| It's a solid route imo. Thoughts: * You don't know anything about the servants, masters, the war, etc. You don't even know Kirei is a master himself, even though he's a very suspicious character. You don't know the holy grail is actually evil. Everything about the war is new to you. So even if you compare it to the other routes, Fate is still intricate because all of these things make the war more complex for newcomers. * There were a few great scenes in the route, like Saber vs Rider on the rooftop and how Shinji dies afterwards. * I think the secret behind the bodies from the previous war hidden in the church was pretty dark and awesome. * The mystery behind Gilgamesh until later on is a pretty cool plot twist, given the fact that nobody expects yet another servant to show up - let alone the fact that you know nothing about him when he shows up at the beginning of the novel. * Kirei also plays a bigger role in Fate than in UBW. The sacrifice of Illya at the end has the potential to be a disturbing scene as well as gory - while I wouldn't compare it to Gil fucking ripping her heart out, it's still pretty damn dark. The "problem"? The way F/SN was written allowed Nasu to raise the stakes and make things progressively deeper as it relies on prior knowledge. I don't see that as a problem though. Simply put, the fate route doesn't need to have crazier twists or whatever, because everything is still a mystery. |
| problem for me with the fate route is maybe that i"ve seen fate/zero first and that i saw the deenpoisoning anime, so even if i liked the route, i think i didn't like it as much as it was intend too... But ... NOW that i have the final upgrade from hell of fate and that UFOtable brainwashed my way of thinking of the route. I think i will appreciate it a lot more. (well anyway i was much more into it the first time i read it thant when i watch de deensh*t) |
| Another reason I like Fate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcDbqz0gXL0 And accompanying scene + Continuation of the Dream were pretty great. |
| I actually prefer Fate. It's probably the worst written one, but it's about a kid not giving up on his dream to be a superhero and ending up with a magical girlfriend for eternity -if we count /that/ ending-. The execution is obviously not good, but I prefer the premise to the other two. At least as a vn route, watching the other two as tv shows/movies might be more fun, but when it comes to playing, fate is sweeter, in a cheesy way. I don't mind that. |
| Its a good route, i like it, just not as much as UBW and to some extent, HF. It serves well as an introductory route to the novel in general, loved some parts of it, not a fan of the SaberxShirou romance (but still not as bad and bland as SakuraxShirou). So many things i'd have loved to see, such as Archer vs Berseker and Lancer vs Gil. |
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InsertPriestHere said: Another reason I like Fate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcDbqz0gXL0 And accompanying scene + Continuation of the Dream were pretty great. I need to stop listening to that song, it always depresses me. |
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WhipItGood said: I actually prefer Fate. It's probably the worst written one, but it's about a kid not giving up on his dream to be a superhero and ending up with a magical girlfriend for eternity -if we count /that/ ending-. The execution is obviously not good, but I prefer the premise to the other two. At least as a vn route, watching the other two as tv shows/movies might be more fun, but when it comes to playing, fate is sweeter, in a cheesy way. I don't mind that. Exactly. It's not written as good as HF or UBW, even Nasu said that. But the concept it what's good =3 |
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WhipItGood said: I actually prefer Fate. It's probably the worst written one, but it's about a kid not giving up on his dream to be a superhero and ending up with a magical girlfriend for eternity -if we count /that/ ending-. The execution is obviously not good, but I prefer the premise to the other two. At least as a vn route, watching the other two as tv shows/movies might be more fun, but when it comes to playing, fate is sweeter, in a cheesy way. I don't mind that. A kid not giving up on his dream is UBW premise too, dood, he just understand more that dream WrongPriest said: Who cares lol? When Rider used her fucking noble phantasm on Shirou during a H-scene nobody went: "Nah I can't fap to this, this is fuckin stupid" It's a sex scene, it's for titillation. It's a good end, it's for feeling good. Just have sex, who cares about males being raped? Plzzzzzz |
| I....um.....actually like Fate more than HF. It and UBW were always really great to me. I had hoped ufotable would adapt all 3 routes but sadly, no. Nasu being a more experienced writer now simply adds salt to the wound. |
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VarunaBles said: I....um.....actually like Fate more than HF. It and UBW were always really great to me. I had hoped ufotable would adapt all 3 routes but sadly, no. Nasu being a more experienced writer now simply adds salt to the wound. Yay, a unique opinion! |
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| It was nice as an introduction while I was still reading it. A lot of things felt mysterious since you didn't know anything at that point. So yea that was fun and ultimately the best part about it for me. But once I got into UBW and especially HF, I pretty much stopped caring about it. I guess it didn't help that Saber was not a favourite of mine in the end. |
VarunaBles said: I....um.....actually like Fate more than HF. It and UBW were always really great to me. I had hoped ufotable would adapt all 3 routes but sadly, no. Nasu being a more experienced writer now simply adds salt to the wound. Runa-chan ;_; *hugs* |
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| I will agree that Fate is probably the weakest route, but the problem I have is that everyone is acting like it's the only route which is slow and plodding where scenes take way too damn long to advance. It's not; that's the entire VN. Are people here actually acting like the first half of UBW has a lot more going on than Fate? They don't. I'm just finishing up the VN and found the first halves of all three routes to be filled with mundane events during their first halves. Well, Heaven's Feel isn't too bad, but UBW definitely is. UBW's first half is by no means any better than Fate's. I'd probably say it's worse, even, but maybe that's just because I strongly prefer Saber ahead of Rin. HF is very eventful through the entire route, but I found Fate and UBW to both be filled with too many days where I looked back on them and said, "Did anything important actually happen?" Which is probably the main thing; everyone here loves Rin but it seems the love for Saber is low. I vastly preferred the romance between Shirou and Saber to the other pairings and, more importantly, definitely preferred Fate's ending to UBW's. UBW's was definitely great, but Fate's was so perfectly tragic and bittersweet that it's easily one of my favorite endings. Where UBW shines is in the story and world building elements of its second half, combined with an emphasis on philosophy. Fate lags here because it's a more straightforward adventure, whereas UBW's plot during its latter half is considerably more interesting and... I guess unique. And UBW's ending really was great, even though I preferred Fate's, because it's perhaps the culmination of UBW's philosophical pondering. Most importantly, though, I feel as if experiencing Fate is mandatory to receiving maximum appreciation of UBW or HF, because it provides a lot of information that increases the enjoyment of the following two routes. Plus, Saber isn't especially noteworthy in either UBW or HF. Her development is completely centered in the Fate route and it is her development which makes her my favorite FSN character. Neglecting that fact is detrimental to her character. I think the people missing out on Fate are going to be missing out on Saber, because UBW sure as heck isn't going to be getting her any new favorites. tl;dr Fate is the worst route overall but mandatory for the other routes, has GOAT Saber development which it sucks anime only watchers are going to miss, has the best ending, and its first half is just as good as UBW's. IMO, Fate's strengths are its romance and adventure, UBW's strengths are its philosophy and development of Shirou, and HF's strengths are its morbidity, psychological elements, and considerably more plot twists. |
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Zadion said: I will agree that Fate is probably the weakest route, but the problem I have is that everyone is acting like it's the only route which is slow and plodding where scenes take way too damn long to advance. It's not; that's the entire VN. Are people here actually acting like the first half of UBW has a lot more going on than Fate? They don't. I'm just finishing up the VN and found the first halves of all three routes to be filled with mundane events during their first halves. Well, Heaven's Feel isn't too bad, but UBW definitely is. UBW's first half is by no means any better than Fate's. I'd probably say it's worse, even, but maybe that's just because I strongly prefer Saber ahead of Rin. HF is very eventful through the entire route, but I found Fate and UBW to both be filled with too many days where I looked back on them and said, "Did anything important actually happen?" Which is probably the main thing; everyone here loves Rin but it seems the love for Saber is low. I vastly preferred the romance between Shirou and Saber to the other pairings and, more importantly, definitely preferred Fate's ending to UBW's. UBW's was definitely great, but Fate's was so perfectly tragic and bittersweet that it's easily one of my favorite endings. Where UBW shines is in the story and world building elements of its second half, combined with an emphasis on philosophy. Fate lags here because it's a more straightforward adventure, whereas UBW's plot during its latter half is considerably more interesting and... I guess unique. And UBW's ending really was great, even though I preferred Fate's, because it's perhaps the culmination of UBW's philosophical pondering. Most importantly, though, I feel as if experiencing Fate is mandatory to receiving maximum appreciation of UBW or HF, because it provides a lot of information that increases the enjoyment of the following two routes. Plus, Saber isn't especially noteworthy in either UBW or HF. Her development is completely centered in the Fate route and it is her development which makes her my favorite FSN character. Neglecting that fact is detrimental to her character. I think the people missing out on Fate are going to be missing out on Saber, because UBW sure as heck isn't going to be getting her any new favorites. tl;dr Fate is the worst route overall but mandatory for the other routes, has GOAT Saber development which it sucks anime only watchers are going to miss, has the best ending, and its first half is just as good as UBW's. IMO, Fate's strengths are its romance and adventure, UBW's strengths are its philosophy and development of Shirou, and HF's strengths are its morbidity, psychological elements, and considerably more plot twists. I probably agree with about 80% of that :D I do like the Saber/Shirou romance most, but that's more to do with what isn't focused on in the story versus what is. |
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Zadion said: -SNIP- Pretty much this =D *high 5's* mickdrew_99 said: Zadion said: -snip- I probably agree with about 80% of that :D I do like the Saber/Shirou romance most, but that's more to do with what isn't focused on in the story versus what is. Again, p much this. Saber and Shirou's real depth isn't show in Fate, but is sidelined a bit in UBW. |
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mira-lala said: mickdrew_99 said: I probably agree with about 80% of that :D I do like the Saber/Shirou romance most, but that's more to do with what isn't focused on in the story versus what is. I'm confused.... Sorry, I should have been more clear. There are subtleties to the romance between Saber and Shirou that makes me like it the most, even though these subtleties aren't focused on much in the actual story. While I don't think their relationship was very believable in how it progressed, the comparability between them is there, it's just understated. idk I might be coming off even more confused |
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mickdrew_99 said: mira-lala said: I'm confused.... Sorry, I should have been more clear. There are subtleties to the romance between Saber and Shirou that makes me like it the most, even though these subtleties aren't focused on much in the actual story. While I don't think their relationship was very believable in how it progressed, the comparability between them is there, it's just understated. idk I might be coming off even more confused No, lol. I re-read it, Lala-chan was just being a baka. But yeah, I agree with you. They have great potential in becoming an actual couple. It wasn't 'left out' but Nasu was having problems with taking Arthur out of his mind. Ofc, that's why he's said he would write it better if he had the chance =3 |
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mickdrew_99 said: mira-lala said: I'm confused.... Sorry, I should have been more clear. There are subtleties to the romance between Saber and Shirou that makes me like it the most, even though these subtleties aren't focused on much in the actual story. While I don't think their relationship was very believable in how it progressed, the comparability between them is there, it's just understated. idk I might be coming off even more confused I think it was said somewhere that the servant you summon mirrors yourself. Saber and Shirou understood each other so well. Contrasted with Rin, who has a hard time understanding Shirou but loves him anyways. And Sakura who just loves him -to death-. |
SwordHand said: I think it was said somewhere that the servant you summon mirrors yourself. Saber and Shirou understood each other so well. Contrasted with Rin, who has a hard time understanding Shirou but loves him anyways. And Sakura who just loves him -to death-. Yeah, exactly. There was more of a connection between Shirou and Saber IMO, despite their terribly awkward date. Plus, not gonna lie, I'm about two in-game days away from completing HF so I dunno how it ends. That said, I do like the other two pairings, just not as much. Shirou and Rin is probably my least favorite and IMO makes the least sense. I like Shirou and Sakura purely because I can't help but pity the fuck out of her considering her tragic past. FlameseeK said: It's a solid route imo. Thoughts: * You don't know anything about the servants, masters, the war, etc. You don't even know Kirei is a master himself, even though he's a very suspicious character. You don't know the holy grail is actually evil. Everything about the war is new to you. So even if you compare it to the other routes, Fate is still intricate because all of these things make the war more complex for newcomers. * There were a few great scenes in the route, like Saber vs Rider on the rooftop and how Shinji dies afterwards. * I think the secret behind the bodies from the previous war hidden in the church was pretty dark and awesome. * The mystery behind Gilgamesh until later on is a pretty cool plot twist, given the fact that nobody expects yet another servant to show up - let alone the fact that you know nothing about him when he shows up at the beginning of the novel. * Kirei also plays a bigger role in Fate than in UBW. The sacrifice of Illya at the end has the potential to be a disturbing scene as well as gory - while I wouldn't compare it to Gil fucking ripping her heart out, it's still pretty damn dark. The "problem"? The way F/SN was written allowed Nasu to raise the stakes and make things progressively deeper as it relies on prior knowledge. I don't see that as a problem though. Simply put, the fate route doesn't need to have crazier twists or whatever, because everything is still a mystery. I strongly agree with these too, especially points 1 and 3. |
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| Errr... Saber does not understand Shirou, she can relate to him and his goal and idealism, b ut she can't "understand" his psychology. She likes his goals. She in a way is an enabler element. Saber does not love "Shirou" and Shirou does not love "Saber" - they love what each other stands for, more like, in their own lives.That's why Saber is able to accept her past and die and Shirou can continue on his path with her memory - they are in love with the ideal. Rin HATES THE FUCK out of Shirou's goals. She is confused by his nature and selfless streak. But she instinctively understands and relates to him. She is the balancing element in his life They treat each other as equal people and they challenge each other an they bring out best sides out of each other, in a way completing what is missing in each other. Sakura is blind and Shirou is her world. She is the opposing element in his life. They oppose each other and both are destructive for each other's stability(because of sacrificial nature towards each other) and would have to overcome all of that to even function. Very different relationships |
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CookingPriest said: Errr... Saber does not understand Shirou, she can relate to him and his goal and idealism, b ut she can't "understand" his psychology. She likes his goals. She in a way is an enabler element. Saber does not love "Shirou" and Shirou does not love "Saber" - they love what each other stands for, more like, in their own lives.That's why Saber is able to accept her past and die and Shirou can continue on his path with her memory - they are in love with the ideal. Rin HATES THE FUCK out of Shirou's goals. She is confused by his nature and selfless streak. But she instinctively understands and relates to him. She is the balancing element in his life They treat each other as equal people and they challenge each other an they bring out best sides out of each other, in a way completing what is missing in each other. Sakura is blind and Shirou is her world. She is the opposing element in his life. They oppose each other and both are destructive for each other's stability(because of sacrificial nature towards each other) and would have to overcome all of that to even function. Very different relationships TBH, this exactly explains why I find Shirou and Rin's relationship the most boring. But I disagree that Saber "does not understand Shirou" and that they did not actually love each other. Shirou's ideals and Saber's ideals were virtually ideal. The only thing Saber did not understand was Shirou's naivety in believing he could save everyone. In a sense, I also think she was rather hypocritical in that she disliked Shirou's self-sacrificial nature, despite being exactly the same. |
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SwordHand said: mickdrew_99 said: Sorry, I should have been more clear. There are subtleties to the romance between Saber and Shirou that makes me like it the most, even though these subtleties aren't focused on much in the actual story. While I don't think their relationship was very believable in how it progressed, the comparability between them is there, it's just understated. idk I might be coming off even more confused I think it was said somewhere that the servant you summon mirrors yourself. Saber and Shirou understood each other so well. Contrasted with Rin, who has a hard time understanding Shirou but loves him anyways. And Sakura who just loves him -to death-. Actually, the servant only mirrors the master's personality if the master doesn't use a catalyst. In that case, a servant that is compatible with the master is summoned =3 CookingPriest said: Errr... Saber does not understand Shirou, she can relate to him and his goal and idealism, b ut she can't "understand" his psychology. She likes his goals. She in a way is an enabler element. Saber does not love "Shirou" and Shirou does not love "Saber" - they love what each other stands for, more like, in their own lives.That's why Saber is able to accept her past and die and Shirou can continue on his path with her memory - they are in love with the ideal. Rin HATES THE FUCK out of Shirou's goals. She is confused by his nature and selfless streak. But she instinctively understands and relates to him. She is the balancing element in his life They treat each other as equal people and they challenge each other an they bring out best sides out of each other, in a way completing what is missing in each other. Sakura is blind and Shirou is her world. She is the opposing element in his life. They oppose each other and both are destructive for each other's stability(because of sacrificial nature towards each other) and would have to overcome all of that to even function. Very different relationships Err, no, once again, your interpretation. Saber DOES understand Shirou. They have the same ideals. Lol, so Shirou can understand Saber but not the other way round? If he's able to understand her, the mind of a lost girl trying to be King, the thing that millions in her Kingdom couldn't, you can't say that it can't go the other way round. Wait, so what's stopping her from understanding him? Hmm? Again, lol 'in love with the ideal'? The ideal that she supposedly let go of? No, that's wrong. And I am outright stating it. Yes, Lala spams textwalls, so what? What better way to get my point across? Plus, how da fuq does she enable him? He's seen her past, what will happen if he follows him ideals, and she enables him? After she realized her mistakes, she told him that if he kept on following that path, he will end up like her. Rin is the balancing element? In the end, she just wants him to lose that ideal. In the end, she doesn't want him to kill 10 to save 1000, kill one loved one to save strangers. That is what she wants. That's closer to Sakura's side, than the middle. Stop tricking yourself. Rin knows nothing about Shirou. She can't understand what's going on in that mind. Rin, a complete random person, can understand Shirou more that him mirror image, who thinks just like him? What a fucked up logic you have. If you don't bother to read the wall, there's no point continuing this ~.~ Especially when it's not the pairing thread |
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Zadion said: CookingPriest said: Errr... Saber does not understand Shirou, she can relate to him and his goal and idealism, b ut she can't "understand" his psychology. She likes his goals. She in a way is an enabler element. Saber does not love "Shirou" and Shirou does not love "Saber" - they love what each other stands for, more like, in their own lives.That's why Saber is able to accept her past and die and Shirou can continue on his path with her memory - they are in love with the ideal. Rin HATES THE FUCK out of Shirou's goals. She is confused by his nature and selfless streak. But she instinctively understands and relates to him. She is the balancing element in his life They treat each other as equal people and they challenge each other an they bring out best sides out of each other, in a way completing what is missing in each other. Sakura is blind and Shirou is her world. She is the opposing element in his life. They oppose each other and both are destructive for each other's stability(because of sacrificial nature towards each other) and would have to overcome all of that to even function. Very different relationships TBH, this exactly explains why I find Shirou and Rin's relationship the most boring. But I disagree that Saber "does not understand Shirou" and that they did not actually love each other. Shirou's ideals and Saber's ideals were virtually ideal. The only thing Saber did not understand was Shirou's naivety in believing he could save everyone. In a sense, I also think she was rather hypocritical in that she disliked Shirou's self-sacrificial nature, despite being exactly the same. For me this explains why I find SHirou/Saber boring. It works platonically but as relationship its dull. Rin/Shirou has the most dynamic because they will always be snappy at each other and they will always challenge each other and call out each other on bullshit. Its never calm, but its always equal and for the better. Sakura/Shirou on other hand is not even boring...it sjust....dulll. meh. Shirou is not naive. HE KNOWS he can't save everyone. Saber is unable to comprehend WHAT is up with shirou exactly(Rin catches on faster), because she sees himself in Shirou, which overshadows his psychology. |
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CookingPriest said: Zadion said: TBH, this exactly explains why I find Shirou and Rin's relationship the most boring. But I disagree that Saber "does not understand Shirou" and that they did not actually love each other. Shirou's ideals and Saber's ideals were virtually ideal. The only thing Saber did not understand was Shirou's naivety in believing he could save everyone. In a sense, I also think she was rather hypocritical in that she disliked Shirou's self-sacrificial nature, despite being exactly the same. For me this explains why I find SHirou/Saber boring. It works platonically but as relationship its dull. Rin/Shirou has the most dynamic because they will always be snappy at each other and they will always challenge each other and call out each other on bullshit. Its never calm, but its always equal and for the better. Sakura/Shirou on other hand is not even boring...it sjust....dulll. meh. Shirou is not naive. HE KNOWS he can't save everyone. Saber is unable to comprehend WHAT is up with shirou exactly(Rin catches on faster), because she sees himself in Shirou, which overshadows his psychology. She sees herself in him? In what way is she similar to him? Also, equals, yeah. For the better, not necessarily. Again, your opinion. |
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Grey-Zone said: I tried to watch the DEENime many, many years ago, but dropped it around EP2-4 or something like that, had absolutely no interst in the VN at that time. Then about a year ago I stumbled upon Fate/Zero and watched it (I didn't know at that time that F/SN UBW would air this Fall). I immidietly followed up with the VN and read through it in less than a week. It was the old version (I only got the 2012 version much later after I had already finished the VN completely) Fate route was... OK... but after I had watched Zero, I thought it was weird how Kotomine just stood there and got himself stabbed, but I just let it slip until I read the whole VN. Then I got into UBW... the moment Burst Up started playing, I though "wow this Saber vs Berserker fight... I think i will really, really like this route!" And then I completely forgot about the Fate route's existence aside from scenes where I possibly needed the knowledge from it. For me: HF = UBW > Zero > Fate when it comes to enjoyment. You got hyped up cos of the fights? Seriously? ~.~ Even I'm not that bad... |
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mickdrew_99 said: mira-lala said: Holy shit! Don't mess with Lala-chan... But Lala-chan isn't serious =3 Lala-chan has never been serious in her life. I may just become a murdered if I get serious~ |
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mira-lala said: You got hyped up cos of the fights? Seriously? ~.~ Even I'm not that bad... No, rather it was the "atmosphere" of the route. The fight versus Berserker in UBW was the first thing that clearly was different from the Fate route, so it was quite memorable and it was the first time Archer showed his real GARness. Is the bolded part by itself not enough of a reason to almost forget the existence of the Fate route on the spot? |
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Grey-Zone said: mira-lala said: You got hyped up cos of the fights? Seriously? ~.~ Even I'm not that bad... No, rather it was the "atmosphere" of the route. The fight versus Berserker in UBW was the first thing that clearly was different from the Fate route, so it was quite memorable and it was the first time Archer showed his real GARness. Is the bolded part by itself not enough of a reason to almost forget the existence of the Fate route on the spot? Implying that killing berserker 6 times solo wasn't GAR. |
SwordHand said: he did it without UBW either to damn GARGrey-Zone said: No, rather it was the "atmosphere" of the route. The fight versus Berserker in UBW was the first thing that clearly was different from the Fate route, so it was quite memorable and it was the first time Archer showed his real GARness. Is the bolded part by itself not enough of a reason to almost forget the existence of the Fate route on the spot? Implying that killing berserker 6 times solo wasn't GAR. |
fairypriest said: SwordHand said: he did it without UBW either to damn GARImplying that killing berserker 6 times solo wasn't GAR. Meh. That was "interesting" and a "wow" moment... but it was off-screen. OFF-SCREEN! That's like saying what Lancer did in Fate is as awesome as what he did in UBW. It's nice and so on, and really damn cool, that he faught 24 hours against Gil (or am I mistaken?), but it's still not on the same level as Lancers "SURPRISE MOTHER-F***ER!" in UBW. |
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fairypriest said: SwordHand said: he did it without UBW either to damn GARImplying that killing berserker 6 times solo wasn't GAR. Legit question: how do we know he did it without UBW? |
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Zadion said: fairypriest said: he did it without UBW either to damn GAR Legit question: how do we know he did it without UBW? Legit Answer:  |
CookingPriest said: My mistake arguing with saberfags *shrug* My mistake for arguing with someone who worships a faker Zadion, that sig is killing me....In both ways =3 But the words are making me shed tears, evil >n< |
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WrongPriest said: Why is that man so perfect?Zadion said: Legit question: how do we know he did it without UBW? Legit Answer: |
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GangstaPriest said: WrongPriest said: Why is that man so perfect?Legit Answer: Because he is best servant/man? |
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mira-lala said: B-but I thought he was best maid!GangstaPriest said: Why is that man so perfect? Because he is best servant/man? |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
GangstaPriest said: mira-lala said: B-but I thought he was best maid!Because he is best servant/man? Archer-chan is b-b-b-best m-m-maid t-too *u* [spoiler]  |
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| ^ I love you Lala, but you need to start trimming your quotes XD Maidu Fighto |
WrongPriest said: ^ I love you Lala, but you need to start trimming your quotes XD Maidu Fighto Noh, Lala-chan's life mission is to create the longest quote chain evah! Dat pic tho *w* |
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SwordHand said: I don't think you want to put their intentions on a scale. Most of it their interactions are unrelated. Sakura saw Shirou as her potential savior and fell in love with him for it. Rin saw what happened to Shirou in the future, and didn't want to see him turn into a martyr. Saber and Shirou are likeminded, and arguably share a common goal, despite the fact that they both know that the goal is unachievable. All three of them end up crushing on him in the end. This is why I don't like comparing the heroines too much; people like each one for different reasons, not on one scale. That is exactly why I love all 3 heroines, to me none of them are dull or boring. They each got something interesting going on with them. |
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CookingPriest said: Kamipriest said: That is exactly why I love all 3 heroines, to me none of them are dull or boring. They each got something interesting going on with them. Well if you find a robot to be interesting and not dull then sure. Only thing good about her is her backstory. *insert rant about senpai machines and wormsluts, twist and good psychology stuff too* Yeah, I definitely see this happening. Although I am too lazy to put more details to make it look more genuine. |
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Zadion said: Because Ilya didnt give a fuck about it.If a nameless hero had used a RM on top of killing Berserker 6 times she would have lost it.fairypriest said: he did it without UBW either to damn GAR Legit question: how do we know he did it without UBW? |
| Doesn't seem like Archer can kill Berserker 6 times without using UBW while being within the castle. He most likely did use it though 6 times against herc is still awesome. |
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| I thought it was confirmed somewhere he didn't use UBW? |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: LitzSabr said: Doesn't seem like Archer can kill Berserker 6 times without using UBW while being within the castle. He most likely did use it though 6 times against herc is still awesome. Still underestimating Archer are we? He didn't, it's a fact in Fate Route. If one of his broken phantasms can force Berserker to block from his "Don't give a fuck" mode then just think what he can do with multiple of those? Right... Like Six times with UBW is underestimating him. Man the fanboys.. Berserker is vastly superior to Archer in combat, he can probably kill him once before berserker catches up to him considering the location and difference in stats. |
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