traed said: Bobby2Hands said: There are 6 possible chromosome combinations in humans. XX XY XO XXY XXX XYY So I guess there are six genders right? I wonder why YY doesn't happen. I assume that chromosome is to unstable without X. Never heard of XO before. Because women don't carry Y. Only men do. Until two men make babies, it wont happen. But we are getting close. XD |
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Rotton-Girl said: traed said: I wonder why YY doesn't happen. I assume that chromosome is to unstable without X. Never heard of XO before. Because women don't carry Y. Only men do. Until two men make babies, it wont happen. But we are getting close. XD Male meiosis can fk up and end up with 2 Y chromosomes. |
MortalMelancholySep 30, 2017 4:11 PM
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| To put into perspective: I know 20 gay/lesbian people IRL. Almost all my friends are. lol. I know 1 Aromantic person. One Asexual person. 5 Bisexual/Pansexual people I know 6 trans people. <--- Strangely all my trans friends were childhood friends. hahahaha (as well as my Aromantic friend- who is only attracted to cartoons/anime these days) And only met 2 people who get mistaken for the wrong gender consistently despite not being trans. ONE is Gender-Fluid non-binary. The other is a lesbian who just looks like a boy and honestly she doesn't care about being mistaken and thinks it is hilarious. and I SEEK THESE PEOPLE OUT. I SEEK THEM. (My husband says I am more of a fruit fly than a fag hag because people seem to come to me regardless if I am looking lol) They aren't that damn common folks. Searching for bisexual/pansexual male is hard enough!!!! Add weird genderbender shit on top of your demands and you are just asking for like... NEVER GETTING ANY LOVE IN RETURN!!! lol I mean... as much as I have had randos "tell me" they are gender fluid (3 people other than my husband, all under 18, randomly at con, within 30 minutes of meeting them), I tend to seek behaviors rather than telling me a thing. There is a certain psychology they have. A manner of being. And yeah that makes me fucking judgmental and an asshole but without being nutters about the details of their gender presentation: I will just assume they are saying it for political reasons and I will do my best to respect it but it is literally not the same as my husband who lives or dies on his legs being presentable. lol. These people are slightly vain but in quirky ways. And in ways that are VERY unfashionable. Beat of their own drummer marching head first into a mob who might kill them or give them money for being weird. Their is a charisma about it. Makes em sparkle. And as much as I have seen some people randomly I thought might be (like people I kept saying their name over and over and over not knowing what gender they were- jesus christ Ryan, who wore sparkly red dresses I don't even know what he wanted me to call him to this day!- and no, I don't know what the plumbing is on that person they literally very confusing and Ryan is used as a girls name up here sometimes!) If you find yourself thinking they are a real rebel against gender norms or whatever and they just look fucking weird and you can't shake everything from behavior being so flippy floppy you so confused!!! :D EXCITE. Real diamonds. The only way it is a REAL one though is if they are not intentionally doing it. Just walk around being themselves. Normal and such. You just notice because you notice. I donno... not really pro-political dismantling of gender itself really. The sexes are different but if we are talking about presentation and how we want to be spoken to and respect: yeah this is good to establish communication. |
Energetic-NovaSep 30, 2017 3:20 PM
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| I'd refer to them as "they/them", since a lot of non-binary people are okay with that. Me addressing them as "they" doesn't prove to be any sort of detriment to my daily life, it doesn't harm me like it apparently does some people in this thread. Honestly, adhering to their preferred pronouns might be difficult for some people for whatever reason, but it's just a sign of respect. It also dismisses any altercations concerning their preferred pronouns, so you don't really have to deal with anything stupid if you just called them "they" in the first place. |
MortalMelancholy said: Rotton-Girl said: Because women don't carry Y. Only men do. Until two men make babies, it wont happen. But we are getting close. XD Male meiosis could fk up and end up with 2 Y chromosomes. The future is going to be very weird. |
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Exhalant said: I'd refer to them as "they/them", since a lot of non-binary people are okay with that. Me addressing them as "they" doesn't prove to be any sort of detriment to my daily life, it doesn't harm me like it apparently does some people in this thread. Honestly, adhering to their preferred pronouns might be difficult for some people for whatever reason, but it's just a sign of respect. It also dismisses any altercations concerning their preferred pronouns, so you don't really have to deal with anything stupid if you just called them "they" in the first place. I think I have a bigger issue using something gender neutral than even switching off between two pronouns depending on presentation. I am very good at switching depending on presentation. I can even alternate even in the same conversation with the same outfit... They/them just doesn't sound right for me... Almost rather try saying Xir/Xim whatever. lol. |
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MortalMelancholy said: traed said: I wonder why YY doesn't happen. I assume that chromosome is to unstable without X. Never heard of XO before. Humans don't work without an X chromosome. XO is actually not an uncommon monosomy. I looked it up and apparently it's because humans have Lygaean reproduction as opposed to the Protenor reproduction. Oh right XO is Turner syndrome, I've heard of that. Had to look it up what people with it look like though. I didn't realize it was a different chromosome involved |
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traed said: Bobby2Hands said: There are 6 possible chromosome combinations in humans. XX XY XO XXY XXX XYY So I guess there are six genders right? I wonder why YY doesn't happen. I assume that chromosome is to unstable without X. Never heard of XO before. Someone failed the biology class I guess. OT: Whatever he/she resembles to me. |
sasalx said: Someone failed the biology class I guess. How could I fail a class that wasn't even available? They don't teach this stuff in school everywhere. |
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Rotton-Girl said: If "they/them" is what the other party wants to be addressed by, I don't have a problem going with it. Exhalant said: I'd refer to them as "they/them", since a lot of non-binary people are okay with that. Me addressing them as "they" doesn't prove to be any sort of detriment to my daily life, it doesn't harm me like it apparently does some people in this thread. Honestly, adhering to their preferred pronouns might be difficult for some people for whatever reason, but it's just a sign of respect. It also dismisses any altercations concerning their preferred pronouns, so you don't really have to deal with anything stupid if you just called them "they" in the first place. I think I have a bigger issue using something gender neutral than even switching off between two pronouns depending on presentation. I am very good at switching depending on presentation. I can even alternate even in the same conversation with the same outfit... They/them just doesn't sound right for me... Almost rather try saying Xir/Xim whatever. lol. Xir/Xim on the other hand, I've never heard of. |
traed said: sasalx said: Someone failed the biology class I guess. How could I fail a class that wasn't even available? They don't teach this stuff in school everywhere. Hmmm... I thought that is a must unit for the biology class. My bad then. Well basicly this: Actually you can guess lots of possibility about a child. Blood type, colour of hair or eye or skin, genetic diseases etc. |
sasalxSep 30, 2017 4:09 PM
spuukiebuugi said: I believe you learn about XX, XY, and the rare intersexuality related chromosomal combination (XXY, XYX?? something akin to that). At least so far as high school and middle school biology goes. More fixation is put unto things like traits and punnet squares as biological foundations as well as number of chromosomes, rather than chromosomal combinations. Can't say I remember there being six; maybe like three. Intersexuality is also more of an accident than anything. Then again, it's been an eternity since high school biology for me. All the possibilities are: But those abnormalities are quite rare. |
Bobby2Hands said: chicoplaya said: Retard. There are only 2 genders: Male (XY) and female (XX). The rest are mental problems. No matter what your little brain tells you. You won't switch chromosomes just because you believe it. There are 6 possible chromosome combinations in humans. XX XY XO XXY XXX XYY So I guess there are six genders right? Oh right, there are actually around 14 documented chromosomal combinations.  |
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| Obviously you address them according to the gender they identify as lol. In cases where you're not sure you just use "You". Basic grammar teaches you that people are not inanimate objects and shouldn't be addressed as thing/it...... |
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sasalx said: traed said: How could I fail a class that wasn't even available? They don't teach this stuff in school everywhere. Hmmm... I thought that is a must unit for the biology class. My bad then. Well basicly this: Actually you can guess lots of possibility about a child. Blood type, colour of hair or eye or skin, genetic diseases etc. They covered only certain aspects of genes in biology class and for some reason chromosomes wasn't one of them they went into detail over and that was high school. What I said before wasnt entirely wrong though. The Y chromosome isn't as strong as the X chromosome I've heard. spuukiebuugi said: I believe you learn about XX, XY, and the rare intersexuality related chromosomal combination (XXY, XYX?? something akin to that). At least so far as high school and middle school biology goes. More fixation is put unto things like traits and punnet squares as biological foundations as well as number of chromosomes, rather than chromosomal combinations. Can't say I remember there being six; maybe like three. Intersexuality is also more of an accident than anything. Then again, it's been an eternity since high school biology for me. The US doesn't have standardised education. I don't recall anything about punnet squares either. |
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| @traed Being a strong gene is a thing but not in gender. Since both male and female has X it affect the possibility. An example for strong (B) and weak (b) gene. This is a basic eye chart for brown and blue eye genes. They neglected the other colours for simplicity. |
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sasalx said: @traed Being a strong gene is a thing but not in gender. Since both male and female has X is affect the possibility. An example for strong (B) and weak (b] gene. This is a basic eye chart for brown and blue eye genes. They neglected the other colours for simplicity. Punnet squares aren't very hard to figure out. You generally have two people with two of the same or different eye colors. They're not particularly effective for more than two specimens at a time but they work for simple "dominant v. recessive" comparisons. |
| In what context would you ever use "he" or "she" when talking to someone directly? That's talking in third person, isn't it? There would have to be a third person there (Person C), and then you could use "he" or "she" when referring to the non-binary person (Person B). ..Anyway, to answer your question: I don't know. |
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sasalx said: @traed Being a strong gene is a thing but not in gender. Since both male and female has X it affect the possibility. An example for strong (B) and weak (b) gene. This is a basic eye chart for brown and blue eye genes. They neglected the other colours for simplicity. When I said strong I didn't mean dominance. I meant how it could be damages easier. I forgot why that is though. spuukiebuugi said: Punnet squares aren't very hard to figure out. You generally have two people with two of the same or different eye colors. They're not particularly effective for more than two specimens at a time but they work for simple "dominant v. recessive" comparisons. Oh maybe I did have that taught bit very briefly. |
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| There are two genders. If they won't identify in either category I wouldn't address them, talk to them or whatever. |
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| Use the universal rule that the feminists hate so much: Male until proven wrong |
| Well, I live in Canada so I have to call them by their preferred pronouns or I'll get arrested :) Not that I would call them something they didn't like if there was no law here. I prefer not to get into a fight with someone I don't know. Usually they/them. |
| "Hey there, toothpick." or just they |
| Most of them actually belong to "coming out of high school/college/university phase" with feeling of entitlement around them and tumblr is their safe haven.(There are exceptions ofc) The teenage rebellious phase can be very tricky and if not dealt with caution and care can harm an individual more than anything. Do you actually think people in military or in any emergency units gives a shit about such individual's self-made existential crisis? They are nothing more than an extra body count to further progress their respective objectives. If such people do get offended so easily they might as well label themselves as "special snowflakes" because frankly most people have bigger fishes to catch and all that jazz. Hiding behind the anonymity of social media within the comforts of well crafted rooms with all the luxuries,an idle brain with too much time can find a lot of ways to waste time. |
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Mayuka said: Well, I live in Canada so I have to call them by their preferred pronouns or I'll get arrested :) Not that I would call them something they didn't like if there was no law here. I prefer not to get into a fight with someone I don't know. Usually they/them. Can people actually get arrested by not adhering to people's made up pronouns? |
| call them the gender they were born with, they can shove their pronouns and shit back up their own asses |
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| These "non-binary" people have mental issues like transgender people/gender dysphoria - they need medical help. By calling them by what they ask us to call them will not do any good. Quite the opposite, it will only make them believe they're in the right and they will not seek help |
| I really don't care about what someone's make-belief version of themselves is. If he's a male, then he's a male. If she's a woman, then she's a woman. You can ''identify'' as whatever you want, it doesn't mean others should go along with you in your false belief of what you are. |
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| If I know what gender you like calling yourself, I'll call you what you'd like out of respect. But if I don't know you, I'm gonna call you whatever the fuck you look like the most. Simple. |
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SigmaticDoc said: I really don't care about what someone's make-belief version of themselves is. If he's a male, then he's a male. If she's a woman, then she's a woman. You can ''identify'' as whatever you want, it doesn't mean others should go along with you in your false belief of what you are. Yea many people dont get this. You can do or be whatever you want. Just dont expect me to go with it. It's like triggering because of religions. Oh wait... |
| I don't interact with them in the first place. I'm an adult and I don't have time to play make believe with some special snowflake. |
| How do people call someone who identifies themself as a dakimura? Im am definitely not asking this question because I identify myself as a dakimura. |
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| If you want to call yourself a Ford Focus, call yourself a Ford Focus for all I care, but I draw the line after he/she/they pronouns. |
Bobby2Hands said: chicoplaya said: Retard. There are only 2 genders: Male (XY) and female (XX). The rest are mental problems. No matter what your little brain tells you. You won't switch chromosomes just because you believe it. There are 6 possible chromosome combinations in humans. XX XY XO XXY XXX XYY So I guess there are six genders right? Nope. Only X chromosomes is female, if a Y chromosome is included in the combinaton, then male. |
Nyu said: Yep!Mayuka said: Well, I live in Canada so I have to call them by their preferred pronouns or I'll get arrested :) Not that I would call them something they didn't like if there was no law here. I prefer not to get into a fight with someone I don't know. Usually they/them. Can people actually get arrested by not adhering to people's made up pronouns? ArticleFromJune2017 said: Canada passed a law Thursday making it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns. Critics say that Canadians who do not subscribe to progressive gender theory could be accused of hate crimes, jailed, fined, and made to take anti-bias training. Canada’s Senate passed Bill C-16, which puts “gender identity” and “gender expression” into both the country’s Human Rights Code, as well as the hate crime category of its Criminal Code by a vote of 67-11, according to LifeSiteNews. The bill now only needs royal assent from the governor general. “Great news,” announced Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister. “Bill C-16 has passed the Senate – making it illegal to discriminate based on gender identity or expression. #LoveisLove.” filling up space damn you character limit |
Mayuka said: Yep! ArticleFromJune2017 said: Canada passed a law Thursday making it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns. Critics say that Canadians who do not subscribe to progressive gender theory could be accused of hate crimes, jailed, fined, and made to take anti-bias training. Canada’s Senate passed Bill C-16, which puts “gender identity” and “gender expression” into both the country’s Human Rights Code, as well as the hate crime category of its Criminal Code by a vote of 67-11, according to LifeSiteNews. The bill now only needs royal assent from the governor general. “Great news,” announced Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister. “Bill C-16 has passed the Senate – making it illegal to discriminate based on gender identity or expression. #LoveisLove.” filling up space damn you character limit  You can now be jailed for being scientifically and/or grammatically correct. |
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MortalMelancholy said: AFAIK, only Canada and Sweden are very progressive on not hurting peoples' feelings so everyone else is safe!You can now be jailed for being scientifically and/or grammatically correct. |
spuukiebuugi said: How can someone be a nonbinary but want to be a transmale? Doesn't make sense. You can't be either but want to be one.who pretends to be a nonbinary transboi Yeah NY is very progressive too. |
Mayuka said: Yep! ArticleFromJune2017 said: Canada passed a law Thursday making it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns. Critics say that Canadians who do not subscribe to progressive gender theory could be accused of hate crimes, jailed, fined, and made to take anti-bias training. Canada’s Senate passed Bill C-16, which puts “gender identity” and “gender expression” into both the country’s Human Rights Code, as well as the hate crime category of its Criminal Code by a vote of 67-11, according to LifeSiteNews. The bill now only needs royal assent from the governor general. “Great news,” announced Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister. “Bill C-16 has passed the Senate – making it illegal to discriminate based on gender identity or expression. #LoveisLove.” filling up space damn you character limit I got into a debate with another person over this, the law doesn't outright make it illegal to misgender someone, but in the Workplace, I think it would be considered discrimination, even though the other person was blinded by ignorance. |
Nyu said: Does it not apply to all situations though? Well, either way, don't wanna take any chances. Overall, there's no harm of me sticking to whatever pronouns they want.I got into a debate with another person over this, the law doesn't outright make it illegal to misgender someone, but in the Workplace, I think it would be considered discrimination, even though the other person was blinded by ignorance. spuukiebuugi said: Me too. I wouldn't say I'd give up someone just because of their extra identities and beliefs but I wouldn't consider them as someone I can talk to about serious topics because it just shows how close minded they are. People who create new identities for themselves are usually the type to call people bigots for having differing opinions sadly.I consider myself a fairly accepting person but the moment someone starts shoving gender and pronouns down my throat forcefully is the moment I'm basically done with said person. |
spuukiebuugi said: I completely agree but for these people, identity is the most important. They dismiss peoples' opinions if they're white, male or cis because those people have "privilege". They are unfair because all of their arguments are about feelings and not logic. There's no way to change the way they think because they are the popular opinion now while we are in the 1% who can see beyond a sexuality/gender/race.It's a very "first world problem" superficial aspects to fixate on. Actual trans people will correct you if you misgender them and move on. Special snowflake tumblrinas will call you discriminatory and closed minded till the ends of the earth. These kids don't even know proper discrimination, they wouldn't know it if it slapped them in the face. People undergo so much worse than just being called by the wrong "pronouns", goes to show how shallow their mindset as to what gender and sexuality are to them- pity points and props. I've been into arguments with people before and they dismissed anything I've said because I am a cisfemale. Therefore, I'm not allowed to argue with them. No point fighting for your thoughts anymore when they're dismissed. |
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