| Newer anime is easier for people to find, I guess. It's everywhere. On TV, licensed quickly, advertised by the anime companies, torrented all over the place. Most of the stuff I have been watching lately has been from the 80's though, and some from the 70's. But it is harder to find, and not often subbed. Then, for a lot of young people, old anime looks weird or scary ^_^ Same thing with young people and black and white movies. OMGNOCOLORRAAARR!!RUNAWAY! :D I am generalizing horribly of course, and there are obviously exceptions. |
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| LOL emi. XD (My husband took a Japanese film course, and his biggest complaint was that the class would complain every time they watched a black and white film >___> why would you be in a film course if you couldn't watch B&W? I think they were just Japanophiles.) My guess would be that it's the easiest to download. Once something gets licensed domestically, it's really hard to find (to download). Back in the VHS bootlegging days, we could get whatever we wanted. :B but then, it wasn't always free. |
| new anime is not ALWAYS the best i would say about 8 of the 100 new anime [per year] are like HOSHI- THIS IS AMAZING 20 of the 100 new animes are 'decent', but go on the top 50 anime and then the rest kinda really suck but most people like new anime because they're easier to access and has 'prettier' art then old ones and with old anime, you tend to forget them... unless they're REALLY good |
| New anime: -Faster, easier to download -More accessible, which is probably the same point as the first one. -Look more appealing to viewers than older anime (which I think is one of the more bigger reasons) -And they're more fresh in the mind? |
crowslayer91 said: but i doubt people in general say "*wakes up* hm.. lemme search around for hours finding eps for a good old 80s anime =D" LOL, that is what I do ^___^ |
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| Yes. Art is obviously the most important part of anime, they are drawings after all o.o But honestly, it's the MAL population distribution patterns, along with everything you guys have already mentioned. I don't like the idea that it's so easy for new anime to get in the top 100 either, sort of confuses me to be honest, it's not like the limits to ratings are going above 10. But I suppose it could be a weighted scoring thing. I haven't really looked that deeply into it. |
| also partially because new anime is often better because it stands on the shoulders of older anime. Mobile Suit Gundam was groundbreaking for its time, but these days would be considered trite. I suppose the same can be applied for most media. |
| I think there's a few things at play here. Firstly, current stuff is generally widely available online for easy download or streaming, which means anybody can watch it easily regardless of where they are in the world or other factors that slow down TV/DVD releases. Secondly, these online lists are made by people online, who are generally watching this newer, available stuff. Also a site like this one, seems to (in general) have a younger audience, who won't have seen much older stuff other than what's been butchered and put on Adult Swim. Other, older lists will tend to be a bit broader in their scope. And lastly... current stuff, is made for current tastes and trends, thus will be liked by the current generation. That's not to be discounted at all. Personally, I prefer newer animation, by a good margin, I love clean CG stuff. However I love stories from all eras... For older stuff, I'm currently rewatching Those Who Hunt Elves, and I was rewatching Outlaw Star not too long ago. Hyper Police is on of my favourites, and that's over ten years old now. A lot of good anime from the 90s. But then I also have stuff from the 70s and 80s. Granted, not a lot of it since DVDs haven't been made available of much of it, and digisubbers avoid old stuff in general. I do have several large boxes of it on VHS, but I haven't had a VHS player for years, so I don't even remember what most of it is... :( |
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| And here I have been thinking that anime as a whole has been going waaay downhill in recent years ^_^ The animation is more slick and pretty, and hey, we are attracted to shiny things, but story quality has taken a nosedive. Then again, with more series in production now, the odds are greater for more crap. There is still great anime being made, it is just more difficult to find. ;_; |
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| I personally like new anime better than most old (pre mid/late 90's) because the anime that I have seen from before then seem dated. I like new(er) movies and TV show too though, so it's not just an anime issue. |
| I sort of agree with the TS, actually. I don't understand why some people OVER rate anime that are not even done yet. I only give ratings when I've finished watching all the episodes. Like for example, Clannad. I like it, and I think it's been great so far, but since it's not done, I haven't given a score for it yet. I mean, what if it starts to suck after the first half? That will greatly affect the overall score, wouldn't it? Therefore, it's better not to form quick conclusions. As for the ones that are already finished, some titles in the list really deserve to be in the list (Like Ef - A Tale of Memories) but I'm sure most of them will be out of that list in a few months. People will just over rate new anime again and again. |
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| I think newer stuff tends to be in the "Top Anime" lists more because it's fresher on the mind of the writer and the reader- plus, it's more likely that the readers will have heard of it - specially if the list is targeted at the young crowd. The only thing, quality wise, that being newer guarantees is better animation. There's a lot of great old stuff out there... Urusei Yatsura, Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Revolutionary Girl Utena, to name a few (if you count "old" as being 10+ years). |
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jet2r0cks said: Like for example, Clannad. I like it, and I think it's been great so far, but since it's not done, I haven't given a score for it yet. I mean, what if it starts to suck after the first half? That will greatly affect the overall score, wouldn't it? Therefore, it's better not to form quick conclusions. It's KyoAni, they won't fail 8D i usually start rating a series a couple episodes in and then adjust the score accordingly as it moves on. for example, ive watched 4 episodes of TTGL and i currently have it set at 8, and that score can move up or down depending on how the rest of the series goes. the thing that annoys me is when people rate a series before it's even AIRED. that's just stupid.... personally since i still consider myself "new" to the anime scene compared to many others, I prefer new anime over old ones. cause even if the story may be good, poor animation (yes, it might've been good for it's time, but not anymore) is the thing that makes me uncomfortable when watching them. i prefer the sharpness of "new" anime. |
Arkano said: Btw neverender vai-te foder... it looked like french, but i knew it wasnt, and apparently (i googled it) its portugesish french. comes from the french 'vas te faire foutre' meaning 'fuck off'. not the most mature response btw as to the main topic; old or new; anime can be good or bad, depending on the story and the characters, this depends on the originality, creativity and storytelling ability of the makers. The only big difference is technology. |
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| He's my theory. The Japonese are literally the best nation on the planet for making incremental improvements to products. Production of anime has been very steadily progressing an the whole package has been evolving and improving. On the other hand the Japonese are not very good at innovation or perhaps lack prepensity to take risks. This reduces the chance that an anime will appear that is heads a shoulders better than everything else, that will be memerable for years to come. It's novell and not entiery true because anime is at times art and others entertaiment commerce at it's worst. Sometimes a inspired anime director will be given an opportunity to create something truly special. In general the entertainment industry internationally, in films, TV, games etc. has been improving gradually. If you think about films like Laurel & Hardy, Metropolis or Psycho, you'd wouldn't give them a 10 would you? These are actually excellent films because they were ground breaking at the time. Thus people, when you give an anime a score you should also think about it's place relative to other anime. Unfortunately this require a little experience and perhaps some research. Gurren Lagann didn't invent mechs, epic stories, drama or 99% of it's animation techniques; unfortunately alot of people do. Sometimes democracy works like square wheels! Personally, I only reserve perfect 10s for those anime that pushed the boundries and brought something refreshing to the scene, those that remind me why I sit through 10+ episodes of bullshit every season. |
Xjellocross said: jet2r0cks said: Like for example, Clannad. I like it, and I think it's been great so far, but since it's not done, I haven't given a score for it yet. I mean, what if it starts to suck after the first half? That will greatly affect the overall score, wouldn't it? Therefore, it's better not to form quick conclusions. It's KyoAni, they won't fail 8D i usually start rating a series a couple episodes in and then adjust the score accordingly as it moves on. for example, ive watched 4 episodes of TTGL and i currently have it set at 8, and that score can move up or down depending on how the rest of the series goes. the thing that annoys me is when people rate a series before it's even AIRED. that's just stupid.... Lemme guess... KyoAni fan? XD I know people who do that. Before Clannad started airing, some people from another site gave it a Masterpiece rating without even seeing it. Come on... |
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Arkano said: hahaha then you shouldn't have written such an provocative comment, idiot, I just stated my opinion about you like you did about me. I have no idea what you're talking about. I was 100% serious. I think people having opinions is a very hard concept to grasp. Then out of nowhere you just insult me, AND IN PORTUGELEON NO LESS. You're terrible. WHY DOES EVERYTHING I SAY MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY?! WHY?! |
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Neverender said: WHY DOES EVERYTHING I SAY MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY?! WHY?! Cause you have Hosaka all over your sig and avi and they can't take how GAR HE IS! 8D and arkano, if you're gonna add something there's something called "editing your post" :P although i don't see many people against it here, i still feel double posting is a forum sin. jet2r0cks said: Lemme guess... KyoAni fan? XD ZOMG HOW DID YOU KNOW!? =D XD |
Neverender said: Don't you worry, this totally unknown person will back you up. Because us unknown people ALSO HAVE OPINIONS !?!?!?Arkano said: hahaha then you shouldn't have written such an provocative comment, idiot, I just stated my opinion about you like you did about me. I have no idea what you're talking about. I was 100% serious. I think people having opinions is a very hard concept to grasp. Then out of nowhere you just insult me, AND IN PORTUGELEON NO LESS. You're terrible. WHY DOES EVERYTHING I SAY MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY?! WHY?! But on a more serious tone, I know people who do hunt for older animation. And I'm of the kind of looks for good "new" Anime and don't try to hunt around for the "good" oldies. Is easier this way and I'm still getting good anime. No big deal. Unless there's like, a lot of people recomending an oldie to me, in which case I will hunt all I can to get my hands on it (and hoping I won't be dissapointed by the exxagerations brought upon by nostalgia). |
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| I don't get the new anime productions often because it didn't "catch my eye". After years of watching anime, i'm much more strict with storyline and characters than ever, and the new series in my opinion are not so catchy and well-made. I'm trying to get more recent series and i still find one or another that are truly good, but i stick with the anime of 1998-2004 period. So many good series! :) EDIT: Arkano, as a brazilian user i'm feeling very ashamed about your behaviour. Neverender wasn't trying to pick a fight with anyone, it was just his opinion. If you want to blame him, so do it on PM and in a language he can understand. Grow up and don't try to destroy the portuguese-speaking country's reputation (that is really low in the internet world) here. :P |
SupermanJan 9, 2008 3:14 AM
| "A lesser man might call it a day and bask in the echoing voices of cheer and celebration. A lesser man might delight in the moment, knowing he's the ultimate hero, a benevolent Big Brother to all and an inspirational light of hope in the darkest of times. But Superman is not a lesser man. He renews his vigorous patrol of our world for wherever the battle for trust and justice must be fought, Superman will be there. Forever...and always."- Superman #150 |
| I seem to like anime from the late 90's/early 00's the best I think. Though I'm not really sure why, is it just a coincidence? Well either way I don't really find that anime is becoming increasingly "better" overall. |
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| OFF: orkut means anything to you, Arkano? XD It was totally corrupted by an invasion of brazilian users. Besides that, try to play MMORPG with the majority of players from Brazil (like Priston Tale and Ragnarok) and a MMORPG with few of them. There's a BIG difference related to education and good behaviour. Hmm, this subject deserves a topic. :) Well, everybody now are friends again, so let's return to the discussion. I don't think it's a coincidence, running_lemon. I agree that the art and character design of the series are improving, but the storyline is going way down. Running out of ideas (like Hollywood), maybe? |
| "A lesser man might call it a day and bask in the echoing voices of cheer and celebration. A lesser man might delight in the moment, knowing he's the ultimate hero, a benevolent Big Brother to all and an inspirational light of hope in the darkest of times. But Superman is not a lesser man. He renews his vigorous patrol of our world for wherever the battle for trust and justice must be fought, Superman will be there. Forever...and always."- Superman #150 |
Arkano said: I would like to know why the newest anime almost instantly gets to to the top of the top anime list... tell me what you think. Just for your information there are around 30 new animes in the top 50 by new I mean from at least 2005 until now. What, does anime have to be 'old' to get into the top 50? :S |
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Superman said: Besides that, try to play MMORPG with the majority of players from Brazil (like Priston Tale and Ragnarok) and a MMORPG with few of them. There's a BIG difference related to education and good behaviour. off topic: omg pristontale is SOOOooo full of brazillions. i always ended up partying with them. it was kinda akward sometimes. anyway. I think maxcherry pretty summed it up. When you first finish an anime and you like it you think that its so good because its fresh in your mind. Therefore, you tend to like it more, rate ithigher, etc. I know i initially rated ef-tale of memories a ten, then went back a few days later and changed it to a 9 because i had overrated it because i had JUST finished and was in shock by its goodness. I think if people rewatched / watched older series then they might get higher ratings. I know most of the shows i have rated 10 on my list i've seen at least twice. After seeing a show more than once its a lot easier to determine how you feel about it. (for me at least) |
| for me it kinda goes like this. you gottah respect older anime, and while some of it still may be good, for a younger generation a lot of it may seem stereotypical or played out. theres still a bunch that are classics that everyone can enjoy. as things progress fowards obviously some things get better, animation, voice quality, production and other such things. i prefer watching newer series because the art/animation means a lot for my enjoyment of a series, however you gottah remember where it came from. |
| for me it kinda goes like this. you gottah respect older anime, and while some of it still may be good, for a younger generation a lot of it may seem stereotypical or played out. theres still a bunch that are classics that everyone can enjoy. as things progress fowards obviously some things get better, animation, voice quality, production and other such things. i prefer watching newer series because the art/animation means a lot for my enjoyment of a series, however you gottah remember where it came from. |
| Older anime also has a more "sloppy" look in a lot of cases. People are easily attracted to good-looking animation. |
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