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Oct 25, 2015 8:34 AM

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Dort said:
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Actually Vegeta blowing up the bug planet is non-canon(as in it's not in the manga). Meaning it's filler that doesn't really happen.


ok..it's not canon but Muten destoyed the moon, you think Vegeta and Nappa can't do this?
seeing as they're canonically afraid of Frieza, no


Oct 25, 2015 8:39 AM

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#OneTrueTatsuya
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Chuck Norris would also destroy Superman.
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Illyricus said:
Chuck Norris would also destroy Superman.
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#OneTrueTatsuya


These and John Cena.
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OppaiSugoi said:
#OneTrueTatsuya


Can I ask who Tatsuya is? I've heard the name before, but I'm not sure what they're from.
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Spiderman said:
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#OneTrueTatsuya


Can I ask who Tatsuya is? I've heard the name before, but I'm not sure what they're from.


He's from Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei, just look him up.
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Spiderman said:
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#OneTrueTatsuya


Can I ask who Tatsuya is? I've heard the name before, but I'm not sure what they're from.


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AzureDaora said:
Dort said:


ok..it's not canon but Muten destoyed the moon, you think Vegeta and Nappa can't do this?
seeing as they're canonically afraid of Frieza, no


http://c.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/20-037.0/compressed/edragon_ball_z_v004-039.jpg

This is canon, as Vegeta says he can destroy the earth.

Just think what could do a man 1000 times more powerful, yes the power level in dragon ball are so inconstent, but thats it
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so no one even mention kenshiro, the sdavior of the 21st century?
he only needs superman to attack me so that he can push his pressure points. but then if superman is like souther, he's fucked.
so either him, haruhi or saitama



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#OneTrueTatsuya
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John Cena


I came here for this.
Oct 25, 2015 11:26 AM

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Xykko said:
so no one even mention kenshiro, the sdavior of the 21st century?
he only needs superman to attack me so that he can push his pressure points. but then if superman is like souther, he's fucked.
so either him, haruhi or saitama

Well Superman is a Kryptonian, so I don't think you can assume his pressure points are the same as humans. Altough I think someone has used pressure point attack on him, but not really sure.
And it's not like Superman has to fight h2h, he could just snipe Kenshiro with his heat vision from the orbit

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Oct 25, 2015 11:32 AM

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Lets make a list:
Whis
- Dragon Ball Super
Alucard - Hellsing Ultimate
Yagami Light - Death Note
Batman - Batman: Gotham Knight
Saitama - One Punch Man
Pikachu - Pokemon
Oct 25, 2015 11:43 AM

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phantom346 said:
Lets make a list:
Whis
- Dragon Ball Super
Alucard - Hellsing Ultimate
Yagami Light - Death Note
Batman - Batman: Gotham Knight
Saitama - One Punch Man
Pikachu - Pokemon

Whis - nope Pre-Crisis(or any incarnation that's stronger) Superman murders him
Alucard - nope Superman goes back in time and hurls the planet into the Sun or makes the universe collapse on itself
Light - nope Superman isn't a human thus Death Note won't work on him.
Batman - nope if Superman really wanted to kill Batman, then Batman would die before knowing what hit him
Saitama - nope Superman is way stronger and more broken
Pikachu - Superman can cause earthquakes and it's super effective

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Pikachu - Superman can cause earthquakes and it's super effective


That was the best response XD.
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man Saitama is the new overhyped character it seems, i remember back when people thought that Haruhi, then Accelerator, then Madoka an then Gil were the strongest ones

One Punch Man isnt fast enough to even punch Superman an there are character than can kill OPM with a thought a universes away from him
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Kirito. The guy can hack SAO, come on!


He's a bitch in real life though.

Saitama could wipe the floor with both Goku and Superman. Sure, Superman has all kindsa asspull powers, but Saitama still needs that one punch.


He got prettier girls than both Superman and Goku. Alpha male shit right thurrr.
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suzumiya haruhi

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Oct 25, 2015 12:18 PM

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Some of Superman versions are more like fanfictions of "let's create the most ridiculously OP version of this guy" though, so even if there's a character who can beat him what he need is to wait until some other writers to write an even more OP one. So the whole point of this power level comparison is a moot.
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TheBrainintheJar said:

He got prettier girls than both Superman and Goku. Alpha male shit right thurrr.


Bitches got nuthin' to do with his strength.
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Some of Superman versions are more like fanfictions of "let's create the most ridiculously OP version of this guy" though, so even if there's a character who can beat him what he need is to wait until some other writers to write an even more OP one. So the whole point of this power level comparison is a moot.

He's the ultimate Gary Stu, a true american (actually an illegal alien) hero!
Oct 25, 2015 12:39 PM

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inb4 saitama
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Illyricus said:
Chuck Norris would also destroy Superman.
All credit goes to Sacred.
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Xykko said:
so no one even mention kenshiro, the sdavior of the 21st century?
he only needs superman to attack me so that he can push his pressure points. but then if superman is like souther, he's fucked.
so either him, haruhi or saitama


If supes could take damage from a human being he wouldn't be super .If Kenshiro was a lot stronger it might work ,also supes can use pressure points as well .Combine those with his X-ray vision and he can probably disable them (I'm just saying .I don't know how Kenshiro's pressure points work ) and use them better than Kenshiro .

As I said earlier the only humans god that can take supes on is Tatsuya Shiba .

Vulnerability to magic + OP mofo = Supes getting rekt

Also Saitama ,DemonBane and Kirito cuz no amount of strength can break through his plot armour
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_Peksi said:
phantom346 said:
[b]Lets make a list:
Batman - Batman: Gotham Knight
Pikachu - Pokemon

Batman - nope if Superman really wanted to kill Batman, then Batman would die before knowing what hit him
Saitama - nope Superman is way stronger and more broken
Pikachu - Superman can cause earthquakes and it's super effective


Every time I see Batman mention in what if's they always say prep time plus didn't he dodge Darkseids Omega

A much better example for a Pokemon is Arceus in the anime he is by far the strongest.

Saitama hasn't really tried in any fight but all he has is physical strength while Supes has all the powers under the sun.
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Only humans with kryptonite+genius intellect can defeat Kryptionians. I do not see any anime characters with the exact same feats as Batman (Bruce Wayne not Batman from the 853rd century, aka Batman One Million) or Dr. Doom. Having high end feats in physical strength isn't enough to take down Kryptonians. Superman was built for massive strength. In yellow sunlight, he's practically invincible. Batman can defeat Supes, but he doesn't have to, because it's not in his character. The dark knight however, can defeat General Zod or Amazo with Kryptonian powers, who unlike Supes, uses his powers for evil.
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as mentioned Saitama
John Cena
Exodia - u get the 5 cards opponent loses
Sauron with the ring
Mewtwo
Naruto with is talk no jutsu is super effective

Oct 25, 2015 5:58 PM

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Evildragon16 said:
Xykko said:
so no one even mention kenshiro, the sdavior of the 21st century?
he only needs superman to attack me so that he can push his pressure points. but then if superman is like souther, he's fucked.
so either him, haruhi or saitama


If supes could take damage from a human being he wouldn't be super .If Kenshiro was a lot stronger it might work ,also supes can use pressure points as well .Combine those with his X-ray vision and he can probably disable them (I'm just saying .I don't know how Kenshiro's pressure points work ) and use them better than Kenshiro .

As I said earlier the only humans god that can take supes on is Tatsuya Shiba .

Vulnerability to magic + OP mofo = Supes getting rekt

Also Saitama ,DemonBane and Kirito cuz no amount of strength can break through his plot armour


Superman has been proven to hold up well against magic, omega beams or transmutation. Tatsuya Shiba is hopeless against him in a prep battle or no morals battle. Kryptonite does the most damage to Supes than transmutation attacks. Tatsuya Shiba can never be as overpowered as Darkseid or Dr. Doom and this anime character does not have any high end feats in prep, physical strength, flight speed or travel speed. A sucker punch from a bloodlusted Kryptonian can kill you faster than you can expect. Tatsuya Shiba most certainly can't dodge lasers or the Omega Beam. He most certainly doesn't have impressive durability feats, either.
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Naofumi Iwatani from Tate no Yusha no Nariagari - Could erase his existence from all universes and defend against all his attacks.

Can't be revived if you never existed after all.
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Saitama? the people in Comic Vine would say "get the fuck out of here" and they would also expect you to bring up scans of Saitama's feats.

Naofumi Iwatani? I doubt he could defeat Apocalypse, who is crazy durable with a great arsenal anymore than Superman or Doomsday.
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Kurt_Irving said:
Evildragon16 said:


If supes could take damage from a human being he wouldn't be super .If Kenshiro was a lot stronger it might work ,also supes can use pressure points as well .Combine those with his X-ray vision and he can probably disable them (I'm just saying .I don't know how Kenshiro's pressure points work ) and use them better than Kenshiro .

As I said earlier the only humans god that can take supes on is Tatsuya Shiba .

Vulnerability to magic + OP mofo = Supes getting rekt

Also Saitama ,DemonBane and Kirito cuz no amount of strength can break through his plot armour


Superman has been proven to hold up well against magic, omega beams or transmutation. Tatsuya Shiba is hopeless against him in a prep battle or no morals battle. Kryptonite does the most damage to Supes than transmutation attacks. Tatsuya Shiba can never be as overpowered as Darkseid or Dr. Doom and this anime character does not have any high end feats in prep, physical strength, flight speed or travel speed. A sucker punch from a bloodlusted Kryptonian can kill you faster than you can expect. Tatsuya Shiba most certainly can't dodge lasers or the Omega Beam. He most certainly doesn't have impressive durability feats, either.


Superman has no way to defend against mist dispersion, fight would end in less than a second.
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Dort said:
Goku can destroy Superman using like 5% of his power

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Goku isn't even the strongest in his universe

And? Half dragon ball characters can win againts Superman

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That's easy .Shiba Tatsuya .

Weakness against magic + OP Mofo

Supes gets rekt

BTW Supes really can kick Goku's ass. You guys don't know how OP that guy is .BTW he can also destroy the planet .Infinite Mass Punch Baby .I'mean not even talking about Superman Prime


like goku can't destroy a planet lulz, even piccolo from dragon ball can do this, Goku only if want can destroy the GALAXY, i don't think superman can do this


I don't follow the comics but I've read Pre-Crisis Superman with the sword of superman is capable of reality warping, also a mere sneeze from him destroyed an entire solar system.
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Kars from JoJo.
And Sorbet > Goku, so Goku isn't even the strongest in DBverse.
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If its Superman Prime, no one can beat him. If you follow superman comics, he gains powers from a 5th dimensional creature, making him nearly omnipotent(all knowing), and he basically can do whatever he wants. He is immune to krptonite, magic, and anything else in this state.

If were talking normal superman, anyone with super strong magic, can beat him. Or a being who can erase him from existence, but I don't think that's a real win in my book. Except that strong magic user would need to attack him before he could kill them. Modern superman can still move faster than the speed of light, so you would need an incredibly fast, strong, and strong magic user to do it.
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Light Yagami


Superman can't survive with his heart destroyed...right?


Death Note can only kill humans not aliens... an there are characters than can survive having their hearts destroyed anyway


Are you sure it can't kill aliens? I mean, Superman is humanoid and there are no rules in the Death Note that mention aliens at all, so who's to say for sure that it won't kill them. However, I agree that he could live with through a heart attack. Light would have to come up with a different way to kill him. If Light knew about Superman's weakness to Kryptonite, then maybe he could use that info along with the Death Note to his advantage.
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Superman has been proven to hold up well against magic, omega beams or transmutation. Tatsuya Shiba is hopeless against him in a prep battle or no morals battle. Kryptonite does the most damage to Supes than transmutation attacks. Tatsuya Shiba can never be as overpowered as Darkseid or Dr. Doom and this anime character does not have any high end feats in prep, physical strength, flight speed or travel speed. A sucker punch from a bloodlusted Kryptonian can kill you faster than you can expect. Tatsuya Shiba most certainly can't dodge lasers or the Omega Beam. He most certainly doesn't have impressive durability feats, either.


Superman has no way to defend against mist dispersion, fight would end in less than a second.


is Tatsuya massively faster than light? cause Superman can move at those speeds
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To be fair, Superman probably couldn't kill Goku either. It's a literal case of an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Superman may be invincible but he doesn't nearly have the kind of power level to do any real damage to Goku.
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MiniSiets said:
To be fair, Superman probably couldn't kill Goku either. It's a literal case of an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Superman may be invincible but he doesn't nearly have the kind of power level to do any real damage to Goku.


Superman can vaporize Goku's brain with heat vision. there's this thing called Death Battle on Youtube, by ScrewAttack, and they did two battles between superman and goku, and superman annihilated Gloku twice. Also superman has this attack called the infinite mass punch, which also vaporized Goku.

Superman is wayyyy stronger, unfathomably stronger.
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Makishima can beat both.

Makishima has connections. He knows the writers of every series and they tell him what the characters will do next. He's also good at manipulating people and fighting. He has no flaw whatsoever - and why should he? That's grimdark character development right there!
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Kars from JoJo.
And Sorbet > Goku, so Goku isn't even the strongest in DBverse.

Superman throws the whole planet along with Kars into a star or a black hole.
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To be fair, Superman probably couldn't kill Goku either. It's a literal case of an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Superman may be invincible but he doesn't nearly have the kind of power level to do any real damage to Goku.

Yea a guy who can easily move dozens of planets from one Galaxy to another, isn't strong enough to damage Goku...
I mean it's not like he can weld shut holes in reality with heat vision either

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D'arby from Jojo SC.

Have a gamble, bet your soul, D'arby wins. Who said it needs to be a physical fight?

Also D'arby needs to have a hostage beforehand so Superman doesn't blow him into atoms.
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dragon ball characters can open a dimensional rift just screaming, majuin bu was totally destroying the life in the universe, Goku beated him.
the only thing that Goku can not do is create a new life or planets, but he can do just everything, move FTL, destroy planets and stars with a shot, read your mind, teleport, and he become stronger after every fight
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dragon ball characters can open a dimensional rift just screaming, majuin bu was totally destroying the life in the universe, Goku beated him.
the only thing that Goku can not do is create a new life or planets, but he can do just everything, move FTL, destroy planets and stars with a shot, read your mind, teleport, and he become stronger after every fight

Superman can weld holes in reality with heat vision and collapse the universe by flying too fast.
Buu was blowing up 1 planet at a time, Superman can easily do the same and way faster.
Goku is only FTL with IT, Superman is some thousands of times FTL atleast(some incarnations are immeasurably faster)
Superman can sneeze away a star system and break the universe.
He can only mind read when touching someone, touching Superman means he can touch Goku and that means Goku is dead.

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I never thought that Superman was that OP O_O and I thought that Marvel had OP characters...
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This Superman vs Goku debate is as shitty as Fate waifu wars...my word
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I never thought that Superman was that OP O_O and I thought that Marvel had OP characters...
Well it really depends on the incarnation and most aren't that powerful in base form. Aside from Pre-Crisis(most OP without power ups) the others got their powers from some outside source. Like Golden Superman spent years in the sun and learned 5th dimensial magic and Cosmic Armor Superman got the Thought Robot aka. Cosmic Armor
Marvel and DC are about equally OP and Broken.
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This Superman vs Goku debate is as shitty as Fate waifu wars...my word

Well this was never supposed to be a about Goku vs. Superman.

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Goku has GOD ki ow, regular ki has already snegated reality warping and magic (shenron and buu)
SSG blue goku blitzes and shots superman due to sheer power scaling.
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