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mira-nyan said: suikaMUSIC said: The villain protagonist has also been done to death by shows like Code Geass and Death Note so I don't see why you think such a concept would be superior. How the fuck is the silver haired girl a moeblob and how the fuck is the MC a goodie two shoes now just because he got a reality check? Do you just blindly throw around those terms to undermine whatever characters don't fit your exact preferences? Moeblobs are: >Yusa >Yu's imouto Yes, he got a reality check, but 1) That's far too early. They prep him up to be an awesome troll and then he's stopped half way through the episode. Even the girlfriend arc ended too suddenly and bluntly 2) The Author decides to go into the 'using powers for good' cliche. At least let us see him do some more mischief, or stop him from using his powers without all the damn restrictions. It could even be that only Nao knows about it, and she blackmails him into doing stuff. But, no, they decided to I) move him into another school, II) take away his freedom III) erase all the fun. The villain protagonist has been played by only a handful of anime. Like Fai said, there are 5271044664183641 anime with the goody-two-shoes main. The originality of this is being taken away by making him 'use his powers for good'. It could've been so gud. How can you say that Yusa is a moeblob when she hasn't even appeared yet aside from TV? The little sister is pretty moe, but that doesn't make her lack a likeable/realistic personality. Moeblob means that someone has a cute design and is cute for the sake of being cute without any real redeeming aspects or a good personality, and with one episode it is FAR too soon to make any of these judgments. Really, it just seems you're calling these characters "moeblobs" because they have beautiful designs and upbeat personalities. Characters can be happy and carefree and still retain multi-dimensional proportions. The villain protagonist trope has already been played in massively popular animes such as Death Note and Code Geass already, and though the good main character is already a wide-spread trope, how can you just assume that he will be less interesting and have his freedom taken away/fun erased just because he is going to become integrated in community that seeks to teach adolescents about their "powers"? The main character is only a first year high schooler after all, and I feel the setup with obtaining the girlfriend and his success in school through abuse of his power was simply an introduction to usher in his experiences at Hoshinoumi Academy (which is a magical name for a school). He got the girlfriend really suddenly and unfairly, so I think her dumping him suddenly and icily was a fitting end to his delusion. Think about it: if you had the main character continue to engage in immature and delusional acts of power simply because he has an abnormal ability, how would that be any more interesting than say, Yu exploring a community of superpowered teenagers like himself and developing and maturing while learning to utilize his power in less immature ways and helping other wayward teenagers who are abusing their powers? It works far better for eventual character development, and even if he has been forcibly taken away from his power abuse, that doesn't mean he's going to become a super goodie two shoes one-dimensional protagonist. The opening with him abusing his powers and even the girlfriend part acts more as an introduction into his experiences at Hoshinoumi Academy, so I think they were justified in making it just half of the introduction. |
suikaMUSIC said: -snip- 1)You don't understand what a moeblob is. 2)The goody-two-shoes trope is that overused. That is how I know it will most likely end up like what Fai said. 3)Practically every fantasy/supernatural anime/manga out there has the MC joining a group with powers, just like him. Is it too much to ask for a rogue MC? 4)Yes, wayward students are far more interesting. Who the hell wants to see the MC save the world for the umpteenth time? Learn about love and friendship for the umpteenth time? Become a hero for the umpteenth time? The villain-MC has been played only a handful of times. The goody-two-shoes one has been played 99477377426636848662838245263 times. 5) You don't set up characters and remove them in the first episode; that ruins the experience. |
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mira-nyan said: suikaMUSIC said: -snip- 1)You don't understand what a moeblob is. 2)The goody-two-shoes trope is that overused. That is how I know it will most likely end up like what Fai said. 3)Practically every fantasy/supernatural anime/manga out there has the MC joining a group with powers, just like him. Is it too much to ask for a rogue MC? 4)Yes, wayward students are far more interesting. Who the hell wants to see the MC save the world for the umpteenth time? Learn about love and friendship for the umpteenth time? Become a hero for the umpteenth time? The villain-MC has been played only a handful of times. The goody-two-shoes one has been played 99477377426636848662838245263 times. 5) You don't set up characters and remove them in the first episode; that ruins the experience. 1)From Urban Dictionary: Moeblob: A character who is moe to the point of lacking almost any other definable traits, physically or character-wise. Cuteness taken to an unappealing level. I don't see the cuteness being overtly unappealing or to the point of lacking all other character traits for Ayu, since she's only a middle schooler(?) and acts pretty much her age. She even has a nice fascination with astronomy/stars and that pretty much sets her apart from the start. Cute characters can still be insanely multidimensional (see Higurashi). 2)Again, how the hell does he become "goody-two-shoes" after just transferring to a school where he's going to be taught the limitations and better uses for his power? I can still see his cynical personality near the end of the episode when he interacts with Tomori. His personality is pretty much still there and you can tell that the sister is a very good foil to him in this way. Please stop trying to assume that everything is going to occur exactly how you imagine it. Just wait for the episodes to come out and then form your opinions after more points get revealed. 3)Yes a bunch of other animes may join groups and clubs, but that's precisely because it's more interesting when you have more people in it (admittedly having too large a cast is detrimental). Characters can develop alongside each other and having a rogue loner MC kinda defeats the purpose of character progression. I'm not saying that it can't be done well (see Welcome to the NHK), but even then they still have to have other people to interact with. 4)Again, how can you assume that he's going to "save the world", "learn about love and friendship", "become a hero" in the most generic fashion as other animes? Characters can become good upstanding people while still retaining multiple dimensions and stay interesting. Also, how can you assume that he's going to stop being "wayward' immediately and thus ruin the enjoyment of the show by becoming generic and good? We will just have to see after watching more episodes, as I think any assumptions at this point are kinda useless. 5)Maybe for some people who get too invested in them, but I see it as more of an introduction and those characters just served to spur on the MC's character development and the plot. It's impossible to give every character a thorough fleshing out, and I think those characters near the beginning even got more than they needed. You are entitled to your own opinion and I can see why you would think that though. I can understand why some people won't be interested in this anime, but I think assuming that it will automatically devolve into generic hero harem anime shit just because he gets a reality check and transfers to a school where he will learn to better use his powers and help other children is rather shortsighted. Let's just see how the anime decides to tackle this before making any assumptions on its direction. I believe that Key can make something different from their usual formula (even if it's quite effective already). After all, they made Rewrite, which is a complete departure from their usual nakiges. I still won't be disappointed if it does emulate a lot of their other works well. |
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mira-nyan said: 5) You don't set up characters and remove them in the first episode; that ruins the experience. That's why every episodic anime sucks. |
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| Just me or does Yuu give this Lelouch vibe I already dislike Nao |
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| Yuu really gives off a Lelouch vibe with his sinister smiles. Shame Jun Fukuyama isn't voicing Yuu, that way, the comparison would be perfect. At least now he's transferring to a different school so he won't be using his powers as he pleases anymore, although the way he used his powers to screw people over with was amusing! The visuals from P.A. Works are as great as I expected them to be, giving the scenes plenty of attention to detail within the backgrounds. A very good episode, hopefully leading to better ones as the series goes on. =D |
mira-nyan said: suikaMUSIC said: -snip- 1)You don't understand what a moeblob is. 2)The goody-two-shoes trope is that overused. That is how I know it will most likely end up like what Fai said. 3)Practically every fantasy/supernatural anime/manga out there has the MC joining a group with powers, just like him. Is it too much to ask for a rogue MC? 4)Yes, wayward students are far more interesting. Who the hell wants to see the MC save the world for the umpteenth time? Learn about love and friendship for the umpteenth time? Become a hero for the umpteenth time? The villain-MC has been played only a handful of times. The goody-two-shoes one has been played 99477377426636848662838245263 times. 5) You don't set up characters and remove them in the first episode; that ruins the experience. Could you fucking not? You're getting frankly annoying and you're misunderstanding entirely a whole show, right now. It seems like you don't know shit about Key and P.A. Works, and especially Charlotte. If you like to watch retarded characters playing around in a whatever world where they can do what they want just for the lolz, go watch an action or a comedy shounen. Because it seems like you're having a hard time assuming that you're misunderstanding Charlotte and you'd better spam another forum discussion. |
Hrybami said: mira-nyan said: 1)You don't understand what a moeblob is. 2)The goody-two-shoes trope is that overused. That is how I know it will most likely end up like what Fai said. 3)Practically every fantasy/supernatural anime/manga out there has the MC joining a group with powers, just like him. Is it too much to ask for a rogue MC? 4)Yes, wayward students are far more interesting. Who the hell wants to see the MC save the world for the umpteenth time? Learn about love and friendship for the umpteenth time? Become a hero for the umpteenth time? The villain-MC has been played only a handful of times. The goody-two-shoes one has been played 99477377426636848662838245263 times. 5) You don't set up characters and remove them in the first episode; that ruins the experience. Could you fucking not? You're getting frankly annoying and you're misunderstanding entirely a whole show, right now. It seems like you don't know shit about Key and P.A. Works, and especially Charlotte. If you like to watch retarded characters playing around in a whatever world where they can do what they want just for the lolz, go watch an action or a comedy shounen. Because it seems like you're having a hard time assuming that you're misunderstanding Charlotte and you'd better spam another forum discussion. Thank you for putting into words what every Key veteran was thinking. |
| I'm pretty sure there is not enough material to discuss the MC at this point. The 2nd episode will reveal whether he becomes Nao's plaything or if he will actually pursue his own agenda. Sadly the 2nd option is very unlikely. What I'm more keen on finding out is how much of a hypocrite Nao is. After all she wasn't too keen on stopping Yuu's antics, which eventually came to endanger human lifes, albeit watching him all the time. |
Lollo36 said: That's why every episodic anime sucks. Oh, wow. Okay. Easy there, my friend. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Lollo36 said: That's why every episodic anime sucks. Oh, wow. Okay. Easy there, my friend. That was irony. What she wrote, unfortunately, wasn't ironic. |
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mira-nyan said: suikaMUSIC said: -snip- 1)You don't understand what a moeblob is. 2)The goody-two-shoes trope is that overused. That is how I know it will most likely end up like what Fai said. 3)Practically every fantasy/supernatural anime/manga out there has the MC joining a group with powers, just like him. Is it too much to ask for a rogue MC? 4)Yes, wayward students are far more interesting. Who the hell wants to see the MC save the world for the umpteenth time? Learn about love and friendship for the umpteenth time? Become a hero for the umpteenth time? The villain-MC has been played only a handful of times. The goody-two-shoes one has been played 99477377426636848662838245263 times. 5) You don't set up characters and remove them in the first episode; that ruins the experience. I never expected to agree with mira but I am agreeing with mira. Wow o.O7 This wasted its potential faster than angel beats and plastic boredom did. And while the second episode will decide it, it will be mst likely yet another case of the "lead female" being a bossy "leader" and the main character begrudgingly going along with everything and anything till he "learns the lesson", as comedy sketch stuff is going on, grils act cute and everyone has some sad weepy backstory, while wind blows through their hair. Then there will be some big revelation which will lead to MC "having learned the lesson" doing some selfless saving the world. Meh meh meh. Hrybami said: Could you fucking not? You're getting frankly annoying and you're misunderstanding entirely a whole show, right now. It seems like you don't know shit about Key and P.A. Works, and especially Charlotte. We know enough to know that KEY love writing the exact same story dozen times in a row and just retitling it differently. |
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CookingPriest said: Hrybami said: Could you fucking not? You're getting frankly annoying and you're misunderstanding entirely a whole show, right now. It seems like you don't know shit about Key and P.A. Works, and especially Charlotte. We know enough to know that KEY love writing the exact same story dozen times in a row and just retitling it differently. Hmm then why does something like Rewrite exist? Even Little Busters! was quite different from their usual formula, but it's hard to explain without getting into major spoiler territory. Key has demonstrated the ability to be flexible and mastery over various genres. Please stick to trashing up FSN discussion threads and keep your ignorance away from Key pls. |
| Another narcissist main tho he got what he deserved. This episode wasn't bad and i am looking forward to next week. |
| That tribute of Fuko from Clannad though. |
| That was def interesting...loving the characters. So there was a third sibling then? |
xkinn123 said: EXACTLY what I thoughtWhy I always remember Kanye instead of Yuu. ..and the first episode is literally what happen if Kanye got a special ability and misuse it. Anyway, that KEY cafe. overall 8 / 10 episode. |
suikaMUSIC said: CookingPriest said: We know enough to know that KEY love writing the exact same story dozen times in a row and just retitling it differently. Hmm then why does something like Rewrite exist? Even Little Busters! was quite different from their usual formula, but it's hard to explain without getting into major spoiler territory. Key has demonstrated the ability to be flexible and mastery over various genres. Please stick to trashing up FSN discussion threads and keep your ignorance away from Key pls. That's why we need Rewrite to become a anime to show that not all key anime will be the same. People got so used to the tearjerker key anime. They think every key anime is like that. But Rewrite is only one that isn't written by Jun Maeda. |
LightBladeNova said: It makes me sad to know that still hardly anyone knows what a visual novel is, even in the anime community. |
suikaMUSIC said: with fsn over they need to invade other forums CookingPriest said: We know enough to know that KEY love writing the exact same story dozen times in a row and just retitling it differently. Hmm then why does something like Rewrite exist? Even Little Busters! was quite different from their usual formula, but it's hard to explain without getting into major spoiler territory. Key has demonstrated the ability to be flexible and mastery over various genres. Please stick to trashing up FSN discussion threads and keep your ignorance away from Key pls. sucks but i agree with everything u said plus kanon, air, and clannad are all different |
| Great first episode altough i felt really sad about the mc being discovered.Talking about the mc he was great IMO and he is now my new idol because all i want in life is to have good grades without studuying and to some some power that can make my life amazing :D. 8/10 episode for me |
| Very interesting start. i hope they can keep this up. |
| I wish they would have kept the mc as a villain (like Lelouch or something), but oh well, it was still an impressive first episode. The thing with the powers disappearing is just plain annoying.. I wonder if I'm the only one who thought the teleportation guy had super speed as his power? |
P3TEJul 5, 2015 10:18 AM
| It begins nice ! Considering the fact that this is a Jun Maeda original ... here I am! |
| I loved AB, so definately gonna love this. Already took a liking to the MC. |
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| I like it so far, looking forward to a school full of super power students. Another one to add for this summer. So many to watch :3 His sister is so cute, and he is a butt head xD reminds me if light form death note |
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| Not sure if it was just the translation I was watching but the script seemed a bit weak in places. I did enjoy it though, despite the rapid change in tone of the episode from the first to second half I did enjoy the MC being brought back down to earth after pretty much being a bellend in the first half. If this show is meant to change rapidly after half way, I really hope it doesn't end as clusterfucked and forced as Angel Beats seemed do. |
Ishkoten said: suikaMUSIC said: Hmm then why does something like Rewrite exist? Even Little Busters! was quite different from their usual formula, but it's hard to explain without getting into major spoiler territory. Key has demonstrated the ability to be flexible and mastery over various genres. Please stick to trashing up FSN discussion threads and keep your ignorance away from Key pls. That's why we need Rewrite to become a anime to show that not all key anime will be the same. People got so used to the tearjerker key anime. They think every key anime is like that. But Rewrite is only one that isn't written by Jun Maeda. The reason rewrite is different is because only 1 writer was from key all the rest was from other company that does not write like most key work until now. The only VN I remember that was written entirely by Key and was entirely different than the usual was planetarian but I don't know if it was really written by Key or a writer from another company.. |
| Pretty cool first episode. Gave us some characterization and good animation. I will be sticking with this one |
otakubloodshed-3 said: That tribute of Fuko from Clannad though. Yeah I saw this as well :D fuko was the best. first ep 10/10 Enjoyed the first ep very much :D |
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| The MC is a badass. His evil smile was perfect. I would totally do all the things he did if I had powers like that. MC's imouto is pretty perfect. I liked what I saw, the comedy was fun and I think the story has potential. |
| Well, now. This one shows potential! In the first 10 minutes at least. Liking the male MC so much! Such SWAG and SMUG! It's been a while seeing this kind of MC! ....Then white-haired girl shows up, and scouting the MC to go the school full of people with special powers! Please don't tell me this will turned out like generic superpower/magic-school-harem-comedy anime or something... Also, they're trying too hard showing the moeness of the MC's imouto. Somehow annoyed by her, tbh. :/ |
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tiofrodo said: Man it hurts people comparing this shitty guy with Lelouch or Kira, might as well compare them to Kefka from FFVI because he has a maniac laugh too. He is a lot like lelouch though down to dodging responsibility and all that. |
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CrushLeone said: Its like the second coming of Lelouch from Code Geass XD this guy(the charlotte mc) is actually good tho ;) |
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tiofrodo said: black1blade said: He is a lot like lelouch though down to dodging responsibility and all that. Really, the only similarity i can think of is using an power that has to do with his eyes and he is using it for selfish reasons, everything else is completely different and this guy just straight up sucks compared to Lelouch. It's not like his sister is the only person he cares about and he has no problem sacrificing others for his plans. Completely different. |
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| This was better than what I expected. It reminds me of Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches CrushLeone said: Its like the second coming of Lelouch from Code Geass XD LOL ! Don't compare this guy to Lelouch. He is not smart, lack the charisma and speech skill of lelouch |
Sorris said: I'll probably stop watching if the MC is one of those people that's just gonna sit there and absorb abuse without ever doing anything to the people inflicting it. If he says "Screw off" to them in the second episode and can actually accomplish something other than being a punching bag for the girl, maybe it'll be worth watching. Although, you can pretty much tell at this point who the 2 love interests are going to be, anyhow. Nao Tomori hit him because she saw what he had done in order to date the popular girl (she talks about the accident right before she punches him). It's not like she'll torture him in every episode. |
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tiofrodo said: Lollo36 said: It's not like his sister is the only person he cares about and he has no problem sacrificing others for his plans. Completely different. I doubt his sister is the only thing he cares about when he is using his powers to get the popular girl in his school as a girlfriend. And Lelouch does care about sacrificing others, or are we forgetting that he even tried to do drugs just because he killed one person that was important to him? EDIT: oh and Lelouch does not only care about his sister, but she is the most important for him. Let me adjust my sentence: their sister is the most important thing for them, and they have no problem with sacrificing strangers for their plans. |
Lollo36Jul 5, 2015 1:01 PM
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| Only 13 episodes? Feels too short... like others have mentioned, I hope this won't end up rushed and underdeveloped like Angel Beats. Or maybe there'll be a second season (which I'm hoping for; 13-episode animes are always too short for me personally). |
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Sorris said: Lollo36 said: Nao Tomori hit him because she saw what he had done in order to date the popular girl (she talks about the accident right before she punches him). It's not like she'll torture him in every episode. I hope not, although, we have already seen that he's not above using his powers against people that he feels have abused (bullied) him. (i.e. the gangsters he starts the fight with). I'm just hoping that the author/writer doesn't conveniently forget that part over the next couple episodes. Yeah, it felt kinda weird that he didn't even think about using his power, but if he did, he would have been beaten up again, since as soon as he activated it, the person that he didn't target would have activated his/her own ability. |
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