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JD2411 said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: No it isn't. There is nothing strenuous about sitting down playing games all day. Why do some people have problems accepting that?If you want to be a professional at the video game you're playing and become the best at it, of course its difficult. The training and dedication acquired to become the best is pretty intense. I love reading comments like this though, especially from folks who sit at home all day like this guy. Sure, he's no NFL athlete or a tennis champion. Though, he worked for title and he himself deserves no hate for it. Hate the decision, not the guy who likely worked his ass off for it. Why does it matter that some people sit at home all day? We have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, so why bother mentioning it? It's just a cheap attack on people who disagree with you. And nobody in this thread said that they hate him personally. They dislike the fact that some people think e-sports is on the same level of real sports and that these "athletes" are an insult to people who pushed their bodies to the limit to get where they are. This whole e-sports shit is just people trying to justify sitting down and playing games all day by labelling it as something that is socially acceptable. You never became a professional at a game then if you think its simple to just become the best at your craft. I've had to put in 600+ hours on Death Smiles to reach the ability I'm at and nobody without dedication and ability could match me. If you don't think it takes training and dedication to become great at a certain VG, then you're kidding yourself. It might not be the same training as a NFL superstar, but its still hardcore training that seperates the professionals and the people we squash under our feat. Though, I'm not a gamer anymore, but can accept gaming has evolved. Already explained that though. Actually, that "cheap tactic" seems to gotten a reply out of you. You can call it cheap, but I'm going to use it whether it makes your blood boil or not. I can't take you seriously. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: JD2411 said: No it isn't. There is nothing strenuous about sitting down playing games all day. Why do some people have problems accepting that? Why does it matter that some people sit at home all day? We have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, so why bother mentioning it? It's just a cheap attack on people who disagree with you. And nobody in this thread said that they hate him personally. They dislike the fact that some people think e-sports is on the same level of real sports and that these "athletes" are an insult to people who pushed their bodies to the limit to get where they are. This whole e-sports shit is just people trying to justify sitting down and playing games all day by labelling it as something that is socially acceptable. You never became a professional at a game then if you think its simple to just become the best at your craft. I've had to put in 600+ hours on Death Smiles to reach the ability I'm at and nobody without dedication and ability could match me. If you don't think it takes training and dedication to become great at a certain VG, then you're kidding yourself. It might not be the same training as a NFL superstar, but its still hardcore training that seperates the professionals and the people we squash under our feat. Though, I'm not a gamer anymore, but can accept gaming has evolved. Already explained that though. Dem old Counter strike pros though, must admit. Having played 100s of hours of CS:go I can definitely admire their skill. If this were an article on an fps player on Quake or similar I'd be a little more understanding because co-ordination and reaction times mean everything. Or and RTS like Starcraft, or Supreme commander which is sort of like glorified chess. But MOBAs like LoL is just so.. I don't know how to put it |
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Objurgo said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: You never became a professional at a game then if you think its simple to just become the best at your craft. I've had to put in 600+ hours on Death Smiles to reach the ability I'm at and nobody without dedication and ability could match me. If you don't think it takes training and dedication to become great at a certain VG, then you're kidding yourself. It might not be the same training as a NFL superstar, but its still hardcore training that seperates the professionals and the people we squash under our feat. Though, I'm not a gamer anymore, but can accept gaming has evolved. Already explained that though. Dem old Counter strike pros though, must admit. Having played 100s of hours of CS:go I can definitely admire their skill. If this were an article on an fps player on Quake or similar I'd be a little more understanding because co-ordination and reaction times mean everything. Or and RTS like Starcraft, or Supreme commander which is sort of like glorified chess. But MOBAs like LoL is just so.. I don't know how to put it Go ahead and start playing lol to check how long it'll take you to reach Challenger I. ^^ |
NudeBear said: Objurgo said: Dem old Counter strike pros though, must admit. Having played 100s of hours of CS:go I can definitely admire their skill. If this were an article on an fps player on Quake or similar I'd be a little more understanding because co-ordination and reaction times mean everything. Or and RTS like Starcraft, or Supreme commander which is sort of like glorified chess. But MOBAs like LoL is just so.. I don't know how to put it Go ahead and start playing lol to check how long it'll take you to reach Challenger I. ^^ No thanks ^_^ I'm not about to spend countless hours that I don't have, playing a genre I don't like, just to prove someone right or wrong |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours on a game. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how playing video games is hardcore training. You never became a professional at a game then if you think its simple to just become the best at your craft. I've had to put in 600+ hours on Death Smiles to reach the ability I'm at and nobody without dedication and ability could match me. If you don't think it takes training and dedication to become great at a certain VG, then you're kidding yourself. It might not be the same training as a NFL superstar, but its still hardcore training that seperates the professionals and the people we squash under our feat. Though, I'm not a gamer anymore, but can accept gaming has evolved. Already explained that though. Actually, that "cheap tactic" seems to gotten a reply out of you. You can call it cheap, but I'm going to use it whether it makes your blood boil or not. I can't take you seriously. training Nobody's teaching you how to play and you aren't bodybuilding, so no it isn't training.ˈtreɪnɪŋ/Submit noun noun: training the action of teaching a person or animal a particular skill or type of behaviour. "in-service training for staff" synonyms: instruction, teaching, coaching, tuition, tutoring, tutelage, schooling, education, pedagogy, andragogy, drilling, priming, preparation, grounding, guidance, indoctrination, inculcation; lessons "he got training in word-processing techniques" the action of undertaking a course of exercise and diet in preparation for a sporting event. "you'll have to go into strict training" synonyms: exercise, exercises, physical exercises, working out, bodybuilding; More Your post reminds me of the navy seals copypasta tbh and I was going to respond to you anyway, I was just pointing out your fallacious arguments. |
josh_ said: "EA E-Sports, it's in the game."Can we stop calling competitive gaming "e-sports"? |
JD2411 said: Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours on a game. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. Well you have a point. |
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Scooch said: josh_ said: "EA E-Sports, it's in the game."Can we stop calling competitive gaming "e-sports"? |
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josh_ said: Can we stop calling competitive gaming "e-sports"? what does it matter what we call it? should we call also professional athletics "competitive athletics?" rather than sports? makes no sense also, I don't understand why people consider lifting weights honing your skills. its not. honing abilities maybe. saying videogames require no skill is basically a giant sign saying there is no point in arguing with you since you don't even understand what you are talking about. |
JD2411 said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours on a game. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how playing video games is hardcore training. You never became a professional at a game then if you think its simple to just become the best at your craft. I've had to put in 600+ hours on Death Smiles to reach the ability I'm at and nobody without dedication and ability could match me. If you don't think it takes training and dedication to become great at a certain VG, then you're kidding yourself. It might not be the same training as a NFL superstar, but its still hardcore training that seperates the professionals and the people we squash under our feat. Though, I'm not a gamer anymore, but can accept gaming has evolved. Already explained that though. Actually, that "cheap tactic" seems to gotten a reply out of you. You can call it cheap, but I'm going to use it whether it makes your blood boil or not. I can't take you seriously. . Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours running. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how running is hardcore training. |
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Objurgo said: No thanks ^_^ I'm not about to spend countless hours that I don't have, playing a genre I don't like, just to prove someone right or wrong The point is, even if you did, you wouldn't be able to. Imaishi said: JD2411 said: Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours on a game. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how playing video games is hardcore training. . Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours running. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how running is hardcore training. Guitar playing is simple and easy. Didn't know that sitting down for hours could be considered strenuous. Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours practicing guitar. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how practicing guitar (on an advanced level) is hardcore training. |
NudeBearJun 14, 2015 9:51 AM
| "He was the first true global superstar." Well considering I've never heard of him till now and unlike a handful of quake/cs players(ie: HeatoN founder/owner of NiP-Gaming. Fatal1ty has an entire parts line, from mainboards to headsets, with his name on it) does not have their own line of gear. I would have to disagree with said statement. Good for him though, it's definitely easier said than done being named "the Jordan or Tiger of ____". |
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Imaishi said: Except most people do have the free time to go running, since a 10 minute run is significantly shorter than an on-line game that could last up to an hour or more. Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours running. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how running is hardcore training. Nice try though. |
JD2411 said: Imaishi said: Except most people do have the free time to go running, since a 10 minute run is significantly shorter than an on-line game that could last up to an hour or more. Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours running. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how running is hardcore training. Nice try though. I wouldn't call 10 minutes of doing something training... |
| He is like them when it comes to League. He's a fucking beast. I don't get why the users above are calling this a "joke". Oh, and League isn't a sport. It's an eSport. |
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Milennin said: That's just a minimum. The length of training doesn't matter according to the dictionary definition.JD2411 said: Except most people do have the free time to go running, since a 10 minute run is significantly shorter than an on-line game that could last up to an hour or more. Nice try though. I wouldn't call 10 minutes of doing something training... |
| All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. You guys can continue to ridicule 'esports' as much as you like, but I bet that most of you can't even begin to imagine what being "one of the best" feels like let alone be one. |
NudeBear said: Nice ad hominem.All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. You guys can continue to ridicule 'esports' as much as you like, but I bet that most of you can't even begin to imagine what being "one of the best" feels like let alone be one. anyway, prove that it's not easy to become a professional league player and prove that it's not easy to become one of the best. The burden of proof lies with the claimant The rest of your post is baseless assumptions and ad hominems that I'm not even going to bother with. |
JD2411 said: anyway, prove that it's not easy to become a professional league player and prove that it's not easy to become one of the best. *roll eyes* You think you're being smart by trying to emulate 'iconic' MAL users? At least try to be creative with your writing, unless of course, English isn't your native language. Anyways 'being one of the best' wouldn't mean much if it was that easy. :] Since you asked though, here you go: '0.02% of players are challengers http://www.lolsummoners.com/ladders |
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JD2411 said: that doesn't prove the difficulty of it. No, but it should give you an idea of its difficulty. I'm not going to waste my time searching for some ridiculous study about the "mechanical and quick thinking skills required for professional level gaming" just because you decided to pretend to be a pedantic fuck. |
JD2411 said: NudeBear said: Nice ad hominem.All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. You guys can continue to ridicule 'esports' as much as you like, but I bet that most of you can't even begin to imagine what being "one of the best" feels like let alone be one. anyway, prove that it's not easy to become a professional league player and prove that it's not easy to become one of the best. The burden of proof lies with the claimant The rest of your post is baseless assumptions and ad hominems that I'm not even going to bother with. Prove that it's not easy to become a professional athlete. |
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NudeBear said: So you don't want to provide evidence of your claim, and decided to insult me instead of admitting you don't want to continue arguing?JD2411 said: that doesn't prove the difficulty of it. No, but it should give you an idea of its difficulty. I'm not going to waste my time searching for some ridiculous study about the "mechanical and quick thinking skills required for professional level gaming" just because you decided to pretend to be a pedantic fuck. Imaishi said: I don't have to since the burden of proof is on the claimant, and I didn't make the initial claims.Prove that it's not easy to become a professional athlete. |
| Seriously wasting your time arguing with JD, guys. Though you probably figured that out by now. |
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Imaishi said: Being a professional athlete requires incredible talent and physical ability which requires years of hard work and dedication. Keep in mind that you'll be competing with millions of people to get into the pros.Prove that it's not easy to become a professional athlete. Also, take a look at this: |
Drunk_Samurai said: iasuru said: wow so many people jelly because a player is popular and earning so much money by "sitting in front of a computer screen doing nothing" Read the posts. Not many were like that at all. Most were saying how stupid it is to call video games a "sport". It's an e-sport, not a sport. maybe people should get it right than whining about right terminology. lmao. Deathstroke_ said: iasuru said: wow so many people jelly because a player is popular and earning so much money by "sitting in front of a computer screen doing nothing" Not every dislikes someone out of jealousy, kid. This article is kind of an insult. insult to what. insult to ur weak mind? lmao. how can someone get insulted by an article. AHAHA. JD2411 said: NudeBear said: Nice ad hominem.All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. You guys can continue to ridicule 'esports' as much as you like, but I bet that most of you can't even begin to imagine what being "one of the best" feels like let alone be one. anyway, prove that it's not easy to become a professional league player and prove that it's not easy to become one of the best. The burden of proof lies with the claimant The rest of your post is baseless assumptions and ad hominems that I'm not even going to bother with. Why does it matter if it's easy to become a professional league player or not. If it's so easy, wouldn't more people try AND succeed to become a professional league player? |
iasuruJun 14, 2015 1:45 PM
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Milennin said: Drunk_Samurai said: Scottie Pippen wasn't shit. Jordan may have been the best but Pippen was still 2nd best on that team. Golf and video games might be able to be compared due to both being more mental than physical but it's still fucking stupid to call video games a sport. No more "fucking" stupid than calling a physical game a sport. Wow, all you're doing is kicking a stupid ball, big deal. 6/10. At least you tried. |
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JD2411 said: Imaishi said: Except most people do have the free time to go running, since a 10 minute run is significantly shorter than an on-line game that could last up to an hour or more. Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours running. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. I fail to see how running is hardcore training. Nice try though. That doesn't even apply. We are talking about hundreds of hours, not a casual 10 minutes. People play a quick 10 minute game all the time. Length depends totally on the game. Most athletic sporting event can last hours Also the burden of proof is among the stupidest arguments I've ever heard, even if I ignore that fact that you claimed it was easy before we contradicted you. insan3Inquisitor said: Seriously wasting your time arguing with JD, guys. Though you probably figured that out by now. Very true. |
NudeBear said: All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. You guys can continue to ridicule 'esports' as much as you like, but I bet that most of you can't even begin to imagine what being "one of the best" feels like let alone be one. He's not even worth the energy to be honest. I gave up because I realized its argument based on ignorance. |
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JD2411 said: Most people don't have enough free time to spend 600+ hours on a game. It doesn't show dedication, it shows a lack of real world responsibilities and an abundance of free time. This has to be your best comment on MAL. |
NudeBear said: All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. Yea, maybe to kids or teen, not sure about the adult world. I could just imagine Faker on a date She: So what do you do for a living? Him: errrr I play di league of legeng, I numba wan, yes. |
ElectricgroovesJun 15, 2015 2:31 AM
Deathstroke_ said: NudeBear said: All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. Yea, maybe to kids or teen, not sure about the adult world. I could just imagine Faker on a date She: So what do you do for a living? Him: errrr I play di league of legeng, I numba wan, yes. Him: That and the fact that I've earned more than a million dollars from gaming. Still want to make fun of him? lol |
| people who defend this loser nerd are loser nerds hes good on what he do but compare to his airness? da fuq he deserve his name faker i bet even my sister can kick dat guy ass lol. |
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NudeBear said: Deathstroke_ said: Yea, maybe to kids or teen, not sure about the adult world. I could just imagine Faker on a date She: So what do you do for a living? Him: errrr I play di league of legeng, I numba wan, yes. Him: That and the fact that I've earned more than a million dollars from gaming. Still want to make fun of him? lol Yea, something tells me getting all that money wouldn't make the cut for some women. I have nothing against him but look at him, he looks like he's never done an exercise in his life. His social skills are probably lacking too since he's had to sacrifice so much time for League. |
ElectricgroovesJun 15, 2015 5:19 AM
Deathstroke_ said: NudeBear said: Him: That and the fact that I've earned more than a million dollars from gaming. Still want to make fun of him? lol Yea, something tells me getting all that money wouldn't make the cut for some women. I have nothing against him but look at him, he looks like he's never done an exercise in his life. His social skills are probably lacking too since he's had to sacrifice so much time for League. Yeah it's true that he was really shy and awkward in the beginning, but he has really improved after all the interviews and popularity he had these 2 years, even trolling a female interviewer Also don't forget that Korea and the West are different. Professional Gaming has been popular in Korea for a while now thanks to Starcraft and is way more social accepted than here in the West, there are also a lot more girls into gaming there |
ChampJun 15, 2015 5:31 AM
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: what the fuck are you talking about? You're the one who can't even argue and just makes snide insults instead of actually writing anything of value.NudeBear said: All irrelevant bullshit. Points are: 1. It's not easy to become a professional League player 2. It's not easy to become one of the best pro League players. So no, it's not easy. It's quite an amazing feat. You guys can continue to ridicule 'esports' as much as you like, but I bet that most of you can't even begin to imagine what being "one of the best" feels like let alone be one. He's not even worth the energy to be honest. I gave up because I realized its argument based on ignorance. |
Aeldrian said: Also Lol is too easy and a kid game for pussies. basketball requires more physical and mental strength. and u need to be a man and not pussy gamer. just because u see urself in the mirror doesnt mean u have to defend this loser kid Make the troll a bit less obvious next time. No one will believe you are THAT stupid. Deathstroke_ said: NudeBear said: Him: That and the fact that I've earned more than a million dollars from gaming. Still want to make fun of him? lol Yea, something tells me getting all that money wouldn't make the cut for some women. I have nothing against him but look at him, he looks like he's never done an exercise in his life. His social skills are probably lacking too since he's had to sacrifice so much time for League. Pretty shallow women if she let his occupation determine if she loved him. Also you are in no position to judge his social skills unless you know him JD2411 said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: what the fuck are you talking about? You're the one who can't even argue and just makes snide insults instead of actually writing anything of value.He's not even worth the energy to be honest. I gave up because I realized its argument based on ignorance. Aw man, your like the other guy. Don't let the troll be this obvious |
NudeBear said: It has nothing to with comparing League with actual athletic sports. If you guys actually read it, you'd realize the article's talking about how big Faker is in the world of League of Legends; similarly to how Jordan and Woods were in their respectable fields. Nothing more, nothing less. why is this so hard to understand? is it even possible to have a discussion about esports without ignorant children jerking off and throwing around what little masculinity they have over something they pretend not to care about? |
JD2411 said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: what the fuck are you talking about? You're the one who can't even argue and just makes snide insults instead of actually writing anything of value.He's not even worth the energy to be honest. I gave up because I realized its argument based on ignorance. I might make snide comments, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my message in which you just replied to. If anything, you seem to be replying to me more often ever since I called out your BS on that Boston Bomber thread a little while back. That suggests you still have a bone to pick with me over my "snide comments" that obviously irritate you. You say they have no value? By replying to them time after time, you're aware that means they automatically get value right? Anyway, this isn't a battle of egos and zomg who makes better posts!!!!? < That mindset alone is pratically laughable. This is me throwing my opinion on the table of you and how gaming has evolved from a "sit alone and rot" hobby, to a more mainstream and growing appeal. So, anything else? |
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BansheeNorn said: Not based on the crowds or the hype it draws today.Starcraft is more E-Sport than LoL~ @.@ It kind of died once mobas took the spotlight, but I'm grateful to broodwars and how it was pretty much what kick started e-sports. |
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