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Aug 8, 2009 10:11 AM
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What are you thoughts? With only a few countries being recognized as having multiple marriages/partners being allowed, should the western world be lenient as to be able to have your very own harem? Although most people will see it as male fantasy, i'm pretty sure there are women who would love to have more then just 1 lover as well? We see it a lot in anime, but would it work in real life? Would having more then 1 partner be frowned upon?(taking religious perspectives out of the picture) what are your views? |
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Aug 8, 2009 10:13 AM
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I'm pro-polygamy. I like the marriage system of Doctor Phlox from Star Trek Enterprise. |
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Aug 8, 2009 10:14 AM
#3
Western Views on Polygamy is that it is evil. Because usually the only people that are polygamist in this country are scary ass christian assholes that have like 6 wives, some of the wives are their daughters, and he rapes and beats em every day, because he thinks males are better. My opinion on the subject is that I think that a polygamist relationship could work, just not with people who are extremely possessive and insane. |
Aug 8, 2009 10:22 AM
#5
To each his own, right? I personally don't think a child should be raised in that sort of environment but as far as relationships are concerned you should be able to marry as many people as you want. I have no idea how that would affect taxes and other economics though. |
Aug 8, 2009 10:22 AM
#6
I think that polygamy is just as likely to work out as monogamy, if not more so. I mean, just look at the current stats of monogamy. Teaching two people they can have on person and only one, leads to unneeded strain on one person. Some people are made for monogamy, some people are made for polygamy. If I am to be married, the most important thing to me is that he or she still loves me, not that I am the only one he or she loves. I'm perfectly fine being husband to someone with more than one. But I don't want to have more than one female. So the optimal situation for me, heterosexually, in the whole polygamy matter, would be polyandry, a form of polygamy(many people confuse polygamy to mean male only, when it's sex neutral, polygyny is the word for man who has multiple wives). Also, the "harems" in anime don't lead to polygamy. It just means that said person has many people to choose from. Main character chooses one, or doesn't so the show can continue, and the rest remain as friends, at best. And harem is different from polygamy in that polygamy holds partners to a higher status than a "harem". A real life harem would imply concubines. |
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Aug 8, 2009 10:38 AM
#7
truthfully it would never work...if you mix feelings into a 3,4,5 way relationship, someones gonna get hurt....the people in that relationship would have to be soooo open minded...or very obedient like them concubines for polygamy to work ohh...and harems can lead to polagamy but is not the art of it like what unk said^ |
Aug 8, 2009 11:58 AM
#8
As long as wives don't get jealous like fug then it's fine. Though I doubt they wouldn't. Then again, it's not like adultery, jealousy, etcetc aren't common enough already in our current position. |
Aug 8, 2009 12:31 PM
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Aug 8, 2009 12:34 PM
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Aug 8, 2009 12:36 PM
#11
Dr_Qwerty said: Back it up, bro.Wow, am I the only one to post so far that is against this? |
Aug 8, 2009 12:51 PM
#12
Tachii said: Dr_Qwerty said: Back it up, bro.Wow, am I the only one to post so far that is against this? Well, from what I've seen on the news about polygamy, it seems to be a forced thing. The girls are raised to be married at young ages (At 13, I believe they are supposed to be married) to much older men. I would doubt little girls would want to marry a man at that age. |
Aug 8, 2009 12:53 PM
#13
Dr_Qwerty said: Tachii said: Dr_Qwerty said: Back it up, bro.Wow, am I the only one to post so far that is against this? Well, from what I've seen on the news about polygamy, it seems to be a forced thing. The girls are raised to be married at young ages (At 13, I believe they are supposed to be married) to much older men. I would doubt little girls would want to marry a man at that age. Polygamy != Pedophilia Why discriminate against monogamous pedophiles? |
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Aug 8, 2009 12:57 PM
#14
Dr_Qwerty said: Well, from what I've seen on the news about polygamy, it seems to be a forced thing. The girls are raised to be married at young ages (At 13, I believe they are supposed to be married) to much older men. I would doubt little girls would want to marry a man at that age. Oh... that's that... one building... in Texas... Um, this place: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24014376/ Case in point. Polygamy is illegal. |
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Aug 8, 2009 12:59 PM
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Tachii said: As long as wives don't get jealous Or husbands. Polyandry is Polygamy too. |
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Aug 8, 2009 1:01 PM
#16
My bad, polygyny was the one with only husbands. |
Aug 8, 2009 1:13 PM
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Aug 8, 2009 1:20 PM
#18
Dr_Qwerty said: Tachii said: Dr_Qwerty said: Back it up, bro.Wow, am I the only one to post so far that is against this? Well, from what I've seen on the news about polygamy, it seems to be a forced thing. The girls are raised to be married at young ages (At 13, I believe they are supposed to be married) to much older men. I would doubt little girls would want to marry a man at that age. you should be pissed off at that, that is pure goddamn evil. But polygamy does not equal that kind of extremely fucked up perverse incest bullshit. Polygamy is simply a marriage of more than two people. |
Aug 8, 2009 1:21 PM
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motoko09 said: 'cause it's illigal I've never understood while people will agree or disagree with something just because it's a law. The world is filled with unjust laws. Some would argue that laws themselves are unjust. And the idea of violating the rights of people to do what they want with authoritarian laws that do not encroach upon the rights of others, violates certain ethical ideas. |
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Aug 8, 2009 1:27 PM
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ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: 'cause it's illigal I've never understood while people will agree or disagree with something just because it's a law. The world is filled with unjust laws. Some would argue that laws themselves are unjust. And the idea of violating the rights of people to do what they want with authoritarian laws that do not encroach upon the rights of others, violates certain ethical ideas. More to be illigale it is immoral, do you think that being attached to many husbands is something which a human's brain can possibly understand ? |
Aug 8, 2009 1:29 PM
#21
motoko09 said: do you think that being attached to many husbands is something which a human's brain can possibly understand ? What exactly about having multiple husbands is harder to understand that having one? |
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Aug 8, 2009 1:31 PM
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ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: do you think that being attached to many husbands is something which a human's brain can possibly understand ? What exactly about having multiple husbands is harder to understand that having one? Because marriage is all about dedication. if you have 2 spouses, how can you be sure you're dedicated to both of them equally? |
Aug 8, 2009 1:32 PM
#23
One possible reason why polygamy is difficult to achieve is because our sun is only a hydrogen sun, and hydrogen contains only two molecules, a single positively-charged proton and a single negatively-charged electron. Bearing in mind that the Earth is solely reliant on the sun, it would make sense to suggest that humans on this dimensional level find it easier to be compatible in coupling relationships. I've also read that on other planets, other alien life's relationships do correspond with how many suns they have and what kind they are... ...ISN'T THAT SOMETHING! I'm inside the polygamy camp, though I'm of the school of thought that believe it best to not label it anything and devote/respect/communicate yourself with whoever you need to, repress nothing, allow and accept everything. |
Aug 8, 2009 1:36 PM
#24
There shouldn't be any problem with that unless one or more of the participants are extremely prone to jealousy. Really, a bunch of men and women being married and living together as friends and lovers, if it works for them, it works. I think it is ridiculous that it is illegal in so many places. If someone wanted to give it a try, why not? If it does backfire, then they will only hurt themselves, but people have to take responsibility for their actions after all. |
Aug 8, 2009 1:48 PM
#25
Dr_Qwerty said: ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: do you think that being attached to many husbands is something which a human's brain can possibly understand ? What exactly about having multiple husbands is harder to understand that having one? Because marriage is all about dedication. Nice fairytale world you live in there |
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Aug 8, 2009 3:15 PM
#26
I'm okay with polygamy, so long as it's agreed upon by everyone in the relationship. To each their own, yo. |
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Aug 8, 2009 3:18 PM
#27
I don't have any specific opinion about it.. It is not bad, nor good for me.. Just.. Somehow normal.. Although I do not live in a country which allows this, I can't see it bad.. Unless the male is terrorizing females, that is whole other story... But, without terror, I don't see why Polygamy should be described as something bad.. |
Aug 8, 2009 3:27 PM
#28
ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: 'cause it's illigal I've never understood while people will agree or disagree with something just because it's a law. The world is filled with unjust laws. Some would argue that laws themselves are unjust. And the idea of violating the rights of people to do what they want with authoritarian laws that do not encroach upon the rights of others, violates certain ethical ideas. Since when is Polygamy a right? It's rightfully banned, and it shall remain that way. Monogamy has always been the societal model, whether it be religiously backed or not. It's hard enough for couples to function together, but they manage. To add more people into that kind of a mix increases complexities and problems. |
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Aug 8, 2009 6:45 PM
#29
KyuuA4 said: ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: 'cause it's illigal I've never understood while people will agree or disagree with something just because it's a law. The world is filled with unjust laws. Some would argue that laws themselves are unjust. And the idea of violating the rights of people to do what they want with authoritarian laws that do not encroach upon the rights of others, violates certain ethical ideas. Since when is Polygamy a right? It's rightfully banned, and it shall remain that way. Monogamy has always been the societal model, whether it be religiously backed or not. It's hard enough for couples to function together, but they manage. To add more people into that kind of a mix increases complexities and problems. We should remove relationships altogether. Makes it easier. Also, all non-public transportation should be outlawed. It's so complicated with everyone driving everywhere like that. We should actually hasten the arrival of heat death. To make things easier. Having complex molecules just complicate things. To quit making a strawman out of you: What the shunizzle? The law is now not about making sure people do not harm eachother's freedoms, but that their life is not too complicated. Ludicruous is the least word I can ascribe this supposed opinion. If people want their lives to be "complicated" (granting here the unargued-for supposed fact that it does get more complicated), why not? Must I always take the shortest route to work because I shouldn't complicate things by taking a path I actually like instead? And lol, "always"? No. There are places with polygamy even right at this very moment. And... So what if it would have been always-monogamy? People have always killed eachother, too. |
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Aug 8, 2009 7:04 PM
#30
Alright. We're gonna have to go situational. Aside from law and societal norms -- why is monogamy practiced? As people - with a significant other - we want 100% attention. Or at least 90%. People get jealous when this sort of attention is... "inadequate", even though such people may need to work on themselves as well. How many times do you hear this problem? A boyfriend or girlfriend becoming worried that their partner is cheating on them. When so-and-so find out -- boom. Feelings hurt. People are upset. There goes the neighborhood. Just by very nature and INSTINCTS alone -- WE -- as people -- do not want mating partners engaging in "extra" activities with other people. Plenty plenty of people are quite possessive in this department. Especially women, who in a latter part of a relationship would not mind being with their man -- where ever they go. Here's Chris Rock's point regarding female jealousy: Stable relationships are BEST implemented ONE-TO-ONE. For evident, just look at old couples who have been together all the way to the Golden Anniversary (50 years). Through thick and thin, they made it all through the long haul called life. Of course, there are the failed arrangments demonstrated by the divorce rate. To explain that, they simply did not work things out. It happens. Kaiserpingvin said: People have always killed eachother, too. Sadly. Some have taken that jealousy... went as far as killing. Crimes of passion, if you will. Kaiserpingvin said: There are places with polygamy even right at this very moment. Where? |
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Aug 8, 2009 7:35 PM
#31
KyuuA4 said: Alright. We're gonna have to go situational. Aside from law and societal norms -- why is monogamy practiced? As people - with a significant other - we want 100% attention. Or at least 90%. People get jealous when this sort of attention is... "inadequate", even though such people may need to work on themselves as well. How many times do you hear this problem? A boyfriend or girlfriend becoming worried that their partner is cheating on them. When so-and-so find out -- boom. Feelings hurt. People are upset. There goes the neighborhood. Just by very nature and INSTINCTS alone -- WE -- as people -- do not want mating partners engaging in "extra" activities with other people. Plenty plenty of people are quite possessive in this department. Especially women, who in a latter part of a relationship would not mind being with their man -- where ever they go. Here's Chris Rock's point regarding female jealousy: [removed for being a 'comedian' and not a member of Monty Python, which is impossible] Stable relationships are BEST implemented ONE-TO-ONE. To cut your argument down to size: People are jealous AND more people in a relationship increases jealousy AND jealousy means complexity AND complexity is bad IMPLIES that having many people in a relationship is bad. The form is good. Given the premises, it does follow. Though. Every single one of the premises is either unsupported or false. 1) People are jealous - Eh no. Little snippet of information - people are different. While I am a horrible example - being a user of MAL and a reader of philosophy I naturally have never gotten close to any kind of relatinoship - I would not feel jealous. Why? Because it makes no sense. It is a stupid feeling and I frankly do not see how it works. Now, I don't think I am some kind of super-rare, deviant pseudo-human, I do think there is quite a few people with quite similar attitudes. The law chops in and cuts them off from getting together with as many respectives as they actually want. Now that is nothing short of cruel and ueseless - absolutely nothing is gained. So - What is the law supposed to hinder? Jealousy, which not everyone feels? Second point - ever considered that this is how they feel because they live in monogamic societies instead of vice versa? You must clearly establish the eventual direction of the chain of causation, my man. If you can't then your supposed argument is hogwash and any claim can be given. 2) More people in a relationship increases jealousy - Why? If they all love eachother 'sall okay is it not? 3) Jealousy means complexity - No. Jealousy can be quite simple, I'm sure. It's your strongest point though. 4) Complexity is bad - No. Because, well, bad is relative. If you are willing to complicate your life, then why shouldn't you be allowed to? Because it is possible that it will lead to some emotions which can possibly lead to other emotions which can possibly lead to someone getting slapped? Also, not everyone needs/wants stable relationships. And as for the most important point. Give proof. Don't just claim. I could also just randomly claim things you can't refute because I do not give sources to studies or anything. It would feel sort of sheepish, you know. To stand there and go, "Oh man. That bro over there be arguin' and I can't answer. Because it isn't an argument but the fallacy of blind assertion." I have done my best to try to not do this, of course. So you won't have to be in that seat. Sadly. Some have taken that jealousy... went as far as killing. Crimes of passion, if you will. Sadly... arguments that bad have led to people facepalming. Crimes of head-hand-connection, if you will. The Manson family murdered among other things because of Helter Skelter. Many have killed in the name of God. So... Outlaw The Beatles and theism. They only complicate matters. I bet there are people who are jealous at God having all of Fred Phelp's love, too. Where? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_polygamy Also, According to the Ethnographic Atlas Codebook, of the 1231 societies noted, 186 were monogamous. 453 had occasional polygyny, 588 had more frequent polygyny, and 4 had polyandry. [->] |
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Aug 8, 2009 7:46 PM
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Aug 8, 2009 7:58 PM
#33
I'm against. |
Aug 8, 2009 8:23 PM
#34
KyuuA4 said: Alright. We're gonna have to go situational. Aside from law and societal norms -- why is monogamy practiced? As people - with a significant other - we want 100% attention. Or at least 90%. People get jealous when this sort of attention is... "inadequate", even though such people may need to work on themselves as well. How many times do you hear this problem? A boyfriend or girlfriend becoming worried that their partner is cheating on them. When so-and-so find out -- boom. Feelings hurt. People are upset. There goes the neighborhood. Just by very nature and INSTINCTS alone -- WE -- as people -- do not want mating partners engaging in "extra" activities with other people. Plenty plenty of people are quite possessive in this department. Especially women, who in a latter part of a relationship would not mind being with their man -- where ever they go. Here's Chris Rock's point regarding female jealousy: Stable relationships are BEST implemented ONE-TO-ONE. For evident, just look at old couples who have been together all the way to the Golden Anniversary (50 years). Through thick and thin, they made it all through the long haul called life. Of course, there are the failed arrangments demonstrated by the divorce rate. To explain that, they simply did not work things out. It happens. Kaiserpingvin said: People have always killed eachother, too. Sadly. Some have taken that jealousy... went as far as killing. Crimes of passion, if you will. Kaiserpingvin said: There are places with polygamy even right at this very moment. Where? Have you EVER had a significant other that wasn't a huge drama filled bitch? I used to talk to this girl on Deviantart. She was heavy into polygamy. She had 3 or 4 boyfriends. Yes they all knew about each other, and had nice epic sexy chats almost every day. Now the kind of love they had wasn't complete and total obsession, which I think is fucking horrible in a relationshit, but you could tell they all had a really deep relationship. They knew about each other in a very deep way, and it worked out really well. Yes it is one women and a bunch of men, but you make the assumption that men and women are somehow DIFFERENT IN THE BRAIN TO THE POINT THAT THEY ARE ANOTHER SPECIES. There are only 5 differences between women and men. Vaginas Tits periods estrogen > testosterone and most importantly SOCIAL UPBRINGINGS. That last one is what I am getting at. Women are raised to be fucking insane by society, but not all of them are. There are exceptions out there, you just have to look for them. |
Aug 8, 2009 8:55 PM
#35
Kaiserpingvin said: 4) Complexity is bad - No. Because, well, bad is relative. If you are willing to complicate your life, then why shouldn't you be allowed to? I'm dumping that Complexity post, until I can say it better. :p iBear said: That last one is what I am getting at. Women are raised to be fucking insane by society, but not all of them are. There are exceptions out there, you just have to look for them. Well, it's a common saying that, "Men are stupid, Women are crazy". If you want, feel free to add the quantifier "all". The exceptions, they're mighty rare. And yes, I'd be quite envious of anyone with a "rare". iBear said: I used to talk to this girl on Deviantart. She was heavy into polygamy. She had 3 or 4 boyfriends. Yes they all knew about each other, and had nice epic sexy chats almost every day. Now the kind of love they had wasn't complete and total obsession, which I think is fucking horrible in a relationshit, but you could tell they all had a really deep relationship. They knew about each other in a very deep way, and it worked out really well. Kaiserpingvin said: More people in a relationship increases jealousy - Why? If they all love eachother 'sall okay is it not? I'd hate to see how that situation turns out -- when you throw in possessions (like income, assets, etc.). The legal situation is obvious; so I won't go there. Even with a small cluster of people, distribution will NOT be equal. Sooner or later, someone's going to be on the short end of the stick (in terms of ownership, privileges, and authority) and will clamor for more. Soon, that love becomes dominated by financial issues, where I note at least half of divorces fall because of financial situations. Kaiserpingvin said: Outlaw The Beatles and theism. They only complicate matters. I bet there are people who are jealous at God having all of Fred Phelp's love, too. The Phelps. As a Christian myself -- those freaks do NOT represent God. Not with their hate-filled messages. Just lettin' ya know, bud. Kaiserpingvin said: While I am a horrible example - being a user of MAL and a reader of philosophy I naturally have never gotten close to any kind of relatinoship - I would not feel jealous. Why? Because it makes no sense. It is a stupid feeling and I frankly do not see how it works. If that's the case, then you won't mind parting away with things that you own, for example. Jealousy (lesser form "envy") and possession tied together. Person A has more stuff than Person B. Person B feels envious. At times, Person B can't help it, even if he knows better. As an example, at times, that's how I end up feeling when once in a blue moon, I see a driver in a Ferrari. Likewise, as a single man - older man - mind you. I see a man with an attractive woman. At times, I do end up feeling some bit of envy here and there; before, I talk myself into thinking patience with the hope of "someday". NOTE: This is not just personal "evidence". It's a common situation. Kaiserpingvin said: Second point - ever considered that this is how they feel because they live in monogamic societies instead of vice versa? Society had a chance to develop polygamy. I believe, those people outside the Roman Empire practiced it. Kaiserpingvin said: Give proof. Don't just claim. I could also just randomly claim things you can't refute because I do not give sources to studies or anything. It would feel sort of sheepish, you know. To stand there and go, "Oh man. That bro over there be arguin' and I can't answer. Because it isn't an argument but the fallacy of blind assertion." I merely think of all that dating advice that I managed to have read during the past year. But, I'll tell you something that I read from that material. Women in a latter stage of a relationship stick to ONE man. Why? I don't know; it's what they do. You can be a guy, take a woman to some place and she won't care - just as long as she's with him. And yes. Women can be rather crazy in this way. It's part of their INSTINCTS (or hormones). All that estrogen that iBear points out, help make them that way. Of course, the relationship maintains itself provided that the couple fullfill each other's needs and/or wants. That naturally depends on the people involved. Need. Want. I have to wonder. What sort of "needs" and "wants" could polygamy fullfill better than monogamy? Later on. We'll touch up on the human nature of competition. |
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Aug 8, 2009 9:04 PM
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Aug 8, 2009 9:08 PM
#37
Not for it. I think it can cause too much strife in the marriages because of jealousy among the wives of a husband or vice versa. The guy might prefer one wife over the other, and because of that there will be jealousy among the other woman, leading to strife. Not a good thing in a household. |
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Aug 8, 2009 9:10 PM
#38
Even if a Man looks at another Woman (even with a minute amount of desire) -- he's in trouble. |
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Aug 8, 2009 11:56 PM
#39
So many people are engaged in serial polygamy - marry one, get tired of that one, divorce; then marry another one. Geez, you don't need to marry them, seriously. WTF? You a masochist? Want massive headaches? Have your harem...no need for the license, man. |
Aug 9, 2009 12:02 AM
#40
polygamy=good for females. Allows for a better mate, etc etc. Polygamy=bad for males Decreased probability for a mate, etc etc Or at least, that was why polygamy was evolutionarily advantageous and why it's not so outrageous to see it. |
Aug 9, 2009 12:02 AM
#41
KyuuA4 said: Even if a Man looks at another Woman (even with a minute amount of desire) -- he's in trouble. Not if your girlfriend isn't a total bitch. She just needs to accept that there are billions of hot women you will probably unavoidably eye-rape, no matter how great she is. If anything take it as a compliment I checked the alternatives and decided to come back. rTz said: Dr_Qwerty said: ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: do you think that being attached to many husbands is something which a human's brain can possibly understand ? What exactly about having multiple husbands is harder to understand that having one? Because marriage is all about dedication. Hahaha. Oh wow. It's actually mostly about what you keep when you get divorced. Marriage is ridiculously stupid, and polygamy operates on an awesome idea. We just gotta get some Brave New World stuff going so the entire globe can become one huge orgy filled opium den. Bam, relationships gone and with them all related issues. |
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Aug 9, 2009 12:09 AM
#42
KyuuA4 said: Monogamy has always been the societal model, lolwat. |
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Aug 9, 2009 12:37 AM
#44
so let me reiterate the OP a bit if polygamy was legal in every country and you had a choice, would you practice it? if your one and only partner did, would you feel jealous? taking the humor out of whats been said so far, in an ideal world where people are free to do what they want.....could polygamy really work? for males or females? |
Aug 9, 2009 2:25 AM
#45
mightykid218 said: KyuuA4 said: Even if a Man looks at another Woman (even with a minute amount of desire) -- he's in trouble. Not if your girlfriend isn't a total bitch. She just needs to accept that there are billions of hot women you will probably unavoidably eye-rape, no matter how great she is. If anything take it as a compliment I checked the alternatives and decided to come back. rTz said: Dr_Qwerty said: ukonkivi said: motoko09 said: do you think that being attached to many husbands is something which a human's brain can possibly understand ? What exactly about having multiple husbands is harder to understand that having one? Because marriage is all about dedication. Hahaha. Oh wow. It's actually mostly about what you keep when you get divorced. Marriage is ridiculously stupid, and polygamy operates on an awesome idea. We just gotta get some Brave New World stuff going so the entire globe can become one huge orgy filled opium den. Bam, relationships gone and with them all related issues. I'm in. |
Aug 9, 2009 3:14 AM
#46
I don't see in the least why polygamy would be forbidden, under any circumstance. As long as all parties consent, how could there be anything against it? Religion shouldn't get in the way of a secularized state, and the same thing can be said for conventional morality. For anyone who thinks Polygamy "wouldn't work", i'd refer you to Islam. Polygamy has been in place in 1400 years, and it's still pretty generally accepted. Also, another point with polygamy in Islam is that most adults will never become polygamous, with only a small percentage actually becoming so. So if it was implemented into modern society, i doubt a large part of the demographic would suddenly attempt on getting multiple wives, because let's face it, most are very happy with one. And then we're not even talking about the simple fact that women and men are 50-50 on this world (well not precisely, but you get the idea), meaning that large scale polygamy wouldn't work in the first place. |
Aug 9, 2009 4:24 AM
#47
TensaiShonen said: Dude, why don't you just edit your OP instead? It's not like anyone will click the third page and look around the middle to notice that the topic has changed.so let me reiterate the OP a bit if polygamy was legal in every country and you had a choice, would you practice it? if your one and only partner did, would you feel jealous? taking the humor out of whats been said so far, in an ideal world where people are free to do what they want.....could polygamy really work? for males or females? And monogamy is only favored because it's the "correct" way of marriage from the religious perspective. But really, there's not even a real need to get married. When one is married, they're practically bound to another, with common sayings like "I'm stuck with you for the rest of your life." or some sort. I think when that happens, jealousy would occur way more often. And jealousy only comes when there's a lack of understanding, as I see it. Despite this thing called selfishness, people also like sharing. Sharing knowledge, material objects, hobbies, etc. Sharing a loved one isn't probably really that bad either. But since it's not socially accepted, it's what's keep people to frown at it. And when something is frowned upon (if not biased) in the negative light, then it's pretty hard for anyone to see the benefit for it. It's probably too radical at the moment though. So if sharing a loved one is socially accepted to be a good thing, I would assume that jealousy and whatever else that comes with marriage will disappear. It won't be like, "you cheated on me?!" but more like "did you have a good time, dear?" But lol, still too radical isn't it? |
TachiiAug 9, 2009 4:41 AM
Aug 9, 2009 8:40 AM
#48
KyuuA4 said: iBear said: That last one is what I am getting at. Women are raised to be fucking insane by society, but not all of them are. There are exceptions out there, you just have to look for them. Well, it's a common saying that, "Men are stupid, Women are crazy". If you want, feel free to add the quantifier "all". The exceptions, they're mighty rare. And yes, I'd be quite envious of anyone with a "rare". You ever seen/read Misery? You know,that awesome movie/book about the totally Yandere bitch that kidnaps an author and forces him to live with her up in the middle of nowhere. There are a few epic scenes where she breaks his legs so that he can not get away. I am not sure if you are aware of this, but most women are not that fucking crazy. Most women would not force double suicide on their men so that she would own him forever. Actually, a lot of women are very very cool people. It is just that you never see em for some reason. (Some are shut ins, some go to non popular clubs to hang out, all sorts of reasons) You have to just extend your neck out a bit, and, ESPECIALLY if you live in a bigger city, you will find them. The problem most people seem to have with relationships is that the one puts the other on a pedestal, and expects them to live up to it. That is part of the delusion of love. That is why women are fucking insane, they think they have THE PERFECT MAN, and is extremely possessive about him. As well as she expects him to live up to the image she has of him. This is not normal, this is a product of ignorance of what a relationship is, as well as a product of societies influence on the female mind. If you removed this, polygamy could work. And one more thing. POLYGAMY ISN'T ONE MEN AND A BUNCH OF WOMEN, IT IS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MEN AND WOMEN? HELL YEAH ONE WOMAN AND A BUNCH OF MEN? HELL YEAH ANY COMBINATION IN BETWEEN? HELL YEAH |
Aug 9, 2009 9:14 AM
#49
i3ear said: POLYGAMY ISN'T ONE MEN AND A BUNCH OF WOMEN, IT IS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MEN AND WOMEN? HELL YEAH ONE WOMAN AND A BUNCH OF MEN? HELL YEAH ANY COMBINATION IN BETWEEN? HELL YEAH I think this is what many are missing. Polygamy can involve any number of men or women as long as there are 3 or more in total, so the whole "not enough women" idea is irrelevant. |
Aug 9, 2009 9:25 AM
#50
Well, clearly even the OP didn't really know what he was talking about as he relate it to harem. Polygamy is too broad when it has like 4+ different sects and people just assumed it was polygyny when he said harem. |
TachiiAug 9, 2009 10:08 AM
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