Konosuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! (light novel)
Akatsuki_Nin said: CherryLover said: Treat his companions with the respect they deserve? Is that a rhetorical question? That's the thing. Aqua is stupid and on top of that she's an arrogant bitch. She doesn't deserve any respect. >tells all the people who come that heaven is not what it seems >a hard worker when they were doing non adventure work >life of the party and town (respected by everyone but Kazuma?) >is an advanced class >saves darkness from death curse (maybe higher than advanced since the dullahan wasn't worried an arch wizard would break it) >purifies lake while everyone doesn't even help her The author is a woman? guess she must have been left out of the popular girls group. |
ichii_1Feb 15, 2016 12:21 PM
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| See this is why it's so hard to take feminists seriously most of the time =___= Like really now |
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CherryLover said: A_Little_Birdy said: I lol'd I bet if Aqua was a dude instead, you would perfectly fine with him being abused and mocked all day. Feminists in the end of the day are nothing but hypocrites. I would be fine if he deserved it. But Aqua didn't. She doesn't deserve all the abuse that thrown at her by Kazuma. Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: Asking to kazuma hater: so what would you do if you swap with kazuma...? Treat his companions with the respect they deserve? Is that a rhetorical question? CherryLover said: A_Little_Birdy said: I lol'd I bet if Aqua was a dude instead, you would perfectly fine with him being abused and mocked all day. Feminists in the end of the day are nothing but hypocrites. I would be fine if he deserved it. But Aqua didn't. She doesn't deserve all the abuse that thrown at her by Kazuma. Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: Asking to kazuma hater: so what would you do if you swap with kazuma...? Treat his companions with the respect they deserve? Is that a rhetorical question? you said that Aqua doesn't deserved it but since coming to the world Aqua is not useful at all for Kazuma and that is why Kazuma said that she is useless and all. I don't think calling someone useless, useless is not that much of an abuse.you're just saying that because Aqua is a woman.by the way just asking what do you think about louise in Zero no Tsukaima. Thats what I call someone who abuse other people. and for Dedy_Wicak_Sono question you didn't understand it at all he means that if you are Kazuma and are in a dysfuntional party like that what do you think you would do. |
RaiZeroFeb 15, 2016 4:48 PM
Akatsuki_Nin said: CherryLover said: Treat his companions with the respect they deserve? Is that a rhetorical question? That's the thing. Aqua is stupid and on top of that she's an arrogant bitch. She doesn't deserve any respect. >tells all the people who come that heaven is not what it seems (bc she want kazuma to go to other world) >a hard worker when they were doing non adventure work (well she want money for herself) >life of the party and town (respected by everyone but Kazuma?) (bc high stat + Arc Priest) >is an advanced class >saves darkness from death curse (maybe higher than advanced since the dullahan wasn't worried an arch wizard would break it) (KY/cant read the moment) >purifies lake while everyone doesn't even help her (she asking herself) + faking cry + selfish + escorting money + in the next episode making disaster |
Dedy_Wicak_SonoFeb 15, 2016 9:49 PM
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RaiZero said: CherryLover said: I would be fine if he deserved it. But Aqua didn't. She doesn't deserve all the abuse that thrown at her by Kazuma. Treat his companions with the respect they deserve? Is that a rhetorical question? CherryLover said: I would be fine if he deserved it. But Aqua didn't. She doesn't deserve all the abuse that thrown at her by Kazuma. Treat his companions with the respect they deserve? Is that a rhetorical question? you said that Aqua doesn't deserved it but since coming to the world Aqua is not useful at all for Kazuma and that is why Kazuma said that she is useless and all. I don't think calling someone useless, useless is not that much of an abuse.you're just saying that because Aqua is a woman.by the way just asking what do you think about louise in Zero no Tsukaima. Thats what I call someone who abuse other people. and for Dedy_Wicak_Sono question you didn't understand it at all he means that if you are Kazuma and are in a dysfuntional party like that what do you think you would do. This what i mean, you have to work more hard with mess up party, like in any RPG bad party mean more trouble to come, and kazuma have the right to complaint. he just ordinary otaNEET and you expect him to become like "kirito". |
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| See, this thread just sums up the reasons why we can't have nice things |
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Tenzen12 said: .There is no such thing as bullying Aqua too much. lol this ^~^ .......... |
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| At first when I read the LN I don't think Aqua is that much annoying but let me tell you what aqua will do as the story goes after I read 8 Volume of the LN |
| She mocks him a lot. - Laugh at his death - Laugh at him getting attacked by frogs - Faking her tears to guilt trip him Then you see her extorting money from Mitsurugi. He also mocks her for being useless and troublesome. That's pretty fair. Is it so hard to see why he is pissed at her? If I'm Kazuma, I would ditch her or kill her once I'm strong enough. I can't stand her in the LN. OP also doesn't respond to our arguments about why they don't "save" her. Here, let me quote it again for you: Watch again carefully. They offered to run away together. She rejected because she want $$$ Attacking the Alligators is out of question because all of them are all low level and it will contaminate the lake with blood. I mean, they are having trouble against friggin frogs. You expect them to be able to fight Alligators? What if his team help her out without her consent? She will go back to lake after getting out of the cage and become Alligator's meal for the sake of $$$ You're just looking a way to blame everything on Kazuma. Kazuma is a huge jerk and lazy guy but you're grasping at straw here. |
fateoffateFeb 16, 2016 1:35 AM
| ... so, thanks to some feminist whom I seriously doubt they even watch each episode properly (since they're definitely too busy cursing at Kazuma's concept of Gender Equality) this is turning into an Aqua hate thread ^^" hey guys, Aqua has her uses, too. |
Revvie-chan said: ... so, thanks to some feminist whom I seriously doubt they even watch each episode properly (since they're definitely too busy cursing at Kazuma's concept of Gender Equality) this is turning into an Aqua hate thread ^^" hey guys, Aqua has her uses, too. its not that this is turning into an Aqua hate thread its just that everyone just want to tell that what Kazuma does is a fair thing. by the way for what you said about Aqua's use I agree with that but |
RaiZero said: Revvie-chan said: ... so, thanks to some feminist whom I seriously doubt they even watch each episode properly (since they're definitely too busy cursing at Kazuma's concept of Gender Equality) this is turning into an Aqua hate thread ^^" hey guys, Aqua has her uses, too. its not that this is turning into an Aqua hate thread its just that everyone just want to tell that what Kazuma does is a fair thing. by the way for what you said about Aqua's use I agree with that but If I have to choose, she's best girl But every one of them are all good characters of a comedy with-a-little-parody story, so it doesn't really matter which one is best girl. <3 |
Revvie-chan said: RaiZero said: its not that this is turning into an Aqua hate thread its just that everyone just want to tell that what Kazuma does is a fair thing. by the way for what you said about Aqua's use I agree with that but If I have to choose, she's best girl But every one of them are all good characters of a comedy with-a-little-parody story, so it doesn't really matter which one is best girl. <3 have you read volume 8 of LN? if not click the spoiler button but it is a big spoiler |
| im jealous of people that can read raw LN, i only read 5 volumes in english. but i cant find spoiler about 6 and 7 about the princess Iris |
| https://49.media.tumblr.com/5299dd90b5f4246f2275efd0ef740823/tumblr_nyag3qnY5M1qd6bkuo2_r1_500.gif Aqua--! There's a loli molesting me--! by Satou Kazuma |
| am seriously feel guilty about talking in LN on this current thread. Sorry, I'll send my reply to your page, after all. ps.: I only read the fanfic, too, #ifyouknowwhatImean since my reading isn't that good (so I avoid reading too much gibberish text.) |
Revvie-chan said: am seriously feel guilty about talking in LN on this current thread. Sorry, I'll send my reply to your page, after all. yeah you're right about that |
All aqua did was mock him cause he died like a loser, even his parents and doctors laughed at him, why don't you blame them? She's being cheerful and playful to everyone but only kazuma treats her like trash. Weak losers are the ones who complain about others getting privileges and advantages. God made aqua a goddess and kirito made use of his beta tester advantage ,tough luck to the others. Party Tricks raise morale and combined with her other powers still get good uses, plus she was already high leveled. Kazuma said that she should go alone, but aqua is the one who wanted help, and after it was over they gave aqua the money cause they felt bad they didn't to a thing to help her. That's what friends do and you say "extorting money" I say "taking advantage of the situation" and the guy had that coming. They were all in it together, after it was over they said aqua can keep the money (cause they didn't do a thing). Advanced classes are low level? please. Darkness is a crusader, kazuma can lure the beasts and megumin can finish them off, but they didn't do anything cause they didn't care. Are the alligators stronger and smarter than Mitsurugi? if not kazuma has no excuse. |
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ichii_1 said: All aqua did was mock him cause he died like a loser, even his parents and doctors laughed at him, why don't you blame them? She's being cheerful and playful to everyone but only kazuma treats her like trash. Weak losers are the ones who complain about others getting privileges and advantages. God made aqua a goddess and kirito made use of his beta tester advantage ,tough luck to the others. Party Tricks raise morale and combined with her other powers still get good uses, plus she was already high leveled. Kazuma said that she should go alone, but aqua is the one who wanted help, and after it was over they gave aqua the money cause they felt bad they didn't to a thing to help her. That's what friends do and you say "extorting money" I say "taking advantage of the situation" and the guy had that coming. They were all in it together, after it was over they said aqua can keep the money (cause they didn't do a thing). Advanced classes are low level? please. Darkness is a crusader, kazuma can lure the beasts and megumin can finish them off, but they didn't do anything cause they didn't care. Are the alligators stronger and smarter than Mitsurugi? if not kazuma has no excuse. I can see double standard here. |
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Oh fucking hell. Typical feminist supremacist. "If you are a female and don't support our agenda then you must be a loser and an outcast." |
| It's a fucking comedy dude. It's funny, because hes treating her like shit even though she's supposed to be a goddess. Plus shes a bitch, the way she made fun of his death and stuff and she is actually stupid and also full of herself. It's a fucking fictional story, stop getting all concerned about fake people and enjoy the show lol. |
LoneWolfFeb 16, 2016 10:48 PM
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Advanced classes are low level? please. Megumin is level 6. She just has high INT for Arch Wizard requirements. Darkness has high VIT and she is the same as hers. Those thing can kill you quick. Lure them? More like getting killed. Are the alligators stronger and smarter than Mitsurugi? if not kazuma has no excuse. He roll 20 for initiative and Mitsurugi is a white knight so he is easier to fool. Alligator doesn't have sense of pride and will go eat everything. A bad matchup for Kazuma. Actually, nevermind. You already made you mind to hate Kazuma and blame everything on him. I'll just read this and move on. X-axis said: Oh fucking hell. Typical feminist supremacist. "If you are a female and don't support our agenda then you must be a loser and an outcast." |
| If you thought this was bullying You don't understand the meaning of "bullying" In short Just have fun! Watch it and don't think anything.. It's anime! xD |
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The OP only wants more Kirito's, and not MC's that actually have a personality and that isn't a walking stick. I doubt it. OP just like Aqua and want to blame someone for her misfortune. OP refuse to believe Aqua is at fault too. Who is better to be blamed than Kazuma? This is an elementary child mentality. For information: - Aqua stats are maxed out so she won't get any smarter. Kazuma actually pity her. - Aqua start with high spec but low intelligence and luck. Kazuma is the opposite. Aqua relies on brute force while Kazuma use tricks. - However Kazuma and Aqua have the most similar personality. Both are jerks and manipulative. Both are full of themselves. Kazuma is just smarter at doing it because of his higher INT. |
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X-axis said: Oh fucking hell. Typical feminist supremacist. "If you are a female and don't support our agenda then you must be a loser and an outcast." Of course we aren't implying that all women who do not support our ideals for equal rights are outcasts. They just haven't understood the importance of feminism yet, and I suppose this author is one of them. And I won't force our opinions down their throats, unlike some people who do it to me on here. CC9ers said: This is isn't reddit. Take your feminist shit somewhere else. Unless you're posting something this bad ironically. In which case.. take it somewhere else still. Look, if the show wasn't sexist, we wouldn't be angry at it. This show is sexist. Therefore we are angry and we would like others to not watch this. It's simple logic. |
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CherryLover said: Sorry, but can i ask you where the sexist is ?. I think you misunderstanding something, Aqua is basically like my sister, we argue for little thing next day we make up. this is not bullying but teasing each other (aqua to kazuma, Kazuma to aqua).X-axis said: Oh fucking hell. Typical feminist supremacist. "If you are a female and don't support our agenda then you must be a loser and an outcast." Of course we aren't implying that all women who do not support our ideals for equal rights are outcasts. They just haven't understood the importance of feminism yet, and I suppose this author is one of them. And I won't force our opinions down their throats, unlike some people who do it to me on here. CC9ers said: This is isn't reddit. Take your feminist shit somewhere else. Unless you're posting something this bad ironically. In which case.. take it somewhere else still. Look, if the show wasn't sexist, we wouldn't be angry at it. This show is sexist. Therefore we are angry and we would like others to not watch this. It's simple logic. |
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Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: CherryLover said: Sorry, but can i ask you where the sexist is ?. I think you misunderstanding something, Aqua is basically like my sister, we argue for little thing next day we make up. this is not bullying but teasing each other (aqua to kazuma, Kazuma to aqua).Of course we aren't implying that all women who do not support our ideals for equal rights are outcasts. They just haven't understood the importance of feminism yet, and I suppose this author is one of them. And I won't force our opinions down their throats, unlike some people who do it to me on here. Look, if the show wasn't sexist, we wouldn't be angry at it. This show is sexist. Therefore we are angry and we would like others to not watch this. It's simple logic. It's everywhere, to be frank. Look at Kazuma pulling Aqua's hair, or his panty-stealing tendencies. There are plenty more, but you get the point. It's not teasing, it's outright sexist behaviour. |
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| All that action is just a skinship between the characters.Its just a comedy anime .it's your fault for taking a comedy series so seriously. |
CherryLover said: Ah so that what u mean, based on my experience (observation to be exact) that thing is not on bullying category, but its okay that what your reason is and im okay with that but im not agree with you.Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: Sorry, but can i ask you where the sexist is ?. I think you misunderstanding something, Aqua is basically like my sister, we argue for little thing next day we make up. this is not bullying but teasing each other (aqua to kazuma, Kazuma to aqua). It's everywhere, to be frank. Look at Kazuma pulling Aqua's hair, or his panty-stealing tendencies. There are plenty more, but you get the point. It's not teasing, it's outright sexist behaviour. |
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Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: CherryLover said: Ah so that what u mean, based on my experience (observation to be exact) that thing is not on bullying category, but its okay that what your reason is and im okay with that but im not agree with you.It's everywhere, to be frank. Look at Kazuma pulling Aqua's hair, or his panty-stealing tendencies. There are plenty more, but you get the point. It's not teasing, it's outright sexist behaviour. Actually, the actions CherryLover said can be included as bullying, if the reason is to show supremacy. :P Let's add some more oil: Hey guys, She won't listen to any of our reasoning. See all her reply? It didn't touch all the logic we used in our explanation and always came back to the superficial level. Such shallow-headed person... No use trying to explain all the things about Kazuma relationship with Aqua and such because she won't read it anyway. So, it's best if you just let her rant continue without replying any (because, you know: she didn't read our reply, why should we read hers?) |
Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: Ah so that what u mean, based on my experience (observation to be exact) that thing is not on bullying category, but its okay that what your reason is and im okay with that but im not agree with you. it's more as well, like Aqua being the savior and helpful then being degraded as useless and blamed for everything, the bias there is clear to be seen. and this fateoffate said: - Aqua stats are maxed out so she won't get any smarter. Kazuma actually pity her. - Aqua start with high spec but low intelligence and luck. Aqua a goddess gets labeled a retard, while being more useful than everyone combined even while being held back by the author. |
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RaiZero said: All that action is just a skinship between the characters.Its just a comedy anime .it's your fault for taking a comedy series so seriously. Then you could also say rape is just "skinship". Kazuma's actions cross the line of morality here. Also, if I were taking it seriously, I would be far harsher on it. Revvie-chan said: Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: Ah so that what u mean, based on my experience (observation to be exact) that thing is not on bullying category, but its okay that what your reason is and im okay with that but im not agree with you. Actually, the actions CherryLover said can be included as bullying, if the reason is to show supremacy. :P Let's add some more oil: Hey guys, She won't listen to any of our reasoning. See all her reply? It didn't touch all the logic we used in our explanation and always came back to the superficial level. Such shallow-headed person... No use trying to explain all the things about Kazuma relationship with Aqua and such because she won't read it anyway. So, it's best if you just let her rant continue without replying any (because, you know: she didn't read our reply, why should we read hers?) Are you serious? Are you actually serious? I touched on every one of your points and I showed why this show is sexist through examples and logical reasoning. You're the shallow-headed one here. |
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CherryLover said: RaiZero said: All that action is just a skinship between the characters.Its just a comedy anime .it's your fault for taking a comedy series so seriously. Then you could also say rape is just "skinship". Kazuma's actions cross the line of morality here. Also, if I were taking it seriously, I would be far harsher on it. Revvie-chan said: Actually, the actions CherryLover said can be included as bullying, if the reason is to show supremacy. :P Let's add some more oil: Hey guys, She won't listen to any of our reasoning. See all her reply? It didn't touch all the logic we used in our explanation and always came back to the superficial level. Such shallow-headed person... No use trying to explain all the things about Kazuma relationship with Aqua and such because she won't read it anyway. So, it's best if you just let her rant continue without replying any (because, you know: she didn't read our reply, why should we read hers?) Are you serious? Are you actually serious? I touched on every one of your points and I showed why this show is sexist through examples and logical reasoning. You're the shallow-headed one here. rape? is there such thing in this anime . Is this anime rated 18+? By the way agreed with Revvie-chan opinion because looks like continuing debating such thing seems will not go anywhere like this. When there is someone who is saying an opinion as a fact. If its your opinion then I don't care about that but saying something like KonoSuba is sexism as a fact although that is just your opinion is not something that I can tolerate. |
RaiZero said: CherryLover said: Then you could also say rape is just "skinship". Kazuma's actions cross the line of morality here. Also, if I were taking it seriously, I would be far harsher on it. Are you serious? Are you actually serious? I touched on every one of your points and I showed why this show is sexist through examples and logical reasoning. You're the shallow-headed one here. rape? is there such thing in this anime . Is this anime rated 18+? By the way agreed with Revvie-chan opinion because looks like continuing debating such thing seems will not go anywhere like this. When there is someone who is saying an opinion as a fact. If its your opinion then I don't care about that but saying something like KonoSuba is sexism as a fact although that is just your opinion is not something that I can tolerate. For goodness' sake, for the last time, it isn't an opinion. It's like saying that "Adolf Hitler was racist imo", when it's a fact that he WAS racist. Same applies to KonoSuba. It's sexist, there's no denying it. There's only justifying why you like such a sexist show and how its positives may outweigh its negatives (though I will disagree on that part, which would then be my opinion). Hence, please stop calling this an opinion. |
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LazyLuong said: the novel makes fun of hentai tropes too. instead of monster raping female, it's monster raping male. Not knowing this, Kazuma told the girls to stay back and took the initiative to fight the monster by himself to protect the girls, only to be target by the monsters. Of course no rape actually took place, but Kazuma was close to being raped, being held down and tramatize, lol. Of course the girls in the party did nothing, so Kazuma ended up saving himself using his trump card. When a mon of monsters does chase Kazuma down to rape him, the only one that took action to save him was YunYun, who is the opposite of megumin. YunYun is a great character that causes a lot of trouble for herself by misunderstanding things, but is a very compotent person. The reason she beg Kazuma for help was hilarious due to the misunderstanding cause by the Crismon Village's common sense and letter. I really enjoy volume 6 where he shows both his flaws and amazing fighting ability. actually, she was talking about the girls getting raped or something... |
ichii_1 said: Dedy_Wicak_Sono said: Ah so that what u mean, based on my experience (observation to be exact) that thing is not on bullying category, but its okay that what your reason is and im okay with that but im not agree with you. it's more as well, like Aqua being the savior and helpful then being degraded as useless and blamed for everything, the bias there is clear to be seen. and this fateoffate said: - Aqua stats are maxed out so she won't get any smarter. Kazuma actually pity her. - Aqua start with high spec but low intelligence and luck. Aqua a goddess gets labeled a retard, while being more useful than everyone combined even while being held back by the author. Aqua is made to be Kazuma's foil. They shares the most personality. Both are jerks. Their only difference is stats. Her capability is balanced by making her braindead. Kazuma's capability is balanced by making him low stats. Everyone has something that held them back. If you want to argue like that, I can say the same about Dullahan being held back by author. He is supposed to be powerful but a group of weirdo defeat him. |
CherryLover said: X-axis said: Oh fucking hell. Typical feminist supremacist. "If you are a female and don't support our agenda then you must be a loser and an outcast." Of course we aren't implying that all women who do not support our ideals for equal rights are outcasts. They just haven't understood the importance of feminism yet, and I suppose this author is one of them. And I won't force our opinions down their throats, unlike some people who do it to me on here. CC9ers said: This is isn't reddit. Take your feminist shit somewhere else. Unless you're posting something this bad ironically. In which case.. take it somewhere else still. Look, if the show wasn't sexist, we wouldn't be angry at it. This show is sexist. Therefore we are angry and we would like others to not watch this. It's simple logic. Who is it to deem your damn agenda the most just and of importance?! You tell us that you won't force your opinions which are "of importance" and yet you have the audacity to say "we would like others not to watch this. It's simple logic." Fucking hypocrite. |
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