Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Jagd84 said: Paul said: Seems unlikely that a 'master swordsman' would flee from battle let alone the whale letting her escape. Unless the anime decides to go into explanation or someone can actually explain it via source from the LN, it'll stay a plothole in my eyes. Who said she fled or anything? To begin with the White Whale is just a monster that attacks mainly on instinct, wouldn't care or distinguish one human from another so this logic doesn't follow. And plot holes don't work like that nor would there be on this obvious. The point you supposed to theory on this not look for an excuse to shut you brain off. The guy I quoted before stated she could have died after getting injured. That's why I said flee, unless Wilhelm was fighting with her to bring her body back after she died, which in that case he's the one who would have fled. |
Raven_Wingz said: Oh, yeah somehow Crusch didn't know Sub was lying about his magical flip phone, I guess the wind fails sometimes. Maybe he farted and broke it. No, actually it's because he technically wasn't lying. |
| My boy Barusu went full LEEEROOOOOOY JEEEEENKINSSSS! Oh and FUCK YOU WHAAALE! |
Jagd84 said: I am not looking for faults here but discussing against the praise the show gets for being realistic, especially Subaru. Not being realistic is not a flaw. Do you think Subaru is realistic?zal said: ]However it can't be realistic. What he has been through is not realistic so what happens as consequence is unlikely realistic. The events and Subaru's character could be believable or plausible but I don't see how they are realistic. In reality you can't die repeatedly and go back in time. Subaru's character development (despite good or bad, liked or disliked) is just the author's imagination, speculation. It is not unrealistic just because it is fiction but because the context is not realistic and it doesn't really. Some parts are indeed quite realistic however the core concept of the show is not. When trying to discuss this issue some go like "Do you know how it feels to die repeatedly and see your friends forget about you? Poor Subaru" or something like that. No, I don't know what he is going through but neither do you nor the author simply because it is not something that we can experience because it is not something realistic. I could see Subaru's condition as realistic if it was actually used as social commentary and got deeper into the issue but he didn't because that's not the point of the show. It is mere melodrama. *sigh* It seems you're gonna still make can objective claim on something you know nothing about, instead just admitting it dropping the subject. You're talking from your own preferences and not any experience so you can say what is realistic or not. You can state if you liked it, but beyond that us just hollow ignorance that any professional would who studies these fields. I'm no expert either, but I have enough common sense act like I know, and just feelings on matter. Certainly avoid absolute terms like realistic. You're looks for faults regardless if the make sense or not. |
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Rehls said: @ouriel He's not fully accepted it. And at the time, he wanted to improve his own opinion about himself, after his separation from Emilia. And he didn't expect the problem to be so much above what he could handle. He should've felt confident after successfully dealing with the village issue. And he wasn't certain that he could get help--he hadn't what to bargain with. Ok, I can accept this, but it still felt like a stagnation to me, tho, you're right, he should've been more confident after dealing with the shaman and that he had help from others, altho the problem this time, as you said it's bigger and didn't know if he's got anyone to bargain with. However after ep. 15 he had and especially after ep. 16, tho I can accept that he is or was under ASD and his judgement was clouded, but after that he could've recuperate and ep. 18 dialogue could've been shorten to implement other important story bits. :) @Jagd84 His emotional breakdown when he was lying in Emilia's lap said how weak he is and how he needs to rely on others for help in order to resolve the problems that he's facing, and that's what's recurring from ep. 15. I think you're missing my point, or we're both misinterpreting what we're trying to say, to put it simply, Subaru had a conclusion that he needs to rely on others and the same thing happened in ep. 18, with an exception that he might've need to be reaffirmed that he's not alone and that he has help. And I'm putting an stop to this discussion because we'll run in circles and there's no need for that. |
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Paul said: The guy I quoted before stated she could have died after getting injured. That's why I said flee, unless Wilhelm was fighting with her to bring her body back after she died, which in that case he's the one who would have fled. I agree that is unlikely that Sword Saint would have fled, but it certainly wouldn't be for those reasons at least. That guy was just throwing ideas out there. Not confirming anything. I'm not join in the speculation myself of course I know the answer, but want to make at least clear that this actually intentional. |
zal said: I am not looking for faults here but discussing against the praise the show gets for being realistic, especially Subaru. Not being realistic is not a flaw. Do you think Subaru is realistic? You haven't proved why he's reactions isn't realistic, at least in that moment or in general, because you don't have sufficient support to do so. You can only speak on your feelings and agree and to disagree who aren't on your side at this point then. So there no point pushing this argument. |
Raven_Wingz said: Oh, yeah somehow Crusch didn't know Sub was lying about his magical flip phone, I guess the wind fails sometimes. Maybe he farted and broke it. or maybe, Subaru using the phone as an 'Alarm' doesn't count as lie when he told her he uses it to find la whale? |
| Only took 19 episodes lol. Let's take down that whale! |
| There are people who hate this anime so much and yet they keep watching it and they keep coming here, episode after episode, to rant endlessly about all the supposed flaws it has, they try so much to make it seem like a bad anime, i get that not everyone has to like it, but going into every episode discussion, just to spread hate about an anime is retarded and pathetic. Anyway, this episode was great, they kinda ignored a little bit of dialog between Rem and Subaru, but I get it, the time constraints can be a pain in the ass. I LOVED the way the ringtone showed that sense of tension, of not knowing if the Whale was coming or not, the real deal will be next episode, this is still AOTS for me and possibly AOTY if it stays true to the light novel until the end. |
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| Some people still doesn't know the meaning of episode 18 after watching this episode. |
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| Some guys on reddit pointed out what was written in the huge tree. |
Yupetro said: So i had a question: Doesnt the whale erase existences of those he kills? If thats the case then how does Wilhelm remember his wife? Thoughts? LN reader here, it'll be explained in the coming eps, there's a reason for everything my friend :) |
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| a breath of fresh air episode. I'm hyped for the battle And again felt like it went by in 5 minutes xD |
Jagd84 said: Because the fact that the origin of everything (time resets) not being realistic is not enough as proof? If the cause is not realistic how can the consequence be realistic?zal said: I am not looking for faults here but discussing against the praise the show gets for being realistic, especially Subaru. Not being realistic is not a flaw. Do you think Subaru is realistic? You haven't proved why he's reactions isn't realistic, at least in that moment or in general, because you don't have sufficient support to do so. You can only speak on your feelings and agree and to disagree who aren't on your side at this point then. So there no point pushing this argument. Buck_Wade said: Ok.zal said: I am not looking for faults here but discussing against the praise the show gets for being realistic, especially Subaru. Not being realistic is not a flaw. Do you think Subaru is realistic? I think he is realistic! |
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| What an awesome episode. Subaru seems to be going on the right path now and has become a new man, we're proud of you Subaru! And man, the build up with the whale was epic. I loved how they set up the atmosphere of how everyone in that town had some deep grudges with the whale. And the build up to the moment of the whale's reveal was awesome! That ringtone was the right touch. And Rem is still da best. Smudy said: From Reddit: ''According to Tappei's twitter(the author), the staff put a lot of effort into the ringtone. They argued a lot about the choice of ringtone before deciding which one to use. They even went to search for a handphone model similar to Subaru's, composed the ringtone melody on it, then brought the phone to the studio and recorded the ringtone by placing it at the mic, then finally put it in the episode.'' Wow, I love the amount of detail they put in this show! They worked very hard on the music in general. |
| How did Subaru have the mining rights?.. Did I miss something.. |
| -The negotiations was a bit rushed but I'm fine with that. I don't want to watch them sit there for a long time haha. -Glad to see Subaru not be in despair mode for now. With last episode, other than the ship sailing for Rem, people won't give him too much shit anymore. He recognizes he's next to worthless in this world and he isn't very smart. However he will use the information he gains from his past lives to his advantage. So people bitching about him being weak or stupid, Subaru agrees with you. Now we can move on and see what he does next. -Mimi is so adorable. Can't wait to see what she can do. -Crusch looks badass in her armor, I also can't wait to see her fight. Out of all the candidates, she is by far the coolest on looks alone. -Rem is awesome and so is that Ground Dragon. -Glad to see other characters get their moment in the spotlight like Willhelm. Very interested in this character and his family. Well, this is more of the calm before the storm episode, but the all out war against the White Whale is finally here. Depending on how quickly this battle goes, we may even see part of Volume 8. I'm pretty sure they're not gonna spend 4+ episodes on the whale alone so I'm stoked to see some of volume 8 being adapted. |
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Shrimperor said: Raven_Wingz said: Oh, yeah somehow Crusch didn't know Sub was lying about his magical flip phone, I guess the wind fails sometimes. Maybe he farted and broke it. or maybe, Subaru using the phone as an 'Alarm' doesn't count as lie when he told her he uses it to find la whale? There was a flashback that showed Subaru drop it open when the whale appeared and it showed the time. The phone would show the time it would appear. I guess Crusch had a hard time believing him because he half lied. The phone would tell him when but not where. Only he knew that. |
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Heitokun said: Anyway, this episode was great, they kinda ignored a little bit of dialog between Rem and Subaru, but I get it, the time constraints can be a pain in the ass. I'm just curious, what were some of the things they cut out? Was the dialog vital in any way? |
| A lot of the complaints seem like they all forgot what happened last week. This episode felt really fast. Great how he united Anastasia's and Crusch's companies. Rem continues to be the waifu Subaru doesn't deserve. The ringtone usage at the end was ingenious and made the White Whale's appearance much more creepy. What I love about this episode the most is Subaru and Rem getting first blood with the whale and Crusch signaling the companies to follow the "2 fools" into battle. |
| I like Crusch more than Emilia or Rem tbh anyway, this episode is great, esp the ending hhhhnnnggg |
| This episode was amazing, though it passed by waaay too fast. I felt like it lasted only a minute or two. I like how Subaru has changed and become a stronger person. Also, he's learned to negotiate instead of wallowing in his own despair and screaming for help. Rem and Subaru have gotten closer. I really like how the dragon, which is supposed to be extremely prideful, had an instant connection with Subaru because they had met in one of Subaru's "past lives". That was interesting. The end of the episode made me really excited for the battle. However, at first, I was worried that the white whale wouldn't exactly show up and everybody would turn on Subaru. I'm glad with how the episode ended! |
| About halfway through the episode when the 2 royal families were gathering people to fight, i started to fear "uh oh what if the white whale doesnt appear this time loop... then all those people are gonna be pissed and Subaru's ass will over the fire..." So im glad it did finally show up at the end of Subaru's cutesy ringtone. |
~my list
| Bullshit after bullshit. I guess I should've expected that. |
Linkmstr said: Necromia said: There was a flashback that showed Subaru drop it open when the whale appeared and it showed the time. The phone would show the time it would appear. I guess Crusch had a hard time believing him because he half lied. The phone would tell him when but not where. Only he knew that. Technically, he also knows where. I mean, when he was riding on the carriage with Otto in the previous loop, he noticed the flugel tree off in the distance and the White Whale happened to be around that area as they were trotting along. Of course he knows where.. His phone doesn't so he still lied about his phone revealing where. |
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EdHaku said: Bullshit after bullshit. I guess I should've expected that. Drop it now then. It will make you happier ! 100% Guaranteed ! |
| FINALLY. Looks like Subaru has finally matured and has learned how to continue to make the most of his Return By Death ability. The ringtone with the whale coming towards them was pretty haunting actually. Reminded me a little bit of Ace Attorney. |
| Subaru sure as hell got a insane boost of confidence this week look at him using all those deaths to play all the right cards. with everything working out for once i couldn't not help but think what if it doesn't show up?.. |
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