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Apr 7, 2008 12:21 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Didn't expect Eva to turn good all of a sudden, but it was a good thing, that it happened.
I wonder for who Roberto works.
Jul 24, 2008 7:12 PM
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Can someone tell me if this stupid kid gets killed?

He's one of the worst characters in the world of anime and i was actually glad he got the shit beat out of him by his foster father cause i cant do it *~*

"What happens when we die?" I know that the ones who love us will miss us.
Nov 16, 2008 2:56 AM
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Personally I think Dieter rulz ^__^
Nov 21, 2008 3:19 PM
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i want two people to die. eva and deiter D: it was so close with eva dying. damn you temna. all temna cares about is saving people, hunting down johan, sex appeal(jk :p), etc.
Nov 30, 2008 10:43 PM
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See, Eva has good qualities. This episode proves it. She's always had some goodness in her heart. It's just hard for her to show it, and she was raised spoiled. Plus, she gets carried away with her emotions when she's upset.

Monster has some great character development.
Feb 11, 2009 2:17 AM
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^ Yes the character development in monster is admirable. And this episode was rather good.
Aug 6, 2009 2:07 AM
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Why all the hate for Dieter? He's a nice kid. O_o
Aug 10, 2009 12:19 PM
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I like the way they've used Eva in Monster but I wish they'd put a bit more scenes directly involving Johan in...I wanna see him murdering people XD
Dec 7, 2009 5:12 AM
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jaykaylol (Not specified) said:
Why all the hate for Dieter? He's a nice kid. O_o


Ditto. He's so cute and sweet. How could you hate him!?


Jan 5, 2010 7:51 PM

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I do however despise Tenma. He's just so perfect that he doesn't develop.
Jan 28, 2010 7:03 AM

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Another great ep.
Eva did not turn good in this episode. She turned good in the episode when she burned her house. Realizing that everyone except Tenma were after her wealth. In this episode however Eva showed her cunning. She tricked Roberto to save both, herself and Tenma. Eva realized that if she will not cooperate in killing Tenma she would have been dead in that room. Roberto is too professional not to notice her lie about Johan's pictures. A thing she did not realize is that she was needed to kill Tenma. Roberto would not be able to infiltrate the mansion alone.
Dieter is ok in my opinion. Although, he is too much like Naruto. His voice is the same and he is all cheery and self-denial. Trying to save everyone without thinking logically. A kid at that age should have ran away from a gun immediately. However, his courage could be caused by his short past. He was abused by Hartmann. He also spent quite some time with Tenma in dangerous situations like arson extinguishes, gunfights, etc. Therefore, we could consider this character development.
I would agree that Tenma is getting really boring. He is the same good guy from the beginning. Kenzo hasn't changed at all since he left the hospital. Saving criminals medically, and morally. Metamorphosing them into good people, and pulling them away from criminal life. While at the same time, trying to find and kill Johan, giving priorities to other humans' lives.
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Aug 1, 2010 11:44 PM

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i hate that son of a bitch roberto.
eva's turn around was good and pleasing to my eyes
dieter is a cool kid
overall-great episode ...)))))
Nov 8, 2010 6:11 PM

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that chicken looked goood average episode but still enjoyable

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Dec 12, 2010 6:01 AM

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Dunno about you guys,but I'm liking Eva more and more.
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Jan 11, 2011 1:40 PM
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deiter is cute man, how could anyone hate him, hes like tenmas child or something, even though he calls him his friend. Well alteast the stpuid b*tch became good, is till hate her. Her facial expressions and stuff.
May 17, 2011 5:42 AM

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Cool.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Dec 15, 2011 10:13 PM

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Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! D;
Feb 21, 2012 10:17 PM

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I still don't like Eva.
Mar 13, 2012 5:17 AM

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awesome
Jun 21, 2012 4:10 PM
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Was hoping that Eva will die in this ep
Sep 4, 2012 2:09 PM
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Wow,there is something good inside the bitchiness in Eva after all
Sep 18, 2012 2:22 PM

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Damnit she still isn't dead, I hate that she thinks that she still deserves Tenma after all she has done. I really hope she stops chasing after him, maybe be somewhat useful for once and help clear his name, although even if she did that I would still hate her.
Oct 1, 2012 4:54 PM

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Still don't like Eva, but at least she did something good. She'll probably do something redeeming before this whole thing's said and done, but I almost don't want her to. Every time she shows up I want to smack that snarky look off her face.

I like Dieter but he really needs to learn to pick his battles. How the kid's still alive is a mystery to me.
Nov 9, 2012 12:42 PM

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So most of you like Dieter? I don't. To me it feels like Dieter adds nothing to the anime. I was REALLY hoping for Eva to shoot him. Probably in a future episode Dieter will die or something and Tenma gets mad. Also where was Dieter when Lundy was chasing Tenma?

Running away from the cops with a 10 year old with you doesn't seem the best idea... Despite that, loving it so far
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Dec 17, 2012 7:57 AM

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Another Eva episode

About Episode:

So Roberto told Eva where Tenma is and he is doctor too yet even though he is different kind of doctor. I hope Eva won't give those photos to Roberto.

So Everyone is eating nicely outside and didn't even know that Otto can cook wow that's something for him. So 5 years ago there were underworld money project that has made fortune. So they used black money to make real one. And guy who was control of that disappeared I wonder if Johan has something to do with this.

And interesting plot clue that this 15 years old boy formed organization 5 years ago himself. So Eva and Dieter met together and in moment it looked already that Eva is going to do something but Eva saved him. I guess she has good site maybe... So Eva and that boy teamed up and Tenma found them. Nice movies for Tenma. But where Roberto went weird?? Luckily Tenma saved both of them. And Eva and that old man ate together. So Tenma is now going to Munchen.

Cool episode

5/5
Dec 23, 2012 1:16 PM

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Well, that reunion sure wasn't pleasant.
Jan 25, 2013 2:10 AM

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Getting a bit tired of all the plot contrivances in this show. Tenma randomly encounters a guy who just happened to be connected to an organization headed by Johan? And with no explanation as to how Tenma came across this guy. Come on... plain lazy writing.
Jan 28, 2013 7:55 AM

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All that Eva's turning good was surreal. I still don't like her.

Feb 11, 2013 6:23 PM
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All that Eva's turning good was surreal. I still don't like her.


Really? Personally, I like Eva's character development. She's definitely more likeable than during her arson days.
Mar 3, 2013 1:22 AM

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Syb3rStrife said:
jaykaylol (Not specified) said:
Why all the hate for Dieter? He's a nice kid. O_o


Ditto. He's so cute and sweet. How could you hate him!?


Because he will never become the Hokage!

On another note that bodyguard is absolutely terrible. Stands in the open in clothes that stand out in the forest with no gear on at all. Doesnt hear the fat guy sneaking up on him and gets wasted. Some bodyguard, he couldn't even guard a piece of poop.
Apr 18, 2013 7:48 AM

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Haha I was convinced for awhile there that Eva had shot herself in the leg as a means of getting back in with Tenma.
Just seemed like a big turn around, even though she's always been an unpredictable character.
Apr 26, 2013 6:36 AM

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If Tenma is there, no one will die from gunshot wounds even if shot in the head.
Aug 18, 2013 8:06 AM
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I hope Eva will stop doing any shit from now on and continue being a good bitch girl.
Sep 27, 2013 12:58 AM

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very intense episode :)

really love how Eva's character evolve in this episode!!

first off she was shaking as hell when she tried to offer a deal with Roberto

the former syndicate guy was lucky to have Tenma around!

lol Heckel is still there! finally Dieter!! where the hell was he in the last episodes!

so Johan formed an organization in just 5 years as a 15 year old O___O

poor Helmut dying just like that without having a lunch with his Boss :(

to be honest i thought Eva was really going to kill Tenma, guess she just wanted to see him after all these years.

good thing Dieter stood back and protected her!

and wow a shot in the leg can really fatally wound you due to lost of blood.

and wow i really thought Eva was going to die like that.

it's ironic to see the former Syndicate member is now preparing food and saying the same words Tenma said XD

though i don't get how he only has one body guard on the front, yet he says he has tons of armed men and surveillance so that's why Roberto backed out.

and Roberto didn't make any precence after he shoots Eva.

it's also amazing to see both Eva and the former member having a meal. trying to remind them how a meal was supposed to look like.

guess having a hectic and crazy life you always forget the smallest things in the world.

definitely one of the best!!

oh well i'll stop for now and study for me test this monday and tuesday O___O

gonna watch this again next week!!
Oct 2, 2013 11:26 PM

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I still really hope she gets killed off
Nov 12, 2013 9:21 PM

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i thought this was being rather slow but these later eps have pick up, quite an intense ep
Dec 10, 2013 6:18 AM

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Good for her, I'm happy that she actually has a brain. Few respect points gained.
Jan 7, 2014 2:09 PM

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It was obvious that she wouldn't kill tenma, she loves him, and dieter is a cool kid.
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Feb 2, 2014 10:18 AM

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all of you guys are some scary people. Hoping a kid dies to continue an animes development o-o. thats just downright wrong o-o

As of now, please try to refrain from looking at MAL. its a complete mess right now T-T
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Feb 9, 2014 7:34 PM

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I would not say that Eva turned good but she did show positive characteristics by trying to protect Tenma from Roberto. While Eva has always been in love with Tenma, this episode really showed how much she cared for him. Her actions fleshed out her character in a positive way in this episode. I also like her interaction with Dieter.
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Mar 7, 2014 6:33 PM

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Fuck Eva. A few good deeds should not redeem her for dissing Tenma when he pretty much needed her the most. And I have to agree, Tenma needs to drop Dieter off at some point otherwise we'll have another Raki on our hands here.
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Eva did right this episode, although she still has the wrong impression of Tenma that a conversation could solve at this point since she knows about Johan. She's such a tsundere.

But wow Johan managing an underground black market bank at 15 and turning it into his human experiment? Seriously this guy rocks.
Oct 4, 2014 9:25 PM

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I wouldn't say Eva was good in this episode. She's still as selfish as ever; in fact, she would rather have Tenma live and suffer than kill him. It's just as evil, as far as I'm concerned.

I wonder how long it will take for these leads on Johan to get somewhere.
Dec 20, 2014 6:57 AM

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I didn't expect Roberto would retreat and it was ended abruptly with Eva on the wheelchair out of nowhere, still it's well executed though. So far this series seems to glorify Johann in some way, making me want to know more about him.
Dec 22, 2014 11:51 AM

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Yeah Eva didn't turn good in this episode, her reasons for saving Tenma are just so she can sent him to jail (even tough she already knows Tenma is innocent). She is still bad, if not evil.
Feb 1, 2015 12:09 AM

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Just when I thought Eva was going to redeem herself from flames of hatred, she was only helping Tenma just so she could turn him in and make Tenma rot in jail for the rest of his life. What a bitch.

I don't find Dieter annoying honestly. While not a particularly good character, he's definitely better than Eva, Roberto, and Rat-face.

Just when I thought Eva was going to die, Tenma saved that whorebag. Fucking hell Tenma! You already have Roberto, Lunge, and the police on your ass!

I'm really wondering why Johan has more favorites than any other character in this anime? They keep glorifying him and saying how badass he is but we never see him in action. Guess we'll find out later.

Great episode! Onto the next one!

8/10
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Feb 12, 2015 6:53 PM

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Great episode. in fact i hate Eva from start but now i'm starting to like her. And of course Eva will not send Tenma to the jail. She just says these words because she is trying the keep in safe Tenma for protect him from Roberto.
Mar 21, 2015 3:00 AM

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Slightly redeemed. I just hope all this chasing people doesn't continue for too long, Tenma chasing Johan, Eva chasing Tenma and Lunge chasing Tenma, i have to say though the show has been at it's strongest when 2 characters meet since they're apart 90% of the time.

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Mar 29, 2015 4:09 AM
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Nice ep, love the soundtracks that is played on this ep.
Jun 3, 2015 7:01 PM
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Can anyone tell who is the man that Tenma lives with? I don't remember that I saw him in any another episodes
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