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Dec 9, 2014 2:15 PM

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Alfonse said:
I'm not getting what happened. So why didn't Tama want to be human? Was it because she was "dark" tama at the time? I don't understand.


It's got nothing to do with going dark mode. She was simply too ashamed to see Ruko. Tama is a kind a gentle person, but if she achieves her goal of becoming human by ruining other people via Wixoss then she is corrupted and "not the Tama Ruko knew". She felt too guilty.

Alfonse said:
And im guessing Mayu locked up tama bc she doesn't want all the LRIG's to be free?



That and also because Mayu is afraid of Tama finding happiness in the outside world and leaving her. Mayu even says that outright.


Alfonse said:
Also how is the real Iona back to her body? Where was she this entire time? Was she a LRIG?


Mayu always paired her up with incompetent Selectors because she didn't like her (as explained by Iona), her Selectors always lost so it's unlikely that she was ever in a human form. While not specifically stated, we can assume that she was either someone's LRIG or stuck around in limbo in the white room.
Because Tama completed the Eternal Girl ritual, but refused the human body, Iona's body as stated by Iona herself was "hollow", i.e. no one was occupying it.
Therefore Mayu shoved the original Iona back into the body to stop it from being empty, and because Mayu is a mean-spirited gal she probably thought it would be funny to do this because its the same as reversing the original Iona's wish of not wanting to be herself.



Seriously people. Just listen or watch properly and you can figure these things out yourself.
Dec 9, 2014 3:14 PM

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Wait a minute if original Iona's wish was to be someone else, then wouldn't her LRIG get that wish so the LRIG would become someone besides Iona and thus Iona would be nobody??? Geez this is getting really confusing.

Lol making it randomly start snowing to get Iona-LRIG a new name :p

So I guess Hanayo told Kazuki about the LRIG-selector thing? Looks like we have to wait to find out!
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Dec 9, 2014 3:19 PM

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With the slow pace they went I can't see how they'll finish within two episodes. Are we probably up for a third cour?
Dec 10, 2014 1:18 AM

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5$ says Hayano has Ulrith.
Dec 10, 2014 6:01 PM

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Noodle070 said:
Wait a minute if original Iona's wish was to be someone else, then wouldn't her LRIG get that wish so the LRIG would become someone besides Iona and thus Iona would be nobody??? Geez this is getting really confusing.

Original Iona's wish seems to be one of those exceptional ones which is fulfilled by the underlying mechanics of the system, not by the LRIG who takes her body.
Consider a "normal" wish:
Yuzuki's wish was to be Kazuki's girlfriend. -> Hanayo is tasked with seducing Kazuki while in Yuzuki's body, and maintaining the relationship forever.
Now consider Iona's exceptional wish:
Iona wished to not be Urazoe Iona. The underlying mechanics of selector battles drag her into the white room and allow Kuro/Yuki/"Lrig" to take her body. Her wish is fulfilled, leaving Yuki nothing more to do but live in Iona's body.


I still don't get how Yuki displaced Tama from Ruuko's LRIG card in season 1 episode 12. Did Mayu just decide to pull Tama out and push Yuki in on a whim?
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Dec 11, 2014 9:33 AM

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Takata said:

...I still don't get how Yuki displaced Tama from Ruuko's LRIG card in season 1 episode 12. Did Mayu just decide to pull Tama out and push Yuki in on a whim?


I wouldn't say "on a whim".
As we all know, Mayu can do whatever the heck she wants. I wouldn't be surprised if giving Kuro to Ruko was just a reward for her and Ulith causing chaos like they did. As for Tama, if she stayed as Ruko's LRIG and decided to go through with the wish the next time around, that would be seriously bad news for Mayu who wants to keep the game going.

It makes all the sense in the world to keep Tama and Ruko apart.
Dec 11, 2014 8:22 PM
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Takata said:

I still don't get how Yuki displaced Tama from Ruuko's LRIG card in season 1 episode 12. Did Mayu just decide to pull Tama out and push Yuki in on a whim?


Yuki's wish is to be the lrig of the one who defeated her... that's why Yuki and Tama exchanged... what Mayu's intention is not that important... i mean.. the thing that should happen is

Yuki -> a no-selector-LRIG and then go get a selector
Tama -> still Ruko's LRIG

they basically exchanged position... so Yuki became Ruko's LRIG and Tama became a no-selector-LRIG... and then the lonely mayu brought her to Ulith

i really hope they all get the happy endings... even Mayu... and Ulith
Dec 12, 2014 5:21 AM

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KazuKazu95 said:
Takata said:

I still don't get how Yuki displaced Tama from Ruuko's LRIG card in season 1 episode 12. Did Mayu just decide to pull Tama out and push Yuki in on a whim?


Yuki's wish is to be the lrig of the one who defeated her... that's why Yuki and Tama exchanged... what Mayu's intention is not that important... i mean.. the thing that should happen is

Yuki -> a no-selector-LRIG and then go get a selector
Tama -> still Ruko's LRIG

they basically exchanged position... so Yuki became Ruko's LRIG and Tama became a no-selector-LRIG... and then the lonely mayu brought her to Ulith

That seems to be forgetting the detail that LRIGs turned human are usually tasked with fulfilling their ex-selector's wish with no magical assistance. But... Yuki is probably one of the "special" LRIGs that can fulfill wishes that would normally be impossible. But on the other hand... in this case, the one tasked with granting the wish is Ulith, not Yuki, and Ulith appears to be a normal LRIG, not a special LRIG, so there's nothing Ulith could have done to eject Tama and replace her with Yuki. @.@

I don't think I'll actually mind if I don't figure this one out anyway. ^^
Dec 12, 2014 10:55 PM

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-_- I only just realized what LRIG is backwards.
Dec 12, 2014 11:44 PM

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RinnyPie said:
-_- I only just realized what LRIG is backwards.

omg, i would have never noticed, you just blew my mind.
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Dec 15, 2014 11:45 PM

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zunderdog24 said:
RinnyPie said:
-_- I only just realized what LRIG is backwards.

omg, i would have never noticed, you just blew my mind.

I just noticed the same thing xD
Can't believe I didn't see it before.
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Dec 27, 2014 11:18 PM

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I feel like a death flag has been raised for Yuki...

kuroikishi said:
(On the other hand, I can't help but keep hearing Shimako talking when Iona speaks lol)

OMG I know! I was like it's Shimako!! <3 Too bad the real Iona never conversed with Touko Ulith.
Dec 28, 2014 6:25 PM

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I'm starting to get confused as to who's who with all the body and card changing going around lol >_< So at least "Iona" we can now call Yuki to help differentiate a bit :P
Poor Chiyori losing like that ... and then ELDORA CLIMBING OUT OF THE CARD WTF O_O It's that easy?! Who would've known lol
Akira goes a bit crazy with showing Ulith her "love" ... and welp, they battle. LOVE Dark Tama ... man, I wish we could see more of that it'd be so cool XD Oh well, so Ulith becomes a LRIG again and Tama refuses to enter Iona's body, so the "original" Iona returns it seems ... interesting. Didn't expect that to happen :O
So Mayu traps Tama in a cage for leaving her ... oh dear. Tama doesn't want Ruuko or anyone to see her "bad" side ... hmm, this will be interesting :O
Also, seems like Hanayo gets a surprise visit from her old friends ... makes sense she's the one who let them know since she saw her and everything. Not to mention seems like her and Kazuki aren't getting along spectacularly ...
I liked the new version of the ED. Fit pretty well with what was going on IMO :3
Dec 30, 2014 9:24 AM

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Wait what?! Iona wasn't Iona all this time??? Apparently I was the only confused about this T_T
Dec 31, 2014 11:24 PM

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Lots of stuff going on right now, I like!
Seems like Mayu has the most broken mind of them all.
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Jan 1, 2015 2:54 AM
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Does anyone have a link to the version of the ending that plays in this episode?
Jan 8, 2015 7:51 PM

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Man this second season really turned around. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the whole thing, but this second half is really good.
Jan 25, 2015 2:35 PM

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Nice development! Really like where this is going and with two more episodes I do wonder how this season will end.
Feb 6, 2015 12:01 PM
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Well, things got really interesting now :3
Feb 7, 2015 8:14 PM
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Good to know the real Iona is back in her body. Ulith becomes an Eterna Girl, and Tama once again refuses to become human. To make the show even more interesting, Mayu lockes Tama in a cage, and tells her she prefers Ulith.


Hanayo is back. I was wondering why she hadn't been shown.

Sep 24, 2015 9:41 PM

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Akira got rekt. Did she died?

Whoa the real Iona is back and my Iona becomes Yuki.

Next up, Yuzuki and her LRIG.

Jan 2, 2017 6:43 AM

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So Mayu is calling Tayu a bad girl even though she is light because she is trying to get friendly with people thinking of her as a traitor. She sealed her. And the reason why Tama doesn't remember any other battles is because there were none. Her first selector was Ru and before that she was held captive by Mayu.

So the question is what was the Mayu's reason for letting her out that time? Was it because she saw Ru as a potential person to fulfill her real wish? Like when Yuzuki was saying that her real wish is not revenge.

Tama is Mayu's light and Yuki is her darkness.Currently Mayu is all dark so she sealed away her light,but at some point she let it go.Deep inside she wants to be filled with light and let go of her darkness.
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Tama's screams are making me want to cry. This seiyuu is brilliant.
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