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Dec 23, 2017 9:49 AM
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In the 1990s we had a lot of Isekai animes with a female MC, but now most of the Isekai animes released recently in this 2010s era featured only male MCs.

I think we need more female MCs in Isekai shows, as we need to know more from the perspective of females and how they adapt to that other world. Besides, as a male myself that cares for female's opinions and views females as equal to males ( because I support gender equality ), I'd like to see things narrated and viewed from the perspective of a female, as that allows us to understand better how females think, so that we as males could be more considerate of them.

Here is a list of Isekai Novels with Female MCs I follow at Narou that I think deserves an Anime adaptation

1. Isekai de [ Kuro no Iyashi Te ] tte Yobarete Imasu
https://myanimelist.net/manga/86043/Isekai_de_Kuro_no_Iyashi_Te_tte_Yobareteimasu?q=Isekai%20de%20Kuro%20no%20Iyashi

This Isekai story features a 22 year old female MC. She's quite smart, and I like this story as it is one of the rare stories where a female gets cheat abilities in magic at another world. The only turn off for some people would be that this has a Reverse Harem-kind of environment, with the MC mostly interacting with handsome Ikemen male characters. However, the difference from most Reverse Harem and Harem series is that this MC has a few female friends that are quite helpful to her, so it's OK.

2. Tensei Shoujo no Rirekisho
https://myanimelist.net/manga/96183/Tensei_Shoujo_no_Rirekisho?q=Tensei%20Shoujo%20

I have this one thing to say about this series : This is the best Isekai series I've ever read ever. Why ? Because the female MC of this series, Ryou, is so cool. She is strong and independent, and doesn't rely too much on males. Her one only fixation is to be loved and cared deeply by family, which is something she didn't experience in her past life. In her past life, she was a high school girl good in both sports and academics, but she died due to an accident and reincarnated in a Fantasy world with all of her past life memories intact.

I like this series because the MC doesn't have an OP cheat-like ability other than her past life knowledge of modern technology, and it's not a Reverse Harem either. It's not a Reverse Harem due to the fact that Ryou would also interact quite a lot with up to 3 female friends other than many other handsome boys from noble families.

Only 1 male character who knows her since childhood and has gone through quite a duel-ish first meeting with her ( an example would be the duel between the MC and their main partner in Rakudai Kishi and Gakusen Toshi ) shows some kind of romantic or strong affection for her so far, so it's definitely not a Reverse Harem.

Here are some reasons why I'd like to see this Novel getting an anime adaptation.

1. Best female MC I've ever read in any Light Novel or Web Novel so far. You can really relate to her as she's not quite interested in romance, and more focused on trying to improve the way of life of the society in their country they live in that Isekai. She's also an independent and strong-willed girl and tries her best to solve things on her own without relying on others. This would score huge points for people who are tired of female characters that easily fall head over heels for male characters in other Isekai series with harem and reverse harem subgenres. I too like this setting, as I really dislike girls in harems and reverse harems that easily gets attracted to male characters for no strong reason.

2. Very interesting single male romantic interest. In this series, the MC would have a wide variety of interactions with myriad types of male characters, from adult males to boys of the same age or 2-3 years older than her.

However, only one male character shows a deep affection for the MC, so many of you can be reassured that this is not a reverse harem show, as the other males of her age or slightly older than her only think of the MC as a close friend, or as an Imouto. Therefore, only one boy of her same age would be showing some strong affection towards the MC, and that boy is one that has been beaten by the MC in a duel in their first meeting. ( Yeah it might be cliche for those who've seen Rakudai Kishi and Gakusen Toshi, but we don't see much of these kind of first meeting duels when the MC is a female, right ? )

I will not reveal his name here to minimize plot point spoilers. I like his character as he really cares for the MC very much and willing to put his life on the line to defend Ryou when fighting monsters together. Ryou also shares that same need to defend him with her life, but she only thinks of him as a very special close childhood friend and sweet underling or younger brother figure than a romantic interest, as she has lots of other pressing matters to think about than romance, such as uncovering the secrets of magic in that Isekai world. There will be a scene where Ryou literally saved him from receiving a direct hit by a monster, and that act of hers resulted in quite serious injuries.

3. The MC will have some very cute Female Friends.

This is the 3rd reason why I'd like to see this series getting an Adaptation. Other than 2 male characters who would interact quite a lot with the MC, there will be 3 other female friends of the MC, who would all be classified as "Bishoujo" in terms of looks, as they're all quite cute and have interesting personalities. One of them would be an Ojousama-kind of character with her way of talking ( In terms of status, all of her classmates are all sons and daughters of noble familes anyways, so when I meant Ojousama-type, I don't mean to point out her family status, but describe her way of speech, like ending sentences with "Desu wa" in a refined tone typical of most Ojousama characters, as not all rich girls or girls of high social standing would be speaking like that in Anime and LNs/WNs. )

So an anime adaptation would be very interesting to watch, as all 3 of those female friends of the MC all have interesting personalities, and would provide most of the eye candy of the show for male viewers. However, even that might not be necessary, as the female MC, Ryou, is already a strong-willed, independent, tough, intelligent, and attractive girl that would be highly likeable to watch, compared to most other weak and boring female MCs of most Reverse Harem animes.

4. The MC is quite shrewd and won't hesitate to tell lies for the greater good

Unlike most other female MCs who are naive and trying to act too much like a goody two shoes girl, this MC is very shrewd and will not hesitate to lie and beat around the bush in order to avoid informing certain troublesome peoples certain infomation that might put at risk the lives and freedom of the friends that she cares about. This would score major points for those tired of female MCs in some animes that are weak, naive, brain-dead, and too reliant on others. Thanks to her past life memories, the MC of this series is a much higher-spec girl than the MC of Kuro no Iyashi Te, despite Ryou being only 13 years old in her current life.

5. A very hateful would-be antagonist

This series also has a very hateful would-be antagonist, which is an element missing from most other Isekai shows. To prevent spoilers, I'll just provide this hint : He is someone who thinks of non-magicians as lower beings and livestock, and his twisted and disgusting way of thinking needs to be changed as soon as possible before very bad things happen in the future. The MC and her friends really needs to do something about this would-be antagonist, as the future of human rights for non-magicians might be at stake if he is allowed to continue on with his way of thinking.


So, that's it. We need to see more Isekai shows with female MCs, and those 2 series are what I'd most like to see get an Adaptation.
CoolitzHubertXVIDec 23, 2017 10:08 AM
I am someone that would like to watch a Harem Anime with 2 male leads that each gets their own harem company of girls from the main cast. For example, 1st male lead gets a company of 4 girls and 2nd male lead gets 2-3 girls etc.
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Dec 23, 2017 9:54 AM
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nah but I wouldn't mind another season of Slayers
need some of that Lina goodness
Dec 23, 2017 9:58 AM
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I don't mind
But if there is a reverse harem i'll drop immediately
Dec 23, 2017 10:00 AM
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@Manaban WhOa A thread that isn't about 2 male leads in a harem anime? It's the second coming

OT: I don't mind, it all really need is to be good...

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hol up. you telling me Hubert made a post that doesn't have him inserting his idea of a harem anime with 2 male leads. WTF?

oh wait, it's his signature now :/

OT: i'd like to see less isekai in general.
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Dec 23, 2017 10:05 AM
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well at least it isn't two male leads, it doesn't even matter so long as it's not that

Dec 23, 2017 10:09 AM
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I think you should really stop creating harem threads.

Anime has a lot of things to offer, you must be living an awful life, OP.


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Dec 23, 2017 10:12 AM
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I think you should really stop creating harem threads.

Anime has a lot of things to offer, you must be living an awful life, OP.
Nah, the dude just wants a good orgy.

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I'd rather not see more uninspired Isekai stuff. But I don't see how having a female MC would make it better.
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Yeah, I would like that. Especially since Isekai started as a genre in the 90's-early 2000's that had a female protagonist. Like: InuYasha, The Vision of Escaflowne, The Twelve Kingdoms, Fushigi Yuugi, Ayashi no Ceres, Harukanaru etc.
I would especially like a continuation to The Twelve Kingdoms, no romance or harem stuff, a great female lead with a lot of emotional and psychological development, sword fights, fantastical creatures and setting, political intrigue, themes like war, the responsibility of being a leader, the decline of social status etc.
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-Lofn- said:
S-quare22 said:
I think you should really stop creating harem threads.

Anime has a lot of things to offer, you must be living an awful life, OP.
Nah, the dude just wants a good orgy.


Seems like the good orgies are getting out of hand.


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I'd rather not see more uninspired Isekai stuff. But I don't see how having a female MC would make it better.


This may be the best reply I've seen in a while.


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For comedic relief moments, "Tensei Shoujo no Rirekisho" also has one funny and somewhat crazy over-the-top adult male character named "Tagsack". I won't reveal much, but he's one of the most funniest cult-leaders in any Light Novels I've ever read so far.

Can't wait to see Tagsack in his crazy antics in Anime.
I am someone that would like to watch a Harem Anime with 2 male leads that each gets their own harem company of girls from the main cast. For example, 1st male lead gets a company of 4 girls and 2nd male lead gets 2-3 girls etc.
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Kind of went on an unnecessary tangent there...
Hell yeah, I want more Isekai anime with female protagonists. But at the same time, I'm skeptical, because all female protagonists I've seen in anime, are annoyingly timid and weak.
Dec 23, 2017 11:03 AM
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Why do you keep making these threads op?
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As long as it doesnt lead to a reverse harem i would be fine with it. Just find reverse harem series tedious and identical. But a good isekai with a female lead? Yeah i would digg that!
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No i would really don't want to see more isekai shows.
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The female MC of Tensei Shoujo no Rirekisho is a strong-willed girl with boyish-like characteristics such as courageous, self-reliant and determined, without actually dressing or looking like a Tomboy. To make a good comparison, she's kinda like Jessica from Dragon Quest VIII. Jessica in that RPG is quite brave, and does not act like a weak and passive girl typical in most female MCs of Shoujo mangas. One more similarity she shares in common with Jessica, is that she too will become a daughter, albeit adopted, of a rich noble family.

So, I judge the LN, Tensei Shoujo no Rirekisho, as the best LN that would appeal to both male and female readers, as it does not have either reverse harem or harem elements in it, but a pure gripping high fantasy story, as well as only 1 male romantic interest for the MC. It also has a cast of many interesting side characters, such as the over-the-top crazy but funny cult-leader, Tagsack, and many other characters with unique personalities. The MC would even have up to 3 cute female friends including that one Ojousama character, and up to 3 male friends, including that 1 close childhood male friend who views her as his romantic interest.

There will also be quite a lot of adults who are magicians in it, so it feels like a genuine fantasy world instead of a Chuunibyou setting where only teens are shown to have magic powers. One of those adults, would be the younger sister of the school's vice principal, who's a magician quite skilled in Fire Magic. During the school Arc, it really seemed for me that I was reading a female MC version of Harry Potter, only much more interesting.

Let's hope we'll get to see an Anime version of Tensei Shoujo no Rirekisho.
CoolitzHubertXVIDec 23, 2017 12:44 PM
I am someone that would like to watch a Harem Anime with 2 male leads that each gets their own harem company of girls from the main cast. For example, 1st male lead gets a company of 4 girls and 2nd male lead gets 2-3 girls etc.
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Kind of went on an unnecessary tangent there...
Hell yeah, I want more Isekai anime with female protagonists. But at the same time, I'm skeptical, because all female protagonists I've seen in anime, are annoyingly timid and weak.


ALL? ALL? Have you heard of Revy from Black Lagoon? Or Balsa from Seirei no Moribito? Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell? Maka Albarn from Soul Eater? Lina Inverse from Slayers? Ryuuko from Kill la Kill? Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena? Shiki Ryougi from Kara no Kyoukai? Youko from The Twelve Kingdoms? Clare from Claymore? Éclair from Kiddy Grade? Canaan from Canaan? Kino from Kino's Journey? Rosette from Chrno Crusade? Oscar from The Rose of Versailles? Michiko from Michiko to Hatchin? Misaka from A Certain Scientific Railgun? Nausicaä from Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind? Koko Hekmatyar from Jormungand? etc etc

It's obvious you haven't seen enough anime kiddo, so watch more of it before you talk out of your ass. The names I listed are a good start.
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NihilisticLoner said:
Kind of went on an unnecessary tangent there...
Hell yeah, I want more Isekai anime with female protagonists. But at the same time, I'm skeptical, because all female protagonists I've seen in anime, are annoyingly timid and weak.


ALL? ALL? Have you heard of Revy from Black Lagoon? Or Balsa from Seirei no Moribito? Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell? Maka Albarn from Soul Eater? Lina Inverse from Slayers? Ryuuko from Kill la Kill? Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena? Shiki Ryougi from Kara no Kyoukai? Youko from The Twelve Kingdoms? Clare from Claymore? Éclair from Kiddy Grade? Canaan from Canaan? Kino from Kino's Journey? Rosette from Chrno Crusade? Oscar from The Rose of Versailles? Michiko from Michiko to Hatchin? Misaka from A Certain Scientific Railgun? Nausicaä from Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind? Koko Hekmatyar from Jormungand? etc etc

It's obvious you haven't seen enough anime kiddo, so watch more of it before you talk out of your ass. The names I listed are a good start.


Those are all anime that are geared towards a male audience; naturally the female protagonists will be competent.
Also, nearly all those female leads are boring, either being edgelords or too stoic (I haven't seen ALL of the anime you've listed).

From my memory, every anime I have ever seen geared towards a female audience, stars a bland, naieve, stupid, incompetent, female protagonist, with even blander designs.

I feel hopeful about stories starring female protagonists...
When it's NOT in anime. I can name so many male characters at the top of my head that I could probably put in my favorites list, male characters that hit every spot of being cool, badass, fun, and charming, but I don't have any female main characters.

That's why I'm so skeptical about more isekai anime coming out with female protagonists: because the authors are horny shut-in males like me who will probably never write a female protagonist as interesting as, say, Guts, or hell, even Thorfinn.

You can check my completed list for proof of how many anime I've completed...
Though it's nothing compared to a lot of others' lists.
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If it's anything like Kanata Kara then no thanks. I'd rather see a heroine deal with her own world's problems.
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NihilisticLoner said:

Those are all anime that are geared towards a male audience; naturally the female protagonists will be competent.
Also, nearly all those female leads are boring, either being edgelords or too stoic (I haven't seen ALL of the anime you've listed).

You contradict yourself lol. You yourself said you haven't seen all the anime series I've listed, so talk after that.
Also geared towards a male audience? Other nonsense, while some of them are, anime series like Kill la Kill, Soul Eater, Kara no Kyoukai, Claymore, Kino's Journey are popular both with men and women. Michiko to Hatchin is targeted towards a mature female audience, the anime director is a female herself. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is popular with both genders because it’s a movie for a general audience, it’s a Ghibli movie for god’s sake.
Being geared towards and being popular with a certain demographic are two different things.
For example the cartoon Young Justice was geared towards teenage boys but more girls ended up watching it.
Btw, some of the anime I listed are targeted towards a female audience: Revolutionary Girl Utena and The Rose of Versailles have in their genre tags Shoujo so joke's on you.
Also, both Seirei no Moribito and The Twelve Kingdoms are adapted from books written by female writers that wrote for a general audience, not for a specific gender. Again, if you don't know something, keep it to yourself.
I really don’t understand where this „targeted towards a male audience” came from. You said:
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I'm skeptical, because all female protagonists I've seen in anime, are annoyingly timid and weak.

You didn’t say „all female protagonists from anime targeted towards a female audience” you said „all female protagonists”. ALL. So don’t try to twist it around.

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From my memory, every anime I have ever seen geared towards a female audience, stars a bland, naieve, stupid, incompetent, female protagonist, with even blander designs.


Nah, it’s okay fam, I’ve got you. There are plenty of shows geared towards a female audience with cool, productive, interesting female characters with a distinct personality.
I can name off the top of my head: Haruhi from Ouran Highschool Host Club, trust me, it’s good.
Chihaya from Chihayafuru (the anime is great, you gotta watch it if you haven’t already). Chihaya is passionate, determined, stubborn, charismatic, a good leader, she’s inspirational and optimistic, she’s great. Kumiko from Gokusen, Kyouko from Skip Beat, Risa from Lovely Complex, Shizuku from Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, Sunako from Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge, Yona from Akatsuki no Yona, Sawako from Kimi ni Todoke, Chise from The Ancient Magus' Bride, Shirayuki from Akagami no Shirayukihime, Kajika from Hanasakeru Seishonen, Yukino from His and Her Circumstances, Nodame from Nodame Cantabile (yep, she can be kinda stupid sometimes but she’s also a music genius and it’s part of her charm, not a weakness, she’s brimming with personality, so that makes up for it), Nana Osaki from Nana, Tsukimi from Kuragehime (she’s a loveable nerd).

And of course the aforementioned Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena and Oscar from The Rose of Versailles.
There’s also Tooru Honda, I have a soft spot for her, she doesn’t get to shine in the anime as much as she does in the manga, because they've adapted only the first part of the manga.
If you read the manga, you’ll understand why I have a soft spot for Tooru. She went through tragedy but still keeps a cheerful and positive attitude. But you’ll later see it’s gets painful for her to always seem cheerful.
Hope it’s enough ^^ You have a lot to watch from what senpai recommended you.

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I feel hopeful about stories starring female protagonists...
When it's NOT in anime. I can name so many male characters at the top of my head that I could probably put in my favorites list, male characters that hit every spot of being cool, badass, fun, and charming, but I don't have any female main characters.

That's why I'm so skeptical about more isekai anime coming out with female protagonists: because the authors are horny shut-in males like me who will probably never write a female protagonist as interesting as, say, Guts, or hell, even Thorfinn.

If we have female writers like Uehashi Nahoko (Seirei no Moribito) and Ono Fuyumi (The Twelve Kingdoms) then you can expect it's going to be high quality characterization for all characters, especially the female protagonists and no horny shut-in nonsense.
Yeah, Thorfinn is one of my favorite characters as well.

A very interesting female character on par with them (Guts and Thorfinn) is Balalaika from Black Lagoon, she's great <3 Unfortunately, she isn't the protagonist of the series.
Akemi Homura from Madoka Magica is another great female character and even if she’s not the protagonist in the anime, she’s the protagonist in the movie Rebellion.

But Youko from 12 kingdoms has some of the best character development for female characters in all of anime and she's the protagonist. The anime is also an isekai, you gotta watch it. You'll understand why I want a continuation of it. She starts off weak but at the end of the anime she's a total badass. Shame they didn't adapt more books >.<
Balsa from Seirei no Moribito is also very interesting, except she’s already formed as a person at the start of the anime/novel series being in her 20’s-30’s. In contrast with Youko who is a teenager at the start and has a more complex character arc in which she forms her character. It’s not like Balsa doesn’t have a character arc as well, it has to do with her bonding with the second main character which she has to protect (you’ll know what I mean if you watch it).

Another female protagonist that isn’t sexualized for a shut-in like you lol, is Maka Albarn from Soul Eater who is the most complex character in the entire series in my opinion. She has the most inner conflicts and obstacles to overcome and is the most fleashed-out and realistic of the bunch.

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You can check my completed list for proof of how many anime I've completed...
Though it's nothing compared to a lot of others' lists.


Yeah, I’ve checked it, you’ve watched a lot of anime, but it’s still less than me. So listen to senpai for the anime with great female characters/protagonists.
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So long as there's no harem. Harem in general are trash.
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This has been one of the most off-topic tangent, and condescending posts I've read in a while. Just when I was in a good mood. For some reason, I've had better interactions in Youtube comments, and those guys don't get surveyed for their behavior like on MAL.
Oh well, I'll give you credit for creativity for how you mocked me.

"You didn’t say „all female protagonists from anime targeted towards a female audience” you said „all female protagonists”. ALL. So don’t try to twist it around."
That was completely my fault. At the time I was writing the post, I had momentarily forgotten about those other anime with interesting female protagonists.

Giving a female character development doesn't automatically make them interesting, in my eyes. Anyone can do that crap. I can do it, you can do it, hell, any shitty writer could do it. What matters to me the most, is whether that development itself is interesting, and their personalities.

For example, I couldn't care less for Yoko's, "Development" I remember watching like 25 episodes, I think, from 12 Kingdoms years ago. The, "Whiny MC becomes cooler and calmer" phase I've seen to death and I am sick of.
I barely care about Maka either, because her personality is just too serious. Compare her to someone like, say, Josuke Joestar, a protagonist whose personality is a combination of multiple personality traits.

Thorfinn's development is fascinating, on the other hand, and something I could've NEVER predicted. He goes from a generic emo edgelord (but a justified one, at least, fuck Sasuke) to:

I haven't seen any female protagonist, go through a development phase THAT interesting.
While Joseph Joestar is a pretty flat character in Part 2 of Jojo, his personality is so goddamn entertaining, that I couldn't care less if he changes as a whole or not.

The point I'm trying to make, is that I've never a female protagonist with a personality and character progression that I actually find interesting, and not standard.
Now think about it for a minute: light novel isekai adaptations have a reputation for sucking, right? If there's an isekai light novel adaptation starring a female protagonist, but written by a male author (which is really likely), the chances of that character being boring or, "Yeah, she's fine, I guess" is extremely high.
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"Isekai" has changed, and the male audience is kinda dominating anime and LNs. Ripperoni pepperoni, men suck ass at being an audience.
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Now think about it for a minute: light novel isekai adaptations have a reputation for sucking, right? If there's an isekai light novel adaptation starring a female protagonist, but written by a male author (which is really likely), the chances of that character being boring or, "Yeah, she's fine, I guess" is extremely high.


Yeah, I've been fearing that as well. That's why I said my ideal option would be a rebooted anime or a continuation of 12 kingdoms/Juuni Kokuki. Maybe there would have been a rare chance to get an actual good isekai light novel adaptation with a female protagonist if the writer were competent enough.
Getting a non-light novel writer would have been the ideal situation.

Sorry for putting you in a bad mood, it wasn't my intention. You don't often find someone on youtube comments that apologies.
You yourself admitted your mistake for generalising ALL female protagonists, so you deserved it.
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I mean at least this year the first example that comes to mind is Re:Creators which a primary focus was on 2 female characters who came from separate worlds.
As for would I want more of it I don't care, because the gender of the main character (especially since most shows have multiple main characters) has no bearing on how much I'll enjoy a show even remotely.
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HotaruKara said:
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Now think about it for a minute: light novel isekai adaptations have a reputation for sucking, right? If there's an isekai light novel adaptation starring a female protagonist, but written by a male author (which is really likely), the chances of that character being boring or, "Yeah, she's fine, I guess" is extremely high.


Yeah, I've been fearing that as well. That's why I said my ideal option would be a rebooted anime or a continuation of 12 kingdoms/Juuni Kokuki. Maybe there would have been a rare chance to get an actual good isekai light novel adaptation with a female protagonist if the writer were competent enough.
Getting a non-light novel writer would have been the ideal situation.

Sorry for putting you in a bad mood, it wasn't my intention. You don't often find someone on youtube comments that apologies.
You yourself admitted your mistake for generalising ALL female protagonists, so you deserved it.


I don't understand your viewpoint there. Wouldn't a new adaptation be more interesting than a reboot? I haven't finished 12 Kingdoms, but people who've watched it seem to love it.
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HotaruKara said:


Yeah, I've been fearing that as well. That's why I said my ideal option would be a rebooted anime or a continuation of 12 kingdoms/Juuni Kokuki. Maybe there would have been a rare chance to get an actual good isekai light novel adaptation with a female protagonist if the writer were competent enough.
Getting a non-light novel writer would have been the ideal situation.

Sorry for putting you in a bad mood, it wasn't my intention. You don't often find someone on youtube comments that apologies.
You yourself admitted your mistake for generalising ALL female protagonists, so you deserved it.


I don't understand your viewpoint there. Wouldn't a new adaptation be more interesting than a reboot? I haven't finished 12 Kingdoms, but people who've watched it seem to love it.


The reboot for 12 Kingdoms (but in the format of Hunter x Hunter and FMA Brotherhood that also add source material that has been written since the anime ended) would be better than something that has a high chance to be mediocre like a new light novel adaptation.

It's up to you if you want to finish it or not. For me it started getting really interesting on episode 7, when Youko confronted the spirit of her sword, Aozaru.
Dec 23, 2017 4:48 PM

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If that is what it takes to get isekais away from the male vessel MC, then so be it.
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The gender of the protagonist doesn't matter, most of the time a isekai is going to be shit regardless.

- The world operates like a video game but is not a video game.
- Abilities and improving powers operates like tabletop rpgs or jrpg game logic.
- Mc is given a cheat of op powers or is way smarter than everyone else(common sense is overpowered).
- Becomes a harem at some point and bogs down everything.
- lack of concrete goals other interesting themes.
- 1 dimensional antagonists or the stupid kind (He is a good guy that acts evil because he has reasons that make no sense)
- World building is illogical, inconsistent or never explained. An example is in 12 kingdoms is the sky gods are barely explored at all in the anime. the people just act like they don't exist until its convenient for the plot. Nobody in the anime questions the unjust world ruled by sky gods. They just conform to the feudal system without question. They are smart enough to ask every other question under the sun but never the elephant in the room that the unjust systems they complain about could only exist because of the sky gods.
Dec 23, 2017 5:33 PM
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Sure
I don't care much about the gender of the MC since I tend to like side/supporting characters more.
Although it could be a perfect breeding ground for more shows with darker undertones and I just happen to know someone who recently got into that kind of stuff.

Dec 23, 2017 6:41 PM

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Sure.
As long as the story and the characters are amazing and worth watching.
Dec 23, 2017 7:18 PM

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No, I never want to see another isekai period.
Dec 23, 2017 7:21 PM

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no. Adding women in things do not make them interesting lol.
Dec 23, 2017 7:23 PM

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no. Adding women in things do not make them interesting lol.
It does, makes the sexually frustrated fans eager. Definitely not talking about me

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PoeticJustice said:
no. Adding women in things do not make them interesting lol.
It does, makes the sexually frustrated fans eager. Definitely not talking about me


we need an all female kaiji



i would pay big bucks
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we need an all female kaiji



i would pay big bucks
Oh, we got that. We got that indeed. Only difference is that it's trash.



I guess you're right that adding female doesn't make it interesting.

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as long as it's a yuri harem i'm in.
though i wish it's not generic as isekai smarphone was.
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Why specifically an isekai anime? I don't get why would someone specifically want an anime to be an isekai

Isekai is just a premise!
Most of the time has little to no bearing to how an anime actually is.
What it entails is likely just a short introduction where the main character is transported to another world and an excuse to dump exposition on the main character (and the viewer) because he is a clueless person from our world.
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I would like to see all isekai manuscripts burnt to a crisp as my Christmas gift this year.
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Why specifically an isekai anime? I don't get why would someone specifically want an anime to be an isekai

Isekai is just a premise!
Most of the time has little to no bearing to how an anime actually is.
What it entails is likely just a short introduction where the main character is transported to another world and an excuse to dump exposition on the main character (and the viewer) because he is a clueless person from our world.
I don't get what conflict your post is trying to highlight. It's just a premise, so people can't specifically like a premise?

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I would like to see all isekai manuscripts burnt to a crisp as my Christmas gift this year.
Would be nice if it didn't feel like there were an explosion in these sorts of shows, but that's a bit extreme, eh?
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Dec 24, 2017 7:37 AM

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No. Female protagonists are very hit or miss with me with it usually being a miss, and I just hate Isekai in general.
Dec 24, 2017 7:40 AM

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Isekai is a shit either way without any actual effort puts into it especially most of isekai writers are sucks terrible on the writings.

So probably now is not a best time to discuss about isekai shit especially when the story always been about reincarnated, overpowered,mmorpg.

Female or male i don't give a fk as long it is entertaining but the problem it wasn't because isekai formula literally the same.
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If it's something like Juuni Kokuki or Fushigi Yuugi then I'd definitely love to have more but if it's like the more recent ones like Sengoku Night Blood with a characterless boring female MC who just kept on getting kidnapped by all of her potential love interests one-by-one then no thanks.

But I don't like the whole thing about suddenly gaining powers and even conveniently being able to control and use them at will despite not having any experience. MCs either slowly discovering and learning about them or maybe having sudden outbursts in critical situations without being able to control them is more interesting.
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If I remember correctly this year se got only one isekai with a female MC and it was youjo senki. If a female leader fan make other iskeaki ad good ad YS I shurely Luke to sede more Luke these
Dec 24, 2017 8:57 AM

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I only watched the first two ep but i'm pretty sure this counts


https://myanimelist.net/anime/35251/Sengoku_Night_Blood
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I don't think it would hurt the sub-genre, at least no more than titles like Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni, but also doesn't personally appeal to me and don't think it would be as popular amongst the male fandom, as evidence presented thus far seems to suggest. Would be nice to get some representation for female anime fans though. Especially given the roots of the Isekai sub-genre, as OP mentioned.
(Even Youjo Senki was a dude who got reincarnated lol... Goddamn men, stealing all the women's jobs, amirite?)

Far more important is the context for which Isekai takes place. It's not hard to think of imaginative concepts for another world which you are literally inventing, but so many light novelists are amateurs who just want to play out their personal power fantasy. Which is fine and all, but we have a dime a dozen of them.
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Only featured male mc?

What is Youjo senki (2017) if not an isekai with female MC? Also if you're going to give examples, give good ones which have a LN version, are popular, are indeed different, and have a real chance of getting an anime, like Honzuki no gekokujou.
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Zefyris said:

What is Youjo senki (2017) if not an isekai with female MC?


I mean... The main character is literally a man in a girl's body. Just to make it so that the male fandom still gets their self-insert. That's fairly damning of the sub-genre as a whole.
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