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Will you be happy if the majority of the anime consumers stop using their dicks to think?
Sep 2, 2016 12:20 AM
#1
| Just a random thought. I'm basing this on the consumer-centered BDs and DVDs market in Japan. It seems logical that the meta is highly subject to the consumers' taste. And if sex appeal does not work, then Yuri + Fujoshit + Moeblob + ecchi shows will be kicked outta the meta. And fanservice is what most of the Mal users look down on, so people here will be happier, right? KAPPA~ By the way, I think I will be happy, cuz ecchi shows now for me are just for lols and I can see myself growing VERY desensitized to everything they can offer. |
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Sep 2, 2016 12:24 AM
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Sep 2, 2016 12:28 AM
#3
tr1ckst3r said: And when did "Ecchi show is an easy-grab money" mindset become a trend? Do you even know how many heavy or just mild ecchi show flop each season? a shit ton. The only ecchi anime that survive in the industry and actually make some money can be counted with one hand. Good point. I should have used Moe + Yuri + Fujoshi + Ecchi instead of just ecchi. Since they all fall into the "Sex appeal" category. Gotta edit the post. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:33 AM
#4
| Although this is clearly bait I guess I'll bite Consumers have been thinking with their dicks since advertising became a practice, it's not about to stop anytime soon and I wouldn't be happy if it did. Also how does moe get brought up here? That's pretty much cute being cute, not cute being sexy. It's not focused on sex appeal like at all. I mean you might as well be stating "man the Japanese must really want to bang those thousands of mascots that were designed to be cute" |
Sep 2, 2016 12:34 AM
#5
| Not really. As I myself is a self confessed ecchi anime connoisseur. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:35 AM
#6
| I'd really go for some fluffy pizza right about, anon. Want to go out? |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
Sep 2, 2016 12:37 AM
#7
| lmao, yuri and ecchi anime don't even do that well in japan. and i'm sure most fans who "use their dick to think" don't watch "fujoshit" shows. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:42 AM
#8
silverwalls said: lmao, yuri and ecchi anime don't even do that well in japan. and i'm sure most fans who "use their dick to think" don't watch "fujoshit" shows. Pretty sure High school Fleet, High school DxD, Kantai Colle did well enough to make profit. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:43 AM
#9
Mathwizard said: But those show also didn't guaranteed an easy money.tr1ckst3r said: And when did "Ecchi show is an easy-grab money" mindset become a trend? Do you even know how many heavy or just mild ecchi show flop each season? a shit ton. The only ecchi anime that survive in the industry and actually make some money can be counted with one hand. Good point. I should have used Moe + Yuri + Fujoshi + Ecchi instead of just ecchi. Since they all fall into the "Sex appeal" category. Gotta edit the post. A lot of fujoshi bait yaoi show flopped, and so does Yuri shows, heck even more so for a moe show. Sex appeal rarely guaranteed an easy money in japan. THe only trope that can guarantee an easy money is Idol show and Loli CGDCT type of show. but even those shows can failed sometimes. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:44 AM
#10
| No, if everyone started thinking logically about all anime, the industry right now will not be as big as it is. The industry needs to have the Call of Duty esque content in their system to enable it to make money. And the easiest way to earn money in anime is the waifus. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:49 AM
#11
tr1ckst3r said: Mathwizard said: But those show also didn't guaranteed an easy money.tr1ckst3r said: And when did "Ecchi show is an easy-grab money" mindset become a trend? Do you even know how many heavy or just mild ecchi show flop each season? a shit ton. The only ecchi anime that survive in the industry and actually make some money can be counted with one hand. Good point. I should have used Moe + Yuri + Fujoshi + Ecchi instead of just ecchi. Since they all fall into the "Sex appeal" category. Gotta edit the post. A lot of fujoshi bait yaoi show flopped, and so does Yuri shows, heck even more so for a moe show. Sex appeal rarely guaranteed an easy money in japan. THe only trope that can guarantee an easy money is Idol show and Loli CGDCT type of show. but even those shows can failed sometimes. You know what? I just realized whether they sell well or not is not the point; the point is if consumers dont buy the idea of these shows anymore, are you happy about the consequence of that? |
Sep 2, 2016 12:51 AM
#12
Mathwizard said: And what the hell does doesn't buy the idea even mean? tr1ckst3r said: Mathwizard said: tr1ckst3r said: And when did "Ecchi show is an easy-grab money" mindset become a trend? Do you even know how many heavy or just mild ecchi show flop each season? a shit ton. The only ecchi anime that survive in the industry and actually make some money can be counted with one hand. Good point. I should have used Moe + Yuri + Fujoshi + Ecchi instead of just ecchi. Since they all fall into the "Sex appeal" category. Gotta edit the post. A lot of fujoshi bait yaoi show flopped, and so does Yuri shows, heck even more so for a moe show. Sex appeal rarely guaranteed an easy money in japan. THe only trope that can guarantee an easy money is Idol show and Loli CGDCT type of show. but even those shows can failed sometimes. You know what? I just realized whether they sell well or not is not the point; the point is if consumers dont buy the idea of these shows anymore, are you happy about the consequence of that? The fact that it's rarely sell well is enough proof that those kind of show didn't sit well with most of the consumers. |
Sep 2, 2016 12:54 AM
#13
tr1ckst3r said: Mathwizard said: And what the hell does doesn't buy the idea even mean? tr1ckst3r said: Mathwizard said: But those show also didn't guaranteed an easy money.tr1ckst3r said: And when did "Ecchi show is an easy-grab money" mindset become a trend? Do you even know how many heavy or just mild ecchi show flop each season? a shit ton. The only ecchi anime that survive in the industry and actually make some money can be counted with one hand. Good point. I should have used Moe + Yuri + Fujoshi + Ecchi instead of just ecchi. Since they all fall into the "Sex appeal" category. Gotta edit the post. A lot of fujoshi bait yaoi show flopped, and so does Yuri shows, heck even more so for a moe show. Sex appeal rarely guaranteed an easy money in japan. THe only trope that can guarantee an easy money is Idol show and Loli CGDCT type of show. but even those shows can failed sometimes. You know what? I just realized whether they sell well or not is not the point; the point is if consumers dont buy the idea of these shows anymore, are you happy about the consequence of that? The fact that it's rarely sell well is enough proof that those kind of show didn't sit well with most of the consumers. It simply means they are not sold on the idea LMAO. You havent mentioned not even ocne about your stand on that tho. So willl you be happy or not? Yes or No? |
Sep 2, 2016 12:57 AM
#14
| yeah. that'd be pretty nice. i'm not saying to completely halt the production of using sexual subject matter in shows like i'm totally fine with sexual themes but like, don't make it the main component. but yeah this is all just me; if one were to stop all this ecchi shit then the industry for sure wouldn't be as successful. |
Sep 2, 2016 1:05 AM
#15
Elegade said: No, if everyone started thinking logically about all anime, the industry right now will not be as big as it is. The industry needs to have the Call of Duty esque content in their system to enable it to make money. And the easiest way to earn money in anime is the waifus. but waifus earning $ can only happen if consumers think with their dicks tho. What if they suddenly dont? Of course, realisitically the what-if wont ever happen in a forseeable future, so I think you are right. |
Sep 2, 2016 1:12 AM
#16
| You have the 2 main girls of re:zero as avatar + signature, you have no power here, lel. OT: no, then i had to waste even more time |
Sep 2, 2016 1:13 AM
#17
| Yeah let`s remove all the anime that contain fanservice and only produce intellectually challenging anime that deepen our concepts of life and the universe. I`ll give this industry 5 years till it dies. "Sex sells" is a common saying in most entertainment mediums and removing it would be like cutting your credit card in half and sliding it up your ass. |
Sep 2, 2016 2:34 AM
#18
Idiots_on_MAL said: tbh fam many intelectually challenging(tm) anime have moe or sexy girl..Yeah let`s remove all the anime that contain fanservice and only produce intellectually challenging anime that deepen our concepts of life and the universe. I`ll give this industry 5 years till it dies. "Sex sells" is a common saying in most entertainment mediums and removing it would be like cutting your credit card in half and sliding it up your ass. |
Sep 2, 2016 3:12 AM
#19
| Well tbh... Ahem... NOPE!! lets be honest, such fanservice is not a problem in a show, everything else is mostly to blame when a show fails. Are there any series that got ruined only because of fanservice? I don't think so |
Sep 2, 2016 3:16 AM
#20
Bourmegar said: i heard say ngnl would have been better without itWell tbh... Ahem... NOPE!! lets be honest, such fanservice is not a problem in a show, everything else is mostly to blame when a show fails. Are there any series that got ruined only because of fanservice? I don't think so |
Sep 2, 2016 3:19 AM
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Sep 2, 2016 3:26 AM
#22
| Most people wouldn't be because most people implicitly like fanservice because they can bitch about it. You have to consider that even if all fanservicey/"moe" elements were removed from anime, it's not like every single anime writer and/or director would suddenly attain a degree in philosophy, you would still get lots of dumb, campy shows made only to fill profit margins, it's just that they would have to be about different subject matters. And a lot of the "smart" fiction througout history have had very sexual themes. For example, most of Shakespeare's plays have sexual themes and even "I fucked your mum" jokes, despite this Shakespeare is still arguably the most highly-regarded playwright in history. What I'm trying to say is that you can use both your dick AND brain to think. |
Sep 2, 2016 3:33 AM
#23
sjo said: I'd really go for some fluffy pizza right about, anon. Want to go out? I like it more italian not american style, so less fluffy but more crunchy. This topic is easy and has been talked about hundreds(if only) of times, but the only answer is: Anpan |
Oshii is probably the only director that loves dogs. He thinks he's a dog himself. That's right, its slime! It will dissolve your clothing slowly before my eyes! |
Sep 2, 2016 3:35 AM
#24
| Just to make sure... yep, the favorites are full of harem, gamer anime and the flavor of the month. |
Sep 2, 2016 4:03 AM
#25
| If they did, something else would take its place and people would complain about the same they complain about ecchi and fanservice. |
Sep 2, 2016 5:04 AM
#26
| Nah, ecchi is what sells figures. That's where the real money comes from. If that kind of anime isn't your thing don't watch it. There are plenty of great anime that don't have excessive fan service. Also, don't think that anime is the only medium where this happens. It's prevalent in most media, from ads, boobs in the thumbnail and pretty much any sort of western TV. Sex sells. Get over it. |
Sep 2, 2016 5:10 AM
#27
| Since when did those genre's ever do well? The One's that are successful in that genre are just a handful.Lets just face Its ecchi for a reason and If they don't use their strong points and that's diverting thinking from the brain down to your DICK,They wouldn't even sell. |
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Sep 2, 2016 5:29 AM
#28
| I probably wouldn't mind it. Mathwizard said: Do you realize Re:Zero is in the same category of fans that think with their dick for a good part?By the way, I think I will be happy, cuz ecchi shows now for me are just for lols and I can see myself growing VERY desensitized to everything they can offer. |
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Sep 2, 2016 5:35 AM
#29
black1blade said: Don't watch bad shows with elements you don't like. Lol, nope. Shows have multiple elements. If the other elements can make up for it then it's fine. That said, there are some elements that people simply refuse to watch, and even I am guilty of this since I refuse to watch yaoi lol |
Sep 2, 2016 5:36 AM
#30
| Even by MAL standards this is one of the shittiest topics I've read. |
Sep 2, 2016 5:42 AM
#31
| I don't think the majority of MAL users look down on fanservice. They look down on shitty shows that have no substance other than fanservice. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
Sep 2, 2016 7:48 AM
#32
| Yes I would be happy. Much happy. But it won't happen and I'm not unhappy about that either. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Sep 2, 2016 8:02 AM
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Sep 2, 2016 8:09 AM
#34
Sep 2, 2016 10:13 AM
#35
| Not sure how is that gonna affect how good an anime is,so no. Different genres of anime are made for different purposes,an anime that manages to complete what they intended is a good anime. |
Sep 2, 2016 6:41 PM
#36
Dishonest said: sjo said: I'd really go for some fluffy pizza right about, anon. Want to go out? I like it more italian not american style, so less fluffy but more crunchy. This topic is easy and has been talked about hundreds(if only) of times, but the only answer is: Anpan I don't think I've ever eaten anpan, but now I plan to. |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
Sep 2, 2016 6:43 PM
#37
ichii_1 said: No, they should stop thinking with their vaginas. Women and gays are the ones ruining anime, "OMG SHE HAS BOOBS" I sort of agree in the sense that I really don't like sensitive sjw's (luckily, Japan doesn't have those) and I also don't like all the fujoshi pandering that takes up space. However, I do think that making a character's only characteristic big tits should be a no. |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
Sep 2, 2016 7:35 PM
#38
| I prefer to support idol anime along with really cute SoL. Idols make me feel good (it is the industry irl that pisses me off, it's one of the few industries where only the business side of things is exclusively bad), and it's best to support what makes you feel good. |
Sep 2, 2016 7:52 PM
#39
Sep 2, 2016 8:44 PM
#40
| You can become desensitized to anything, not just ecchi, if you watch it too much. This is why it's best to alternate between genres. |
Sep 2, 2016 11:55 PM
#41
| Another anti-sexuality thread. I summon @EcchiLordMamster ! 1) Sexuality is an integral part of humanity. Abandoning it risks species-wide extinction. 2) Alternative approach to sexuality has always been one of the strong points of anime. That's a good thing and worth keeping. 3) I enjoy moe ecchi yuri anime a whole lot. I would not be happy if you take it away from me. |
Sep 3, 2016 12:03 AM
#42
| I guess I would have to stop watching seasonals if that happened. I mean, that would be fine since there's still plenty of great anime that has already aired, but it would still be a bit shitty if no more moe anime aired. A good 25% of MAL users are fans of those things and another 70% don't really give a shit so I'm sure this wouldn't been seen as a positive thing by too many people. |
Sep 3, 2016 12:04 AM
#43
| No because we need these thirsty weebs to buy the expensive anime merchandise to justify the anime industry pumping out all these moeblob and ecchi shows. I'd rather a genre of anime I don't like sell well rather than nothing sell well and the whole industry just dies. In an ideal world, I'd like merchandise from anime like 91 Days and Gungrave to sell well but beggars can't be choosers. |
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Sep 3, 2016 1:22 AM
#44
flannan said: Another anti-sexuality thread. I summon @EcchiLordMamster ! 1) Sexuality is an integral part of humanity. Abandoning it risks species-wide extinction. 2) Alternative approach to sexuality has always been one of the strong points of anime. That's a good thing and worth keeping. 3) I enjoy moe ecchi yuri anime a whole lot. I would not be happy if you take it away from me. 1) but the form of sexuality portrayed in anime is one of the reasons why people are abandoning it in real life |
Oshii is probably the only director that loves dogs. He thinks he's a dog himself. That's right, its slime! It will dissolve your clothing slowly before my eyes! |
Sep 3, 2016 1:57 AM
#45
flannan said: Another anti-sexuality thread. I summon @EcchiLordMamster ! 1) Sexuality is an integral part of humanity. Abandoning it risks species-wide extinction. 2) Alternative approach to sexuality has always been one of the strong points of anime. That's a good thing and worth keeping. 3) I enjoy moe ecchi yuri anime a whole lot. I would not be happy if you take it away from me. Allow me to add a 4th point to it. 4) Removing it won't make a show better. Giving it a better story and characters however will make a show better. |
Sep 3, 2016 2:08 AM
#46
| I guess I would be. I'd be thrilled if there were more Tatami Galaxy's, but most people aren't capable of writing on that level. It's not like I want to see it disappear either, since I like some fanservicey shows. Would I love it if characters had to have value beyond sex appeal? absolutely. Do I think sex appeal is an easy way to write shitty characters? honestly, yes, but there are bigger problems here. I don't think those random ecchi seasonals I watch one episode of are shit because of tits, they're shit for other reasons, and if hey could be good and have tits at the same time I wouldn't complain... well, maybe, There's a lot of instances where I really hate fan service but it's almost always in shows I hate anyways. |
Sep 3, 2016 2:17 AM
#47
| Why would I care if people have dicks for brains. let them cum out of their ears and just don't watch shows that pander toward them. These guys are the dedicated public anime needs to flourish, with them buying eromanga and figurines etc. It's not even just anime doing this, literally every story telling medium thinks it's necessary to add sexual content - music, novels, movies... If you want anime to stop using fanservice you need to destroy the core of fanservice - straight people/boys. I'd say gay people too, but they don't really have much pandering toward them at all, so. Illegalising sexuality as a whole would be your best bet. I'd say just not to bother with stuff like this my dude, it's not gonna happen. |
Sep 3, 2016 2:23 AM
#48
| I don't give a shit what they think with, if they watch anime to jerk off no problem they can go ahead and do it. |
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Sep 3, 2016 2:24 AM
#49
| "Will you be happy if the majority of the anime consumers stop using their dicks to think?" Hell, yes! Do you have any idea how AWKWARD it is sharing an Anime section with a guy, his fly unzipped, slouched over a rack of DVDs and Blu-Rays, sorting through titles with his womb raider? I won't go there without rubber gloves now! |
| Mrs. Landingham, what's next? |
Sep 3, 2016 2:28 AM
#50
Dishonest said: flannan said: Another anti-sexuality thread. I summon @EcchiLordMamster ! 1) Sexuality is an integral part of humanity. Abandoning it risks species-wide extinction. 2) Alternative approach to sexuality has always been one of the strong points of anime. That's a good thing and worth keeping. 3) I enjoy moe ecchi yuri anime a whole lot. I would not be happy if you take it away from me. 1) but the form of sexuality portrayed in anime is one of the reasons why people are abandoning it in real life I don't quite understand what do you mean. Do you mean to say anime girls are so sexy people don't look at 3D women any more, and birth rate drops? That's an exaggeration for sure. Some anime fans I know IRL have married some time after they became anime fans. |
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