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Apr 16, 2008 5:53 AM
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Great episode! That guy seems like a new version of Johan (only not has evil).
I wonder what Martin will do next (maybe they'll show the part where he gets shot, found it strange that they haven't shown it yet).
Apr 21, 2008 2:54 AM
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Yeah, who's that guy anyways?! He's also a blond guy, but really!

2 monsters now, eh?!
Sep 3, 2008 3:24 PM
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Kayro said:

That guy seems like a new version of Johan (only not has evil).

babykeiji said:
Yeah, who's that guy anyways?! He's also a blond guy, but really!

2 monsters now, eh?!

lol
Dec 17, 2008 4:47 PM
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Hmmm...
I keep flipping back and forth on whether I like Eva or not; this time I believe she will stay on my 'like list'. Dangnabbit~! She certainly can be an irksome character.
Also, I like Martin. =3
Dec 29, 2008 11:32 AM
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Well I will always hate Eva. What's there to like? The Johan wannabe is kinda annoying. I like where this is going. only like...14 more episodes :D
Apr 7, 2009 2:17 AM
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I kinda liked Eva in this episode, there were a lot of things about her to make me enjoy her.
May 12, 2009 8:17 AM
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That way an usual "Johan phyho attack"... Poor Martin =Е
Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM
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That guy is also a psycho XD
Aug 21, 2009 6:02 AM
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I thought Martin would shoot him or at least beat the crap out of him >_>
Mar 11, 2010 2:44 PM

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That guy was awesome, and I wanted eva dead from the beginning :X
May 11, 2010 7:52 AM
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jaykaylol said:
I thought Martin would shoot him or at least beat the crap out of him >_>


yeah, that's what I thought too!
May 11, 2010 7:53 AM
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and also, I hated when Martin just beated the crap out of Tenma at the begining.
Jul 20, 2010 9:18 PM

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Woah, I started to like Martin after hearing his story eventhough he beat Tenma..

Another monster?? I think that "another-Johan", used the same way as Johan

did to the investigator in Munich but looks like Martin's gonna hold on..
Jul 20, 2010 9:18 PM

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edit: sorry, double post..
Oct 19, 2010 11:34 PM

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The guy talking to Martin, was incredibly creepy. Extremely well executed episode.
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Nov 17, 2010 4:20 PM

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hm martin had a really interesting past, he seem really cool and i thought he was
strong mentally, but to think he was shaken

Behold of my awesomeness~
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But my feels.
May 18, 2011 7:24 AM

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Hrmm..
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
May 28, 2011 4:11 AM

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Good eppysode
Oct 17, 2011 2:58 AM

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Now thats messed up.
Mar 13, 2012 5:49 AM

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That new character talked in a weird way.
Mar 19, 2012 12:31 PM

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new char agian
Jun 11, 2012 6:24 AM
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Is the "glasses guy" trying to unleash a bunch of mini-Johans in the world and is this guy the first of many? Another Bonaparta lovechild?
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Sep 2, 2012 4:21 PM
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Dude i wish i could Destroy people mentally like the people in this show.
Sep 27, 2012 1:51 PM

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god I feel bad for Martin, he had a pretty shitty life not gonna lie.
Nov 17, 2012 2:19 PM

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Poor Martin. He really isn't a bad guy. He needs to stop working for the Baby, leave the country, and start over somewhere else with someone who's not addicted to drugs and alcohol.
Dec 21, 2012 5:40 AM

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Wow this episode was just awesome.

About Episode:

Martin's past seems to be really shit one he had to take care for his drinking mother all the time and mother even't wouldn't love him.

So Eva saw Johan in that party. Looks like also Tenma and Martin don't like each other so much. Haha Tenma just always came back to that hamburger place and Martin throw him out haha. Best starting of the episode.

Now who was that maniac that knew so much about Martin's life. Was he one of the created child by Bonaparte. And what was really Bonaparte's goal make world with full of Johan's kind of people. And that guy was just maniac. Also didn't knew that Martin llied about his girlfriend and so on. So I guess now the biggest mystery we have who really is Franz Bonaparte??

Martin seems really scared off Johan.

5/5
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Jan 29, 2013 2:56 PM

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Weird new character. Though his story is interesting.

Mar 5, 2013 6:29 PM

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MangaTurtle said:
Dude i wish i could Destroy people mentally like the people in this show.


That would be a pretty neat superpower. Just mindfuck people everywhere
Apr 28, 2013 4:04 PM

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Martin is a good fella.
May 8, 2013 9:56 AM

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So this seems to be longer story arc. People drifted by destiny. Suffering is good synonym for this series.
Jun 30, 2013 12:40 AM

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Martin's a very interesting character, hope he sticks around
Aug 22, 2013 11:42 AM
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Martin should have beaten the crap out of that Johann wannabe instead of Tenma and Martin is really not that bad.
Nov 3, 2013 1:52 AM

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wow such an amazing episode!!

Tenma got beat the hell out of him in the first scene. i already know Martin developed some sort of feelings towards Eva.

It seems the Martin also knows there's something weird about Johan. he already sensed he could be the devil himself.

i though Martin was gonna kill Eva and it'll be all over. He's basically being played by the organization.

and that rabbit teeth dork asshole pisses me off. just looking at him makes me want to punch this guy till he loses his face. this is one of those douchebag people who think they're all high and mighty and think they can manipulate everyone just like that.

though was very surprised he knows Martin's passed with Ebba and his mother. So Martin didn't kill his girlfriend and has simply left since he knows there's no more hope for her. he even took the blame and served a sentence of 8 years in prison. he probably killed the boyfriend so that the police will be able to pin him down.

and really, Martin should have at least hammered on his face till Johan arrives.

such a shame Johan didn't spoke to him, it's been a while since we last saw Johan manipulate someone face to face. the last one was the detective guy Richard Braun who was a friend of Dr. Reichwein was killed when he drank the alcohol while still being in rehabilitation.

though i would say Johan pretty much researched on this guy and just told some of the information he had for the douchebag to use.

and it's a shame it ends in a cliff hanger. they better show he he gets shot now!!
Dec 9, 2013 5:32 PM

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I don't know about everyone else but I feel like Johan should/will kill the guy talking with Martin. He's too obvious about his plans and too loud. It's not like Johan at all, Johan works behind the scenes and manipulates high-power/high-influencing people.

Poor Tenma getting beaten up by Martin, why does Martin always jump straight to violence, so unnecessary. Next episode will surly show how Martin was shot. It's funny how just Johan in the same room instills fear into people. I love it.
Dec 31, 2013 4:33 PM

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He broke him!
Mar 2, 2014 8:13 PM

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That new guy is creepy.
Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a problem.
Mar 16, 2014 11:15 AM

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Martin is cool and he is a good fighter 2.

Mar 21, 2014 2:42 AM

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Man I really was just waiting for Martin to beat the crap out of that guy, dude was just asking for it.
Apr 30, 2014 5:24 AM

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Damn, that guy gives me the creeps.
May 25, 2014 10:33 PM

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How does the new guy know so much about Martin?
Anyways Martin is a pretty likeable dude.
Eva lives a pretty pathetic existence, but she's becoming a very good character.

Jun 15, 2014 6:30 AM

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The new guy really dissected Martin. He was pretty much naked right there...at that point Martin was too busy fighting himself to beat the shit out of the new guy.
Feb 5, 2015 1:16 AM

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I hated that fucker who was talking to Martin. His face looks so dumb I wanna punch it.

Feb 12, 2015 12:07 AM

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Ick. More nudity. What happened to one poster scene? >.>;

Anyway, I can't say I want Eva to die. She's irritating and a mess, but under all of that is a heavily damaged person. Martin may very well be the kind of person she needs right now- that is, if she doesn't end up pushing him away too, like she has with everyone else. Even so, I hold her responsible for bringing Johan and that man together. She knew better than that.

I want to take another moment to praise the OST in this anime; it really added to the atmosphere and overall creepiness of the circumstances surrounding Martin's meeting of the mini-Johan. The evil nature of the man, the complete and total lack of conscience, the twisted views concerning life and death, it all came together to form a powerful scene where Martin realizes exactly the sort of people he's dealing with. I'm not surprised that he was fearful, shocked. It was essentially a psychological attack utilizing his "weak spots"- the deaths of his mother and girlfriend.

Putting that man and Johan together can't mean anything good.

I think it's pretty clear now how Martin will end up in a shootout. He hasn't killed Eva and plans on running away with her.
Apr 3, 2015 12:44 AM
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Damn that new guy is basically Johan 2.0 xD.

That soundtrack when he mindfucked Martin was powerful.
Apr 13, 2015 3:55 AM

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I'll be brief here, but one thing struck me when Eva mentioned bringing Mephistopheles and Faust together as a metaphor, with Mephisto being probably Johan and Faust being that new character, and if I recall, he "struck a deal" with Devil(Johan). So, if they follow this legend with Faust(the new guy being a Faustian), then the new guy is dissatisfied with his life, so he makes a pact with the Devil in order to gain unlimited knowledge, implying that he'll throw away his moral integrity in order to achieve power for a limited amount of time(his last talk about end of the world, i.e. causing chaos).
That's my take for the time being, I might be wrong tho, might have misinterpreted what Eva used a metaphor.
Apr 22, 2015 12:30 PM

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This new guy seems like an annoying version of Johan. Also, now I feel terrible for Martin.
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Aug 18, 2015 7:18 AM

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More backstory.

5/5
Sep 5, 2015 4:24 AM

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Really liking Martin right now.

Another Johan? lol
Sep 15, 2015 1:00 PM

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Psycho uses Psychological Attack!

It's Super Effective!
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Sep 27, 2015 12:24 AM
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Damn, getting crazy.
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