to produce content they want that doesn't harm people involved in production? |
IpreferEcchiFeb 3, 2018 7:11 AM
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| Do you have any exemple of things pre 2010, that wouldn't be possible now ? |
| what power does the governor of tokyo have? we'll just make loli porn in hokkaido and kyoto |
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| The bill only gave those titles an 18+ restriction; some publishers chose to pull their manga rather than have the sales take a massive hit from such a restriction, such as the publisher of Aki Sora, but it really hasn't affected that much. To Love Ru Darkness is still on shelves for any age to buy. |
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| Well Like some ppl have said here, there was no ban. Just a 18+ Rating and Publishers dropped 18+ series because they were afraid of losing profit. But that goes for entertainment as a whole. There hasn't really been an really explicit anime series made in the recent years until Crybaby came. Same with Movies and Deadpool. |
| https://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/bill-156s-total-scope/ “Any manga, animation, or pictures (but not including real life pictures or footage) that features either sexual or pseudo sexual acts that would be illegal in real life, or sexual or pseudo sexual acts between close relatives whose marriage would be illegal*, where such depictions and / or presentations unjustifiably glorify or exaggerate the activity.” "Any material that is excessively breaches this standard can be deemed to be “harmful material” by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government unilaterally and thereby restrict their circulation from all minors (0-17 of age)" they're not banned, you just can't sell them to a certain audience. but just like alcohol, just get your onii-chan to buy it for you. |
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| I didn't know there was something like this. But I don't think it'll hurt the industry. I haven't heard about those kinds of anime and I'm sure their number is not in the majority of all anime out there. |
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Mordeth_Kai said: Hanamuke said: Do you have any exemple of things pre 2010, that wouldn't be possible now ? Angel Sanctuary, incest is a central theme. Of course, there is also Shakespeare's Hamlet. Putting constraints on art is never good. The industry will survive it because it has no choice, but such limitations should never be made. The only things that should be illegal is CP and snuff films because they require criminal acts to produce, but the problem isn't the content but the crime, otherwise action and horror movies would be the same exact moral dilemma. Sometimes you need to have some forms of restraints in place because children often don't have a developed enough understanding on right and wrong. Certain subject matter isn't suitable for people of a non-adult age group, and exposing kids to certain things when they're too young to properly understand the ramifications of their actions, especially in this era of poor parenthood, would be doing these adolencents a disservice. Restraints aren't the same as banning something though. I do agree that you shouldn't outright ban things that don't actually hurt anyone to produce. Honestly in this day and age, I don't think there should be THAT big of a problem garnering an audience for something in the adult demographic. It frustrates me that the main target demographic for almost every entertainment industry is teenagers and children. |
| Any law of this nature that restricts creativity is a step back instead of forward. Even if all it means in this case is your have have to be 18+ to step beyond the curtain to get it, it can still impact sales and the author/publisher's means of income. These guys are already poor as hell and overworked it's just kicking them while they're down... |
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| they just stricten the cencorship, that's all... they will simply move.... remember when jump still showing nipple? when it's banned, does ecchi in jump gone? not really... artist simply find a way! |
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Mordeth_Kai said: FontSize72LOL said: Sometimes you need to have some forms of restraints in place because children often don't have a developed enough understanding on right and wrong. Certain subject matter isn't suitable for people of a non-adult age group, and exposing kids to certain things when they're too young to properly understand the ramifications of their actions, especially in this era of poor parenthood, would be doing these adolencents a disservice. Restraints aren't the same as banning something though. I do agree that you shouldn't outright ban things that don't actually hurt anyone to produce. Honestly in this day and age, I don't think there should be THAT big of a problem garnering an audience for something in the adult demographic. It frustrates me that the main target demographic for almost every entertainment industry is teenagers and children. I support rating systems up to a point, because I support parents right to raise their child as they see fit, but that is quickly becoming a moot point. Consider how many kids have smart phones before they are even in high school and have unlimited and unsupervised internet access. There's nothing to keep modern kids from looking at porn or any other adult material, and in spite of growing up like this millennials are the most puritanical generation since the 80's. The reasoning is sound but the evidence doesn't line up. Up to a point, Looking a porn isn't the worst. My problem comes with the consumption of exceedingly degenerate porn, which isn't as easy to find unless you know what you're looking for. That kind of thing probably isn't even all that healthy as an adult, but at least adults (usually) have the self-awareness to know what kind of things are normal in a sexual relationship, and what isn't. Considering the stuff I've encountered, I think restrictions on non-vanilla sexual content and ideas to adults is probably a good idea. |
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