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Aug 27, 2015 10:38 AM
#101
What part of Haikyuu is unrealistic exactly? Especially the part that makes it less realistic the Goro's 100mph gyroball, a pitch that really doesn't exist especially at that speed. And Prince of Tennis is more realistic than KnB?!?!? Like do you watch sports? If Midorima is what makes KnB the most unrealistic thing ever, have a look this Natural shooting motion from 47ft away Also check KnB S3's episode thread, myself, Torrible and a handful of other users made more than enough cases against those calling bullshit for every action in the series. |
Aug 27, 2015 10:42 AM
#102
KnB is unrealistic. Don't see any leeway to argue against that. |
Aug 27, 2015 10:43 AM
#103
Aug 27, 2015 10:44 AM
#104
HaXXspetten said: Something being technically possible to achieve doesn't make it probable enough to not feel forced you know Yes. Most of the things in KnB are not impossible but they are improbable, hence why it's unrealistic. |
Aug 27, 2015 10:50 AM
#105
Aug 27, 2015 10:51 AM
#106
ibear said: I get that, but if you've seen Prince of Tennis it shows things that at the absolute least we've never seen achieved in any capacity. KnB includes actions that are totally plausible, that we have seen done before, then it exaggerates them. Yeah that's why I said Prince of Tennis should be above KnB. |
Aug 27, 2015 10:53 AM
#107
EverydayIfight said: I agree with that 100%, I was questioning the other guy, not you.ibear said: I get that, but if you've seen Prince of Tennis it shows things that at the absolute least we've never seen achieved in any capacity. KnB includes actions that are totally plausible, that we have seen done before, then it exaggerates them. Yeah that's why I said Prince of Tennis should be above KnB. |
Aug 27, 2015 3:21 PM
#108
If 3gatsu will adapted as Japanimation, Sports Japanimation will receive a new light |
Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
Aug 27, 2015 3:24 PM
#109
Karadzic said: If 3gatsu will adapted as Japanimation, Sports Japanimation will receive a new light shogi's a game not a sport |
Aug 27, 2015 3:26 PM
#110
Spots anime is okay and most school anime always have some kind of sports to it. |
Aug 27, 2015 3:27 PM
#111
The amount of teenagers on this website that create threads with the word "hate" in them is actually astonishing. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Aug 27, 2015 3:29 PM
#112
Jerkhov said: Karadzic said: If 3gatsu will adapted as Japanimation, Sports Japanimation will receive a new light shogi's a game not a sport When it comes to anime, "Game" genre tends to do with getting trapped in a video game, so it's probably best to lump the physical game animes together with the sport ones, including that one about Go as well. |
Aug 27, 2015 3:37 PM
#114
ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. What makes Kuroko the most unrealistic? All it does is exaggerate everything they do to make it more enjoyable, it should be near the lower ones. |
Aug 27, 2015 4:02 PM
#116
EverydayIfight said: ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. I think you ranking is inaccurate. Prince of Tennis has balls being on fire and secret moves and such. I would put it at the top. One Outs is more realistic than EyeShield21. Ping Pong is more realistic than Hajime no Ippo. Seninen usually are more realistic than shounen. Because sports shounen has the same flare as battle shounen manga. Agreed, it's been a while since I've watched Prince of Tennis so I forget, and yeah for the ones I haven't finished watching, I'm probably wrong. One Outs and Eyeshield21 are pretty close imo. Factually, Eyeshield21 is more unrealistic I suppose but there's just something about One Outs... dunno |
ShiroiMufflerAug 27, 2015 4:05 PM
Aug 27, 2015 4:04 PM
#118
Xarvyn said: ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. What makes Kuroko the most unrealistic? All it does is exaggerate everything they do to make it more enjoyable, it should be near the lower ones. KnB has supernatural shit... but as discussed, Prince of Tennis is probably above Kuroko. |
Aug 27, 2015 4:17 PM
#119
I don't think I've seen any, but I wouldn't mind watching them. |
Aug 27, 2015 4:24 PM
#120
Most sports anime I have seen were enjoyable. Ashita no Joe tho |
Aug 27, 2015 4:31 PM
#121
Holybaptiser said: The amount of teenagers on this website that create threads with the word "hate" in them is actually astonishing. Well, I'm not a teenager but I don't understand your point. Can people over 20 not use the word hate? Do they not hate things? Or is using the word hate wrong because we don't really 'hate' them? Like if someone said. "I hate verizon"? |
Aug 27, 2015 4:58 PM
#122
ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. nah, wouldn't put ippo near the realistic side. maybe in the middle, along with major. one outs is realistic. it just uses ridiculous strategies baby steps would be near the end POT definitely at the top. nothing else other than the soccer anime (inazuma eleven) can compete. i'd put ookiku furikabutte at the end |
Aug 27, 2015 4:59 PM
#123
Aug 27, 2015 5:06 PM
#126
ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. bad list |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 27, 2015 5:11 PM
#127
khunter said: Holybaptiser said: The amount of teenagers on this website that create threads with the word "hate" in them is actually astonishing. Well, I'm not a teenager but I don't understand your point. Can people over 20 not use the word hate? Do they not hate things? Or is using the word hate wrong because we don't really 'hate' them? Like if someone said. "I hate verizon"? The use of the word over ridiculously mundane things is a sign of immaturity or simply that you do not know how to articulate a feeling better than a word you use without it having the meaning it is intended to have and that's what led me to comment on teenagers. Furthermore, it is like everyone on this forum is so bored out of their minds that they feel inclined to create multiple threads on the same topic without actually checking around to see if there hasn't been a hundred others like it and they all end up about hating this or that. When I posted my comment earlier, I saw 3 threads in the top 5-6 threads with the word hate in them, which were exact duplicates of ones I've seen so many times before. It gets incredibly redundant. I'm no advocate for a "better MAL" since I've been a part of this website for long enough to confidently claim that this site is a shit show with terrible mods, but some things just need to have a limit. inb4 I get banned. I don't give a fuck. Get at me Luna_. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Aug 27, 2015 5:25 PM
#128
FGAU1912 said: ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. bad list bad comment. So is good list reverse order? I mean I put some animes I didn't finish watching so I can't be reliable there. Other than those... If you exchange Prince of Tennis with Kuroko, and One Outs with Eyeshield, that's pretty much the general consensus. |
Aug 27, 2015 5:28 PM
#129
The only sports anime I've watched so far is Kuroko No Basuke and I enjoyed it a lot. So I don't mind them and will probably watch more sport anime in the future. |
Aug 27, 2015 5:28 PM
#130
Ping Pong is the only one I need, don't care about the rest. |
Aug 27, 2015 5:40 PM
#132
ShiroiMuffler said: FGAU1912 said: ShiroiMuffler said: Here's sort of the hierarchy from most unrealistic to realistic, roughly: Kuroko no Basket Prince of Tennis One Outs (doesn't even feel like a sports anime) Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu Major Ping Pong (haven't watched much of this but I'd put it here) Hajime No Ippo (have not finished) Slam Dunk I've excluded sports anime that are more about drama than sport. bad list bad comment. So is good list reverse order? I mean I put some animes I didn't finish watching so I can't be reliable there. Other than those... If you exchange Prince of Tennis with Kuroko, and One Outs with Eyeshield, that's pretty much the general consensus. my list of the most realtsic sports manga/ anime realitsic abu san [ manga only] base ball] the logest sport manga ever Hikari no densetsu [ Rhythmic gym] Kyojin no Hoshi Ashita no joe Akachi no 11 8-gatsu no Hikari[ manga only] Slam Dunk Esu no nare Dokaben[ this franchse is like a bio of the lead from school to the majors] Attack no1 suzuka ---------------- unreal Kuroko no Basket[ bulshit leat real sports anime ever made but over all yu can see it tok it cues form ring ni kakero difrent sport same level of mystsaism ] Prince of Tennis One Outs [ toch is better over all] Eyeshield 21 Haikyuu [ attack no1 is far more realistic] Hajime No Ippo Captin tsubasa as much a si love this franchise its far from realistic ore rela than inazuma but that no that hard ot do ] abu san is the most realtisc baseball based thing ever in manga or anime ten oji is w to typically shounen to be realistic |
DateYutakaAug 27, 2015 5:45 PM
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 27, 2015 5:43 PM
#133
Aug 27, 2015 5:46 PM
#134
Caticia1 said: I hates sports with a ultimate passion so obviously i wouldn't be too fond of the sports genre either, but i have found some sports anime that i liked like free and i heard kuroko no basket is good which i'm planning on watching soon :) skip and watch slam dunk |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 27, 2015 5:50 PM
#135
FGAU1912 said: Caticia1 said: I hates sports with a ultimate passion so obviously i wouldn't be too fond of the sports genre either, but i have found some sports anime that i liked like free and i heard kuroko no basket is good which i'm planning on watching soon :) skip and watch slam dunk Both are great, depends on what you want. Those that enjoyed Free a lot, will most probably like Kuroko no Basket, if you know what i mean :P |
Aug 27, 2015 5:58 PM
#136
FGAU1912 said: Seriously, how???????unreal Kuroko no Basket[ bulshit leat real sports anime ever made but over all yu can see it tok it cues form ring ni kakero difrent sport same level of mystsaism ] Prince of Tennis These are things in Prince of Tennis While in KnB there is a totally realistic element to everything bar Eagle/Hawk Eyes and Haizaki's copy. And I'm waiting for someone to tell my what so unrealistic about Haikyuu! |
Aug 27, 2015 6:03 PM
#137
ibear said: FGAU1912 said: Seriously, how???????unreal Kuroko no Basket[ bulshit leat real sports anime ever made but over all yu can see it tok it cues form ring ni kakero difrent sport same level of mystsaism ] Prince of Tennis These are things in Prince of Tennis While in KnB there is a totally realistic element to everything bar Eagle/Hawk Eyes and Haizaki's copy. And I'm waiting for someone to tell my what so unrealistic about Haikyuu! the un real side of the list in not really not in nay order |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 27, 2015 6:04 PM
#138
ibear said: FGAU1912 said: Seriously, how???????unreal Kuroko no Basket[ bulshit leat real sports anime ever made but over all yu can see it tok it cues form ring ni kakero difrent sport same level of mystsaism ] Prince of Tennis These are things in Prince of Tennis While in KnB there is a totally realistic element to everything bar Eagle/Hawk Eyes and Haizaki's copy. And I'm waiting for someone to tell my what so unrealistic about Haikyuu! It's probably just newer so more fresh in our minds. Prince of Tennis is arguably more unrealistic. The generation of miracles all had supernatural ability... copy ability is realistic??? Haikyuu is in the middle, or slightly on the realistic side, but the timing between the two mains is a little far-fetched. It's similar to how Major (if you've watched that) has the gyroball. |
Aug 27, 2015 6:09 PM
#139
ibear said: FGAU1912 said: Seriously, how???????unreal Kuroko no Basket[ bulshit leat real sports anime ever made but over all yu can see it tok it cues form ring ni kakero difrent sport same level of mystsaism ] Prince of Tennis These are things in Prince of Tennis While in KnB there is a totally realistic element to everything bar Eagle/Hawk Eyes and Haizaki's copy. And I'm waiting for someone to tell my what so unrealistic about Haikyuu! cough cough even in manga someone can block gunshot by tennis ball how unrealistic is that!!!!!the artstyle didn't help it at all when the story present is so unrealistic. and let's me honestly here PoP is generic Battle Manga/Anime now it's not even sport in my book everyone use special move like nothing and beating up each other instead win by score. |
neolucamanAug 27, 2015 6:20 PM
Aug 27, 2015 6:21 PM
#140
FGAU1912 said: Caticia1 said: I hates sports with a ultimate passion so obviously i wouldn't be too fond of the sports genre either, but i have found some sports anime that i liked like free and i heard kuroko no basket is good which i'm planning on watching soon :) skip and watch slam dunk ignore and continue to watch free/knb :) ibear said: FGAU1912 said: Seriously, how???????unreal Kuroko no Basket[ bulshit leat real sports anime ever made but over all yu can see it tok it cues form ring ni kakero difrent sport same level of mystsaism ] Prince of Tennis These are things in Prince of Tennis While in KnB there is a totally realistic element to everything bar Eagle/Hawk Eyes and Haizaki's copy. And I'm waiting for someone to tell my what so unrealistic about Haikyuu! +1 kurobas only a few things that don't seem plausible (akashi's playing style, the idea of misdirection, hawk/eagle) but even those are doable irl haikyuu /is/ realistic but i guess people don't think it is since they have so many good volleyball players on one team |
Aug 27, 2015 6:22 PM
#141
FGAU1912 said: the un real side of the list in not really not in nay order "bulshit leat real sports anime ever made" Was that not supposed to read "bullshit, least realistic sports anime ever made"? ShiroiMuffler said: I'll spoiler this. If you haven't watched it, don't open, the fun of the show is in the crazy actionThe generation of miracles all had supernatural ability... copy ability is realistic??? Copy was just Kise being naturally athletic and a fast learner. Aomine, really f'n good and got that way by simple practice. Midorima, I've already shown it's possible it just requires the right body type, strength and practice. Like a freethrow, any shot in basketball could have a +90% accuracy provided the motion and strength used remain the same, the ft is the most likely because it's an extremely controlled environment with less moving parts. Murasakibara, see Shaquille O'Neal/Dwight Howard/Yao Ming, any ballislife mixtape that features a HS center...really big and really athletic. Akashi, he's a basketball genius and his eyes are hypersensitive to movement, and his handles are realistic. Other Akashi, a great point guard can improve his teammates during a game, see any heralded NBA point guard not named Russell Westbrook. |
Aug 27, 2015 6:24 PM
#142
ShiroiMuffler said: The generation of miracles all had supernatural ability... copy ability is realistic??? They're not supernatural (maybe Akashi lol). Like ibear said, everyone just has enhanced abilities. Everyone on the GoM were extremely good at their specified positions. There are people like that in real life. |
Aug 27, 2015 7:01 PM
#144
As an endurance sport enthusiast, I honestly enjoyed it somehow. Since I do it in real life so finding it visualized in anime/manga makes me excited. |
AdviotAug 27, 2015 7:05 PM
"I have a vision, where aviation and endurance sport integrate one another." ~ Adventure Aviator |
Aug 27, 2015 7:15 PM
#145
ibear said: FGAU1912 said: the un real side of the list in not really not in nay order "bulshit leat real sports anime ever made" Was that not supposed to read "bullshit, least realistic sports anime ever made"? ShiroiMuffler said: I'll spoiler this. If you haven't watched it, don't open, the fun of the show is in the crazy actionThe generation of miracles all had supernatural ability... copy ability is realistic??? Copy was just Kise being naturally athletic and a fast learner. Aomine, really f'n good and got that way by simple practice. Midorima, I've already shown it's possible it just requires the right body type, strength and practice. Like a freethrow, any shot in basketball could have a +90% accuracy provided the motion and strength used remain the same, the ft is the most likely because it's an extremely controlled environment with less moving parts. Murasakibara, see Shaquille O'Neal/Dwight Howard/Yao Ming, any ballislife mixtape that features a HS center...really big and really athletic. Akashi, he's a basketball genius and his eyes are hypersensitive to movement, and his handles are realistic. Other Akashi, a great point guard can improve his teammates during a game, see any heralded NBA point guard not named Russell Westbrook. That's actually a nice way of seeing it but it really doesn't feel that way. Firstly, Akashi/Kuroko have blatant supernatural abilities, predicting the future was obviously shown as one of his abilities, this is just supernatural (not an enhancement). The other 4 have hyper-enhanced to the point of being unrealistic/ridiculous. Fast learning is one thing, copying abilities to perfection is actually a common skill in sports anime and it's stupidly unrealistic, copying can never be used as a skill in any sport, especially not to the extent shown in many of these sports anime. Shooting from anywhere on the court is ridiculous and can be abused to hell. The other thing that makes some of them slightly supernatural is the activation of these abilities, irl you just have the skill, it's not some ability that you activate like they do in KnB. For example, Aomine/Kagami's zone only last for an exact period of time and then all power is lost, This is obviously absurd irl, stamina doesn't work like that. And the concept of those gates is just a typical anime trope, but that's besides the point. So in the end, the only legit player is Murasakibara :^) That's just how I see it. |
Aug 27, 2015 7:16 PM
#146
I have never explicitly watched sports anime, but when I was younger I remembering watching Prince of Tennis a few times and it was quite enjoyable. |
Aug 27, 2015 7:45 PM
#147
ShiroiMuffler said: Predicting the future and reacting fast are two different things. The anime chose to ignore the explanation given in the manga that in the most layman's terms describes it as the latter.ibear said: FGAU1912 said: the un real side of the list in not really not in nay order "bulshit leat real sports anime ever made" Was that not supposed to read "bullshit, least realistic sports anime ever made"? ShiroiMuffler said: The generation of miracles all had supernatural ability... copy ability is realistic??? Copy was just Kise being naturally athletic and a fast learner. Aomine, really f'n good and got that way by simple practice. Midorima, I've already shown it's possible it just requires the right body type, strength and practice. Like a freethrow, any shot in basketball could have a +90% accuracy provided the motion and strength used remain the same, the ft is the most likely because it's an extremely controlled environment with less moving parts. Murasakibara, see Shaquille O'Neal/Dwight Howard/Yao Ming, any ballislife mixtape that features a HS center...really big and really athletic. Akashi, he's a basketball genius and his eyes are hypersensitive to movement, and his handles are realistic. Other Akashi, a great point guard can improve his teammates during a game, see any heralded NBA point guard not named Russell Westbrook. That's actually a nice way of seeing it but it really doesn't feel that way. Firstly, Akashi/Kuroko have blatant supernatural abilities, predicting the future was obviously shown as one of his abilities, this is just supernatural (not an enhancement). Akashi does not see the future. Like I said his eyes are hypersensitive to movement, meaning he can notice the slightest twitch in an opponents muscles. To give you perspective from when he stole the ball during Midorima's fake pass. When you're firing a pass in basketball (like the one Midorima faked he was doing) your triceps contract, biceps relaxe, pulling your forearm down and then the hands release the ball. In order to make a fake pass work the speed of all of those movements needs to be just as fast as the real thing, the biggest difference is the muscles, ligaments, and tendons between the hands and forearms tighten so as to keep a grip on the ball, then the biceps contract, triceps relax, bringing the forearm back up. Akashi's hypersensitivity towards could see the muscular twitches in the hands and arms that indicated Midorima had no intentions of letting go of the ball, then he reacted to what he saw. Murasakibara explaining Akashi's Emperor Eye to Himuro says, the Emperor Eye alone isn't dangerous, but in combination with Akashi's skill as a basketball player makes it deadly (or something to that effect). These are things you can look up and test out yourself. Grab a basketball and fake a pass as hard as you can while looking at your forearm, you'll see the muscles at the top of your forearm flex as you tighten the grip on the ball and bring it back in. |
Aug 27, 2015 7:50 PM
#148
What about Akashi's attack where he can make people fall to their knees through intimidation? |
Aug 27, 2015 8:31 PM
#149
mayukachan said: Ugh, c'mon do I have to, this stopped being fun halfway through S3. I can't recall if they used in the manga, but it's an easy presumption to the make because the concept is the same. For one thing Akashi is a damn good player and ball handler, his initial size up causes a defensive reaction, reads the muscle movements, and from there he knows what type of crossover will break their center of balance so he can do it without fault.What about Akashi's attack where he can make people fall to their knees through intimidation? If you're talking his bit with Kagami, hell if I know. It could be the same deal. X amount of pressure on the shoulder in direction y makes a person fall over. |
Aug 27, 2015 8:42 PM
#150
ibear said: mayukachan said: Ugh, c'mon do I have to, this stopped being fun halfway through S3. I can't recall if they used in the manga, but it's an easy presumption to the make because the concept is the same. For one thing Akashi is a damn good player and ball handler, his initial size up causes a defensive reaction, reads the muscle movements, and from there he knows what type of crossover will break their center of balance so he can do it without fault.What about Akashi's attack where he can make people fall to their knees through intimidation? If you're talking his bit with Kagami, hell if I know. It could be the same deal. X amount of pressure on the shoulder in direction y makes a person fall over. Okay the thing is their abilities are way too enhanced to appear anywhere close to realistic. It's similar to concept of running at the speed of sound/light (eyeshield 21), yeah it's not supernatural in a sense but it's ridiculous, this applies to all members of generation of miracles to some lesser extent. It parallels with how you're describing Akashi, "he's running so fast that his speed is matching the speed of sound", "his eyes are so sensitive to muscle movement that he can predict the next few seconds of movement in the future" or "this ability was mastered so hard that he is able to use it to make people kneel before him" If you're only trying to argue that they're not supernatural, then sure go ahead, you can stretch your imagination to great lengths to get everything make sense. You are over-analyzing Akashi though, for all we know, the writers of the story intended for him to have those supernatural abilities, and you are just trying to rationalize it, or rather, the writers also aware it is stupidly unrealistic but explain it for the entertainment. |
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