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Jan 24, 2017 4:19 PM
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Has anyone asked for 19 Days or Old Xian to be added to the database yet?
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Jan 25, 2017 7:28 AM
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Yes it has, but it won't be added because it never got a book published. Its a web comic, it doesn't have a physical book. The only Manhwa and Manhua that will be added to the database are the ones that got published in magazines.

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Jan 25, 2017 7:43 AM
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Oh....
Well that sucks :/
Jan 25, 2017 7:46 AM
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tbeans10 said:
Oh....
Well that sucks :/

it does actually, the manhua is so good <3 lol I tried adding it once.

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Jan 25, 2017 7:50 AM
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Mayumi said:
tbeans10 said:
Oh....
Well that sucks :/

it does actually, the manhua is so good <3 lol I tried adding it once.

I had been wondering why there's such a lack of manhua on the site, when I knew of a few that weren't listed. *sigh* I guess I get it now. Do you know why MAL has a rule like that?
Jan 25, 2017 8:00 AM
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tbeans10 said:
I had been wondering why there's such a lack of manhua on the site, when I knew of a few that weren't listed. *sigh* I guess I get it now. Do you know why MAL has a rule like that?

MAL is primarily a japanese anime and manga site. Which means only japanese ones can be added. But even in japan, manhwa ( korean ) and manhuas ( chinese ) became popular and it spread to the west like mangas, they decided to add them. but still, since it is a primarily japanese anime / manga site, only the ones published in physical copies could be added. Anything other than that, webcomics or not won't be.
There are a few webcomics in the DB too.
Kineta said:
Manhwa, Manhua:
professionally published comics made in Korea or China for their respective markets.

if you want a site that has any manga, try BakaUpdates. It even has more info.
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Jan 25, 2017 8:03 AM
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Mayumi said:
tbeans10 said:
I had been wondering why there's such a lack of manhua on the site, when I knew of a few that weren't listed. *sigh* I guess I get it now. Do you know why MAL has a rule like that?

MAL is primarily a japanese anime and manga site. Which means only japanese ones can be added. But even in japan, manhwa ( korean ) and manhuas ( chinese ) became popular and it spread to the west like mangas, they decided to add them. but still, since it is a primarily japanese anime / manga site, only the ones published in physical copies could be added. Anything other than that, webcomics or not won't be.
There are a few webcomics in the DB too.

if you want a site that has any manga, try BakaUpdates. It even has more info.

Hmmm, still sucks pretty bad. Let's just hope 19 Days gets printed someday so it can be added. MAL is my main eastern database, so I hope one day they'll just add everything. Thank you for the information!
Jan 26, 2017 3:34 PM
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Mayumi said:
Yes it has, but it won't be added because it never got a book published. Its a web comic, it doesn't have a physical book. The only Manhwa and Manhua that will be added to the database are the ones that got published in magazines.


>> 1. Only manga published by reputable publishing companies will be admitted to the manga database, with the following exceptions:
a. Doujinshi:
of original story or using public domain characters, drawn by a published mangaka.

While 19 Days is a web comic (doujinshi), it should qualify for the database because she was a published mangaka with her Xiao Chou Dan Ni series which was serialized in a web manhua magazine before being physically published by the same publisher who predominately does physical releases for manhua and licensed manga.
Jan 26, 2017 8:12 PM
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lanblade said:
>> 1. Only manga published by reputable publishing companies will be admitted to the manga database, with the following exceptions:
a. Doujinshi:
of original story or using public domain characters, drawn by a published mangaka.

While 19 Days is a web comic (doujinshi), it should qualify for the database because she was a published mangaka with her Xiao Chou Dan Ni series which was serialized in a web manhua magazine before being physically published by the same publisher who predominately does physical releases for manhua and licensed manga.

i tried to add it to the database, and I got a pm saying it wont be added cause of the reason I stated. So what I said is only limited to my own knowledge.

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Jan 26, 2017 8:14 PM
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Would it be okay if we tagged some Manga Database staff members into this thread?
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ya, we should summon some manga DB staff. That rule is the reason why we have so many doujinshi in the database.

Most doujinshi aren't formally physically published either. As in the artists just send their data file to a printer's office and they pick up their stack of 100 volumes before selling it themselves on their Pixiv account, their blog, a digital version on a doujinshi website (getchu.com), or head off to Comiket and sell it there but the thousands of other doujinshi creators.

Does it have to be printed like that to qualify for the DB (besides being a work of a professionally published mangaka)? Because the rule doesn't say it has to.
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@lanblade if what you're saying is true, then maybe because a doujinshi is a work directly related to another serialized work that was published. Thats why some doujins get in. I'm just guessing here tbh. It did say
Kineta said:
Doujinshi
of original story or using public domain characters, drawn by a published mangaka

so maybe thats the reason doujins get in.
Manhwa and Manhua probably don't follow that system. and as much as I know, 19 days is an original work from old Xian.

lanblade said:
Does it have to be printed like that to qualify for the DB (besides being a work of a professionally published mangaka)?
this might also be a reason.

but still, I think some manga db mods should be tagged just to clarify everything.
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Jan 27, 2017 5:39 AM
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Since neither of you seems to want to do the tagging...

@adamantine @Ana @eL_marco @GreyHeron @Iconoclast @Jinbou @Loxaris @mugi @Touka @Wizzy123

Does anyone want to help clarify?
Jan 27, 2017 6:23 AM

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In case a manga DB staffs come by here :
On the topic of Old Xian, I tried to add Xiao Chou Dan Ni in the database almost a year ago but it's still pending approval, probably long lost in the queue https://myanimelist.net/manga/99531/Xiao_Chou_Dan_Ni

more info Xiao Chou Dan Ni

(sorry thought i could give it a little up here)
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I'm not sure what you would call a doujinshi in Korean or Chinese, but 19 days won't be put in the same category as the Japanese doujins on MAL. Manga, Manhua and Manhwa are essentially the same (Comics in their respected countries), but each have their own stipulations in the database.

Since 19 days is originally in Korean and basically a manhua web comic, it should follow the same rules as the others in the database. Being published physically.

Does it have to be printed like that to qualify for the DB (besides being a work of a professionally published mangaka)? Because the rule doesn't say it has to.


It's exactly as you're reading it. There are no grand restrictions on doujinshi mainly because there's not many that even find their way into the database. For every 50 doujinshi you come across, only 3-4 are original stories. And translators usually gravitate to the most popular series (usually airing or recently aired shows) which means even less doujinshi submissions.

Though If you're going to add one, I would expect it to be at least chapter length. Not some 2-3 page "story" off of pixiv. That's what you would call a teaser, not a chapter.

Though even the current rules on doujinshi might change soon. The guidelines are changing for certain things in the next couple of months (no, not for webtoons, chill).

A little sneak peak info;


@tbeans10 @Mayumi @lanblade

@aemiliuz I don't work on Korean or Chinese titles. My expertise is Japanese.
Jan 29, 2017 12:22 AM

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I have to keep a special list for all this stuff on my blog and I just wish it would be all put together :>

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KuroDubZero said:


A little sneak peak info;


When can we expect this change for Light Novels?
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this is so fucking stupid
the purpose of this site is so we can track our anime/manga/manhua/manhwa.
so it's supposed to have ALL of them
not reject those that doesn't fit in their criteria
bastards
lanblade said:
Mayumi said:
Yes it has, but it won't be added because it never got a book published. Its a web comic, it doesn't have a physical book. The only Manhwa and Manhua that will be added to the database are the ones that got published in magazines.


>> 1. Only manga published by reputable publishing companies will be admitted to the manga database, with the following exceptions:
a. Doujinshi:
of original story or using public domain characters, drawn by a published mangaka.

While 19 Days is a web comic (doujinshi), it should qualify for the database because she was a published mangaka with her Xiao Chou Dan Ni series which was serialized in a web manhua magazine before being physically published by the same publisher who predominately does physical releases for manhua and licensed manga.


19 Days is not a doujinshi. it's an original work
KuroDubZero said:
I'm not sure what you would call a doujinshi in Korean or Chinese, but 19 days won't be put in the same category as the Japanese doujins on MAL. Manga, Manhua and Manhwa are essentially the same (Comics in their respected countries), but each have their own stipulations in the database.

Since 19 days is originally in Korean and basically a manhua web comic, it should follow the same rules as the others in the database. Being published physically


19 Days is originally in Chinese, not Korean.
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It's already been rejected many times and multiple manga moderators have explained why.

19 Days (87932), (88323), (88728), (88861), (89071) - does not meet the Database Guidelines as it is an unpublished Chinese webcomic (Weibo)
19 Tian (87939) - does not meet the Database Guidelines as it is an unpublished Chinese webcomic (Weibo)
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