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Arcanix said:

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huh?

Don't worry about it. This was the perfect answer.

I'm talking about the first season
this whole original route thing only happened because they screwed up S1

Feb 13, 2015 4:50 AM

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Some of your complains are way too hilarious to take seriously. They kept the important scenes yet you guys still expect a 1:1 adaptation which even ufotable failed to do with F/sn?

C'mon man no one is expecting a 1:1 adaption
but how on earth can you say that the first season and now this original route do the manga justice? (and I say this as someone who watched the anime first)

Some changes are ok but Pierrot went too far

They aren't adapting from the manga.

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Z4k said:

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C'mon man no one is expecting a 1:1 adaption
but how on earth can you say that the first season and now this original route do the manga justice? (and I say this as someone who watched the anime first)

Some changes are ok but Pierrot went too far

They aren't adapting from the manga.

Like I already said
I'm only talking about the first season
this whole original route thing only happened because they screwed up S1

Feb 13, 2015 4:53 AM

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Journey_95 said:

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Don't worry about it. This was the perfect answer.

I'm talking about the first season
this whole original route thing only happened because they screwed up S1

No it didn't. Ishida specifically asked Pierrot to do a different route once the anime was greenlit. This was stated in the comments YJ magazine and it was also stated that he made the drafts for the second season back in July when the first season was airing.

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Z4k said:

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I'm talking about the first season
this whole original route thing only happened because they screwed up S1

No it didn't. Ishida specifically asked Pierrot to do a different route once the anime was greenlit. This was stated in the comments YJ magazine and it was also stated that he made the drafts for the second season back in July when the first season was airing.

I didn't know but why on earth would he do that?
The original manga is already finished

Feb 13, 2015 5:01 AM

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No it didn't. Ishida specifically asked Pierrot to do a different route once the anime was greenlit. This was stated in the comments YJ magazine and it was also stated that he made the drafts for the second season back in July when the first season was airing.

I didn't know but why on earth would he do that?
The original manga is already finished

Who knows? He probably wanted to add something in the anime he could do in the manga.

Feb 13, 2015 5:05 AM

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Arcanix said:

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Anyway, I don't really have any more expectations for this adaptations by Pierrot except for them to make a decent Kaneki vs Arima and Eto vs Arima since the story is already a mess as it is. Let's all hope they remake the whole TG manga first, by another studio ofc, in a few coming years before touching :re or it will be too late/much even for :re remake.

I guess no one likes to answer this question, but i'm going to ask you too. Do you have the draft that they use for the anime to judge this adaptation? Can you share that with the rest of the world? I'd very much like to see what it contains.

No, I'm basing this on S1. Let's see your opinion on S1 then, is it a decent adaptation? Do they follow the draft (manga) correctly? How did they handle the materials? Now, let's say there's an anime-original draft provided by Ishida himself to Pierrot, do you think they will do justice to it? IMO, No. They will just change things around and mess with the materials just like S1. When I mean the story is a mess, I don't mean they didn't follow the plot, rather it was handled very poorly. Just compare the experience of the anime and the manga, they still follow the same plot but... well, I don't think that I need to elaborate further on that since you've read the manga too.

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Z4k said:

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I didn't know but why on earth would he do that?
The original manga is already finished

Who knows? He probably wanted to add something in the anime he could do in the manga.

maybe the second season will surprise us but I doubt it

so far Route A has been a disappointing mess just like the first season

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Feb 13, 2015 5:15 AM

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There's a thread where all those draft panels are translated.

Feb 13, 2015 5:31 AM

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I guess no one likes to answer this question, but i'm going to ask you too. Do you have the draft that they use for the anime to judge this adaptation? Can you share that with the rest of the world? I'd very much like to see what it contains.

No, I'm basing this on S1. Let's see your opinion on S1 then, is it a decent adaptation? Do they follow the draft (manga) correctly? How did they handle the materials? Now, let's say there's an anime-original draft provided by Ishida himself to Pierrot, do you think they will do justice to it? IMO, No. They will just change things around and mess with the materials just like S1. When I mean the story is a mess, I don't mean they didn't follow the plot, rather it was handled very poorly. Just compare the experience of the anime and the manga, they still follow the same plot but... well, I don't think that I need to elaborate further on that since you've read the manga too.

100% agree how any fan of the manga can like this mess is a mystery to me

Feb 13, 2015 5:35 AM

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No, I'm basing this on S1. Let's see your opinion on S1 then, is it a decent adaptation? Do they follow the draft (manga) correctly? How did they handle the materials? Now, let's say there's an anime-original draft provided by Ishida himself to Pierrot, do you think they will do justice to it? IMO, No. They will just change things around and mess with the materials just like S1. When I mean the story is a mess, I don't mean they didn't follow the plot, rather it was handled very poorly. Just compare the experience of the anime and the manga, they still follow the same plot but... well, I don't think that I need to elaborate further on that since you've read the manga too.

100% agree how any fan of the manga can like this mess is a mystery to me

Because its not as bad as people make it out to be.

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100% agree how any fan of the manga can like this mess is a mystery to me

Their only "ONLY" mistake was the skipping on the kagune/kakuja explanations. Everything else was fine.

Feb 13, 2015 5:52 AM

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Arcanix said:

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100% agree how any fan of the manga can like this mess is a mystery to me

Their only "ONLY" mistake was the skipping on the kagune/kakuja explanations. Everything else was fine.

Yep, of course. No doubt about it.

Feb 13, 2015 6:14 AM

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Arcanix said:

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100% agree how any fan of the manga can like this mess is a mystery to me

Their only "ONLY" mistake was the skipping on the kagune/kakuja explanations. Everything else was fine.

no just no..
Can't believe that I'm hearing this

sure if you only watched the anime (like I did before) I could understand this sentiment but its clear that you read the manga so this is ridiculous

Feb 13, 2015 7:23 AM

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Journey_95 said:

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Their only "ONLY" mistake was the skipping on the kagune/kakuja explanations. Everything else was fine.

no just no..
Can't believe that I'm hearing this

sure if you only watched the anime (like I did before) I could understand this sentiment but its clear that you read the manga so this is ridiculous

I read the manga first before the anime yet I'd say the manga isn't flawless as people make it out to be. I'm not so blind like others to ignore the flaws the manga had which the anime covered really well such as the dove and gourmet arc. Both were the weakest arc in the manga with a bit of plot conveniences and I can fairly say the anime did a fine job covering them by switching the arcs. It helped the story flow really well. Like Arcanix said everything was fine if you compare the first 66 chapters of the manga with the anime except the part where the skipped the crucial explanations about Kagune/RC cells.

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Journey_95 said:

Arcanix said:

Their only "ONLY" mistake was the skipping on the kagune/kakuja explanations. Everything else was fine.

no just no..
Can't believe that I'm hearing this

sure if you only watched the anime (like I did before) I could understand this sentiment but its clear that you read the manga so this is ridiculous

If you have been around in TG manga discussions you should by now that Arcanix like messing with people. Don't take his comments too seriously.

Feb 13, 2015 8:48 AM

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Ragna92 said:

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no just no..
Can't believe that I'm hearing this

sure if you only watched the anime (like I did before) I could understand this sentiment but its clear that you read the manga so this is ridiculous

If you have been around in TG manga discussions you should by now that Arcanix like messing with people. Don't take his comments too seriously.

ok good to know

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Honestly, I think the way the manga hadnled the Gourmet and Hinami arc was just fine. The incident with Hinami made him realize that he had to get stronger to protect those he cares about 1rst step leading to shironeki, then the Gourmet arc made him see the results of his training and realisation that there are others ready to help him too, when in need. Not that he actually contemplated about that later on...

Happy happy happy!!!

Feb 19, 2015 1:01 AM

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Episode 7 spoilers

Ok finally they're focusing on Kaneki from now on.

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Are they taken from episode previews? If so then it's safe to assume that they are real.

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Z4k said:
Episode 7 spoilers

Ok finally they're focusing on Kaneki from now on.

Thanks for posting these. Also, if I may ask, where are you getting them from each week? :3

So it looks like we'll get an ending that's similar tol the manga, probably.

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@Kvothe You can see them from tumblr. Michi/Makyun's tumblr is active for such posts.

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Are they taken from episode previews? If so then it's safe to assume that they are real.

Actually Kanou's lab arc will probably start during the end of the episode.

Don't click unless you want to really know what happens in the next few episodes. Credit goes to OldMcdonald btw (Heavy Root A spoilers)

Since Ishida's draft is just too long some of these might not be added in the anime. Proof of that is when the simplified the Cochlea arc which was initially supposed to take 2 more episodes to cover. The episodes were limited so they just rushed through it because according to the draft Kaneki's development was pretty much frozen until Kanou's lab arc.

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Episode 7 spoilers

Ok finally they're focusing on Kaneki from now on.

Thanks for posting these. Also, if I may ask, where are you getting them from each week? :3

So it looks like we'll get an ending that's the manga, probably.

Tumblr is the best source to find things like these. Makyun usually posts the episode spoilers there.

Feb 19, 2015 1:41 AM

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Z4k, does that mean Anteiku Raid will be 4 episodes?

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Z4k, does that mean Anteiku Raid will be 4 episodes?

Kanou's lab arc should be covered by the end of episode 8 or beginning of episode 9. Rest of the episode will be transitional episode and episode 10,11 and 12 should be covering anteiku raid. If Kanou's lab arc took longer to cover its still possible for the studio to squeeze anteiku raid in two and a half episode since it mostly consists of fights. I just hope Morita directs the last 2 episodes especially the Arima vs Kaneki fight.

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Very interesting spoilers. So yeah looks like the Cochlea arc really was it's own separate little thing with a good mix of stuff from the Kanou arc thrown in, and now we'll be getting the rest of the Kanou arc. The Touka/Kaneki encounter makes me very happy!!! All of my favorite scenes from the manga are transitioning to the anime, really no complaints about "Root A" at this point considering how close it really has followed the story.

More and more this is pointing to the manga ending, unless some big divergence happens during the Anteiku raid. Almost like halfway through writing Root A they're like "oh shit, do you see how much this manga is selling?... Maybe we should stick to that." lol

Feb 19, 2015 2:23 AM

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Interesting. But I have less expectations for episode 8 next week which will be done by the same director who did episode 4 (which was laughably bad).

Feb 19, 2015 2:26 AM

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Interesting. But I have less expectations for episode 8 next week which will be done by the same director who did episode 4 (which was laughably bad).

Same here and nice signature lol.

Feb 19, 2015 2:29 AM

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Interesting. But I have less expectations for episode 8 next week which will be done by the same director who did episode 4 (which was laughably bad).

Same here and nice signature lol.

Thanks but it's not as great as yours. :P

Feb 19, 2015 4:17 AM

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Those images are confirmed real.

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Z4k said:

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Interesting. But I have less expectations for episode 8 next week which will be done by the same director who did episode 4 (which was laughably bad).

Same here and nice signature lol.

Do we have any information on staff involved in aired episodes? Like, has Morita directed any episode in this season yet? Cause none of Root A episodes gave out the same vibe/feelings as ep 1 and 12 of S1 yet.

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Same here and nice signature lol.

Do we have any information on staff involved in aired episodes? Like, has Morita directed any episode in this season yet? Cause none of Root A episodes gave out the same vibe/feelings as ep 1 and 12 of S1 yet.

No he hasn't directed any episode of season 2. He'll probably direct the last 2 episodes.

Episode 1: Shin Matsuo
Episode 4: Yoriyasu Kogawa
Episode 5: Yoshifumi Sueda
Episode 6: Tadahito Matsubayashi
Episode 7: Souichi Shimada
Episode 8: Yoriyasu Kogawa

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Z4k said:

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Do we have any information on staff involved in aired episodes? Like, has Morita directed any episode in this season yet? Cause none of Root A episodes gave out the same vibe/feelings as ep 1 and 12 of S1 yet.

No he hasn't directed any episode of season 2. He'll probably direct the last 2 episodes.

Episode 1: Shin Matsuo
Episode 4: Yoriyasu Kogawa
Episode 5: Yoshifumi Sueda
Episode 6: Tadahito Matsubayashi
Episode 7: Souichi Shimada
Episode 8: Yoriyasu Kogawa

Thanks, I hope so. The episodes he directed are the best in S1 and they really suit Ishida's style imo. I really hope to see an anime fully directed by him.

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I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this but the ending arts are gold.

Next episode we might get to see Kuzen's backstory since it has the same title as chapter 119.

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