| Romance is the worst genre in anime IN MY OPINION.. First of all, most "romance" is just two cowards being indecisive for the majority of the show. That isn't riveting unless they have big chemistry. Most anime has very little feelings and breadth of feelings that show real love. Sacrifice, suffering, comforting one another etc. Romance is like ketchup that is put on everything. There are a lot of shows that didn't need romance but are just thrown in there. A lot of the time, it is not even fleshed out in a meaningful way. It is usually used a fanservice subplot that does nothing to the characters or gives depth to their relationship. This is why I like koe no katachi because there was no unecessary romance. It was about atonement and learning to love others, and romance would have detracted from the message of the movie. added this part so it is not a shit post. 99% of romance is about indecisive high school kids in anime. There is no real feelings, just high school infatuation. The drama seems drawn out and unrealistic. Watch In the Mood for love, that is real romance. Blue Valentine etc. They got into the minds of the characters and actually went deep into the relationship, the hard parts and the good parts. The relationship is always key. What I see in anime is hackneyed juvenile garbage. The only good romance anime I have seen is Tatami Galaxy and Honey and clover and the best parts aren't even the romance. Also monogatari. Why? Because there are many layers of depth, transference and dealing with traumas that doesn't make the love interest seem like a plot device or a foil character only. The characters in monogatari are not codependent, but rather individuals who got to together and learn to be together, they get the meaning of what it means to love someone. |
PoeticJusticeMay 22, 2017 10:14 PM
| Romance is one of the only reasons I enjoy anime so much. What do YOU know about real love? I've seen plenty of titles that portray it well. What is this shitpost? >_> |
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| Koe no Katachi is kind of a romance and it's amazing. Some other series within the romance genera can be okay as well, usually the less generic ones are okay |
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| Only the finest quality bait/shitpost here... Nawt Like it's not "most anime has little feelings" but either you don't grasp those feelings or aren't watching the right anime... That's as much of the bait as I can handle phew |
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| This is a complete shitpost. Lol what do you even know about real love? |
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| I think I've only seen like 7 or 8 good shows that were tagged as romance. |
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| bad shitpost with little effort just cause you didnt like the genre dosnt mean you should rant about it no one gives a fuck. and your claims are absurd and bs like you. ketchup my ass. |
| niggas who never had girlfriends are telling me what do I know about love. 99% of romance is about indecisive high school kids. There is no real feelings, just high school infatuation. The drama seems drawn out and unrealistic. Watch In the Mood for love, that is real romance. Blue Valentine etc. They got into the minds of the characters and actually went deep into the relationship, the hard parts and the good parts. The relationship is always key. What I see in anime is hackneyed juvenile garbage. The only good romance anime I have seen is Tatami Galaxy and Honey and clover and the best parts aren't even the romance. Also monogatari. Why? Because there are many layers of depth, transference and dealing with traumas that doesn't make the love interest seem like a plot device or a foil character only. |
PoeticJusticeMay 22, 2017 8:11 PM
PoeticJustice said: niggas who never had girlfriends are telling me what do I know about love. I happen to be a woman, I've dated various guys, and I sure as hell DO know what love is about. 99% of romance is about indecisive high school kids. There is no real feelings, just high school infatuation. Um, PLENTY of people marry their high school sweethearts. Like Gackt. Just because they are young doesn't mean their feelings aren't real or can't become real. What kind of stupid logic is that? |
ChiibiMay 22, 2017 8:43 PM
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| If you don't like Romance that implies that your are an eunuch eunuch eunuch eunuch eunuch. |
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| Its not bad, It is bad if the genre only heading and focused mostly towards Romance. Sometimes mixing Romance with other genre by destroying the setting and pacing will also results the same. Either way i only love romance because theres a comedy or any other genre that suit it, if its focused towards one i probably pass. |
| I kind of agree with you. Personally, I tend to dislike romance in general, not just in anime. In Western shows and movies too. It's more of a taste thing in my case though lol. |
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| I agree, but its mostly because of how Japanese people are with romance. There is no middle ground with them. It's either be completely shy and holding hands at the end of the season or rape. |
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| A.) The many mediocre shows that populate the genre is not the equivalent of the genre itself and all the possibilities it entail. If you want to declare a genre bad, you start by the limitations inherent to the said genre that make its capability of sustaining a narrative subpar. You are just saying f*ck this genre because f*ck its shows. B.) Isn't that true for every genre? |
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Chiibi said: PoeticJustice said: niggas who never had girlfriends are telling me what do I know about love. I happen to be a woman, I've dated various guys, and I sure as hell DO know what love is about. 99% of romance is about indecisive high school kids. There is no real feelings, just high school infatuation. Um, PLENTY of people marry their high school sweethearts. Like Gackt. Just because they are young doesn't mean their feelings aren't real or can't become real. What kind of stupid logic is that? so because I don't like romance anime generally I don't know about love? 2. I was not saying that high school kids cannot have real love, the depiction of love seems more like an infatuation. It isn't convincing, it isn't gripping. The depiction of romance in anime is often lackluster. Why do they love them? A superficial reason. Is the relationship explored sufficiently? In my opinion, no. Not all shows, but a good portion of shows just involve blushing. There are only a few shows off my head that had good high school love like ef a tale of memories, um something. A lot of romance shows are will they or wont they in my experience. One of the reasons I like bakemonogatari is because they get rid of all that and just focus on the character relationships. Not all this other bs. This is my opinion on the genre based on the shows I have seen. This is based on the commonalities I have noticed in the depiction of what is called romance in anime. |
PoeticJusticeMay 22, 2017 9:20 PM
| What is love? baby don't hurt me x 2 .. No More :p |
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le_halfhand_easy said: A.) The many mediocre shows that populate the genre is not the equivalent of the genre itself and all the possibilities it entail. If you want to declare a genre bad, you start by the limitations inherent to the said genre that make its capability of sustaining a narrative subpar. You are just saying f*ck this genre because f*ck its shows. B.) Isn't that true for every genre? You are right I was mostly talking about the depictions of love in this particular genre. Obviously, there can be good shows but I feel as though this field is lacking in particular because I don't find the depiction of romance as convincing or entertaining. That can be true for any genre and differs based on opinion. My opinion is that romance is not utilized in an effective way based on the shows I have seen. If you would like, you can explain why you disagree and then we can discuss in depth. |
| yea i tend to enjoy romance between married couples more rather than the cringe that's prevalent in so many love stories nowadays except sao that "romance" was trash ive been particularly enjoying the romance in this anime because of how it presents the more mundane side of romance while surprisingly being very genuinely sweet |
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| Romance is one of my favorite genre but I have to agree... and don’t get me started with the sh*tty love rival that comes out of freaking nowhere. *Sigh* Animepleb28 said: +1Well, there are a few anime that have the characters get together early and spend the rest of the show as a couple. But I do sort of agree that to many so called 'romance' anime are just 12 or 24 episodes of will they won't they. I'm always on the look out for the former. Anybody got any good suggestions? Try: MOMOKURI Ore Monogatari!! 12-sai. NAZO NO KANOJO X FUTARI ECCHI (Jul 26, 2002 to Jan 22, 2004) OKUSAMA WA JOSHIKOUSEI HONOBONO LOG Sagaken wo Meguru Animation MEGANE NA KANOJO LOVELY★COMPLEX |
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| Most romance anime those characters only get together in the very last minute/episode. But then again, I never care about romance in anime in the first place. -EDIT- Not surprisingly, romance genre among my least favorite genre, ranked 35 out of 39 according to MAL Graph. http://graph.anime.plus/Zapredon/favorites,anime |
ZapredonMay 22, 2017 10:14 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Aure0lin said: yea i tend to enjoy romance between married couples more rather than the cringe that's prevalent in so many love stories nowadays except sao that "romance" was trash ive been particularly enjoying the romance in this anime because of how it presents the more mundane side of romance while surprisingly being very genuinely sweet thanks for the recommendation. I will check it out. |
| Harem is such a bad genre is what you should be saying |
PoeticJustice said: Romance is the worst genre in anime. First of all, most "romance" is just two cowards being indecisive for the majority of the show. Most anime has very little feelings and breadth of feelings that show real love. Romance is like a shitty ketchup that is put on everything. A lot of the time, it is not even fleshed out. This is why I like koe no katachi because there was no unecessary romance. It was about atonement and learning to love others, and romance would have detracted from the message of the movie. added this part so it is not a shit post. 99% of romance is about indecisive high school kids. There is no real feelings, just high school infatuation. The drama seems drawn out and unrealistic. Watch In the Mood for love, that is real romance. Blue Valentine etc. They got into the minds of the characters and actually went deep into the relationship, the hard parts and the good parts. The relationship is always key. What I see in anime is hackneyed juvenile garbage. The only good romance anime I have seen is Tatami Galaxy and Honey and clover and the best parts aren't even the romance. Also monogatari. Why? Because there are many layers of depth, transference and dealing with traumas that doesn't make the love interest seem like a plot device or a foil character only. Well every genre serves it's purpose, no matter how repetitive/generic it may seem. Every genre will forever have an audience to cater to. It's safe to say that a lot may disagree with you. Personally I came here out of interest, not to agree or disagree but that interest disappeared quite instantly, after I had read the first sentence of your post. The romance genre doesn't even come remotely close to being as generic as your prejudice, shit post. |
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SnapMyBerry said: You're like Hijikata's shitty mayo that is put on everything. haha, priceless! Anyways, my two cents... "Romance is the worst genre" and then proceeds to say "the only good romance anime I've seen" etc etc. Kinda contradicting, eh? My favourite genre is romance. I'm 20 with no experience whatsoever and I ask where's the problem? Whether I have experienced "real" love or not doesn't account for much. No matter how the romance in anime is portrayed, whether it's close to "real" love or not let's not forget that in the end anime is fiction. There are all kinds of romance animes out there for those looking. Different types of romance, subgenres of romance one could say. Even though my favourite genre is Romance there are situations I'm not fond of in romance, for example Triangle dramas and overly dramatic or dark ones. In the beginning I was hoping for a kiss in the end to settle the matter in romance animes and thought that it was the epitome of romance. As I continued to watch animes and explored the formerly mentioned subgenres I changed my mind. Just because an anime doesn't have a kiss doesn't mean it won't be enjoyable example: and just because an anime has a lot of kisses doesn't mean it'll be the best romance anime you've ever seen, example: In the end, it's just a simple matter of personal preference for everyone. To each his own. Don't like it; don't watch it. |
cHowaitoMay 22, 2017 10:11 PM
BararaqSaiqa said: PoeticJustice said: Romance is the worst genre in anime. First of all, most "romance" is just two cowards being indecisive for the majority of the show. Most anime has very little feelings and breadth of feelings that show real love. Romance is like a shitty ketchup that is put on everything. A lot of the time, it is not even fleshed out. This is why I like koe no katachi because there was no unecessary romance. It was about atonement and learning to love others, and romance would have detracted from the message of the movie. added this part so it is not a shit post. 99% of romance is about indecisive high school kids. There is no real feelings, just high school infatuation. The drama seems drawn out and unrealistic. Watch In the Mood for love, that is real romance. Blue Valentine etc. They got into the minds of the characters and actually went deep into the relationship, the hard parts and the good parts. The relationship is always key. What I see in anime is hackneyed juvenile garbage. The only good romance anime I have seen is Tatami Galaxy and Honey and clover and the best parts aren't even the romance. Also monogatari. Why? Because there are many layers of depth, transference and dealing with traumas that doesn't make the love interest seem like a plot device or a foil character only. Well every genre serves it's purpose, no matter how repetitive/generic it may seem. Every genre will forever have an audience to cater to. It's safe to say that a lot may disagree with you. Personally I came here out of interest, not to agree or disagree but that interest disappeared quite instantly, after I had read the first sentence of your post. The romance genre doesn't even come remotely close to being as generic as your prejudice, shit post. You're response is not an argument. You are obviously very emotional that I attacked your favorite genre. I offered elaboration underneath the sentence and you could have responded to that if you weren't so upset. |
cHowaito said: SnapMyBerry said: You're like Hijikata's shitty mayo that is put on everything. haha, priceless! Anyways, my two cents... "Romance is the worst genre" and then proceeds to say "the only good romance anime I've seen" etc etc. Kinda contradicting, eh? My favourite genre is romance. I'm 20 with no experience whatsoever and I ask where's the problem? Whether I have experienced "real" love or not doesn't account for much. No matter how the romance in anime is portrayed, whether it's close to "real" love or not let's not forget that in the end anime is fiction. There are all kinds of romance animes out there for those looking. Different types of romance, subgenres of romance one could say. Even though my favourite genre is Romance there are situations I'm not fond of in romance, for example Triangle dramas and overly dramatic or dark ones. Don't like it; don't watch it. To each his own So I can't say a genre is bad as a whole but then give examples from that genre that I did enjoy? That does not make me hypocritical, it would actually make my viewpoint stronger since I have a basis for what I like and dislike. And I never said realism was the problem, I said the depiction of romance is what I did not like. It is not romance, it is just indecisiveness and doesn't really focus on the romantic relationship itself. Just because someone likes someone else does not make it good romance in my opinion. There is no focus on chemistry, or the feeling of love, what means to love someone, the good and the bad. That is why I do not like romance. Why can't I think a genre is worse than another genre? Why can't I express my dislike on a forum where people can agree or disagree with me? Because you don't like how I expressed my opinion, the conversation shouldn't exist and I should shut up? And the only time a discussion is initiated on a forum is when there are strong words loaded with emotion. If I detached said I did not like romance in an uninflammatory way, nobody would respond. Me saying crudely, that I don't think romance is good because it comes off as juvenile and not genuine just infatuation is what got you to post. Romance actually has to do with the characters being in an intimate relationship, not them just questioning if it should happen or not. That is only going half of the way. Romance is also what happens after two people are getting together. |
PoeticJusticeMay 22, 2017 10:10 PM
PoeticJustice said: Why do they love them? A superficial reason. The characters are in love because they enjoy being with each other...........yeah, they make each other happy. That doesn't seem like a superficial reason to me. Is the relationship explored sufficiently? In my opinion, no. Read more manga..........I guess. A lot of series in anime form don't get the chance to explore it all that much because they cut them off too early. You could also try watching more shoujo. (You mentioned liking Honey and Clover and this is a female demographic anime) But stay away from anything based off a game. They're normally terrible. Not all shows, but a good portion of shows just involve blushing. But...........it's cute. :| |
ChiibiMay 22, 2017 10:21 PM
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| @PoeticJustice You claim romance is the worst genre but according to MAL Graph, romance is ranked your 13 out of 42 of your favorite genre. http://graph.anime.plus/PoeticJustice/favorites,anime Your thought on this? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
PoeticJustice said: BararaqSaiqa said: Well every genre serves it's purpose, no matter how repetitive/generic it may seem. Every genre will forever have an audience to cater to. It's safe to say that a lot may disagree with you. Personally I came here out of interest, not to agree or disagree but that interest disappeared quite instantly, after I had read the first sentence of your post. The romance genre doesn't even come remotely close to being as generic as your prejudice, shit post. You're response is not an argument. You are obviously very emotional that I attacked your favorite genre. I offered elaboration underneath the sentence and you could have responded to that if you weren't so upset. I don't remember indicating that it would be. Unfortunately I've never come across a genre in which I can consider a favourite yet. And as to what has me "emotional" is not your "attack" but actually the undying waves of shit, uninteresting threads on MAL much like yours. I'll be anticipating a much better conversation with you as soon as you decide to post something good. P.S. I'll give you an E for Effort |
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Zapredon said: @PoeticJustice You claim romance is the worst genre but according to MAL Graph, romance is ranked your 13 out of 42 of your favorite genre. http://graph.anime.plus/PoeticJustice/favorites,anime Your thought on this? it is because some anime is classified as romance because two characters like each other at one point in the show. |
| First off, please read my comment again. I also quick-editted and added a bit more in the end before I saw your reply. PoeticJustice said: So I can't say a genre is bad as a whole but then give examples from that genre that I did enjoy? That does not make me hypocritical, it would actually make my viewpoint stronger since I have a basis for what I like and dislike. And I never said realism was the problem, I said the depiction of romance is what I did not like. It is not romance, it is just indecisiveness and doesn't really focus on the romantic relationship itself. Just because someone likes someone else does not make it good romance in my opinion. There is no focus on chemistry, or the feeling of love, what means to love someone, the good and the bad. That is why I do not like romance. I never said you were a hypocrite, I simply said it was contradictive. The depiction of romance is what you disliked, it's not romance? Yes, this is your opinion. It's just a cluster of indecisiveness and doesn't focus on the relationship itself, the chemistry, feeling etc etc? Yes, there are romance animes with these "issues" of yours. PoeticJustice said: "Why can't I think a genre is worse than another genre? Why can't I express my dislike on a forum where people can agree or disagree with me? Because you don't like how I expressed my opinion, the conversation shouldn't exist and I should shut up?" Your opinion is yours alone. I haven't forbidden you from doing anything whatsoever. Please don't twist my words PoeticJustice said: "Romance actually has to do with the characters being in an intimate relationship, not them just questioning if it should happen or not. That is only going half of the way. Romance is also what happens after two people are getting together." Again, yes there are different types of romance out there and there's something you don't like about certain types of romance. |
cHowaitoMay 23, 2017 1:23 AM
BararaqSaiqa said: PoeticJustice said: You're response is not an argument. You are obviously very emotional that I attacked your favorite genre. I offered elaboration underneath the sentence and you could have responded to that if you weren't so upset. I don't remember indicating that it would be. Unfortunately I've never come across a genre in which I can consider a favourite yet. And as to what has me "emotional" is not your "attack" but actually the undying waves of shit, uninteresting threads on MAL much like yours. I'll be anticipating a much better conversation with you as soon as you decide to post something good. P.S. I'll give you an E for Effort You could respond to the posts where I explicitly stated my problems with the shows in the romance genre. I have went more indepth but you ignored them. But you didn't. Now why is that? Because you were upset. There has been many springboards for discussion in this thread but yet you bitch incessantly because I said some mean words. So why don't you prove me wrong? Because you are too in your feelings to even go past your comfort zone. Tell me why I am wrong. Saying "it is a shitpost" means nothing because if you noticed I have been editing and adding to most post to facilitate a meaningful discussion. And lol at your superiority complex, like it is everyone's job on mal to please you and your sensibilities. Why don't you make an interesting topic? Is it because you lack ability to think of a conversational piece that could facilitate debate? |
Chiibi said: PoeticJustice said: Why do they love them? A superficial reason. The characters are in love because they enjoy being with each other...........yeah, they make each other happy. That doesn't seem like a superficial reason to me. Is the relationship explored sufficiently? In my opinion, no. Read more manga..........I guess. A lot of series in anime form don't get the chance to explore it all that much because they cut them off too early. You could also try watching more shoujo. (You mentioned liking Honey and Clover and this is a female demographic anime) But stay away from anything based off a game. They're normally terrible. Not all shows, but a good portion of shows just involve blushing. But...........it's cute. :| thank you. You are right anime adaptations are usually gimped but I still feel as though it takes too long to actually get to the depth of the relationship. I was reading kare kano and that was actually a good relationship manga because it deal with the traumas and stress of both characters and how their love for one another facilitated their own growth. Thank you for the post. I did not mean to offend you |
| I can't really take this too seriously when you mention Monogatari as a good romance show but hey you do you I guess |
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| Almost got baited until I saw you mention Honey and Clover which is in your favorites :^) |
| OP talked sense but the title is a pure clickbait. Just take a look at the popular series like Toradora, for instance. What the heck is that even? Can't fathom how can anyone call it good. Toradora's comedy sucks, the characters suck, the plot sucks, the romance the suckest of all. If that shows is one of the best of the genre, romance genre deserved to be condemned. |
otterman965 said: OP talked sense but the title is a pure clickbait. Just take a look at the popular series like Toradora, for instance. What the heck is that even? Can't fathom how can anyone call it good. Toradora's comedy sucks, the characters suck, the plot sucks, the romance the suckest of all. If that shows is one of the best of the genre, romance genre deserved to be condemned. Your opinion has been duly noted. Too bad Vayne isn't here or she'd condemn the genre for you. |
| I was going to say I agree, then I remembered I don't actually watch enough romance anime to judge. Spice and Wolf is also very good (unfinished as fuck, but I think it illustrates well the point of how hard it is to portray a good romance relationship when it took them 2 seasons and it didn't even get that far) and I like the ef: tales of Memories/Melodies series, melodramatic as they are. I agree on Tatami Galaxy and Bake too. People calling this shitpost/bait have a really hard time accepting that others might not agree with what they like, I guess. |
| Tfw this many people salty at OP. I agree with a lot of what you said, but I still really like good romances to the point that I guess I could be considered a fan of the genre. The main part I want to address is what I disagree with or at least feel needs clarification. I don't think showing the infatuation of two people and building that up is necessarily a bad thing as long as you're still developing the relationship. Keeping in mind I've only seen the first season, Kimi ni Todoke could be exaggeratingly called 80% blushing for romantic content, but in reality a great deal of time and effort is spent in the anime developing relationships between Sawako and various other people, Shouta included. At the end of the first season, is her relationship with Shouta still fairly shallow? Sure. I have no problem admitting that, yet at the same time I still think it's an excellent romance because it captures that early phase of infatuation and innocence so well and gives the relationship a lot more substance than deciding whether they should even talk to each other for most of the show. They have chemistry and it goes a long way to making that aspect or the show enjoyable. So although I definitely want to see more romances that explore the relationship beyond the early stages, I don't think the early stages are inherently bad-- it's just that they're often poorly handled in anime. Thanks for the extra push to continue watching KareKano, btw. It's definitely the best anime romcom I've seen so far. |
TripleSRankMay 22, 2017 11:56 PM
| Stop watching shitty romance anime shows and start with the good ones, you look like intelligent person i'm sure you'll find some. |
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