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Oct 6, 2014 9:50 AM
#1001
It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion |
Oct 6, 2014 9:50 AM
#1002
CorePriest said: Though I suppose you could say he stocked up on Mana when he was Casters Servent but still, pretty big leap. NOt that big, considering this caster is magical powerhouse. I beckon mana rate is akin to being connected to twenty Rins or something. |
Oct 6, 2014 9:51 AM
#1003
Oct 6, 2014 9:54 AM
#1004
suikaMUSIC said: The fact of the matter is that ufotable objectively DOES NOT have bad art, but since art is all somewhat subjective, it may seem so from your "superior" point of view--one which you have offered no explanation whatsoever other than stating them. The character designs were adapted from the original source material (the visual novel you clearly haven't even breathed upon) which was released in 2004 so they may seem a bit outdated--but hell a shit ton of people still enjoy them. Animation itself as a medium incorporates many aspects such as angles, backgrounds, even still frames, etc, none of which you have bothered to explain to a satisfactory extent. Either way, I'm going to go with CookingPriest and avoid derailing this thread even further, since you seem to have not even paid the slightest amount of attention to the actual episode or even the fate series as a whole since you insist on watching f/0 first. If you wish to continue this arbitrary and pointless rambling then go find another opponent who can deal with your unsupported tripe. Yeah better drop it. It seems like your emotional attachment to this anime wont allow you to think about it on a logical basis anyway, especially since i obviously crossed some line where you now have to personnally insult my position instead of attacking my arguments^^ Anyway.. have a nice day :) |
Oct 6, 2014 10:00 AM
#1005
CookingPriest said: CorePriest said: Though I suppose you could say he stocked up on Mana when he was Casters Servent but still, pretty big leap. NOt that big, considering this caster is magical powerhouse. I beckon mana rate is akin to being connected to twenty Rins or something. Um, I didn't say that, you quoted the wrong person, lol. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:06 AM
#1006
Lockensocke said: nothing to bother with Indeed have a nice day. It's nice to see that there are some people out there who won't even give a series the modicum of a chance without letting their half-assed opinions cloud their rationality. Please don't contaminate other animes with your disrespect to not only the fans who enjoy them but also the people who've worked so hard to bring these adaptations into reality. Also there is no "logical basis" when you have no support to any of your arguments about quote-on-quote bad animation. If you insist on throwing out that term, then please establish the foundation first, hypocrite. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:10 AM
#1007
AidanAK47 said: mirakura said: Well, there's also a sword that kills 9times. And the OP shield :3 ;D Ah I forgot about that one. Oh Nasu... suikaMUSIC said: AidanAK47 said: I wouldn't say that. My memory UBW may not be crystal clear but there was this moment at the very end that was a serious asspull which no amount of explaination can satisfactory explain. But frankly this thread has too many spoilers as it is so I will refrain from saying it. Was it Archer's miraculous survival to appear at the end of the last fight? Bingo. No matter how you explain that one afterwards it still is a pretty cheap asspull if the explanation do not matters, so how you can considerate something not logical in the first place ? oh i forgot, you have special critical thinking no one has! |
Oct 6, 2014 10:11 AM
#1008
CookingPriest said: They are definitely far more normal than Ilya's classmates.FakePriest said: rladls717 said: Rin classmates are no different from Iliya's classmates it seems. Issei's oppositions against Rin, just like Luvia it will never bore me. Very different. Issei doesn't like her methods but he understands why she does what she does. Actually the classmates kind of are similar, intentionally, if we are to ignore Issei comparison. And yeah, holy fuck is this hyping me up for second half of 2wei, as weird as it sounds. Lockensocke said: hipster stuff So we shouldnt call AMAZING ANIMATION amazing because it isnt as amazing as Hollywood animated movies or the once-in-a-while-Ghibli movies, even if it is FAR more amazing from any other series currently airing. Professionals with too much free time everywhere. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:18 AM
#1009
ZangetsuPriest said: if the explanation do not matters, so how you can considerate something not logical in the first place ? oh i forgot, you have special critical thinking no one has! Sorry priest, but could you clarify whom you are addressing? |
Oct 6, 2014 10:18 AM
#1010
CookingPriest said: Stuff That's why I said debatble, AFAIK Isn't she not an Aristoteles? And furthermore, didn't the Six Sisters kill Type Pluto? And Ado Edem kills two Types. I imagine Ea could still do something to them. I could argue Shiki (Ryougi) has the potential to kill them but then she lacks the physical capability needed. On a side note Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion maybe we should take that elsewhere? |
Oct 6, 2014 10:21 AM
#1011
CookingPriest said: CorePriest said: Though I suppose you could say he stocked up on Mana when he was Casters Servent but still, pretty big leap. NOt that big, considering this caster is magical powerhouse. I beckon mana rate is akin to being connected to twenty Rins or something. Pretty much this. I don't know where in the source materials is mentioned as I found data on Type-Moon wiki (will try to find the source), but Caster has so large amount of prana that she would exist for two days without a master as well... without Independent Action. And Archer directly received her prana, so it doesn't surprise he'd be able to stockpile enough to perform better than what Independent Action would usually allow. Ok, enough discussing end story content from me here - feel free to pull me elsewhere if you want to continue ^^ |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:22 AM
#1012
InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: Stuff That's why I said debatble, AFAIK Isn't she not an Aristoteles? And furthermore, didn't the Six Sisters kill Type Pluto? And Ado Edem kills two Types. I imagine Ea could still do something to them. I could argue Shiki (Ryougi) has the potential to kill them but then she lacks the physical capability needed. On a side note Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion maybe we should take that elsewhere? MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death". |
Oct 6, 2014 10:22 AM
#1013
FakePriest said: So we shouldnt call AMAZING ANIMATION amazing because it isnt as amazing as Hollywood animated movies or the once-in-a-while-Ghibli movies, even if it is FAR more amazing from any other series currently airing. Professionals with too much free time everywhere. If there are some animation FAR better than this one.. then yes.. you shouldnt call it amazing, obviously.. And no ufotable doesnt create something far better than anything else.. A bit over avarage i would say. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:24 AM
#1014
FakePriest said: InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: Stuff That's why I said debatble, AFAIK Isn't she not an Aristoteles? And furthermore, didn't the Six Sisters kill Type Pluto? And Ado Edem kills two Types. I imagine Ea could still do something to them. I could argue Shiki (Ryougi) has the potential to kill them but then she lacks the physical capability needed. On a side note Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion maybe we should take that elsewhere? MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death". Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:24 AM
#1015
Lockensocke said: more hipster stuff Yeah... Ufotable has clearly a bit over average animation. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:27 AM
#1016
FakePriest said: Lockensocke said: more hipster stuff Yeah... Ufotable has clearly a bit over average animation. He's somehow believes that those were all still frames moving from one shot to another with flashy effects to make it look like animation. No idea how, I guess we watched two different things. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:29 AM
#1017
Lockensocke said: If there are some animation FAR better than this one.. then yes.. you shouldnt call it amazing, obviously.. And no ufotable doesnt create something far better than anything else.. A bit over avarage i would say. Weren't you going to leave this thread, or does your unacknowledged viewpoint still have some sparks left before it finally gets snuffed out? I don't understand how fundamentally you simply can't appreciate the animation quality and the effort put into this production just because it doesn't coincide with your favorites of "good quality" animation. I would recognize an anime with good animation regardless of the series it's from or the fanbase it possesses. Or is it simply because it looks too "new" and contrasts with your view that good animation has to be traditionally rooted without CGI or special effects (since you apparently keep bringing up Ghibli and American animation). |
Oct 6, 2014 10:30 AM
#1018
InsertPriestHere said: Nope.It is the same for her as well.FakePriest said: InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: Stuff That's why I said debatble, AFAIK Isn't she not an Aristoteles? And furthermore, didn't the Six Sisters kill Type Pluto? And Ado Edem kills two Types. I imagine Ea could still do something to them. I could argue Shiki (Ryougi) has the potential to kill them but then she lacks the physical capability needed. On a side note Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion maybe we should take that elsewhere? MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death". Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:38 AM
#1019
InsertPriestHere said: FakePriest said: InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: Stuff That's why I said debatble, AFAIK Isn't she not an Aristoteles? And furthermore, didn't the Six Sisters kill Type Pluto? And Ado Edem kills two Types. I imagine Ea could still do something to them. I could argue Shiki (Ryougi) has the potential to kill them but then she lacks the physical capability needed. On a side note Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion maybe we should take that elsewhere? MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death". Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope. No. BOth SHIKI have same understanding of what Death is. Type concept of death is so foreign human brain could not portray it for them. As for other questions: - Arcueid is the "successor" of Crimson Moon, AND the Archetype Earth. She is an aristoteles, just hte one who is not at her full potential. Either her or Altrouge will become THE Type Moon eventually. - Six Sisters also wielded powers of True Magic each. You could say they were pinnacle of humanity as well. And they died doing that. And Pluto most likely will recover still, eventually. - Ado Edem is using even more haxx version of EA. Gil's EA would be useless without the strength that rivals nuclear warheads, that Ado Edem has. We are talking about beings who can shatter continents with their fists(figuratively speaking). Gil has a thing that can hurt them, but not power needed to do that. If EA and Slash Emperor would clash, Slash Emperor would be superior in density of power, while EA would be superior at range of attack, if both are at the same size at the moment. - |
Oct 6, 2014 10:54 AM
#1020
suikaMUSIC said: Weren't you going to leave this thread, or does your unacknowledged viewpoint still have some sparks left before it finally gets snuffed out? I don't understand how fundamentally you simply can't appreciate the animation quality and the effort put into this production just because it doesn't coincide with your favorites of "good quality" animation. I would recognize an anime with good animation regardless of the series it's from or the fanbase it possesses. Or is it simply because it looks too "new" and contrasts with your view that good animation has to be traditionally rooted without CGI or special effects (since you apparently keep bringing up Ghibli and American animation). So thats how you can stay in your tiny dreamworld where fate zero was well animated.. you just missinterpretate what other people say and you are just too close minded to search around yourself. Explain to me when I have said i will drop this thread.. If you are able to read ( which i more an more doubt) you would notice that i said I drop disucssing with YOU. Answereing some fanboy who seeks for some information (which he ofc not accepts) I am allways willing to do. And btw.. didnt you say you would drop talking to me? I mean this is already your second reply after saying you drop it. Can it be you got some attention problem you have to compensate? |
Oct 6, 2014 11:00 AM
#1021
Plz stop. Your nonsense is quite irritating. First of all,you speak as if ufotable and every GRAND studio that animates a movie every year and a half(hopefully)would deliver the same animation.No they wont and it is stupid to compare them. Secondly, ufotable's anime have a LOT BETTER animation than anime the vast majority of anime of each year the realise something. If that isnt amazing then nothing is. Stop trying to "talk sense" to "ignorant" anime fans that see something for what it is because you dont like it compared to your favourite animation style. |
Oct 6, 2014 11:08 AM
#1022
FakePriest said: Plz stop. Your nonsense is quite irritating. Are you talking to me? |
Oct 6, 2014 11:10 AM
#1023
Lockensocke said: I see that your comprehension ability is quite lacking unless if you skipped everything else I typed..FakePriest said: Plz stop. Your nonsense is quite irritating. Are you talking to me? |
Oct 6, 2014 11:16 AM
#1024
CookingPriest said: InsertPriestHere said: FakePriest said: InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: Stuff That's why I said debatble, AFAIK Isn't she not an Aristoteles? And furthermore, didn't the Six Sisters kill Type Pluto? And Ado Edem kills two Types. I imagine Ea could still do something to them. I could argue Shiki (Ryougi) has the potential to kill them but then she lacks the physical capability needed. On a side note Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion maybe we should take that elsewhere? MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death". Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope. No. BOth SHIKI have same understanding of what Death is. Type concept of death is so foreign human brain could not portray it for them. As for other questions: - Arcueid is the "successor" of Crimson Moon, AND the Archetype Earth. She is an aristoteles, just hte one who is not at her full potential. Either her or Altrouge will become THE Type Moon eventually. - Six Sisters also wielded powers of True Magic each. You could say they were pinnacle of humanity as well. And they died doing that. And Pluto most likely will recover still, eventually. - Ado Edem is using even more haxx version of EA. Gil's EA would be useless without the strength that rivals nuclear warheads, that Ado Edem has. We are talking about beings who can shatter continents with their fists(figuratively speaking). Gil has a thing that can hurt them, but not power needed to do that. If EA and Slash Emperor would clash, Slash Emperor would be superior in density of power, while EA would be superior at range of attack, if both are at the same size at the moment. - I see, what about the third personality then? Wait, the Aristoteles can revive?? So doesn't that technically make him....stronger than them? |
Oct 6, 2014 11:28 AM
#1025
InsertPriestHere said: I see, what about the third personality then? Wait, the Aristoteles can revive?? So doesn't that technically make him....stronger than them? Aristoteles will revive if they die "in human way". Case in point Venus and Crimson Moon. To eradicate them completely you would need to kill them in a way that fits their concept of death. No, What I mean is that Slash Emperor's hit is like a cut with a knife for Type, while EE would be like throwing peas at a Type. |
Oct 6, 2014 1:00 PM
#1027
Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion Yeah, what the fuck people? |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Oct 6, 2014 1:07 PM
#1028
insan3priest said: Someone said "asspull."Praland said: It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion Yeah, what the fuck people? Then powerlevels. Then you know what sort of things happen afterwards. It could have been worse though, at least that was still about UBW... |
Oct 6, 2014 1:15 PM
#1029
6/5; had to get a fkn bucket for the blood coming out of my nose |
Oct 6, 2014 1:19 PM
#1030
So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show... |
Oct 6, 2014 1:22 PM
#1031
Dobato said: So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show... Ikr So many freakin priests. |
Xway101 ~By me~ |
Oct 6, 2014 1:25 PM
#1032
Xway101 said: Dobato said: So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show... Ikr So many freakin priests. They're celebrating! LEAVE.THEM.BE!! |
The sun is a deadly laser |
Oct 6, 2014 1:30 PM
#1033
What ufotable do with their blend of cg effects and key animation is something very rare, they have their own signature, and now they're showing their powerlevel with sakuga. it's reminds me of people complaining about Yuasa style. |
JaogetsuOct 6, 2014 6:59 PM
Oct 6, 2014 2:20 PM
#1034
I enjoyed this, even though I thought I wouldn't, might be because of my low expectations. I started liking once Archer appeared, I always loved his character design, and him being voiced by Swuabe is so freaking awesome, I got so excited when I heard his voice. Too bad I already spoiled myself a while ago, on Archer's true identity. This was decent. 4/5. Certainly better than F/Z first episode. |
tsudecimoOct 6, 2014 2:24 PM
Oct 6, 2014 2:50 PM
#1035
Rin/10 can't wait for the rest |
Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
Oct 6, 2014 3:41 PM
#1036
It was good for first episode, they managed to do pretty well, showed key moments of prologue and I am officially hyped now. I liked the fact that they showed everything needed but the tempo was still there. I also liked some parts of music and how there were some signs of future themes even in this episode. I liked that they included Himuro-Makidera-Kaede trio and their relationship with Tohsaka (taken from FHA). I didn't like some voices but I guess that's something I'll get use to. Tohsaka design has also its flaws.. typical Ufotable character. Kaede was too tall for my taste. But overall, this was great introduction. Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1282895#8dZ4eV3Ki0zyedR7.99 |
Oct 6, 2014 3:56 PM
#1037
mirakura said: Xway101 said: Dobato said: So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show... Ikr So many freakin priests. They're rejoicing! LEAVE.THEM.BE!! Fixed. |
Oct 6, 2014 5:43 PM
#1038
Oct 6, 2014 9:31 PM
#1039
Can't wait for this scene. Or will we get it? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Oct 6, 2014 10:46 PM
#1040
OMFG that was fucking awesome!! I was more excited for psycho pass 2 but after this prologue I can tell this will be anime of the year. |
Oct 6, 2014 11:17 PM
#1042
Zapredon said: Can't wait for this scene. Or will we get it? Not by shirou, but from Rin. Though I don't think it's something that big to make a fuss about. Still that's enjoyable u_u Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
sarroushOct 7, 2014 8:11 AM
Oct 6, 2014 11:55 PM
#1043
Not_A_Priest said: No, that's Fate route only. No, Rin says it aswell in UBW apparently |
The sun is a deadly laser |
Oct 7, 2014 1:09 AM
#1044
Oct 7, 2014 1:27 AM
#1045
Didn't disappoint. Can't wait for the series. |
I'm too old for this sh**t. |
Oct 7, 2014 1:35 AM
#1046
schmoopsie said: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL Rin is love. Rin is life. |
Oct 7, 2014 1:46 AM
#1047
antonn said: schmoopsie said: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL Rin is love. Rin is life. YOU ASSHOLE |
Oct 7, 2014 2:00 AM
#1048
schmoopsie said: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL If you want to spoil whole UBW here you go TRACE ON |
Oct 7, 2014 3:31 AM
#1049
schmoopsie said: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL I wouldn't recommend reading it. Seriously, knowing that might spoil a lot Unless you don't actually read into it/figure it out, which is possible But it's a big hint for a major twist Well, you asked, here you go; Trace, On. |
Oct 7, 2014 5:11 AM
#1050
Nice start to the series. Got me excited for more. I wasn't entirely sure that I would want to watch this, but now there's no doubt. |
There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
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