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Oct 6, 2014 9:50 AM

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It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion
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CorePriest said:


Oct 6, 2014 9:51 AM

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CorePriest said:
Once, not twice. Though I agree with the rest. Unless you're basing this off the movie, because this isn't the case in the VN.


Ah, I think that confused me. Thank for the correction.

"I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila."

Oct 6, 2014 9:54 AM

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suikaMUSIC said:


The fact of the matter is that ufotable objectively DOES NOT have bad art, but since art is all somewhat subjective, it may seem so from your "superior" point of view--one which you have offered no explanation whatsoever other than stating them. The character designs were adapted from the original source material (the visual novel you clearly haven't even breathed upon) which was released in 2004 so they may seem a bit outdated--but hell a shit ton of people still enjoy them. Animation itself as a medium incorporates many aspects such as angles, backgrounds, even still frames, etc, none of which you have bothered to explain to a satisfactory extent.

Either way, I'm going to go with CookingPriest and avoid derailing this thread even further, since you seem to have not even paid the slightest amount of attention to the actual episode or even the fate series as a whole since you insist on watching f/0 first. If you wish to continue this arbitrary and pointless rambling then go find another opponent who can deal with your unsupported tripe.


Yeah better drop it. It seems like your emotional attachment to this anime wont allow you to think about it on a logical basis anyway, especially since i obviously crossed some line where you now have to personnally insult my position instead of attacking my arguments^^
Anyway.. have a nice day :)
Oct 6, 2014 10:00 AM

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CookingPriest said:
CorePriest said:




Um, I didn't say that, you quoted the wrong person, lol.
Oct 6, 2014 10:06 AM

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Lockensocke said:
nothing to bother with


Indeed have a nice day. It's nice to see that there are some people out there who won't even give a series the modicum of a chance without letting their half-assed opinions cloud their rationality. Please don't contaminate other animes with your disrespect to not only the fans who enjoy them but also the people who've worked so hard to bring these adaptations into reality. Also there is no "logical basis" when you have no support to any of your arguments about quote-on-quote bad animation. If you insist on throwing out that term, then please establish the foundation first, hypocrite.
Oct 6, 2014 10:10 AM

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AidanAK47 said:
mirakura said:

Well, there's also


;D


Ah I forgot about that one. Oh Nasu...

suikaMUSIC said:




Bingo. No matter how you explain that one afterwards it still is a pretty cheap asspull



if the explanation do not matters, so how you can considerate something not logical in the first place ?

oh i forgot, you have special critical thinking no one has!
Oct 6, 2014 10:11 AM

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Very different.

Issei doesn't like her methods but he understands why she does what she does.


Actually the classmates kind of are similar, intentionally, if we are to ignore Issei comparison.

And yeah, holy fuck is this hyping me up for second half of 2wei, as weird as it sounds.
They are definitely far more normal than Ilya's classmates.
Lockensocke said:
hipster stuff

So we shouldnt call AMAZING ANIMATION amazing because it isnt as amazing as Hollywood animated movies or the once-in-a-while-Ghibli movies, even if it is FAR more amazing from any other series currently airing.

Professionals with too much free time everywhere.
Oct 6, 2014 10:18 AM

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ZangetsuPriest said:


if the explanation do not matters, so how you can considerate something not logical in the first place ?

oh i forgot, you have special critical thinking no one has!


Sorry priest, but could you clarify whom you are addressing?
Oct 6, 2014 10:18 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Stuff

That's why I said debatble, AFAIK

On a side note
Praland said:
It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion

maybe we should take that elsewhere?
Oct 6, 2014 10:21 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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Ok, enough discussing end story content from me here - feel free to pull me elsewhere if you want to continue ^^
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Oct 6, 2014 10:22 AM

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InsertPriestHere said:
CookingPriest said:
Stuff

That's why I said debatble, AFAIK

On a side note
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It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion

maybe we should take that elsewhere?

MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death".
Oct 6, 2014 10:22 AM

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FakePriest said:

So we shouldnt call AMAZING ANIMATION amazing because it isnt as amazing as Hollywood animated movies or the once-in-a-while-Ghibli movies, even if it is FAR more amazing from any other series currently airing.

Professionals with too much free time everywhere.


If there are some animation FAR better than this one.. then yes.. you shouldnt call it amazing, obviously..
And no ufotable doesnt create something far better than anything else.. A bit over avarage i would say.
Oct 6, 2014 10:24 AM

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FakePriest said:
InsertPriestHere said:

That's why I said debatble, AFAIK

On a side note

maybe we should take that elsewhere?

MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death".

Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope.
Oct 6, 2014 10:24 AM

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Lockensocke said:
more hipster stuff

Yeah...

Ufotable has clearly a bit over average animation.
Oct 6, 2014 10:27 AM

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FakePriest said:
Lockensocke said:
more hipster stuff

Yeah...

Ufotable has clearly a bit over average animation.

He's somehow believes that those were all still frames moving from one shot to another with flashy effects to make it look like animation. No idea how, I guess we watched two different things.
Oct 6, 2014 10:29 AM

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Lockensocke said:

If there are some animation FAR better than this one.. then yes.. you shouldnt call it amazing, obviously..
And no ufotable doesnt create something far better than anything else.. A bit over avarage i would say.


Weren't you going to leave this thread, or does your unacknowledged viewpoint still have some sparks left before it finally gets snuffed out? I don't understand how fundamentally you simply can't appreciate the animation quality and the effort put into this production just because it doesn't coincide with your favorites of "good quality" animation. I would recognize an anime with good animation regardless of the series it's from or the fanbase it possesses. Or is it simply because it looks too "new" and contrasts with your view that good animation has to be traditionally rooted without CGI or special effects (since you apparently keep bringing up Ghibli and American animation).
Oct 6, 2014 10:30 AM

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InsertPriestHere said:
FakePriest said:

MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death".

Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope.
Nope.It is the same for her as well.
Oct 6, 2014 10:38 AM

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InsertPriestHere said:
FakePriest said:

MEoDP cant see the Types' lines since they arent from Earth and dont have the same "concept of death".

Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope.


No.

Oct 6, 2014 10:54 AM

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suikaMUSIC said:


Weren't you going to leave this thread, or does your unacknowledged viewpoint still have some sparks left before it finally gets snuffed out? I don't understand how fundamentally you simply can't appreciate the animation quality and the effort put into this production just because it doesn't coincide with your favorites of "good quality" animation. I would recognize an anime with good animation regardless of the series it's from or the fanbase it possesses. Or is it simply because it looks too "new" and contrasts with your view that good animation has to be traditionally rooted without CGI or special effects (since you apparently keep bringing up Ghibli and American animation).


So thats how you can stay in your tiny dreamworld where fate zero was well animated.. you just missinterpretate what other people say and you are just too close minded to search around yourself. Explain to me when I have said i will drop this thread.. If you are able to read ( which i more an more doubt) you would notice that i said I drop disucssing with YOU. Answereing some fanboy who seeks for some information (which he ofc not accepts) I am allways willing to do.

And btw.. didnt you say you would drop talking to me? I mean this is already your second reply after saying you drop it. Can it be you got some attention problem you have to compensate?
Oct 6, 2014 11:00 AM

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Plz stop.
Your nonsense is quite irritating.

First of all,you speak as if ufotable and every GRAND studio that animates a movie every year and a half(hopefully)would deliver the same animation.No they wont and it is stupid to compare them.

Secondly, ufotable's anime have a LOT BETTER animation than anime the vast majority of anime of each year the realise something.
If that isnt amazing then nothing is.
Stop trying to "talk sense" to "ignorant" anime fans that see something for what it is because you dont like it compared to your favourite animation style.
Oct 6, 2014 11:08 AM

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FakePriest said:
Plz stop.
Your nonsense is quite irritating.


Are you talking to me?
Oct 6, 2014 11:10 AM

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Lockensocke said:
FakePriest said:
Plz stop.
Your nonsense is quite irritating.


Are you talking to me?
I see that your comprehension ability is quite lacking unless if you skipped everything else I typed..
Oct 6, 2014 11:16 AM

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CookingPriest said:
InsertPriestHere said:

Isn't that Tohnos limit, though? From what I can gather, Ryougi's is "several ranks above" it or some such, so whatever she perceives as "alive" she can see the "death" of, whereas Tohnos is more limited in it's scope.


No.


Oct 6, 2014 11:28 AM

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Oct 6, 2014 11:46 AM

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Beautiful.
Oct 6, 2014 1:00 PM

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Praland said:
It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion


Yeah, what the fuck people?
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Oct 6, 2014 1:07 PM

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insan3priest said:
Praland said:
It's nice to see people discussing about something that happens at the end of this route in the prologue discussion


Yeah, what the fuck people?
Someone said "asspull."
Then powerlevels.
Then you know what sort of things happen afterwards.

It could have been worse though, at least that was still about UBW...
Oct 6, 2014 1:15 PM

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6/5; had to get a fkn bucket for the blood coming out of my nose
Oct 6, 2014 1:19 PM

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So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show...
Oct 6, 2014 1:22 PM

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So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show...

Ikr
So many freakin priests.

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Oct 6, 2014 1:25 PM

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Xway101 said:
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So much priests in here....though I agree...Kirei is the best character from that show...

Ikr
So many freakin priests.

They're celebrating! LEAVE.THEM.BE!!
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Oct 6, 2014 1:30 PM

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What ufotable do with their blend of cg effects and key animation is something very rare, they have their own signature, and now they're showing their powerlevel with sakuga.
it's reminds me of people complaining about Yuasa style.
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I enjoyed this, even though I thought I wouldn't, might be because of my low expectations.

I started liking once Archer appeared, I always loved his character design, and him being voiced by Swuabe is so freaking awesome, I got so excited when I heard his voice. Too bad I already spoiled myself a while ago, on Archer's true identity.

This was decent. 4/5. Certainly better than F/Z first episode.
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Oct 6, 2014 2:50 PM

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Rin/10 can't wait for the rest
Don't forget.
Always, somewhere,
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As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
Oct 6, 2014 3:41 PM

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It was good for first episode, they managed to do pretty well, showed key moments of prologue and I am officially hyped now.
I liked the fact that they showed everything needed but the tempo was still there.
I also liked some parts of music and how there were some signs of future themes even in this episode.
I liked that they included Himuro-Makidera-Kaede trio and their relationship with Tohsaka (taken from FHA).
I didn't like some voices but I guess that's something I'll get use to. Tohsaka design has also its flaws.. typical Ufotable character. Kaede was too tall for my taste.
But overall, this was great introduction.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1282895#8dZ4eV3Ki0zyedR7.99
Oct 6, 2014 3:56 PM

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mirakura said:
Xway101 said:

Ikr
So many freakin priests.

They're rejoicing! LEAVE.THEM.BE!!

Fixed.
Oct 6, 2014 5:43 PM

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HYPE HYPE HYPE.

Tears went down when I saw Saber animated again T^T
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."


Oct 6, 2014 9:31 PM

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Can't wait for this scene. Or will we get it?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Oct 6, 2014 10:46 PM

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OMFG that was fucking awesome!! I was more excited for psycho pass 2 but after this prologue I can tell this will be anime of the year.
Oct 6, 2014 10:56 PM

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No, that's Fate route only.
Oct 6, 2014 11:17 PM
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Zapredon said:
Can't wait for this scene. Or will we get it?



Though I don't think it's something that big to make a fuss about. Still that's enjoyable u_u



Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details.
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Oct 6, 2014 11:55 PM

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Not_A_Priest said:
No, that's Fate route only.


No,
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Oct 7, 2014 1:09 AM

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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY

ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL

Oct 7, 2014 1:27 AM

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Didn't disappoint. Can't wait for the series.
I'm too old for this sh**t.
Oct 7, 2014 1:35 AM

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schmoopsie said:
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY

ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL



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antonn said:
schmoopsie said:
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY

ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL




YOU ASSHOLE
Oct 7, 2014 2:00 AM
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schmoopsie said:
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY

ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL



If you want to spoil whole UBW here you go
Oct 7, 2014 3:31 AM

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schmoopsie said:
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ARCHER SAID/WHISPER WHEN HE WAS FIGHTING LANCER? IT WAS LIKE AFTER HIS SWORD BROKE. I'M SO BAD AT EXPLAINING SORRY

ANYONE? PLEASE LOLOL


I wouldn't recommend reading it.
Oct 7, 2014 5:11 AM

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Nice start to the series. Got me excited for more. I wasn't entirely sure that I would want to watch this, but now there's no doubt.
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