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Oct 16, 2014 5:06 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Well Raw is out. So Corazon and Law talk, More of Joker's Past is revealed, and is Law Blackmailing Corazon!? well he kidnapped him after talk it seems. Wait He is he Marine!!!? And Vergo has shown up again.

Wait is Cora-san trying to heal Law up, but shitty doctors like those they met cannot heal anyone...how the hell they even got the License?

Looks like Corazon will die soon. Joker is calling....(DOOM)

*EDIT* Nagi-Nagi no Mi....(Onion-Onion Fruit!? Lol, most likely not) Calm, Silence fruit. that is also kind of interesting Paramecia. Lol, looks like his clumsiness was real and not an act. even if he tried look cool.

Wait...so Corazon has since beginning been against his Brother...Well looks like Doffy is Full-blooded Tenryuubito...inside and Outside....sometimes Rotten environment, like Marinejois, count more that Kind-hearten Mother and Father.

"D" IS Gods Natural Sworn-Enemies....WHAT THE HELL IS WILL OF D!!?!?!?! and lol, looks like Law started early to manipulated both Buffalo and Baby 5! XD So Corazon/Rosinante is actually marine Commander!? and his own brother does not even know about it, even if he has Vergo in Ranks.

GOD DAMN THE GOVERNMENT!!!! They made that kind Bullshit Lie and Law is suffering, because they wanted Riches!!!! Thank God for that puch Corazon/Rosinante. That Bullshit Doctor Pissed me off. Chopepr is 100x Real doctor than those Bastards ever will be.

....Corazon...You really are good guy....guy like you shouldn't be in Donflamingo's crew.
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Oct 16, 2014 5:31 AM
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Great chapter! loved it!
I think cora and law will find the ope-ope in their journey!
I wonder what's the meaning of the "corazon" title? Could it only be the doflamingo second man?
Epic lol at cora-san face!
"God's natural enemy"?! Sounds cool!
Oct 16, 2014 5:32 AM
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D are gods natural enemy??
corazon real name is rosinante........
i want more of the secret of the D but knowing oda i have to wait for at least 5 years to get another detail of the D........:(
*people die when they are killed* - emiya shirou.......
Oct 16, 2014 5:33 AM
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Btw ... I may not be the only one but I never really realized that Corazon / Pica / Trebol and Diamante were not their real names ... They are spanish names for Heart / Spade / Club and Diamond. Card game ~

So Vergo was the first to sit on the "Heart seat" then he left for the marines and the young brother was promoted, and then the brother was killed and Law could have been the third one to stand for the Heart.

Interesting chapter btw. This flashback is really nice.
Oct 16, 2014 5:41 AM
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Corazon my new favorite One Piece character.
Oct 16, 2014 5:48 AM
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Damn so Corazon was a marine spy.
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Oct 16, 2014 5:49 AM
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wow Corazon can speak and his ability is also kinda cool I starting too love him even more no wander law cares for him he acts like a father after all
Oct 16, 2014 5:55 AM
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ODAAAAAAA!!!!!! This guy is on a F***N ROLL!!! Friggin amazing :D

I was honestly surprised that Corazon doesn't have the OpeOpe. He's got a sound controlling fruit :O

And lol'd so much at him saying it was all an act while burning his shoulder XD Law's tsukkomi had me lol so hard XD

Doffy being born evil was :O It's been such a long time since I've seen someone born evil. AWESOME!! Doffy for best villain in OP for sure now :3

Vergo was the last Corazon :O

HOLY SHIT DAT TWIST!!!! Rosinante was working under Sengoku personally O_O

I'm finally seeing how Corazon became this important to Law. Damn! That's some shit there!! Going around all those hospitals and beating up every doctors that acts like an ass XD I wonder who'll heal him >.<!!! And what's Doffy gonna say?!?!?!
Oct 16, 2014 5:56 AM
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The Soundless but clumsy man .. Corazon of the Donquixote family !!
Born as a fearless monster .. !! Donflamingo with sinister origin !!
The D's of huge storms .. God's natural enemies !!
A debt paid for a big revelation !! so Rosinante is his true name .. also affiliated with the marines .. leaving for a cure !! .. he's sympathetic .
Pretty Good Chapter !!!
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Oct 16, 2014 5:58 AM

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Maerow said:
"D. are Gods natural enemy"

God Usopp vs Monkey D. Luffy incoming.


LOL XD
Oct 16, 2014 6:00 AM

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Its quite funny that Vergo was Doflamingo's spy to the marines while his brother is a marine spy.
Oct 16, 2014 6:02 AM

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The tenryubito declare their kind as 'gods' after all. I want to know the historical background regarding that. I expect a great flashback about the D Clan.
Oct 16, 2014 6:06 AM

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"D" are devils?

Dat marine Rocinante foreshadowing!

Oct 16, 2014 6:10 AM

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Jarjaxle said:
Looks like Corazon will die soon. Joker is calling....(DOOM)

;.; I wish he survives somehow... but thats going to happen is it?

Great chapter :D
Oct 16, 2014 6:19 AM

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At first i tought his DF was the same as Bartolomeo
Oct 16, 2014 6:28 AM
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Well what a great chapter. Some interesting info, so Sound Fruit, wasn't expecting that. And for a moment I wanted to smack Law for being a tattle tail, but in the end he didn't rat him out.

So Vergo was the first corazon, and Law is being feared because of is illness, real good timing with the real world with ebola. Law has the one piece version of ebola.

Can't wait to see how Law gets cured.
Oct 16, 2014 6:32 AM

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Great chapter. Corazon's face in the ending when Law called him Cora-san, priceless xD
Oct 16, 2014 6:37 AM

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Corazon's power seems interesting. Both him and Law go out to go find a cure. That face Corazon made at the end was funny.
Oct 16, 2014 6:38 AM
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lol so much for that theory of mine I put in the other thread since Rocinante had a different devil fruit xD.

Its starting to make more sense now why Doflamingo killed his brother as for him his actions can be considered as a "betrayal" to him.

Interesting to know more about the meaning of D. It looks like these D people might be the prime reason why the void century is kept quiet as they have something to do with it.

Vergo finally makes his appearance, I wonder if Monet and Sugar will appear at some point as well and if there's a specific reason as to why these two haven't appeared yet. Or if its just them not joining the crew yet and that's all there is to it.
Oct 16, 2014 6:43 AM
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another one carrying on the will of "D" who i would've never expected law to carry it! the mystery of "D" is reveal at last and it has a good ringing on it!
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Adventure to be hated around the whole world doctor...
The secret of the beloved alphabet "D"...
The Twist of Marine Spy vs Donquixote Spy...
I wonder how long this flashback is going to be?
Oct 16, 2014 7:05 AM

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Maerow said:
"D. are Gods natural enemy"

God Usopp vs Monkey D. Luffy incoming.


That happened already, in Water Seven xD
Foreshadowing~
Oct 16, 2014 7:05 AM
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Very good chapter indeed. The way I see it is sometime later Vergo will probably rat out Corazon.
Oct 16, 2014 7:15 AM
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Looks like Corazon doesn't hate all children, since he brought Law on a quest to be refused by tons of hospitals in the world. The guy is the mole to the Donquixote family, and his soundproof fruit just makes his job much more effective. Good cliffhanger, now Dofla is about to go nuts again.
Once this awesome flashback ends, I'd like to see how the other battles are going.
Oct 16, 2014 7:29 AM

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blooddrunk said:
Maerow said:
"D. are Gods natural enemy"

God Usopp vs Monkey D. Luffy incoming.


That happened already, in Water Seven xD
Foreshadowing~


Lord Buggy and God Enel too.
Oct 16, 2014 7:33 AM

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Rosinante doesn't hate children at all. Didn't you understand what Sengoku said? He was cruel with children to make them leave and not become bad people.

Now i really wonder if they will meet Dr Kureha. It would be so nice to see her again. I can really picture her telling Law that there is no human way to cure his disease ... but a long time ago she read a book about some fruit that may cure him ...
Oct 16, 2014 8:02 AM

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hmm not as good as the last two chapters, cause it was a kinda repetitive towards the end, but still pretty damn good.
also it was nice to learn more about Corazon.

over all 4/5
Oct 16, 2014 8:08 AM

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When he punched the first doctor, I felt the same way when Luffy punched the Celestial Dragon and he continued every time. Corazon is such an amazing person.

This chapter was especially funny;
Corazon's "it's all an act"
Law breaking the Blood rule again, using ice cream as bribe again and finally ask Baby 5 for money. (can't refuse because 'he need her').
His face when Law call him 'Cora- san'

So people holding a 'D' in their name are the natural enemy of the Celestial Dragons. Maybe, Corazon depend on Law in order to kill Doffy since he is the natural enemy of Celestial Dragons.

Great chapter, I still want to see what happen later and how Doffy discover the truth about his brother which will most likely to be Vergo's fault.
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Oct 16, 2014 8:10 AM

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D are gods natural enemy??
i want more of the secret of the D but knowing oda i have to wait for at least 5 years to get another detail of the D........:(


Seeing how people from D-Clan are natural enemies of God and if the term "God" refers to the Celestial Dragons, whom so far have shown absolutely no physical combat abilities whatsoever, I won't be surprised if people with D in their names are the only individuals able to have more than one devil fruit abilities.
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Oct 16, 2014 8:17 AM

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Wow, such an amazing chapter. I love Cora-san already. His face was hilarious when Law called him Cora-san hahaha

Someone said they wondered if Cora-san and Law are going to meet up with Dr. Kureha - dude, that'd be awesome! We haven't seen her in so long, so maybe she'll come up again soon? She is a great doctor, and she doesn't seem like someone who's prejudice. Maybe we'll see her in a younger form baha

So, Cora-san is with the marines, Vergo is already a spy, and... Doffy is sure to find out about this from Vergo, I think. This is getting crazy.

When Cora-san cried for Law... too many feels. Such a good chapter.

Can't wait for next week!
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So is Doflamingo basically the Damien Thorn of One Piece? If it wasn't evident enough already, his own brother admits he is evil incarnate.
Oct 16, 2014 8:22 AM

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the fact that old men from a village talk about the D storm made me think if people are talking about a REAL storm and not a metaphore (giving also the fact that in japanese they use the exact word for storm), because we think that dragon can manipulate storm as seen in Loguetown and we also know that in the battle "roger vs shiki", half of shiki's fleet sunk because of a storm!
Oct 16, 2014 8:24 AM

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The D(eparted).
Oct 16, 2014 8:29 AM

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Another idea about Kureha.

Could it be that someone used the Ope Ope on her to make her immortal at some point (but she was already old?).

And that would explain why she's's always telling people "you want to know the secret of my youth do you?"

If so my respect for Oda would skyrocket I think ...
Oct 16, 2014 8:36 AM

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Another idea about Kureha.

Could it be that someone used the Ope Ope on her to make her immortal at some point (but she was already old?).

And that would explain why she's's always telling people "you want to know the secret of my youth do you?"

If so my respect for Oda would skyrocket I think ...

i seriously doubt it.

she is just some crazy doctor that found a way to prolong her life.

nuff said
Oct 16, 2014 9:23 AM

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This flashback won't end until we see a confrontation between Law and Vergo, because it was clear from the Punk Hazard arc that they knew each other, but they haven't met as of yet in the flashback. I think Vergo defeats Law and Doffy kills Corazon in a 2v2 fight.
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Oct 16, 2014 10:29 AM

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Corazon my new favorite One Piece character.
+1. He's so awesome. I just teared up at him crying for Law. But this puts the whole "Corazon had the ope ope no mi and gave it to Law" theory down the drain since he doesn't have it. Nice try though fandom

Lol this face btw:
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Welp, looks like the second page cleared up the theories about Corazon having the Ope Ope no Mi and Corazon possibly being Ivankov.

My theory about Corazon not being Doflamingo's real brother due to the whole "3rd Corazon" mystery also got wiped clean. Never would've thought about Vergo being the 1st but...
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Btw ... I may not be the only one but I never really realized that Corazon / Pica / Trebol and Diamante were not their real names ... They are spanish names for Heart / Spade / Club and Diamond. Card game ~

So Vergo was the first to sit on the "Heart seat" then he left for the marines and the young brother was promoted, and then the brother was killed and Law could have been the third one to stand for the Heart.
I'm in the same boat. Never realized until now that they all have code names, even after Buffalo and Baby 5 revealed that they have code names.

Also, did Law really just start Baby 5's obsession with being needed? -.-


blooddrunk said:
Maerow said:
"D. are Gods natural enemy"

God Usopp vs Monkey D. Luffy incoming.

That happened already, in Water Seven xD
Foreshadowing~
Lol, was thinking this as well.
Oct 16, 2014 11:42 AM

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I love how Doflamingo and Corazon are named after the characters in Cervante's novel "Don Quijote".

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The D(eparted).


YES! I just recently watched that movie, and just... yes... 100% yes.... thank you, sir.

That aside, I can now see how Law and Rocinante's relationship came to be, and why Rocinante's inevitable death would cause Law to eventually manipulate the Straw Hat's into enacting revenge on Doflamingo.
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That "god's natural enemy" thing makes sense: with gods are probably intended celestial dragons as offsprings of those kingdom's Kings that allied and created the world government. The "D family" are those people that descend from the ancient kingdom destroied by the ally in the void century during the huge ancent war, so they are ancient enemies, the only real enemies left to the "Gods".
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Corazon was a marine spy while Vergo is a Doffy spy, hilarious.

Corazon is a very character, sucks that he's going to die.

Wonder how Law gets healed, does he get his fruit power and heal himself?
Eh
Oct 16, 2014 12:27 PM

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Rosinante's character development in this chapter alone is beyond amazing.

Oda Sensei. *salutes*

I really do wonder what will happen next..
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Omg, Cora is already one of my fave characters, why does something like this always have to happen ;A; *feels incoming*
I really love the interactions between the two and looking forward to finding about more about D :D
Oct 16, 2014 12:33 PM

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Would be interesting if Dr. Hiluluk was the one who healed Law.
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guess that explains a lot. sick chapter, sick explanations, so much revelations

Corazon is a sick character indeed. Why are always the best handled characters the ones that are dead xd
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Oct 16, 2014 12:37 PM

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Would be interesting if Dr. Hiluluk was the one who healed Law.


Im guessing Doffy called because they managed to obtain the ope ope no mi. I think Law will operate on himself and cure himself, and in the meantime while they'll be back with the family, Vergo or someone will somehow find out about Corazon (Rocinante) and Doffy will kill him
This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream.

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Gods Natural Enemies!?
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short_review said:
Btw ... I may not be the only one but I never really realized that Corazon / Pica / Trebol and Diamante were not their real names ... They are spanish names for Heart / Spade / Club and Diamond. Card game ~


To quote Lemmy, "and don't forget the Joker."

It is also a nice tie-in with the "gambling Admiral" Fujitora and his decision to go "all-in" on Strawhat. That's classic Oda, operating on multiple levels.

It was certainly hinted at before this chapter confirmed, that the "clan of D" are the opponents of the Tenryuubitches, and that nobody knows much about them because the history has been erased - the Void Century.
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Im guessing Doffy called because they managed to obtain the ope ope no mi. I think Law will operate on himself and cure himself, and in the meantime while they'll be back with the family, Vergo or someone will somehow find out about Corazon (Rocinante) and Doffy will kill him


Didn't Doffman say something about the ope-ope should have been his, as it's one of the pinnacle power fruits and would let him take over the world with the Tenryuubitches "secret treasure"? I don't think it's the wildest guess to think that after he gets it, Rossy steals the fruit and gives it to Waterboy in order to let him cure him sickness. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
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D is God's Natural Enemy? Interesting...
(I mean after all, they are the one's that will (D)efy the god's)
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