| Yeah that's true. HxH is a big manga in Japan, and in the same league of Naruto, and above FT, Bleach, KnB, Magi, etc, except for one piece of course. |
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| I prefer Naruto and Bleach over HxH but it's a damn good anime. I only have unpopular opinions about HxH, first is I would not have been able to finish it if it wasn't for the time Kurapika & Killua got, same with Naruto, no way I would be able to finish it if it wasn't for Sasuke & rest of Uchihas. Don't execute me pls. |
Cloud1Hx2 said: I think its an awesome Shounen series, and I prefer it to the big three... however that's not exactly a compliment as Bleach and Naruto have been turd-tier for years... so I won't even write about them. Instead I'll give a few reasons on why I prefer it to the third of the big three which is actually decent, One Piece. Something I like about HxH is that while it certainly has its cliches, it regularly takes a lot of Shounen Cliches and tips them on their head. At the end of Chimera Arc you'd expect Adult Gon to go confront the King in some "epic" final battle... but no, we instead get a much more artistic end, filled with integrity to an amazing character [Meruem] - Gon didn't really have any place fighting The King, his goal was to save Kite... it would been sooooo typical Shounen if his fight with The King was forced in because he's the "main character" - Even his fight with Pitou was quite unexpected. After all the build up I was expecting some big, drawn out brawl but instead we got an absolute massacre... and I loved it. In One Piece it seems like for most major arcs [Marineford doesn't count for obvious reasons] Luffy will always fight the main antagonist or strongest enemy at the end, it's getting annoying and repetitive. For example, in the most recent arc for OP there's other characters that have far more reason to beat and defeat Dolfy but of course... Luffy is the "main character" so he just has to, right? I completely love that Gon didn't fight Meruem and Netero did instead, I like that Mereum was taken out by a more crude method which was ultimately a result of being outsmarted because he was overpowered. Of course that's just an example. Stepping away from fights, I also like the World in HxH more. It feels denser, richer. From what we've seen so far DC is far more intriguing to me then NW. I know we still haven't seen too much of NW but we've seen even less of DC and it feels infinitely more dangerous then NW in their respective universes. Also, something I like about HxH is that Togashi doesn't overly rely on the main character Gon and have him included in everything to try and keep things interesting. Togashi can take Gon out of the picture and still manages to produce an interesting story. Other characters could carry the story in HxH, and that's a testament to Togashi's amazing story-telling and character building. I could go on and on at why I prefer the series to One Piece. I think from what we've seen, Nen and Hatsu has far more depth then Devil Fruits and Haki, the relationships are MUCH better... That doesn't mean HxH doesn't have its flaws because it certainly does but I just prefer it to OP. I just love how most of your reasoning comes from clairvoyance. Must be a handy skill. |
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| Unlike you, I loved HxH from the beginning. Starting from the Hunter Exam. From there comes the matter of opinion. Anyway. Since Naruto, I loved the Exam Chunnin arc. Then when I went to watch hunterxhunter I saw a huge similarity, but I still preferred the Hunter Exam. The tests are all different and unique. Gon capturing Hisoka's plate. Illumi manipulating Killua. The gambling game of Leorio... XD Now about Chimera Ants arc, I prefer to divide it into Queen arc and King arc. You are at the beginning of the King's arc and from there only tends to improve. I confess that before this part I was really bored of HxH, but then I realized that the entire Queen arc was the key development for the success that the King's arc had ^^ Stop there is a waste, what is going ahead is very interestingly, there is a great development of characters, you must not miss. Good luck anyway ^^ |
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Cloud1Hx2 said: I just love how you didn't even read my post. Get lost. How does that even make any sense? The only way I could make that comment was by reading your post. Clairvoyance: You speak of the 'DC' that hasn't even shown up in the anime...or Luffy fighting Doffy which hasn't happened either. You must have the ability to see into the future, that is the only explanation. |
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RedRoseFring said: Cloud1Hx2 said: I just love how you didn't even read my post. Get lost. How does that even make any sense? The only way I could make that comment was by reading your post. Clairvoyance: You speak of the 'DC' that hasn't even shown up in the anime...or Luffy fighting Doffy which hasn't happened either. You must have the ability to see into the future, that is the only explanation. I don't know about the OP part, as I'm not up to date but Luffy does more often than not fight whoever the main antagonist is of an arc so it's a pretty safe assumption to make. Also, since he's talking about the DC arc it's a pretty safe bet he's read what has been released of the arc in the manga. And, he's right, it does indeed already feel pretty damn dangerous. Maybe it won't live up to the hype, though. I don't know. If you want to argue that the arc shouldn't have been brought up in an anime thread, I would agree though. |
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insan3soldiern said: RedRoseFring said: How does that even make any sense? The only way I could make that comment was by reading your post. Clairvoyance: You speak of the 'DC' that hasn't even shown up in the anime...or Luffy fighting Doffy which hasn't happened either. You must have the ability to see into the future, that is the only explanation. I don't know about the OP part, as I'm not up to date but Luffy does more often than not fight whoever the main antagonist is of an arc so it's a pretty safe assumption to make. Also, since he's talking about the DC arc it's a pretty safe bet he's read what has been released of the arc in the manga. And, he's right, it does indeed already feel pretty damn dangerous. Maybe it won't live up to the hype, though. I don't know. If you want to argue that the arc shouldn't have been brought up in an anime thread, I would agree though. I was just making sure he understand that his reasoning was based on things that have not happened yet and assumptions. Stuff like that shouldn't be brought up in the anime thread. I already knew about it, and it probably won't make an appearance in the anime, so no harm done. |
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| ^ I like you, from reading a few of your comments I can tell you're a smart person. I agree with what you're saying about not every anime should be deep, I've seen countless people trash talk echhi anime saying it has no story only fanservice, blah, blah. But most people don't realize that echhi anime wasn't made for being deep in the first place, and this applies to every anime and that's why I always tell people to rate according to the genre and not rate everything equally, because the deep anime will always win then. This doesn't mean no one can't criticize anything, But people shouldn't say this is different than those so this anime is automatically better. In the end everything comes down to opinion and how much you enjoy the series. |
keragammingSep 7, 2014 5:36 PM
boredxxx said: And thats one of the things i dont understand about hxh. The story and main fights are meant to revolve around the main character because he's the main character. Bringing up one piece, which if you talk about should know that luffy (surprisingly) is the strongest on the crew. If he was just there and sanji and zoro were main characters on different arcs I might not enjoy one piece as much as I do (or at all). Well, for me, one of the most annoying things about OP and many other battle shounen is that the main protagonist is, more likely than not, going to beat the big bad at the end of an arc and hog all of the glory. I get sick of that and, for me, Gon not being pushed front and center particularly often is one of my favorite elements of the series. Other characters can and do get the limelight and, I feel, the series is all the better for it. |
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jpem said: PoeticJustice said: A lot of nostalgia here.Easily better than the majority of shounen out there. The only shounen that give it a run for its money are: Rurouni Kenshin, Jojo, Yu Hakusho, and FMA 03. That is about it. All other shounen can go to hell. Nah, I stay posting that real shit. No nostalgia. Notice I didn't say dbz. |
insan3soldiern said: boredxxx said: And thats one of the things i dont understand about hxh. The story and main fights are meant to revolve around the main character because he's the main character. Bringing up one piece, which if you talk about should know that luffy (surprisingly) is the strongest on the crew. If he was just there and sanji and zoro were main characters on different arcs I might not enjoy one piece as much as I do (or at all). Well, for me, one of the most annoying things about OP and many other battle shounen is that the main protagonist is, more likely than not, going to beat the big bad at the end of an arc and hog all of the glory. I get sick of that and, for me, Gon not being pushed front and center particularly often is one of my favorite elements of the series. Other characters can and do get the limelight and, I feel, the series is all the better for it. The real question is: how often does that actually happen? Because most of the time it is blown way out of proportion. Using Naruto as an example: |
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| @ RedRoseFring I'm not reading that spoiler, as I'm not caught up with Naruto yet. I've finished the Pain arc so, if you delete anything that may spoil whatever comes after, I'll read that spoiler. |
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| @insane, done, he only had like one thing post Pain arc. Though I also had to take out some One Piece stuff that kinda ruined his point as the examples he gave were post Fishman island so I deleted them. RedRoseFring said: The real question is: how often does that actually happen? Because most of the time it is blown way out of proportion. Using Naruto as an example: |
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insan3soldiern said: boredxxx said: And thats one of the things i dont understand about hxh. The story and main fights are meant to revolve around the main character because he's the main character. Bringing up one piece, which if you talk about should know that luffy (surprisingly) is the strongest on the crew. If he was just there and sanji and zoro were main characters on different arcs I might not enjoy one piece as much as I do (or at all). Well, for me, one of the most annoying things about OP and many other battle shounen is that the main protagonist is, more likely than not, going to beat the big bad at the end of an arc and hog all of the glory. I get sick of that and, for me, Gon not being pushed front and center particularly often is one of my favorite elements of the series. Other characters can and do get the limelight and, I feel, the series is all the better for it. Gon's loser counter: Hisoka: 3 times Hanzo, he never even bothered with Mike the dog, the troupe, especially Nobunaga. 29 times against Knuckle, and winning against the Bomber he was still weaker. And he was always weaker than Killua, usually it's the deutagonist doing the catching up. When Luffy "lost" against Crocodile, did it feel like the way Gon lost? To me, no. I knew this is just a (very) temporary set-up. But it's not just fights, everyone gets as much, if not more screentime. I don't think any shonen would take its main character offscreen for giving the mos important roles to someone else. Only for when the MC trains just long enough to ultimately make a big comeback and have the main stage (or he got stuck between two buildings). I hated how in Naruto they had to force him into the Hidan arc at the end to steal the spot light. And look at him now, he's basically |
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cantius said: What about Hisoka vs Kastro? Or the nen introduction?tsudecimo said: Well the group that thinks the CA arc is the worst, or terrible is a minority. Heavens Arena minus Hisoka vs Gon and Greed Island were the worst IMO. CA is overrated but has its moments. |
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| The critic That I do to the most of battle shounen is the little innovation in the arcs, in addition to cliches and the excessive use of Deus Ex Machina. I like HxH because is more logic, realist, and the plot is refreshing and innovative in each arc I call tard to other user when he said this: One piece, Naruto.... is better just because -.... this show sucks because it doesnt have fights/battles |
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cronosteso23 said: The critic That I do to the most of battle shounen is the little innovation in the arcs, in addition to cliches and the excessive use of Deus Ex Machina. I like HxH because is more logic, realist, and the plot is refreshing and innovative in each arc I call tard to other user when he said this: One piece, Naruto.... is better just because -.... this show sucks because it doesnt have fights/battles ^ What anime is your avatar from? |
keragamming said: cronosteso23 said: The critic That I do to the most of battle shounen is the little innovation in the arcs, in addition to cliches and the excessive use of Deus Ex Machina. I like HxH because is more logic, realist, and the plot is refreshing and innovative in each arc I call tard to other user when he said this: One piece, Naruto.... is better just because -.... this show sucks because it doesnt have fights/battles ^ What anime is your avatar from? Medaka Box, which is not a very good series IMO. |
MrLief said: keragamming said: ^ What anime is your avatar from? Medaka Box, which is not a very good series IMO. Thnx, I'll give it a shot anyways. |
keragamming said: MrLief said: Medaka Box, which is not a very good series IMO. Thnx, I'll give it a shot anyways. The creator of this series is Nishio Ishin (author Katanagatari-Bakemonogatari) I recommend you watch Medaka Box. Kumagawa is my favorite character of all time . The minus arc (#3) is the best (and one of the best of shonen battle) but it wasn't adapted in the anime |
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boredxxx said: So I started watching hunter because some reviwers on utube review hunter an also a person i knew a whilr back said its amazing. I didnt get into it too much from the start but from loving one piece i knew slower begginings do not make a series bad. Im currently on about 102 and i hve to be honest im bored. I love the big 3 and fairy tail but somethnbg about this is less grippig for me. I enjoy it partly especially Killua who i like more than the main char. I thought the chimera ant arc was going to blow me away and i did enjoy it at the start but the main char is a kind of odd. Anyways just wanted to hear some thoughts on peoples opinions about it. I dont hate the show but its not as enjoyable as i expected. Is there something cool coming my way (no major spoilers)? Mod Edit: Modified title for clarity and/or easier searching. You don't even have HxH in your list. Was this a troll thread? |
boredxxx said: Agafin said: You don't even have HxH in your list. Was this a troll thread? How would I know about the arc and its details if it was a troll... I havent added all the series I watch because I often forget to. Ill add it just for you :) Oh. Well, now that you've completed it, why not update this thread with your final thoughts. Wasn't that the point? |
| They were nice. I was pretty hooked on almost the whole show. I could accept it being better than others, but not by as much as people ussualy claim. Haven't seen one piece yet so I don't know about that |
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boredxxx said: Actually you reminded me about the series just now. I am on about 102-105. Ill complete in within the next few weeks and post an update which is a good idea. Hopefully the end of CA arc will be good. Huh, so you pretty much didn't make any advancement since you made this thread? hentai_eucli said: I like it more than the big three as well. I don't know what you mean by "not as much as others". Personally, the fillers are what bring the score of Naruto down. They are a huge part of the show and for the most part are awful. The canon material itself is probably worth an 8 or a 9 in my book. One Piece Pre TS is an 8, Post TS is kinda lower. Bleach is just fine really.They were nice. I was pretty hooked on almost the whole show. I could accept it being better than others, but not by as much as people ussualy claim. Haven't seen one piece yet so I don't know about that |
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boredxxx said: I like one piece alot more than this, but its just my opinion. I dislike the way the main character works in the series and find the supporting main far more interesting. Do you mean the protagonist? |
boredxxx said: Definately give one piece a shot. There is a reason it is #1 in sales. Hopefully youj can bear the introductions because fourth arc on badassery starts, although for me what was before was also great. I like one piece alot more than this, but its just my opinion. I dislike the way the main character works in the series and find the supporting main far more interesting. That's understandable. The MC is one of the lesser liked Shounen protagonists. Killua is loved a lot more, but he can't carry the show on his own. Kurapika is also great, but is absent for majority of the time. And then there's the other one. I think the part you're at is when the Chimera Ant arc started to drag a bit. Push through to the Palace invasion which has some great stuff. It drags a bit after that too, but the ending is great. Ends it off as an 8/10 for me. Judging from what you said before, the following arc may not be very interesting to you, although it's better than GI for sure. Still a pretty good 7/10 though. |
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insan3Inquisitor said: boredxxx said: And thats one of the things i dont understand about hxh. The story and main fights are meant to revolve around the main character because he's the main character. Bringing up one piece, which if you talk about should know that luffy (surprisingly) is the strongest on the crew. If he was just there and sanji and zoro were main characters on different arcs I might not enjoy one piece as much as I do (or at all). Well, for me, one of the most annoying things about OP and many other battle shounen is that the main protagonist is, more likely than not, going to beat the big bad at the end of an arc and hog all of the glory. I get sick of that and, for me, Gon not being pushed front and center particularly often is one of my favorite elements of the series. Other characters can and do get the limelight and, I feel, the series is all the better for it. ^^ This is also one of the reasons why I like him. |
Agafin said: I like it more than the big three as well. I don't know what you mean by "not as much as others". Personally, the fillers are what bring the score of Naruto down. They are a huge part of the show and for the most part are awful. The canon material itself is probably worth an 8 or a 9 in my book. One Piece Pre TS is an 8, Post TS is kinda lower. Bleach is just fine really. I didn't say I liked it more, I said I could accept it being better. And the not as much as other is basically what I said, I don't know how to explain it simpler. Fillers have don't affect me. Its not like you can't skip them. Lowering score because of fillers is silly imo. |
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| Yeah. Gon doesn't take the limelight except for having an arc where the entire Hunter Community has an election centered on saving him. Has almost every major antagonist and protagonist support remark on how much potential he has. He's not pushed to the front at all. |
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hentai_eucli said: They were nice. I was pretty hooked on almost the whole show. I could accept it being better than others, but not by as much as people ussualy claim. Haven't seen one piece yet so I don't know about that Not as much, far more than that. One Piece overall is worse than Naruto 1 and better than Shipp, for reference purposes. |
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Mikasa said: hentai_eucli said: They were nice. I was pretty hooked on almost the whole show. I could accept it being better than others, but not by as much as people ussualy claim. Haven't seen one piece yet so I don't know about that Not as much, far more than that. One Piece overall is worse than Naruto 1 and better than Shipp, for reference purposes. You do realise that that is your opinion? Why are you providing reference like its a fact? |
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hentai_eucli said: Mikasa said: Not as much, far more than that. One Piece overall is worse than Naruto 1 and better than Shipp, for reference purposes. You do realise that that is your opinion? Why are you providing reference like its a fact? Seems like you haven't been acquainted with Mikasa yet. |
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