Let it be known that just because it's a Trigger (and A1) anime doesn't mean that it'll be another Kill la Kill or TTGL.
| It's unlikely that this show will be another "balls to the walls" insane 'hype'fest like Gurren Lagann or Kill la Kill. Nishigori (not Imaishi) is directing this one. We might see some cool action scenes since Imaishi is directing action but keep in mind this is a different team comp to the 'hype' Trigger shows. If you're looking for the next TTGL or Kill la Kill look no further than Promare. Promare is an upcoming Trigger original anime directed and written by Imaishi and Nakashima the same team that brought you Kill la Kill and TTGL. So far the only information we have about Promare is a quote from Masumoto Kazuya: " I can't discuss the plot of Promare at this point but it is created by Imaishi and Nakashima so it's safe to expect what you're expecting, it's also safe to expect more than what you're expecting." I'm not saying Darling in the franks will be bad I'm just trying to correct people that might be expecting something that might not be the case and hating Darling in the Franks because of it. I'm excited too! Hope this can correct some misconceptions. |
| >anime directed by another person will be different This is exactly the reason why I'm excited about it. |
| I'm not saying to not be excited. I'm just saying don't expect a Kill la Kill or Gurren Lagann. This show can be a masterpiece just in a different way. |
| You should look at the staff, as it usually has a lot more to do with the actual anime than studio alone. If you did this you'd know Promare is far more likely to be similar to Kill La Kill or TTGL. It's being directed by Hiroyuki Imaishi and script by Kazuki Nakashima. Who were behind TTGL, KLK and other popular/successful Gainax work. Darling in the FranXX can be good or bad. We'll have to find out, but you shouldn't expect it to be like other trigger work. It seems it will be a lot more drama focused going off the trailer. |
| Wow! 😱 A series that's not directed by the director of KLK and TTGL won't have the same directing style! Next you're gonna tell me that Little Witch Academia and Kiznaiver didn't have the same exact tone. |
| No idea it was Trigger tbh, now I have a reason to pick this up. |
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| Sorry if my tone was off but you'd be surprised at how many people see Trigger and expect TTGL or Kill la Kill. Seriously you guys should check out some of the reviews people leave on this site! I'm just hoping that this post could help even one person understand that it isn't as simple as a studio makes X so everything will be like X and give Darling in the Franks a fair chance. |
| whatever, TRIGGER WILL SAVE ANIME NONETHELESS! |
Edward Elric > your waifu  |
Jack_100HP said: Dlwuik said: it failed so many times what makes you sure that they'll save it wigh this?whatever, TRIGGER WILL SAVE ANIME NONETHELESS! because everything trigger makes (besides kiznaiver) is good. |
Edward Elric > your waifu |
Dlwuik said: Jack_100HP said: it failed so many times what makes you sure that they'll save it wigh this? because everything trigger makes (besides kiznaiver) is good. Kiznaiver was alright, I mean it wasn't horrible, definitely not on like TTGL or Kill La Kill's level though. This on the otherhand, just sounds generic and mediocre. I'm glad the TTGL crew isn't involved in this, because no amount of Trigger could offset that premise. Even the main character's design makes it seem like they're trying to make a self insert character. I hope I'm wrong and that it actually ends up being a good anime, but I just can't get excited for it, that premise is so weak and unoriginal. Even Trigger's B-teams usually make more original anime, so to me this seems less like a Trigger anime and more of an A-1 anime. |
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burntphoenix said: This on the otherhand, just sounds generic and mediocre. I'm glad the TTGL crew isn't involved in this, because no amount of Trigger could offset that premise. Even the main character's design makes it seem like they're trying to make a self insert character. I hope I'm wrong and that it actually ends up being a good anime, but I just can't get excited for it, that premise is so weak and unoriginal. Even Trigger's B-teams usually make more original anime, so to me this seems less like a Trigger anime and more of an A-1 anime. Wasn't the interview with the producer telling exactly the opposite? "A1 is actually letting Trigger handle most of the creative process. Planning, design, concept, content; that is all handled by Trigger. A1 focuses more on making sure the vision gets to the screen. Nishigori is inexperienced with action so he is letting Imaishi and the guys at Trigger handle that. Nishigori was all "if Imaishi doesn't do it we can't do this" and left the action sequences to to Imaishi's imagination. Nishgori wants people to watch the show and realize that nobody other than Imaishi could have done the action scenes. They let Imaishi go wild because they want a real feel of contrast with the human drama of the non-action scenes. They have wild action scenes from episode 1." This whole situation starts to remind me of "don't watch this anime" posts in Kemono Friends' discussion forums. We didn't get a chance to watch the 1st episode yet, but there are already some people saying things far beyond being just pessimistic. |
autistic_potatoJan 9, 2018 9:59 PM
Aelyn said: burntphoenix said: This on the otherhand, just sounds generic and mediocre. I'm glad the TTGL crew isn't involved in this, because no amount of Trigger could offset that premise. Even the main character's design makes it seem like they're trying to make a self insert character. I hope I'm wrong and that it actually ends up being a good anime, but I just can't get excited for it, that premise is so weak and unoriginal. Even Trigger's B-teams usually make more original anime, so to me this seems less like a Trigger anime and more of an A-1 anime. Wasn't the interview with the producer telling exactly the opposite? "A1 is actually letting Trigger handle most of the creative process. Planning, design, concept, content; that is all handled by Trigger. A1 focuses more on making sure the vision gets to the screen. Nishigori is inexperienced with action so he is letting Imaishi and the guys at Trigger handle that. Nishigori was all "if Imaishi doesn't do it we can't do this" and left the action sequences to to Imaishi's imagination. Nishgori wants people to watch the show and realize that nobody other than Imaishi could have done the action scenes. They let Imaishi go wild because they want a real feel of contrast with the human drama of the non-action scenes. They have wild action scenes from episode 1." This whole situation starts to remind me of "don't watch this anime" posts in Kemono Friends' discussion forums. We didn't get a chance to watch the 1st episode yet, but there are already some people saying things far beyond being just pessimistic. Looks like my post was way too uninformed, so that's on me. Even so, I am absolutely disappointed in the premise of this. I wasn't really talking about whether someone should watch the anime, or that it's automatically bad. This is more about expectations. None of what I say (especially since you proved half of it wrong) is concrete. I just really would not expect this unoriginal of a premise from Trigger. |
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| It has (what look like) beta male MC so no high hopes for this. |
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burntphoenix said: Looks like my post was way too uninformed, so that's on me. Even so, I am absolutely disappointed in the premise of this. I wasn't really talking about whether someone should watch the anime, or that it's automatically bad. This is more about expectations. None of what I say (especially since you proved half of it wrong) is concrete. I just really would not expect this unoriginal of a premise from Trigger. The thing is, people aren't that stupid to make something bad with this kind of passion, especially when it involves two different studios and a lot of famous people collaborating with each other. Maybe Nishigori specifically wanted to make it look like something generic (and then expand it in some weird/unconventional ways), so let's hope for the better. I think that it's only here on MAL we have this habit of doomsaying. If you take a look at random posts on the internet (reddit etc), you can see quite an opposite reaction to this anime: https://imgur.com/gallery/SKSuw edit: Speaking of passion... Strelizia model, human-sized. I'd watch this anime solely because of Koyama's mecha design, which reminds me of Top wo Nerae 2 and Eureka Seven so much.  |
autistic_potatoJan 9, 2018 11:05 PM
Aelyn said: burntphoenix said: Looks like my post was way too uninformed, so that's on me. Even so, I am absolutely disappointed in the premise of this. I wasn't really talking about whether someone should watch the anime, or that it's automatically bad. This is more about expectations. None of what I say (especially since you proved half of it wrong) is concrete. I just really would not expect this unoriginal of a premise from Trigger. The thing is, people aren't that stupid to make something bad with this kind of passion, especially when it involves two different studios and a lot of famous people collaborating with each other. Maybe Nishigori specifically wanted to make it look like something generic (and then expand it in some weird/unconventional ways), so let's hope for the better. I think that it's only here on MAL we have this habit of doomsaying. If you take a look at random posts on the internet (reddit etc), you can see quite an opposite reaction to this anime: https://imgur.com/gallery/SKSuw edit: Speaking of passion... Strelizia model, human-sized. I'd watch this anime solely because of Koyama's mecha design, which reminds me of Top wo Nerae 2 and Eureka Seven so much. I was never a fan of people saying anime is dead, and while I'm guilty of basing expectations on prerelease information I never like using it solely as a basis to completely shut the anime out, and it was more about expectations. I probably will give it a try, probably after it's over, but I don't think my expectations will ever go up for this series. I really, just really am disappointed at the premise because reading the synopsis and thinking it was a dime-a-dozen generic anime, and then seeing Trigger is involved actually really got to me. I don't like saying anime is dead, but I do think the standard has gotten lower, so this was insanely unpleasant to me. I'd love nothing but to be proven absolutely wrong about my expectations, and Trigger somehow turning that mediocre premise into something good. If they do that, then I will come back to this topic and eat every single word I said. Though, I admit it was kinda ballsy making this a mecha anime. Since it's Trigger everyone's going to be comparing this series to TTGL |
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Dlwuik said: whatever, TRIGGER WILL SAVE ANIME NONETHELESS! Maybe so but the point of this thread is to get others to not think that Trigger= TTGL and Kill la Kill (which I assume are the subjects of the Trigger saving anime meme). Imaishi and Nakashima were responsible for those anime. This anime is headed by Nishigori who really only directed Idolmaster before this but did keyframing for TTGL. We don't know what to expect to I encourage everyone to go in with an open mind! |
| This is basically a gainax team anime, who cares if its trigger or a1 both staff are old gainax staff that happen to be contractored elsewhere, it will be like ttgl, or any wack gainax anime |
burntphoenix said: Aelyn said: The thing is, people aren't that stupid to make something bad with this kind of passion, especially when it involves two different studios and a lot of famous people collaborating with each other. Maybe Nishigori specifically wanted to make it look like something generic (and then expand it in some weird/unconventional ways), so let's hope for the better. I think that it's only here on MAL we have this habit of doomsaying. If you take a look at random posts on the internet (reddit etc), you can see quite an opposite reaction to this anime: https://imgur.com/gallery/SKSuw edit: Speaking of passion... Strelizia model, human-sized. I'd watch this anime solely because of Koyama's mecha design, which reminds me of Top wo Nerae 2 and Eureka Seven so much. I was never a fan of people saying anime is dead, and while I'm guilty of basing expectations on prerelease information I never like using it solely as a basis to completely shut the anime out, and it was more about expectations. I probably will give it a try, probably after it's over, but I don't think my expectations will ever go up for this series. I really, just really am disappointed at the premise because reading the synopsis and thinking it was a dime-a-dozen generic anime, and then seeing Trigger is involved actually really got to me. I don't like saying anime is dead, but I do think the standard has gotten lower, so this was insanely unpleasant to me. I'd love nothing but to be proven absolutely wrong about my expectations, and Trigger somehow turning that mediocre premise into something good. If they do that, then I will come back to this topic and eat every single word I said. Though, I admit it was kinda ballsy making this a mecha anime. Since it's Trigger everyone's going to be comparing this series to TTGL It's pretty impossible to guess where they're headed with this premise. Also it's not like you can tell much about an anime from it's premise anyway. For instance, what's so original about Kill la Kill's premise? Not to mention there are shit (and meh) anime with good premises. Re: Creators and Nisekoi come to mind. |
moodie said: This is basically a gainax team anime, who cares if its trigger or a1 both staff are old gainax staff that happen to be contractored elsewhere, it will be like ttgl, or any wack gainax anime It's hard to say anything yet as it's Nishigori's first time directing this type of project. And as I've said quite a few times this wont necessarily be another TTGL. The only way we'll know what'll happen is by watching it! |
| This is gonna be awesome, let's enjoy it for what it is :) I'll initially take this as a "prepare your ass for Promare" show, hopefully it becomes much more than that ofc! |
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| I don't like it when after people compare Animes with others. I'm seriously excited for Darling in the FranXX and not because I like Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann. I don't think it will be similar. It just doesn't seem like the same and I feel like this Anime is going to be a little bit more different than other Animes. |
 I will not believe that everything is controlled by fate. ll X ll |
| It's gonna be a lot more similar than LWA or Kiznaiver. Maybe not balls to the wall insane but still awesome mecha battles. |
| I seriously hope it isn't like klk or ttgl. Both of those are kind of average to bad. |
| Some random photos/artwork from the official twitter: |
autistic_potatoJan 13, 2018 1:22 AM
| It's a success - TRIGGER SAVING ANIME It flops - F*CK A1, TRIGGER DID NOTHING WRONG |
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| According to some information spreading right now, the ending credits of the 1st episode are stating that it was (mostly?) produced by A-1. Tomorrow is going to be pretty fun. I can almost see some people turning their heads from "OMG TRIGGER SAVED THE ANIME" to "WAIT, A-1? I GUESS I DON'T LIKE IT". A little reminder, just in case: - It's the director and his creative team who're doing the job that makes the anime take its shape. - A-1 has a lot of talented people, not to mention some cool freelance dudes helping them during the tough times. - Trigger has a priority role of supervising the action scenes, but there should be enough episodes (fully?) produced by them too. - Khara (for the most part?) does 3D CG. Yes, don't expect everything to be hand-drawn, it's practically impossible for this project. I'm not getting into the details (because I'm as incompetent as you are), but at least I suggest you to think before posting complete nonsense later. Remember, it's Trigger x A-1 anime. Not just Trigger or A-1. Those are studios, not some uniform entities. They have different people working on various things, and there are other people responsible for putting the things together. ^ feel free to copy/paste this in Ep. 1 discussion thread anytime; it might come in handy. |
Aelyn said: According to some information spreading right now, the ending credits of the 1st episode are stating that it was (mostly?) produced by A-1. Tomorrow is going to be pretty fun. I can almost see some people turning their heads from "OMG TRIGGER SAVED THE ANIME" to "WAIT, A-1? I GUESS I DON'T LIKE IT". A little reminder, just in case: - It's the director and his creative team who're doing the job that makes the anime take its shape. - A-1 has a lot of talented people, not to mention some cool freelance dudes helping them during the tough times. - Trigger has a priority role of supervising the action scenes, but there should be enough episodes (fully?) produced by them too. - Khara (for the most part?) does 3D CG. Yes, don't expect everything to be hand-drawn, it's practically impossible for this project. I'm not getting into the details (because I'm as incompetent as you are), but at least I suggest you to think before posting complete nonsense later. Remember, it's Trigger x A-1 anime. Not just Trigger or A-1. Those are studios, not some uniform entities. They have different people working on various things, and there are other people responsible for putting the things together. ^ feel free to copy/paste this in Ep. 1 discussion thread anytime; it might come in handy. Pretty much what I made the thread for thx for being here dude! |
code said: I seriously hope it isn't like klk or ttgl. Both of those are kind of average to bad. I disagree, both of those are kind of bad to very bad. |
Hrybami said: code said: I seriously hope it isn't like klk or ttgl. Both of those are kind of average to bad. I disagree, both of those are kind of bad to very bad. You must be joking. |
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Nyron said: frame this post The question is, whether it's going to be interesting to watch or not. Keeping your hopes low is fine. Expecting it to be bad is a straight way to absolutely worthless judgement. That's just how our perception of reality works: you make yourself see what you want to see. The same thing goes for a pointless hype and high expectations. Moreover, it looks like this TV series was originally scheduled to start airing during the Spring season of 2018. What the hell has happened and how did it actually affect the production is still a mystery. |
| I sure af hope it won't be another TTGL given how bad it was. |
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Nyron said: Expecting the worst and being surprised is a perfectly fine strategy I think it will be interesting to watch around 40% of the time but won't have the dynamic, colorful cinematography during the slower dialogue scenes (like KLK, TTGL, Luluco, etc) to be compelling I'd rather compare it to something like Diebuster. Hoping for a spiritual successor of TTGL/KLK is wrong: it is obvious enough that director's vision for this series is noticeably different, not to mention that the person directing it is not the same. And speaking of Diebuster, outside of action scenes it's basically all the similar shit. I'm not sure how any of this is appalling (except, maybe, some vegetation shots from Darli-Fra PV2; the trees there did really look cheap). (a bunch of screenshots under the spoiler tag) I think that we don't have any rights (yet) to judge it at this point. Maybe after 3-5 episodes things would clear up and we'll see the whole picture. |
Dlwuik said: Jack_100HP said: it failed so many times what makes you sure that they'll save it wigh this? because everything trigger makes (besides kiznaiver) is good. https://myanimelist.net/anime/25159/Inou-Battle_wa_Nichijou-kei_no_Naka_de That is so bad.... trigger is just another studio that makes some good things and some piece of trash. |
Mario_Isla said: https://myanimelist.net/anime/25159/Inou-Battle_wa_Nichijou-kei_no_Naka_de That is so bad.... trigger is just another studio that makes some good things and some piece of trash. Nah, much higher success rate than most studios. So its like 80/20. Most studios you'd be lucky to like half of anything they produce. |
Brandon2149 said: Mario_Isla said: https://myanimelist.net/anime/25159/Inou-Battle_wa_Nichijou-kei_no_Naka_de That is so bad.... trigger is just another studio that makes some good things and some piece of trash. Nah, much higher success rate than most studios. So its like 80/20. Most studios you'd be lucky to like half of anything they produce. Only have 4 full long Tv anime Kill la Kill Inou Little Witch Academia Kiznaiver And now this.. Is a little pool to have conclusion for now. |
| I hope it's not like either one of them, because they're both way overrated. I said it. Fight me. Edit: also no fucks given. Queue the triggered fanboys (no pun intended). |
| I'm no Weeaboo I'm Katsura |
MagicMan80 said: I hope it's not like either one of them, because they're both way overrated. I said it. Fight me. Edit: also no fucks given. Queue the triggered fanboys (no pun intended). You have shit taste, Eureka Seven is a poor mans Gurren Lagann. |
Brandon2149 said: MagicMan80 said: I hope it's not like either one of them, because they're both way overrated. I said it. Fight me. Edit: also no fucks given. Queue the triggered fanboys (no pun intended). You have shit taste, Eureka Seven is a poor mans Gurren Lagann. So, considering that you list some of the same series as your favourites as I have, what does that say about your taste hmm? |
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