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Apr 4, 2015 6:59 PM

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CloudStrifeFFVII said:
Can a VN player tell me how well this episode was OUT OF 5!~
Try to refrain from as much biasness as possible!~


4/5 for me and I've been critical of the adaptation. My main gripe is with skipping some of Shirou's perspective and a slight gripe with something else that depends on things down the road.
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I actually sided with Fai in the past because of the awful direction.
This ep however has much better direction albeit more fast-paced and he's still complaining...
Please tell me how do I ignore someone in MAL.

I really like how Archer blocking Rin's magic and that evil face. Yumm.
Apr 4, 2015 7:05 PM

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fateoffate said:
I actually sided with Fai in the past because of the awful direction.
This ep however has much better direction albeit more fast-paced and he's still complaining...
Please tell me how do I ignore someone in MAL.

I really like how Archer blocking Rin's magic and that evil face. Yumm.


He might take his points to the extreme but there were reviewers that noticed Shirou's fumble.(I'm not saying this matters a whole lot but I wish he had a more natural roll pls dont crucify me)

I hate getting into this stuff now because if you side with someone even a little bit you're likely to get harassed.
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nocorras said:
CloudStrifeFFVII said:
Can a VN player tell me how well this episode was OUT OF 5!~
Try to refrain from as much biasness as possible!~


4/5 for me and I've been critical of the adaptation. My main gripe is with skipping some of Shirou's perspective and a slight gripe with something else that depends on things down the road.


Honest rating. Some people have difficult (I'm not speaking about no one in special) in see a 3/5 or 4/5 like a good note. What have value in fact is 1/5 or 5/5.
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43211 said:
fateoffate said:

Please tell me how do I ignore someone in MAL.


By not replying to that person's comments.....

MAL don't have ignore function like Gamefaqs?
Apr 4, 2015 7:09 PM

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YggdrasilTM said:
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1) Explicitely stated. Even described in detail down to the power level. Caster's attack is like a bullet hell; I can quote you the VN right now.
On this you are right, but is not really a big deal. It's a very evanescent and qualitative judgment on how much effort Archer was putting in dodging them in episode 7.
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2) Shirou's house is much smaller space. Also certain Fate route dead end.

I REALLY have to bring
into discussion?
Aurioch said:

3) Magi can sense magical energy, for example boundary fields like purple Servant's Blood Fort (both Shirou and Rin detected it). Gandr shot is pure magic, which a magus of Caster's rank should be pinpointed easily even without visual confirmation. Example is Archer shooting down Illya's familiars back in ep3.

Ok, and...? She was still surprised of them. Or maybe she thought that just dodging them was enough. After all, why waste magical energy for such a thing? She is an old fashioned magus: "Never use ME unless is strictly needed".


1) Actually how it was portrayed is relevant. Archer didn't have hard time dodging Caster in anime, while in VN he had to abandon dodging and focus only on deflection while he saves Shirou due to sheer amount of powerful projectiles. Prisma Illya portrayed Caster's power way better.

2) I just rechecked that fight. Caster's mental state wasn't top-notch. Anything I add will be spoiler.

3) My point is that Gandr shots shouldn't even have to be surprise her or force her to dodge. I can't really add more without spoilers. Keep in mind, we're talking about a magus who has whole city to drain and would not hesitate to use that to carpet bomb huge area with powerful spells.

And I really need to go to sleep as it's almost 4 AM at my place, I can continue the argument tomorrow XD I didn't have a good fight in a while.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Apr 4, 2015 7:12 PM

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nocorras said:
fateoffate said:
I actually sided with Fai in the past because of the awful direction.
This ep however has much better direction albeit more fast-paced and he's still complaining...
Please tell me how do I ignore someone in MAL.

I really like how Archer blocking Rin's magic and that evil face. Yumm.


He might take his points to the extreme but there were reviewers that noticed Shirou's fumble.(I'm not saying this matters a whole lot but I wish he had a more natural roll pls dont crucify me)

I hate getting into this stuff now because if you side with someone even a little bit you're likely to get harassed.


I think more that in forums in general is hard to have a consensus about anything. Independent of side that you choice.

I think that some thoughts of Fai are interesting. The problem is that he is very tendencious. One example: We already have here numerous pages, and problably in just two posts he praised Ufo or the episode. But while critical comments, probably already is more of 20 (with reason or not, or just shitpost about Miura). And this in a good episode.
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Apr 4, 2015 7:21 PM

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Rin is too hnngh here.

So Rin and Shirou going to ask other master help?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Apr 4, 2015 7:23 PM

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Zapredon said:
Rin is too hnngh here.

So Rin and Shirou going to ask other master help?


Looks like it, yeah. This will be interesting~
Apr 4, 2015 7:23 PM

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Zapredon said:
Rin is too hnngh here.

So Rin and Shirou going to ask other master help?


Wait the next episodes, my friend.
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Apr 4, 2015 7:24 PM

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So the only good parts of UBW first episode was the opening, ending, and the awkward romance. Archer was looking gar as fuck and the opening looked crisp. Disappointed, I thought Shiro was smooth with getting rin to go to his house to get some.
Why does this show keep teasing with the fights? Just kill Rin and Shiro already.
Apr 4, 2015 7:25 PM

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This was where I thought the first half would end.
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sullynathan said:
So the only good parts of UBW first episode was the opening, ending, and the awkward romance. Archer was looking gar as fuck and the opening looked crisp.
Why does this show keep teasing with the fights? Just kill Rin and Shiro already.



Because that's not the focus of the show :/
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nocorras said:
sullynathan said:
So the only good parts of UBW first episode was the opening, ending, and the awkward romance. Archer was looking gar as fuck and the opening looked crisp.
Why does this show keep teasing with the fights? Just kill Rin and Shiro already.



Because that's not the focus of the show :/


Kill Rin and Shirou? Well, this happen many times...who knows not is this the real focus?
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Apr 4, 2015 7:28 PM

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survivor_hero said:
nocorras said:



Because that's not the focus of the show :/


Kill Rin and Shirou? Well, this happen many times...who knows not is this the real focus?


The fights :)
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nocorras said:
survivor_hero said:


Kill Rin and Shirou? Well, this happen many times...who knows not is this the real focus?


The fights :)


Fanservice in Rin and Saber, maybe :)
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Apr 4, 2015 7:29 PM

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survivor_hero said:
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The fights :)


Fanservice in Rin and Saber, maybe :)


It's obviously all about best girl Illya :D
Apr 4, 2015 7:32 PM

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OneTrueEmiya said:
survivor_hero said:


Fanservice in Rin and Saber, maybe :)


It's obviously all about best girl Illya :D


Oh, in fact. We lets to have an episode specially for her. Rejoice!
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Apr 4, 2015 7:33 PM
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Fate/Stay Night just pulled a Tokyo Ghoul and started its new cour with an episode that really should have just been the grand finale of the last one.

Why, Ufotable, why?
Apr 4, 2015 7:37 PM

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It's finally here!
10/5 just for the Saber bondage. Seriously though I'd give it a 4/5.
Apr 4, 2015 7:38 PM

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MasterGhost said:
Fate/Stay Night just pulled a Tokyo Ghoul and started its new cour with an episode that really should have just been the grand finale of the last one.

Why, Ufotable, why?


So that we could end last cour with This Illusion~

I was OK with it though, since ending last cour with this would be a very nasty cliffhanger that left me waiting for around half a year. Yeah, I'd rather This Illusion wrap up first cour.
Apr 4, 2015 7:42 PM

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nocorras said:
sullynathan said:
So the only good parts of UBW first episode was the opening, ending, and the awkward romance. Archer was looking gar as fuck and the opening looked crisp.
Why does this show keep teasing with the fights? Just kill Rin and Shiro already.



Because that's not the focus of the show :/

I thought this was a war. Archer has betrayed Rin, why not just kill her now? It would stop her from ever foiling his future plans too.
Apr 4, 2015 7:43 PM

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sullynathan said:
nocorras said:



Because that's not the focus of the show :/

I thought this was a war. Archer has betrayed Rin, why not just kill her now? It would stop her from ever foiling his future plans too.


None of this can even be talked about though unless you've seen the movie or read the VN. The main focus has never been the war though.

MasterGhost said:
Fate/Stay Night just pulled a Tokyo Ghoul and started its new cour with an episode that really should have just been the grand finale of the last one.

Why, Ufotable, why?


Na, they ended it at the place where I thought it would. It would have been too rushed if they tried to make it to this point and they had three ~43 min episodes.
Apr 4, 2015 7:44 PM

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sullynathan said:
nocorras said:



Because that's not the focus of the show :/

I thought this was a war. Archer has betrayed Rin, why not just kill her now? It would stop her from ever foiling his future plans too.


Archer has...other goals.
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sullynathan said:
nocorras said:



Because that's not the focus of the show :/

I thought this was a war. Archer has betrayed Rin, why not just kill her now? It would stop her from ever foiling his future plans too.


You'll have to wait to see why. I can't answer you without spoiling what will happen.
astroprogs said:
If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Apr 4, 2015 7:50 PM

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The last part was my favorite part this episode, that conversation between shirou and rin was just so good.
Apr 4, 2015 7:51 PM

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Aurioch said:
sullynathan said:

I thought this was a war. Archer has betrayed Rin, why not just kill her now? It would stop her from ever foiling his future plans too.


You'll have to wait to see why. I can't answer you without spoiling what will happen.

I think it's safe to say that just because he's not allied with Rin any more, this does not mean she might not be useful at some point.
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Cheeeeeeese said:
The last part was my favorite part this episode, that conversation between shirou and rin was just so good.


The forehead on the back, my heart
Apr 4, 2015 7:53 PM

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nocorras said:
Cheeeeeeese said:
The last part was my favorite part this episode, that conversation between shirou and rin was just so good.


The forehead on the back, my heart


Rin ;__;

And the tear scene right before that really hit me hard...
Apr 4, 2015 8:31 PM

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damn, dat confession doe, looking forward to the rest of the series, i for one am hyped
Apr 4, 2015 8:44 PM
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That confession at the end caught me totally by surprise. And apparently Rin's too lol. Awesome. That projection skill is pretty awesome.

Anyone else feel that Saber's position was very sexual?
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Awesome first episode! I think it really did justice to the visual novel, for the most part. Damn Archer! (OK, I know his real intentions, but still)

Nonetheless, I didn't notice something until now. Why didn't Rin just use her reijuu to protect herself when she realized Archer was about to betray her?

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
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guyklc said:
Awesome first episode! I think it really did justice to the visual novel, for the most part. Damn Archer! (OK, I know his real intentions, but still)

Nonetheless, I didn't notice something until now. Why didn't Rin just use her reijuu to protect herself when she realized Archer was about to betray her?


She was too shocked to do anything else...
Apr 4, 2015 9:14 PM

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chat77 said:
guyklc said:
Awesome first episode! I think it really did justice to the visual novel, for the most part. Damn Archer! (OK, I know his real intentions, but still)

Nonetheless, I didn't notice something until now. Why didn't Rin just use her reijuu to protect herself when she realized Archer was about to betray her?


She was too shocked to do anything else...


Although I still hate like in various series that I watch, when someone go out your hiding place, yell for warn all the people in the room (Shirou, here).
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chat77 said:
guyklc said:
Awesome first episode! I think it really did justice to the visual novel, for the most part. Damn Archer! (OK, I know his real intentions, but still)

Nonetheless, I didn't notice something until now. Why didn't Rin just use her reijuu to protect herself when she realized Archer was about to betray her?


She was too shocked to do anything else...


Besides, Archer's Independent Action and Magic Resistance would nullify the command long enough for Caster to stab him.
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Was Saber raped?

Apr 4, 2015 9:32 PM

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lucjan said:
Was Saber raped?

Yes.
Apr 4, 2015 9:33 PM

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antonn said:
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Was Saber raped?

Yes.


No. This is a normal situation in the life of a king.
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Apr 4, 2015 9:36 PM

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lucjan said:
Was Saber raped?

Yes
Apr 4, 2015 9:41 PM

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oh god just gimme more wedding dress Saber molesting



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People are forgetting that Caster could use her seal to take complete control of saber any time she wished.

In fact, in one of the bad endings in VN, Shirou comes in too early and Caster does not hesitate to use a command seal to take complete control of saber. This results in a bad end where Saber and Caster together are too powerful and kill them all.

Uhhh...spoiler?


This is hardly a spoiler, since it already happened. I am just using one of the facts from the VN to show how Archer's actions probably did in fact save Tohsaka's life. It may not have been intentional, but if Archer did not do what he did, Caster had a trump card ready just in case.

Tohsaka was under the presumption that Saber could in fact resist the command seal for a short while which was a false sense of security as in fact she could not.

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Thats was so rushed,damn, what the hell happened.
OP and ED are so awesome, can't say the same for the rest of the episode though.

I hope Shiro will be the narrator of the Heaven's Feel movie, because without his monologues,this UBW adaptation is really not good at all....
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Thelight52 said:
Thats was so rushed,damn, what the hell happened.
OP and ED are so awesome, can't say the same for the rest of the episode though.


They cut out Shirou's perspective and why he wanted to go to the Church.
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nocorras said:
Thelight52 said:
Thats was so rushed,damn, what the hell happened.
OP and ED are so awesome, can't say the same for the rest of the episode though.


They cut out Shirou's perspective and why he wanted to go to the Church.


And more some dialogues, I think.
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antonn said:
lucjan said:
Was Saber raped?

Yes.


Well. This is what I came to find out.







Glad that's out of the way then.
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nocorras said:
Thelight52 said:
Thats was so rushed,damn, what the hell happened.
OP and ED are so awesome, can't say the same for the rest of the episode though.


They cut out Shirou's perspective and why he wanted to go to the Church.


IKR.
I guess now we have two Shiros: This empty ufotable MC and the original one, from the visual novel...
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nocorras said:
Thelight52 said:
Thats was so rushed,damn, what the hell happened.
OP and ED are so awesome, can't say the same for the rest of the episode though.


They cut out Shirou's perspective and why he wanted to go to the Church.


He did say something about it during the back-to-back talk with Rin though.
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I wouldn't say OP was lame, but it doesn't match the screen in any way.
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Thelight52 said:
nocorras said:


They cut out Shirou's perspective and why he wanted to go to the Church.


IKR.
I guess now we have two Shiros: This empty ufotable MC and the original one, from the visual novel...


Some of it I understand but cutting his stuff and then having anime original stuff is kind of weird.... but w/e, nothing can be done at this point I guess
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Was there nothing else for Saber to wear? !

Not that I'm complaining...
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