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Jun 18, 2016 9:44 AM

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zal said:
Since it contains gore it is rated as 17+ but that doesn't mean it isn't a shounen. I think its main demographic are still teenagers/young boys.

That's why I always say that manga demographics don't fit for TV. TV demographics are: for children, teenagers (daytime shows that aren't for little kids), male otaku and female otaku (all fujoshows) and "omnipandering".
hyperknees91 said:
If there's no training arc it aint no shounen.

Heh, Aria is shounen and there is training for gondolier so it finally makes sense.
Jun 18, 2016 9:51 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
zal said:
Since it contains gore it is rated as 17+ but that doesn't mean it isn't a shounen. I think its main demographic are still teenagers/young boys.


If there's no training arc it aint no shounen.
It seems you have forgotten the day Ikoma spent being beaten by Mumei. It was a short training arc but after that he was able to easily beat a Wazatori.
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Jun 18, 2016 10:05 AM

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Daw11 said:
Why did Takumi stood in front of Ikoma when he already saw him survive a bullet with no consequences?
This is just bad writing.
Bilba should have just shoot Takumi to make Ikoma mad, there was no point in having him protecting Ikoma.

even better in the previous scene takumi was like 2 feet behind ikoma, then suddenly he got in front of him , like he was a ninja.

I mean if he was right beside him it would be plausible for that to happen, but teleporting in front of him is ridiculous.

I also don't get ikoma kabaneri powers: He touches a piping hot steam pipe and doesn't feel a thing but getting kicked makes him feel excruciating pain. Isn't his body supposed to be tougher than a normal human?

This anime derailling so fast that calling this attack on trainwreck is turning into a n understatement



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Jun 18, 2016 10:43 AM

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zal said:
hyperknees91 said:


If there's no training arc it aint no shounen.
It seems you have forgotten the day Ikoma spent being beaten by Mumei. It was a short training arc but after that he was able to easily beat a Wazatori.


That's not an arc. That literally happened in 10 minutes. The Kabaneri don't even need to really train because they learn quickly.

Anyway it was more just a joke. Kabeneri is much more of an action show than a shounen. Another feature lacking is the lack of any internal monologue during fights.

>Heh, Aria is shounen and there is training for gondolier so it finally makes sense.

Well it could have been if you added competition and emphasis on learning new rowing techniques yeah xD
Jun 18, 2016 10:44 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
zal said:
It seems you have forgotten the day Ikoma spent being beaten by Mumei. It was a short training arc but after that he was able to easily beat a Wazatori.


That's not an arc. That literally happened in 10 minutes. The Kabaneri don't even need to really train because they learn quickly.

Anyway it was more just a joke. Kabeneri is much more of an action show than a shounen. Another feature lacking is the lack of any internal monologue during fights.
I know it was a joke and so was mine, kinda. However don't confuse shounen with battle shounen.
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Jun 18, 2016 11:06 AM

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. [/quote]I know it was a joke and so was mine, kinda. However don't confuse shounen with battle shounen.[/quote]

Is there any action shounen that's not sports or battles?
Jun 18, 2016 11:22 AM

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Welp, the show really jumped the shark in this last act. Can't say I'm surprised but it's still disappointing after the incredibly entertaining first half.
Jun 18, 2016 11:39 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
Is there any action shounen that's not sports or battles?
GTO, Bakuman and others especially if you look into the manga list: Nisekoi, Death note, Shokugeki no Souma, welcome to the NHK, Fuuka.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:22 PM

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Takumi was a true bro till the end. It's a shame he died.

Also, I'm getting real tired of seeing Ikoma getting his ass kicked like every episode.
Jun 18, 2016 12:54 PM

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Yeah, this has become trash. A serum that makes mumei become fully obedient, the whole of Biba's character, Takumi's talk about eating rice with everyone... That's atrocious writing right and it makes scenes like the last one which could have been powerful simply laughable. The music's the only good thing left (and some nice shots I guess).
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Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Jun 18, 2016 1:18 PM

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Okay. Main hero is dead. We can end this anime now, before some nakama bullshit will resurrect him.
Jun 18, 2016 1:27 PM

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Ow, I knew that something would happen to Takumi. He was raising so many flags D:
I kinda liked him, not that much to feel really sad, but.
I thought that Ikoma would kill at least someone before facing Mumei. Two or three extras, but no.
I just watching it right now, not really enjoying much. Not hating it either. It is just meh to me :( (TO ME IF YOU ENJOY I'M HAPPY FOR U BRO)

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Jun 18, 2016 2:41 PM

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First off: fuck you, Biba. No one messed with my baby Takumi and get out alive.

So now they're taking blood from everyone to feed the Kabane? Wow, what an evil idea. And of course, let's chop one or two arms off for no reason, because we need to establish that WE are the villain here. Great thinking.

Last but not the least: fuck you, Biba. No one have a gorgeous, long pinky hair combined with long eyeslashes as a villain and get out unscratched.
Jun 18, 2016 2:41 PM

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Ragna92 said:
So pissed off while wathcing this episode...

Only two more episodes left. Where is this show going.

I's going down the sewers drain.
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Jun 18, 2016 2:50 PM

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Well uhh... Was there any reason for that fat guy to die like that??

Why am I even watching this lol.
Jun 18, 2016 3:58 PM

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Biba ruined this anime.
Jun 18, 2016 4:02 PM

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The MC is dead, if it is suposed to be, let's see how the power of plot armor surprises us this time.
Jun 18, 2016 5:55 PM

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RIP Takumi... T_T
Someone should stop Biba...
Actually, Mumei has a chance to save them, She can lie to Biba and take that knife before she drugged... But I think Biba will see that coming...
wonder when Kurusu comes back...
Jun 18, 2016 6:14 PM

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holy shit, Ikoma actually didn't yell at one point in this episode.
Jun 18, 2016 7:01 PM

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error5000 said:
The MC is dead, if it is suposed to be, let's see how the power of plot armor surprises us this time.


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy
Jun 18, 2016 7:02 PM

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Riveon said:
Okay. Main hero is dead. We can end this anime now, before some nakama bullshit will resurrect him.


He is not dead. He is a Kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the fucking heart. There is no nakama bullshit involved in his likely survival. Did you not watch this episode with your eyes open?
Jun 18, 2016 7:19 PM

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While I've been generally unimpressed with this show lately, this was a pretty good episode. I feel like the middle portion of the show mulled around a bit too much and didn't leave enough room at the end to fully develop the hunters and Biba as interesting villains. I still love the old-fashioned character designs. The facial features look straight out of a late-80s anime sometimes and it looks really refreshing.
Jun 18, 2016 7:22 PM
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"Oh no, Is the MC died ?"
It's just a RUSE, right ?
When you thing this can't be more cliche.
Jun 18, 2016 8:42 PM

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Holy fucking shit, they went too far with the shock factor.....

The execution was really awkward throughout the episode regardless of what happened.

Things were going fine before that dick-face Biba showed up.
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Jun 18, 2016 9:03 PM

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bastek66 said:
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Yes you are correct, the word "Shounen" is actually a demographic but is also considered as a general genre in anime. I should have said "Shounen anime" or "Shounen-anime" to be more clear on my intention. My bad dude...I should not have used it as a single word cause a few people will have difficulty understandig.

Well as your a fellow member of MAL, what I was referring to was the genre being displayed at the left corner under Information where they sometimes put the word shounen type of shounen. For ex. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/27/Shounen

It's still not shounen anime. It's not for young boys beacuse it airs late night and contains gore.


Haha....Shingeki no Kyojin is labeled Shounen....waaaay brutal plot and gore so I guess this anime is actually less than Shounen.....I can see why a lot of people complain.
Jun 18, 2016 9:04 PM
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Wow what an intense episode! Tukumi is dead ); damn I liked him! What a huge cliffhanger! So can't wait for next 2 episodes!'n
Jun 18, 2016 9:21 PM

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Ikoma looks like he could use a hand out there.
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Jun 18, 2016 9:34 PM

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So-Intense said:
Ikoma looks like he could use a hand out there.


He already used one tho...why use the other? Those things are quite expensive...
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Jun 18, 2016 10:06 PM

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Mumei went from being awesome to being the fucking worse. She basically caused chaos because she trusts her brother over everyone else.

Also apparently Mumei and Ikoma grew weaker because they were easily taken down by the blond guy. Just seemed like bad writing to me.
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Jun 18, 2016 10:32 PM

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SoraSenpai said:
Mumei went from being awesome to being the fucking worse. She basically caused chaos because she trusts her brother over everyone else.

Also apparently Mumei and Ikoma grew weaker because they were easily taken down by the blond guy. Just seemed like bad writing to me.


I feel the same, she acts retarded with Biba. I really loved her until he showed up. Now she's literally turned into a plot device for this show, and it's a damn shame.





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error5000 said:
The MC is dead, if it is suposed to be, let's see how the power of plot armor surprises us this time.


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy


Kabaneri is Still miles better than attack on titan.

It gets to.the point whereas aot will drag it's plot out for dumb reasons.


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Darklight0303 said:


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy


Kabaneri is Still miles better than attack on titan.

It gets to.the point whereas aot will drag it's plot out for dumb reasons.


Miles better? Good one, SnK is way, way better than KnK, I don't know why people still says that considering what we have got on these 10 episodes.

Btw, good episode, Takumi died but he really wasn't that beloved character so meh. As long they don't kill or do anything strange to Yukina (waifu of the season) I'm fine.
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Darklight0303 said:
error5000 said:
The MC is dead, if it is suposed to be, let's see how the power of plot armor surprises us this time.


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy

So you saying that he survived, because Biba is a idiot that can't even kill someone?
Yea... No plot armor at all...
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Darklight0303 said:
error5000 said:
The MC is dead, if it is suposed to be, let's see how the power of plot armor surprises us this time.


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy


Well it was not shown where he was stabbed... and that's exactly what "plot armor" means.
Jun 19, 2016 2:02 AM

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Mumei disobeyed Biba but he injected her with that thing. Rip Takumi:(! He didn't deserve to die.

Jun 19, 2016 2:25 AM

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Riveon said:
Darklight0303 said:


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy

So you saying that he survived, because Biba is a idiot that can't even kill someone?
Yea... No plot armor at all...


No he survived because the bond between him and Mumei was strong enough that it just barely was able to act against the control of the drug. It's not that rare. You just want the easy way out and say it's plot armor. Kindly buzz off if you hate it so much. You're polluting this thread with your BS
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Anlex said:
Darklight0303 said:


He's not dead for fuck's sake. He's a kabaneri and he was not stabbed through the heart. There's no plot armor involved here buddy


Well it was not shown where he was stabbed... and that's exactly what "plot armor" means.


Yes it was. For a few seconds you see the tip of the knife coming out of his back where his stomach should be. So no you are wrong once again. Nice try.
Jun 19, 2016 3:42 AM
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God darn it, why dd we have to deal with half baked character drama in this series? I am totally okay with these guys fighting the kabanes. Then we have Biba. Ugh.

Yeah, production went bad this episode. There are too many still frames!

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Baka-Hiru said:
Haha....Shingeki no Kyojin is labeled Shounen....waaaay brutal plot and gore so I guess this anime is actually less than Shounen.....I can see why a lot of people complain.

Because it's serialized in Bessatsu, a monthly shounen magazine. Like I said manga have separate demographics and anime has different. What do you mean by "less"? Demographics only hold shitposting value for idiots who think that seinen means mature/serious/straighforward stories.
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bastek66 said:
Baka-Hiru said:
Haha....Shingeki no Kyojin is labeled Shounen....waaaay brutal plot and gore so I guess this anime is actually less than Shounen.....I can see why a lot of people complain.

Because it's serialized in Bessatsu, a monthly shounen magazine. Like I said manga have separate demographics and anime has different. What do you mean by "less"? Demographics only hold shitposting value for idiots who think that seinen means mature/serious/straighforward stories.


Can't argue with that....no matter if they label this as shounen or seinen it is still shitty plot. (good animation/visuals though)
Jun 19, 2016 5:35 AM
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I was expecting ikoma would go on destroy mode *sigh
Jun 19, 2016 6:42 AM

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Watching this has inexplicably become a chore.

Nothing much to say really
Jun 19, 2016 7:05 AM

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- Ikoma getting (supposedly) killed
- Takumi is almost dead (but miraculously still moving)
- Mumei becoming a mindless Kabaneri
- Kurusu missing since last episode
- The coup almost certain to fail

What the hell is happening with this show?!? Sigh....
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Grimmgeta said:
No idea how they'll wrap this up in two more episodes.

They will only end it in a cliffhanger to make way for a second season. Thats what I think and hope for anyway. But if they indeed decide to bring in a second season, I hope we dont really have to wait 3-4 years as in the case of another anime (cough SNK cough)
Jun 19, 2016 7:26 AM

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Koutetsujou no Trainwreck.

Well, I can't truly judge the impact of this episode until the next two episodes come out, but I'm not really comfortable with the outcome of this episode.
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I have to say it's absolutely HILARIOUS how the whims of people shift. After the Fused Colony people were complaining that the Kabane showing more and more forms would get boring and repetitive.

Enter Biba and his band of merry men.

NOOOOO WE WANT MORE FIGHTING KABANE UNTIL THE END!!!!

Double Standards and Hypocrisy are the rule of the game in this thread
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I liked it. It was pretty fun to watch, and quite a few things happened, but is it just me or was the quality of animation notably lower than previous episodes? It seems like they went for a lot of stills when they could get away with it, even when they probably shouldn't have.

Well, hopefully it improves in the next couple episodes. With the way things ended, it seems pretty certain that we'll be dealing with a season 2... Or maybe not.
Jun 19, 2016 10:54 AM

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Wow Biba-san go to hell :(
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Jun 19, 2016 12:16 PM

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Lets all eat together and be happy! - yep, he's dead.
*stares at the screen deadpan* I did like the guy, but he had a big fat sign of "I'm dead" throughout the whole episode to me. x'D

And both Mumei and the MC will be fine so I'm not even worried.
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Darklight0303 said:
I have to say it's absolutely HILARIOUS how the whims of people shift. After the Fused Colony people were complaining that the Kabane showing more and more forms would get boring and repetitive.

Enter Biba and his band of merry men.

NOOOOO WE WANT MORE FIGHTING KABANE UNTIL THE END!!!!

Double Standards and Hypocrisy are the rule of the game in this thread
I actually didn't see people complaining about more Kabane forms possibly getting boring/repetitive, though I definitely think upon taking down the fused colony the Kotetsujyo crew became powerful enough that continuously fighting Kabane for the rest of the series probably wouldn't be interesting. I had a conversation with someone who said they wanted them to have to fight a bunch of Wazatori and 1-2 colonies at once, and though that would be interesting and fun to see, it's kinda impractical. Not only because those things are supposedly rare, but also because the fused colonies would likely try to take in all the Wazatori and maybe even battle each other, not to mention it would be a nightmare for WIT to animate unless it was kept extremely short.

Ultimately, I think it was a good decision having Biba be the main villain. That being said, I still want more fights with Kabane because the Kotetsujyo crew are reluctant to kill humans (while Biba and the Hunters obviously aren't), putting them in a terrible situation which makes victory almost impossible. Ikoma's shock, sadness, and caring personality pretty much stopped him from killing anyone at the end of this episode, but I wonder if he'll be able to kill people in the future?
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