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Nov 26, 2016 8:22 AM
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Hmm an episode that focuses a bit on Eiichi Ootori? Wasn't expecting that but I think he's an underrated character.

He and Otoya has some tense chemistry this episode. I think some of his actions reminded Otoya of who he really is. As awkward as I find the episode is, it did present Otoya's personality in a way that I haven't noticed before.
Nov 26, 2016 10:41 AM
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Eiichi Otori x Ittoki Otoya new pairing, and the way he wanted him to keep going deeper and had that true understanding of Otoya that no one else did. Incredible, and he was even hugging him and wrapping his hand on his face, and then in the song when Eiichi caught Otoya so good. Best song this season too.

I wonder what happens next considering how Ittoki had to confront his true self.
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Nov 26, 2016 10:56 AM
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Something they've never tried before... even the leader and boss of Heavens have different vision. That part seems brainwashed and he's conflicted when writing the lyric. His senpai and partner noticed the difference.

He thinks that the smile is fake to hide his painful past about something he lost. IN song is exactly about that... Wow, ending in cliffhanger. I'm curious if the group will be broken with him like that.
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Nov 26, 2016 11:49 AM
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Im not sure about this Episode. Otoya is my favourite and I did'nt like Eiichi in the first place. But now I'm struggling with my feelings about Eiichi. He seems to be kind in his own strange way, but still tried to break Otoya.

But I like the song! One of the best of all seasons. I'm excited about the next Episode.
Nov 26, 2016 12:11 PM
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The ep was good in a way but I feel bad about Otoya heading down that path...
He's usually so genki and now I realized how much I liked that part about him even tho he's not my fav.
Nov 26, 2016 12:28 PM
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the latter duet pairs this season have definitely been a nice change of pace because it feels like they're exploring into the characters more and presenting plot points that seem to leave an actual mark on the grande scheme of things by affecting the characters somehow.

this episode was definitely interesting. there was a lot of tension which was kind of awkward, but i guess fanservice is fanservice. otoya has always been my favorite so i'm excited to see what's in store next episode since this episode wasn't as stand-alone as the others have been. after reading spoilers here and there i'm really looking forward to see more of otoya's past and how he manages the resolve the disconnect between the mask he puts on for others and who he truly is.

great song too. a lot of the duets i was really looking forward to ended up being rather lackluster so i'm glad that this one came out relatively okay.
Nov 26, 2016 12:44 PM
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Welp I'm traumatized. This was the darkest episode I've ever seen. And Eiichi was acting really gay for Otoya. >__>

One thing I'm still angry about with the whole talk of 'Otoya you've lost everything' and going on about his parents...



But anyways this episode freaked me out way too much. This should not have happened to Otoya. It's gonna take a lot of work to put him back together after Eiichi's garbage..

Nov 26, 2016 12:56 PM
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Otori is a creep and I'm a bit scared by the whole setting of the episode...It's so UtanoPri unlike - not in a bad way but I felt like I've watched a psycho-thriller.

I'm confused XD
Nov 26, 2016 1:01 PM
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but...even otoya has a dark side....mmmm hahhaha phycothriller yes it´s like that
Nov 26, 2016 2:56 PM

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O shiet, did they really went path of psychological thriller in bright and colorful UtaPri?! xD I can't believe it.

Anyway, this ep had rapist Midorikawa (besuto Midorikawa), serious Reiji and lifeless Otoya, so it was the best one so far for me <3 A little bit more and we'd get yandere route lolz.


Hot af, 10/10
Nov 26, 2016 3:40 PM
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he broke him. that jerk. the thing is, he's not alone. for one his parents aren't dead. and two all of starish and their senpais are still with him. did he just forget about all the fun they all had together ? debuting together, meeting cecil, singing together. they all had so much fun together and eiichi comes in and messes everything up ! he just wants ittoki to be in as much pain as he in. boo hoo ! you're dad's an asshole, get over it!! you have options.
Nov 26, 2016 4:01 PM

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27CansOfTuna said:
Eiichi Otori x Ittoki Otoya new pairing, and the way he wanted him to keep going deeper and had that true understanding of Otoya that no one else did. Incredible, and he was even hugging him and wrapping his hand on his face, and then in the song when Eiichi caught Otoya so good. Best song this season too.

I wonder what happens next considering how Ittoki had to confront his true self.


Heck yeah new pairing <3 I loved it. It was so twisted and dark. I just kept thinking through the whole episode that they should just kiss >///< The song was also good.
Nov 26, 2016 5:32 PM

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Hot af, 10/10


He really is hot when upset, but I like Ittoki the best when he's happy! That's one of his best qualities!
That jerk Eiichi just forced Ittoki to embrace a side of him that's full of sadness and dark sorrow.
Hope the Starish gang can get Ittoki to be "himself" again T-T
Nov 26, 2016 5:41 PM

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Well that was a breath of fresh air. I never expected that at all. I mean, I know this season's been focusing on the boys' back stories but I never thought we'd get a broken Otoya out of it. I also actually like Eiichi, he may be an ass but he's not completely terrible. I think he's simply trying to get Otoya to confront himself and his problems head-on... and from it, he'd mature into a (hopefully) better musician. Not really the best method imo, but hey... it's anime... we need some type of antagonist in the show and it just so happens to be Eiichi.

And what a day for the fujoshis, that Eiichi x Otoya was something else lol. Good for them, I suppose. xD I know this is a reverse harem and all, but this season I feel like we're missing the good ol Haruka x [insert love interest here] romantic interactions. A-1 better step up lol, give us more romance.. or at least some fluff 'cause some of us are dying out here D:

Overall, it's a fairly decent episode. Also, three cheers for character development!
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He really is hot when upset, but I like Ittoki the best when he's happy! That's one of his best qualities!
That jerk Eiichi just forced Ittoki to embrace a side of him that's full of sadness and dark sorrow.
Hope the Starish gang can get Ittoki to be "himself" again T-T

I love his carefree and positive attitude as well, probably that's what makes his sudden change of personality even hotter >:D I'm sure that nakama power will change him back in the next episode, but until then I won't mind a few bad boy moments <3
Nov 26, 2016 8:50 PM

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Omg what an episode
Best song a&hhhhh
Nov 26, 2016 8:58 PM

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dude whats up with the evangelion references? that was too obvious
Nov 26, 2016 10:00 PM

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Wow... I did not expect that angst in this episode. They caught my attention at least.

Lol, now I can't choose between mighty aura, lasting oneness, or next door for the best song this season.
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Nov 26, 2016 11:01 PM

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Huh what the heck. Did I just watch Utapri or did I watch a psychological anime??

Definitely a darker episode than usual. And congrats Eiichi, you broke Otoya. Seriously though, the heavier BL elements aside (and why are they cranking that up in this episode, feeling threatened by Yuri on Ice?), it felt a little creepy that Eiichi had a background check done on Otoya, his duet partner. Not, you know, his dating partner or anything.

Actually I can't decide if Eiichi did all that just to make Otoya write better lyrics, because he has to produce 'results' and breaking one member of Starish will definitely affect them, or a combination of the two.

Next episode will surely be interesting to see what happens next; it's not everyday we see a cliffhanger used in Utapri.

Song-wise, I like it, definitely one of my more liked duets so far. Not my favorite but it's not the worst.
Nov 27, 2016 3:10 AM
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Seriously, this episode is so intense. At first I was just feeling normal about Eiichi, but now after he broke otoya, I just hated him. also the duet song is actually better than I expected, also it is also one of my favourite out of all the duet song. even though now i hate Eichii but because of this episode, I feel like shipping them together because of how Eichii hugged ottoya and closing his eyes and everything, its just totally fanservice. Totally unexpected plot for an Utapri episode, excited to see what the other starish members will do to otoya to turn him back. I want my cheerful ottoya back!!!
Nov 27, 2016 10:02 AM

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It was creepy! Hell, not only Eiichi was creepy with his sudden change, it didn't end there. Gee. I'm pretty sure they're going to continue with this next episode. Damn... They destoryed my beloved Otoya :(


Nov 27, 2016 1:39 PM
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All about Otoya!! His eyes... He looked so broken.
Haruka's chance to bring back his smile pls
A different side of him that we've never seen before...
This episode was so. good. Can't wait for next week's episode!!
Nov 27, 2016 2:52 PM
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This episode was so cool! The concept of Eiichi psychologically raping Otoya is messed up but in this in this scenario I like it. Conflict. There r some people that say that Eiichi's actions were reasonable because Otoya needed to move on but I don't really agree. Sure, he should've stopped acting happy but it doesn't mean u have to cause his mind to go to crap. I thought this was one of the best episodes in the series.
Nov 27, 2016 3:38 PM
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I loved this new episode! I wasnt expecting something like this from this series and am truelly astonished! I LOVE it! Alot of people are hating on eiichi for what he did to Otoya, but its healthy for otoya becuase he'd have to face it at some point or else it would one day just become too much for him. Eiichi x Otoya also has now officially become a ship!! I ship it^^ ♡♡♡ eiichi was actually kinder in this ep than in past eps, even going as far as worrying about otoya not eating and telling him to make sure he takes care of himself! I GIVE THIS EP A 10/10!
Nov 27, 2016 11:41 PM

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WHAT DID YOU DO TO OTOYA?!?! EICHII!!! I don't like how the episode ended without making Otoya happy again but I do like the song even when it contrasts Otoya's image of being the happy one.
Nov 28, 2016 7:11 AM
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This episode was amazing. It brought me to tears, more than Masato's episode. It made me think so much. It's like I want to hate Eiichi, but at the same time I feel for him as well because of his dad pressuring him to be the best and not care about growing or maturing more as an artist. But still, the way he brought all those dark memories out of Otoya is just too much. Now Otoya is completely brainwashed into thinking he's got no one with him. Ughhhh! *headdesk* The part where the other STARISH members say they're disappointed in him was heartbreaking... (Yep I got attached to Otoya because of this episode, let me get this out of my system.)

Now I'm aching to find out what happens (why they leave us hanging like this?!) in the next episode... I'm assuming this will affect STARISH in a big way, and HEAVENS will take this as an advantage. Let's wait and see! *silently hopes for that sunshine smile to come back soon*
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That was really dark and a bit disturbing.
Nov 28, 2016 11:54 PM

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WE EVANGELION NOW

that episode was awful though ngl :/ way to ruin best boy
Nov 29, 2016 5:55 PM
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I'm Crying! Its really the s0ng of soul-shaking! My heart still doki2 and i think i cAn feel Otoya's feeling :'( it must be hurt to him. :'(
Eiichi, i d0n't hate you! But i hate what u'hv d0ne to my Otoya >.<
this eps is really intense, i rewatch it again & again. This is the best eps ever the all of series, the s0ng is s0 nice. My favorite s0ng beside Lasting Oneness & Visible Elf.
What hapPen in the next eps? I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS.
Nov 29, 2016 10:03 PM
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Otoya has never been the focal point of an episode. At least not like this. He is one of the least talked about characters and for such a dramatic and dark feeling to come out of him is actually very refreshing. For someone who is the cheerful character out of the group to take such a 360° turn, snapping at people as he did in this episode, making everybody worried about him is my type of style. This has been totally unexpected and my most favored episode of the season so far. I've been anticipating this partnership since the time they were paired together!
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LOL, I like that no one was surprised that Otoya was late for his project meeting... :P

Eiichi had such an intense beginning... LOL, "Do you believe in fate?" xD What a way to begin a conversation...and an interesting way to begin a friendship. This was my first time seeing Otoya intimidated :P

I totally agree with Nagi when he said to Eiichi, "You're creepy when you're in a good mood."

AN ICY PRACTICE ROOM? xD omg...

Reiji noticed how Otoya was too...I like that he approached the STARISH members to discuss it! :)

LOL! I love the chibi characters that surfaced when everyone envisioned Eiichi with a bomb while Otoya is eating xD

"-__________- Should I even be surprised that Eiichi had an investigation report on Otoya?? I don't like that Eiichi dug into Otoya's past without considering how much his feelings could have been damaged. How was he able to say, "You've lost a lot of things. Your father, your mother, the people who raised you, a warm place to belong. Everything you wanted is gone" so calmly??

From the little snip-lets, I'm guessing the woman with braided hair and who patted Otoya's head on a hospital bed is his mother. But ever since he was little, he lost his family and all he could do was watch others (e.g. a woman (mother) holding hands with two kids (her children) home from school)...or wait for his own mother on the swing. Otoya wanted to belong somewhere. The sunflowers must represent a joyful period of his life. He experienced a funeral alone - his mother's. After that funeral, his memories of the sunflower field reminded him of his mother and momentarily forgot about them.

It was scary to see Otoya's internal struggle... The responses he pictured when he no longer smiled...it was scary :( That gaze from Otoya at the end was haunting!! ><
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Apr 21, 2017 10:22 PM

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uta getting a plot? this is sudden lol. but the ending was so bad lol. so he's just forever bad?
May 17, 2017 4:00 PM
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Was totally not expecting this from Utapri!!! Otoya is my favourite character and I love that they managed to dive deep into his psyche and not just have him as the group's cheerleader. Fanservice is to be appreciated like always but honestly this entire episode caught me off guard. Will definitely be going back to it XD
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Ok, this is the very first time in this entire series where I went, "No! My baby!" towards any of the characters.

I just want to hug Otoya and make him feel better. Poor baby =(

Eiichi is such a bully and I really wanted to punch him. That bastard.

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