Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| Regarding the comedy placement. It's kinda hard to see right now since the anime only addresses it a little bit yet but what Subaru essentially doesm is being overly positive to the point where it becomes obvious that it's merely a defensive mechanism to keep him safe. You could also see it as a way to cope with the stress caused by the traumatizing events. This now enters the field of the psychoanalytic defenses the humans usually go through. There are certain "levels" of how people handle a huge amount of stress caused by disturbing experiences. Simply suppressing it with humor is one of the main things people use to cover that up and keep themselves somewhat mentally healthy. Of course in Subaru's case this is a little bit exaggerated as the stress caused by traumatizing events is especially high. The thing is, Subaru's personality created by certain reasons I can't talk about, evens out this extremely high amount of stress. As it's common knowledge that this will get way darker I think you can guess that this method of fighting the mental stress put on his mind won't work forever which leads us to the one thing that I preach over and over again. Patience. Have patience and you'll realize that this is one big pic puzzle where we get only one piece at a time and we can't really put it together until we get more. Why he does that and where this results from is something I can't talk about yet since it involves spoiler so for now let's just say that there is a reason why Subaru is how he is. |
kamisama751 said: This is a show where sh*t really develops? Oh god, never thought something like that still exists today. :D My first thought, that I had, as I read some of the statements regarding the series. :D I really hope the most important developments are included in the anime (--> arc 2 + arc 3). I really want to believe that this anime is able to shine. |
Re:Zero nice troll ending.  |
| Each episode hurts more and more. I almost ended up crying several times. |
mozgow said: @_Yato_God Did you miss my comment? :-) Yes, it was Ram who cut his leg. And it was also her who killed him in loop 2 Yes I read it but your both answers does not make sense. In loop 2 there was chain sound, how can we say it was from roswaal. Its just your opinion but it's not the truth as you make it sound to be. And in loop 3 why would Ram cut his leg there was totally no reason, and if you want I can even spoil for you why that is not possible. |
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kamisama751 said: This is a show where sh*t really develops? Oh god, never thought something like that still exists today. :D YAS FKING BELIEVE IT (fingers crossed) |
JayDrink said: I want to ask "Is Emilia the Jealous Witch?" but I don't want any spoilers, so.. I'll ask this instead. Am I supposed to be this confused about the whole thing? Emilia said herself that she was Satella in the first episode. Later on, after Subaru's first death, she mentions that Satella is the Jealous Witch and that he shouldn't call her that. Then there's the whole issue of smelling like the witch. If Subaru smells like the witch because he's been with Satella so much, why does Satella not smell like the witch actually being the witch? Heck, why doesn't the whole mansion reek of the witch if she's living there? I feel like I've missed out on an important detail.. Yes you are supposed to be somewhat clueless about many thing right now including the whole witch thing. A lot like A LOT of stuff is explained bit by bit throughout the story after you've a little bite thrown at you. That one time where Emilia called herself Satella was simply to have an easy way of disposing Subaru since she didn't want his company. If word came out she lost the insignia her chances for the throne would be seriously damaged. The loop after that they never met hence she didn't had the need to chase him away with the name. That's why she was upset when he called her by that name. |
| I like the show and I like concept of the show, but there is times where I just don't like the MC. I not a fan of his comedic relief, and I don't like how polar his personality is. One minute he's playing the hero, the next minute he's an emotional mess, and then he's the comedic relief. One minute he's nonchalant about being teleported to another world, the next one minute he shock and in disbelief that he died and came back to life. I don't have a problem with the rest of the cast, and to be fare it's not every episode that he's doing something I don't like. I just that hope Subaru get his mind right. |
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| As much I think Rem is a bit too ruthless, and torture is said to not work anyways, I guess I can't truly blame them if Subaru really does a scent that is usually related to their enemies. Especially when their monarch died. It's just very sad. At least Ram dishes out quick death. Library sama is pretty badass, holding off attackers like that. |
| Jaywalker. |
| This threads are worse than the SnK ones. Full of spoilers! Anyway, Subaru is breaking down, finally realising he's in deep shit. The episode was disturbing, especially the ending. I guess he will have a proper meltdown as the series progresses and I hope for a more psychological approach. Overall I'm pretty impressed so far! |
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Fappa said: JayDrink said: I want to ask "Is Emilia the Jealous Witch?" but I don't want any spoilers, so.. I'll ask this instead. Am I supposed to be this confused about the whole thing? Emilia said herself that she was Satella in the first episode. Later on, after Subaru's first death, she mentions that Satella is the Jealous Witch and that he shouldn't call her that. Then there's the whole issue of smelling like the witch. If Subaru smells like the witch because he's been with Satella so much, why does Satella not smell like the witch actually being the witch? Heck, why doesn't the whole mansion reek of the witch if she's living there? I feel like I've missed out on an important detail.. Yes you are supposed to be somewhat clueless about many thing right now including the whole witch thing. A lot like A LOT of stuff is explained bit by bit throughout the story after you've a little bite thrown at you. That one time where Emilia called herself Satella was simply to have an easy way of disposing Subaru since she didn't want his company. If word came out she lost the insignia her chances for the throne would be seriously damaged. The loop after that they never met hence she didn't had the need to chase him away with the name. That's why she was upset when he called her by that name. So is it assumed that Emilia would've ditched Subaru after they found her insignia during the 1st loop? Or was saying Satella name supposed to get rid of Subaru right then and there? |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| Well that was intense. This episode was handled incredibly well, especially the atmosphere. I also like how we see a much different side to Beatrice, the moment when they made that 'contract' was so touching. She seems to be one of his only allies right now. I was pretty surprised by her development this episode. Also I'm really curious to see how Subaru turns out by the end of the anime. We've already seen him on the edge of having a meltdown. All of that suffering is bound to add up. I'm hoping he'll end up very different by the time the series ends. |
| Wow If this anime keeps its quality its becoming on of the best animes ever. Intense. Thrilling. I want to watch the next episode right away! |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
bobzanny said: So is it assumed that Emilia would've ditched Subaru after they found her insignia during the 1st loop? Or was saying Satella name supposed to get rid of Subaru right then and there? By naming herself Satella she wanted to get rid of Subaru since she couldn't bring herself to say it straight to the face. Any other person than Subaru would've run off immediately but he well didn't know a thing about Satella and the meaning of her name. |
Fappa said: bobzanny said: So is it assumed that Emilia would've ditched Subaru after they found her insignia during the 1st loop? Or was saying Satella name supposed to get rid of Subaru right then and there? By naming herself Satella she wanted to get rid of Subaru since she couldn't bring herself to say it straight to the face. Any other person than Subaru would've run off immediately but he well didn't know a thing about Satella and the meaning of her name. Oh ok that's what I figured, also Emilia being elf IIRC was only mentioned during the first loop so maybe it was skipped over but was her elf heritage mentioned at all during these last loops? Because that seemed to be a significant bonding/trust moment for them during that first loop. |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| I wasent sure what to think when this started, but I've slowly and slowly been really enjoying this show. Been loving how intense its gotten and excited to see what more Subaru and the show as an entity can offer. Definitly one of the top shows this season I would say. |
| Emilia is the biggest Mary Sue in anime. She just has to be flawless and get along perfectly with everyone - even when the rest of the house is turning on each other. Subaru is still an annoying Okabe ripoff, and those maids do a complete character 180 They never had any emotions. Now they're screaming lunatics and trying to kill people because "they might know something" |
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bobzanny said: Oh ok that's what I figured, also Emilia being elf IIRC was only mentioned during the first loop so maybe it was skipped over but was her elf heritage mentioned at all during these last loops? Because that seemed to be a significant bonding/trust moment for them during that first loop. It wasn't skipped over. We learn later about Emilia's race, heritage and everything involving half-elves :). |
Fappa said: bobzanny said: Oh ok that's what I figured, also Emilia being elf IIRC was only mentioned during the first loop so maybe it was skipped over but was her elf heritage mentioned at all during these last loops? Because that seemed to be a significant bonding/trust moment for them during that first loop. It wasn't skipped over. We learn later about Emilia's race, heritage and everything involving half-elves :). So then her not mentioning her elf heritage is because Subaru is more suspicious this time loop? Also mentioned during Arc 3 or will AO's be left wondering about her past? |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
Hey now, why is the Shield Hero in the same league as Sword Art Online? Shield Hero had some dark themes, though I must admit I stopped reading because it got a little boring or idk maybe I started to feel less edgy like the main character. |
| Jaywalker. |
| They should keep the comedy that is what making the show unique and offer a great tone shift. |
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| As far as the comedy is concerned I think it is more matter of taste, but helps balance the tone of the series. mozgow said: It wasn't confirmed but was heavily implied that she is a spirit. This episode IMO confirmed that. Indeed. Puck is the only other character who talks and makes contracts with others that we have seen. That said it's not confirmed just strong implied as you said. bobzanny said: Fappa said: It wasn't skipped over. We learn later about Emilia's race, heritage and everything involving half-elves :). So then her not mentioning her elf heritage is because Subaru is more suspicious this time loop? Also mentioned during Arc 3 or will AO's be left wondering about her past? Emilia's elf heritage wouldn't be talked about indepth this season as that has beyond what the anime can cover, you will learn why she and half-elves are discriminated against very soon however. |
Iron_MawMay 16, 2016 5:40 PM
Jagd84 said: As far as the comedy is concerned I think it is more matter of taste, but helps balance the tone of the series. mozgow said: It wasn't confirmed but was heavily implied that she is a spirit. This episode IMO confirmed that. Indeed. Puck is the only other character who talks and makes contracts with others that we have seen. That said it's not confirmed just strong implied as you said. bobzanny said: So then her not mentioning her elf heritage is because Subaru is more suspicious this time loop? Also mentioned during Arc 3 or will AO's be left wondering about her past? Emilia's elf heritage wouldn't be talked about indepth this season as that has beyond what the anime can cover, you will learn why she and half-elves are discriminated against very soon however. Ah I figured that we'd get a tease during the anime run and the full story during the LN/WN. Hopefully S2 can get confirmed. |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
mozgow said: I didn't wrote it (as I thought it was obvious) but it was Ram who killed him in the third loop. Also Roswaal was ready to attack Subaru in the fourth loop, so it's really possible it was the case in the second loop as well (when Rem died and hence the sound of chains). I appreciate the notification. As for the third loop, isn't the blue haired one called Rem. And the red haired one called Ram? I'm 200% sure Rem is the one who killed him in the third loop. |
ExplodingGirlMay 16, 2016 6:15 PM
SigOpram said: No, it's was Ram.mozgow said: I didn't wrote it (as I thought it was obvious) but it was Ram who killed him in the third loop. Also Roswaal was ready to attack Subaru in the fourth loop, so it's really possible it was the case in the second loop as well (when Rem died and hence the sound of chains). I appreciate the notification. As for the third loop, isn't the blue haired one called Rem. And the red haired one called Ram? I'm 200% sure Rem is the one who killed him in the third loop. In this episode when Subaru got shot by Ram's wind magic they show a flashback and also Rem said "Big sister is too nice" after Subaru died for his neck got slice by wind magic. Why you can't connect that ? |
ColdBreeze said: PointyThingy said: Nobody said that every spirit has the same rules, or did they?I thought spirits turn into crystal and went inactive during night but Beatrice was still active during nighttime and even early morning, before the time Puck wake up. [Off-topic]Has nothing to do with all of this but Re:Zero entered the top 100. Curious where it will be heading if we are in the third arc. This episode alone gave it a huge boost. It's now in the 90s on stalker. Japan seems to have loved this episode too. :O |
| This show is only for Felt/Elsa/Emilia/Beatrice. Rest are trash. |
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| Favorite episode of the season so far. It's crazy seeing Subaru going through all of this with no plausible way to explain his situation. Curious if he is going to be able to find out more about the Jealous Witch and be able to clear up everything he's gone though. |
| I honestly am speechless about just how amazing this episode was. |
| CRAWLING IN MY SKIN >I love you guys Sorry, but I cringed to that part. |
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iRels said: juicykitten95 said: y the comedy destroyed the atmosphere in the end of ep 7. But the question is how long will the comedy be able to keep existing Those happy moments aren't bad. You people seem to be developing sadism without even realizing. Think: Would you want to experience the bad moments Subaru's going through in reality? It's obvious that not. But you want him to, right? This is because you don't have to pay for it. That tense atmosphere isn't wanted by anyone. This kind of reminded me of the beginning of the game called 'Alan Wake.' I remember there being a character in a story that was mistreated by the author or something... To tell the story the readers wanted... They want to learn from, but not experience it themselves... It's fine. But when you want the character to share the same thought is where it starts becoming wrong (stupid). Subaru saw an opportunity to relieve it, and took it. He didn't do any wrong. He should even be praised for it. (Referring to the part where he pulled Beatrice's hair, if wasn't obvious enough.) I agree. I thought whole point was give a bit of levity to the scene and it happened just as Subaru found his resolve so I felt it was well time after nearly an episode of anguish. I feel was he needed to lift his spirits. |
Subaru isn't Okabe. Okabe doesn't practices exercises and plays games, does he? He's a mad scientist. He's also delusional. Subaru was never. They have similarities in that both use their delusions and chuuni behavior as a coping mechanism |
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levan86 said: Sorry, but you hoped wrong mi amigo ;)I hope you are not those guys in 4chan that kept posting this show is edgy and the "crawling in my skinn" that doesnt make sense and hella cringeworthy as well. |
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PointyThingy said: That's why I wasn't sure if she is really a spirit. But it seems she is a powerful one as she is able to stay "awake" in night and form at least two contracts at the same time.mozgow said: It wasn't confirmed but was heavily implied that she is a spirit. This episode IMO confirmed that. I thought spirits turn into crystal and went inactive during night but Beatrice was still active during nighttime and even early morning, before the time Puck wake up. _Yato_God said: I thought it was quite obvious but it seems I should explain it a little bit more.mozgow said: @_Yato_God Did you miss my comment? :-) Yes, it was Ram who cut his leg. And it was also her who killed him in loop 2 Yes I read it but your both answers does not make sense. In loop 2 there was chain sound, how can we say it was from roswaal. Its just your opinion but it's not the truth as you make it sound to be. And in loop 3 why would Ram cut his leg there was totally no reason, and if you want I can even spoil for you why that is not possible. It's still just a theory, and there are a lot of assumptions, but it seems for me to be the most plausible one. As I wrote earlier I do not think Rem's magic can cut limbs and that's why she is using a flail-like weapon. And as it was shown near the end of the episode Ram's magic can cut Subaru's face with ease and, as Subaru realized, it was most likely her who killed him in the previous loop. That's why I think it was also her that cut his leg (to help her sister interrogate him). Now, let's go back to end of episode 6. A lot of people were asking how was Subaru able to dodge that Rem's attack since in the previous loop (end of episode 5) that weapon cut his arm off. As I see it now, Rem's attack are deadly but not powerful enough to cut Subaru's arm. On the other hand Ram's attacks with her wind magic are capable of doing this. So I'm almost certain it was Ram who attacked him in loop 2. If it was Ram, then what reason could she possibly have? Whoever attacked Subaru did it with the intent to kill (without asking any questions, so we can rule out the possibility that he was targeted as a possible spy). What we've seen in this episode is that once Rem died, Ram attacked Subaru with the intent to kill him (as she was convinced he was responsible for that). We don't know what happened in loop 2 but this is a valid reason for Ram going to kill Subaru. If Rem died in loop 2, the sound of chain can only be made by Roswaal. And we've seen in this episode that he was really eager to attack Subaru (maybe not to kill him, but to hurt him enough to get some answers). It's still possible that both Ram and Rem were attacking him in loop 2, but it would mean that someone else died that night. And I can't think of anyone else than Subaru and Rem getting the curse. @SigOpram You might also like to read the above :-) Jagd84 said: That's why I wrote "unless there are other beings that can form contracts just like spirits". We do not know of any other beings capable of such thing, so that's why I assume she is a spirit.mozgow said: It wasn't confirmed but was heavily implied that she is a spirit. This episode IMO confirmed that. Indeed. Puck is the only other character who talks and makes contracts with others that we have seen. That said it's not confirmed just strong implied as you said. |
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