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| Flashbacks sure are convenient. Sinon is a total spaz really don't understand why they're making her such an absurd character and I'm really hoping she doesn't jump into the Kirito harem. |
| wonder why they are shoving sinon on top of asuna. kinda weird |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| Kiritrap can still dodge bullets without moving an inch. |
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Bheaze said: Another new member to Kirito's "Harem Club", this turn of events are rather unsurprising.wonder why they are shoving sinon on top of asuna. kinda weird |
| Memories are the best pictures our minds can paint..... or so they say. |
| Questions from the guy who watched the first season only last November and hasn't found the time to read the LNs: 1.) Where in the SAO story does the Laughing Coffin extermination fit in? I distinctly recall we had a few episodes of Sherlock Holmes nature in SAO where Laughing Coffin took center stage (Think I read somewhere that it was wrongly placed as well). I also recall the ugly dude that was stalking Asuna from her Guild was tagged as a member of the "remains" of Laughing Coffin. Does that mean the extermination happened before Kirito's first player kill? Yes I mean the no-weapons-hand-into-chest kill. 2.) I get the deal with the PTSD, and I do understand that Kirito considers ALO an extension of SAO, in that case, why did he refrain from killing people in ALO? I distinctly remember him tearing up some red armored fairy in the sky during one episode. Killing Sugou in game after the torture and attempted Asuna rape I get, but that red fairy was pretty damn innocent in comparison, no? Yet he still sliced him up like a madman until he became a speck of light. If that were the case in ALO, then why would his "I can't kill in this game" mindset suddenly flow out in GGO? I thought he didn't believe that people could die from dying in-game in GGO, no? 3.) A bit of personal curiosity, but after meeting Death Gun and getting spooked, it seemed like Kirito didn't actually kill any of his opponents after that (he disarmed and cut up their guns in the anime), could someone confirm this to be the case for me? I'm wondering if his admittance to Sinon to not being able to kill anyone even if his loved one's lives depended on it was reflected in his actions in-game. 4.) I really loved how we got a flashback of the familiar SAO setting. I gotta ask though, if Kirito killed someone in SAO, didn't the cursor turn Red permanently or something? I don't recall his cursor turning red after killing off the creepy Asuna stalker? I'm loving this show, mainly because of the OP Jedi Action, brought on by two years of survival instincts learned in a constant series of life-or-death situations. The fact that he was able to discern Sinon's attempt to shoot his leg based on her eye movements in the sniper lens alone deserves praise, that stuff is some high level rangers/tracker skills (albeit impossible to replicate in real life). I wanna see him improve with a gun though, because the single handed lightsaber trick is getting old pretty fast. More development for Sinon please. I"m pretty damn sure that bystander A is in love with her. I wanna see a bit more development on her end of the story. Bring on next episode! And gif of the bullet slice please :D |
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L-Ryoshi said: Questions from the guy who watched the first season only last November and hasn't found the time to read the LNs: 1.) Where in the SAO story does the Laughing Coffin extermination fit in? I distinctly recall we had a few episodes of Sherlock Holmes nature in SAO where Laughing Coffin took center stage (Think I read somewhere that it was wrongly placed as well). I also recall the ugly dude that was stalking Asuna from her Guild was tagged as a member of the "remains" of Laughing Coffin. Does that mean the extermination happened before Kirito's first player kill? Yes I mean the no-weapons-hand-into-chest kill. 2.) I get the deal with the PTSD, and I do understand that Kirito considers ALO an extension of SAO, in that case, why did he refrain from killing people in ALO? I distinctly remember him tearing up some red armored fairy in the sky during one episode. Killing Sugou in game after the torture and attempted Asuna rape I get, but that red fairy was pretty damn innocent in comparison, no? Yet he still sliced him up like a madman until he became a speck of light. If that were the case in ALO, then why would his "I can't kill in this game" mindset suddenly flow out in GGO? I thought he didn't believe that people could die from dying in-game in GGO, no? 3.) A bit of personal curiosity, but after meeting Death Gun and getting spooked, it seemed like Kirito didn't actually kill any of his opponents after that (he disarmed and cut up their guns in the anime), could someone confirm this to be the case for me? I'm wondering if his admittance to Sinon to not being able to kill anyone even if his loved one's lives depended on it was reflected in his actions in-game. 4.) I really loved how we got a flashback of the familiar SAO setting. I gotta ask though, if Kirito killed someone in SAO, didn't the cursor turn Red permanently or something? I don't recall his cursor turning red after killing off the creepy Asuna stalker? I'm loving this show, mainly because of the OP Jedi Action, brought on by two years of survival instincts learned in a constant series of life-or-death situations. The fact that he was able to discern Sinon's attempt to shoot his leg based on her eye movements in the sniper lens alone deserves praise, that stuff is some high level rangers/tracker skills (albeit impossible to replicate in real life). I wanna see him improve with a gun though, because the single handed lightsaber trick is getting old pretty fast. More development for Sinon please. I"m pretty damn sure that bystander A is in love with her. I wanna see a bit more development on her end of the story. Bring on next episode! And gif of the bullet slice please :D 1.) Sometime between the timeskips. However it's definitely before Kuradeel, so that wasn't actually his first kill. 2.)I don't know about him ever saying anything like that? It's not like the Eugene (the fairy guy) felt pain or would have actually died. ALO was just a game. He just felt that in GGO for a moment because he ran into Death Gun, who was a Laughing Coffin Member. 3.)Er no, he pretty clearly kills a guy. It wouldn't be his victory otherwise. 4.)I'm pretty sure they explain this in the show as well, but from the LN's it's definitely mentioned that killing players with an orange cursor (red is only for monsters) will not turn your cursor orange, because the game will interpret it as self defense. |
| AWESOME episode, like the one before. Those two made me rank this anime from 8 to 9 |
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Fai said: k2kambo said: bit too dramatic for me, its like hes traumatized from sao but he should be over by that now. its kill or be killed when they went against LC but those three just stood there to die despite the guy being almost killed Please go and tell that to thousands of soldiers from iraq, vietnam war veterans, cops, etc... "You got a ptsd? bah go get over it" While what you said is true, it's also a case of "Oh, I've got PTSD, I feel like sh!t" ... 2 episodes later ... "Nah, I'm over PTSD" one season later "You know that PTSD stuff I had? Ye, I think it's back" They should've either incorporated PTSD and trauma from killing people into ALO or skipped it altogether. Now, since PTSD and trauma from killing plays a huge role obviously skipping it is not an option. I love little aspect of Kirito actually being forced to take persons life in a hellhole SAO was, but I don't like it was never mentioned or hinted or even noticable in his behavior until it was convenient for him to suffer from it. Kirito displayed no signs of PTSD up until this point. Killing 3 people is not something he should've gone over and forget. Now, I'm not going to say they should've shown episode of their attack on LC, but they could've adapted his character at least a little bit for ALO. Not even a lot. The ending of ALO had an episode where he met that twirling mustache villain whose name I can't be bothered to remember because he was so bland and the guy attacked Kirito with knife. That scene, or the ending of it, when Kirito wins a fight, could've been done with Kirito giving a small speech about taking humans life. Or something of sorts. TL;DR: There was never any sign of Kirito suffering from PTSD or having taken human life. He's presented as teenager with high morale standards and something like taking 3 lives should've made an impact on him which would have been noticed in ALO. They literally pulled whole Killed-people-and-suffers-for-it stuff from thin air. |
nina4life said: Fai said: Please go and tell that to thousands of soldiers from iraq, vietnam war veterans, cops, etc... "You got a ptsd? bah go get over it" While what you said is true, it's also a case of "Oh, I've got PTSD, I feel like sh!t" ... 2 episodes later ... "Nah, I'm over PTSD" one season later "You know that PTSD stuff I had? Ye, I think it's back" They should've either incorporated PTSD and trauma from killing people into ALO or skipped it altogether. Now, since PTSD and trauma from killing plays a huge role obviously skipping it is not an option. I love little aspect of Kirito actually being forced to take persons life in a hellhole SAO was, but I don't like it was never mentioned or hinted or even noticable in his behavior until it was convenient for him to suffer from it. Kirito displayed no signs of PTSD up until this point. Killing 3 people is not something he should've gone over and forget. Now, I'm not going to say they should've shown episode of their attack on LC, but they could've adapted his character at least a little bit for ALO. Not even a lot. The ending of ALO had an episode where he met that twirling mustache villain whose name I can't be bothered to remember because he was so bland and the guy attacked Kirito with knife. That scene, or the ending of it, when Kirito wins a fight, could've been done with Kirito giving a small speech about taking humans life. Or something of sorts. TL;DR: There was never any sign of Kirito suffering from PTSD or having taken human life. He's presented as teenager with high morale standards and something like taking 3 lives should've made an impact on him which would have been noticed in ALO. They literally pulled whole Killed-people-and-suffers-for-it stuff from thin air. He was kinda focused on saving Asuna, wasn't him? having her by his side probably kept him from thinking what he had done, now he finds Death Gun, a former LC member and there's noone by his side to confort him, so yea... Also, for him, those weren't the only people who died because of him, he keeps blaming himself for his guild member's death along with Diabel, even if it wasn't actually his fault, he could've saved them, so he have been holding to that remorse since... floor 1? |
| bringing up some more SAO moment never seen befor is alright but woulda been better in the actuall first anime in my opinion this episode was allright I liked it but could use some scenes of other fights not just bullet deflecting kirito |
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| I liked the flashback, it's been a while since we've seen some stuff from the first arc. Harem Master Kirito is at it again by adding another girl. What a guy. |
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Reyxe said: He was kinda focused on saving Asuna, wasn't him? having her by his side probably kept him from thinking what he had done, now he finds Death Gun, a former LC member and there's noone by his side to confort him, so yea... Also, for him, those weren't the only people who died because of him, he keeps blaming himself for his guild member's death along with Diabel, even if it wasn't actually his fault, he could've saved them, so he have been holding to that remorse since... floor 1? Ever lived with person suffering with PTSD? I do, for about 20 years now. No matter what their current goal in life or what they're doing, or how important what they're doing is, you notice PTSD. And yes, Kirito blaming himself for death of his friends in his guild was done nicely, I remember posting on episode threads back then and saying I like it. What I don't like is killing people part. Losing people and blaming yourself for it is huge part of who Kirito is, and in my opinion, it was done wonderfully. I enjoyed whole explanation as to why he avoids guilds. In contrast, there was not a single thing pointing out Kirito is afraid of harming others up until this point. He is playing game in virtual reality, and those screams of players "dying" seem pretty real to me. At some point he would've recollected what happened at LC raid. That's how memories strongly engraved in our brain work, they resurface when something "similar" happens. His first fight in GGO, while he was cuting guy with lightsaber? A guy screamed like hell, not a single reaction from Kirito. As a matter of fact, he only commented: "Oh man, I have to do this 5? more times?". Not exact quote or number, but you get my meaning. So a guy screaming out of his lungs out of (virtual) pain (why else would he scream) doesn't make him remember anything, but an image of clan is required. I'll say again, I love whole he-killed-people thing. I really, really do. It brings even bigger depth to his character, makes him human and makes everything that happened in SAO seem even more as hell than it already was. But I don't like how it was presented and how it wasn't even slightly hinted before. A small note as well. Contrary to my opinion of SAO, which I consider mediocre show, I enjoy watching Kirito. He is, in my opinion, a really well developed, deep character with lots of explanation going on around him. He is somewhat similar to Tatsuya in Mahouka, but unlike Tatsuya, a horrible character, he has backstory, he has development, emotions and most of all, he reacts to things in human way. He is not God but he is strong and he knows that, he also uses that. He's confident and believes he can achieve things. I love characters like that. I truly like Kirito as character. |
nina4lifeAug 11, 2014 11:51 AM
nina4life said: TL;DR stuff... I truly like Kirito as character. I was too lazy to read the whole post, but holy shit this last line is SO uncommon O.o |
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| 3 Kirito quotes that perfectly summarize SAO2: 1) Could Death Gun be one of the 2 people I killed in SAO? 2) We must fight as hard as we can, otherwise we don't have the right to live in this (virtual) world. 3) Killing girls isn't my thing. If you aren't bothered by this, good for you. Season 2 has been hilarious so far. |
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| Best episode so far |
nina4life said: Reyxe said: He was kinda focused on saving Asuna, wasn't him? having her by his side probably kept him from thinking what he had done, now he finds Death Gun, a former LC member and there's noone by his side to confort him, so yea... Also, for him, those weren't the only people who died because of him, he keeps blaming himself for his guild member's death along with Diabel, even if it wasn't actually his fault, he could've saved them, so he have been holding to that remorse since... floor 1? Ever lived with person suffering with PTSD? I do, for about 20 years now. No matter what their current goal in life or what they're doing, or how important what they're doing is, you notice PTSD. And yes, Kirito blaming himself for death of his friends in his guild was done nicely, I remember posting on episode threads back then and saying I like it. What I don't like is killing people part. Losing people and blaming yourself for it is huge part of who Kirito is, and in my opinion, it was done wonderfully. I enjoyed whole explanation as to why he avoids guilds. In contrast, there was not a single thing pointing out Kirito is afraid of harming others up until this point. He is playing game in virtual reality, and those screams of players "dying" seem pretty real to me. At some point he would've recollected what happened at LC raid. That's how memories strongly engraved in our brain work, they resurface when something "similar" happens. His first fight in GGO, while he was cuting guy with lightsaber? A guy screamed like hell, not a single reaction from Kirito. As a matter of fact, he only commented: "Oh man, I have to do this 5? more times?". Not exact quote or number, but you get my meaning. So a guy screaming out of his lungs out of (virtual) pain (why else would he scream) doesn't make him remember anything, but an image of clan is required. I'll say again, I love whole he-killed-people thing. I really, really do. It brings even bigger depth to his character, makes him human and makes everything that happened in SAO seem even more as hell than it already was. But I don't like how it was presented and how it wasn't even slightly hinted before. Yup, i knew what u mean, but still, i find the LC guild emblem as a way stronger "catalyst" [english isn't my native so i can't really find a better word] for his breakdown in GGO, as a matter of fact, it not being presented its something i can't really blame on SAO2 but SAO1, due to the highly rushed Aincrad arc and the hghly-meh ALO arc. As for the scream, well, i get your point, but for Kirito it was just a game where you aren't going to die irl, so that was maybe what kept him from getting that flashback, same with ALO Eugene's fight, he wouldn't have been able to even attack him if he knew the other guy was going to die. This is just my personal opinion tho, i might be wrong and i think i could be since i can't really remember much of the series. |
ReyxeAug 11, 2014 12:16 PM
| I hate how Kirito is always flirting with every girl he meets. |
| In this episode he says he killed 3 people. Didn't he kill 4? 3 LC members and Heatcliff? |
| Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. |
Reyxe said: strobber said: In this episode he says he killed 3 people. Didn't he kill 4? 3 LC members and Heatcliff? Heatchcliff/Kayaba wasn't actually killed by Kirito, i mean, he was in that place after SAO was cleared along with Asuna and Kirito... That was a death room. Everyone goes there before getting murdered. |
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Fai said: Reyxe said: Heatchcliff/Kayaba wasn't actually killed by Kirito, i mean, he was in that place after SAO was cleared along with Asuna and Kirito... That was a death room. Everyone goes there before getting murdered. Kirito didn't kill Kayaba regardless, he killed himself. yukishiromei said: I hate how Kirito is always flirting with every girl he meets. I...actually don't think he's done any flirting with any girl except Asuna. Teasing, yes, but he hasn't actively flirted. I think. nina4life said: Long post is long They actually don't feel any pain in the virtual world, so I have no idea why they scream (why would a game where you can feel pain be allowed to go into development and then be popular on top of that?) And the difference being that Laughing Coffin were the people he actually killed, while for everyone else, well, he just "kills" their avatars. |
Insertanamehere said: Fai said: That was a death room. Everyone goes there before getting murdered. Kirito didn't kill Kayaba regardless, he killed himself. yukishiromei said: I hate how Kirito is always flirting with every girl he meets. I...actually don't think he's done any flirting with any girl except Asuna. Teasing, yes, but he hasn't actively flirted. I think. nina4life said: Long post is long They actually don't feel any pain in the virtual world, so I have no idea why they scream (why would a game where you can feel pain be allowed to go into development and then be popular on top of that?) And the difference being that Laughing Coffin were the people he actually killed, while for everyone else, well, he just "kills" their avatars. YEah i know, was just correcting that it has nothing to do with a room. And I don't think "Hey gurllll, i got a severe ptsd from killing peopl~" would work as a great pickup line. |
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| The psychological aspect is interesting. The only thing that bothers me is deasu gunsu who looks kinda ridiculous, more like wannabe scary than actually scary |
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Fai said: Reyxe said: Heatchcliff/Kayaba wasn't actually killed by Kirito, i mean, he was in that place after SAO was cleared along with Asuna and Kirito... That was a death room. Everyone goes there before getting murdered. ¿? as it MIGHT be true, he went there along with Asuna and Kirito, so he MIGHT be alive. NOTE: I can't give any details about Kayaba since it would be a spoiler, he might or might not be alive as current SAO2 story. |
| I'm going to borrow the death pistol and blast those of you in support of a Kirito/Sinon romance. Asuna/Kirito is where its at. Love the episodes flashback and the effects that SAO left on the players. It shows that the MC isn't all perfect. |
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| The love was strong in this one. |
Reyxe said: Fai said: That was a death room. Everyone goes there before getting murdered. ¿? as it MIGHT be true, he went there along with Asuna and Kirito, so he MIGHT be alive. NOTE: I can't give any details about Kayaba since it would be a spoiler, he might or might not be alive as current SAO2 story. |
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Fai said: Reyxe said: ¿? as it MIGHT be true, he went there along with Asuna and Kirito, so he MIGHT be alive. NOTE: I can't give any details about Kayaba since it would be a spoiler, he might or might not be alive as current SAO2 story. [spoiler]Didn't know how to make this spoiler thing, lel. OT: He IS dead, but not cause kirito killed him, i remember somewhere around vol 7 saying that he died after trying to run a "scan" on his brain, this happened AFTER SAO was cleared, so Kirito didn't kill him, he "commited suicide".[/spoiler |
| This show is so fucking shit |
amare135 said: This show is so fucking shit There has been worse stuff... And if I become an Anime producer there shall be |
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hyperknees91 said: So wait? In ALO he experiences joy for kicking peoples asses clearly, but now all of a sudden he has PTSD? I really think the lack of proper build up for it is what makes it really unbelievable. And yeah the events after he killed Kuradeel never implied it had any effect on him. And yeah I think the problem with SAO story structure is it does stuff, then explains later. Feels kinda cheap really. Hmmm Sometimes you can forget shit and then something makes you recover it I guess being at SAO didn´t give ya time for being "muh PTSD" and maybe stress and Asuna´s luv (16.5) made him forget it... And maybe that in combination with being concentrated in ALO (being like "gotta save Asuna, gotta save Asuna" ) and the fact that those guys actually received help both phisically and psychologically helped him to bury that But then seeing that laughing coffin symbol, ensign, tatoo, trademark, dickgame, whatever made him be like "muh PTSD" and thus he started to hesitate on killing tho not enough for giving up and letting this Pedophile government Harry Potter like guy to get his hands and stuff.... Maybe it doesn´t sound like the heck of psychological explanations but it could make sense.... .... Whatever Today I am gifting 2x2 feet of Ukrainian soil Maintain this alive and you´ll get some ;D |
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Fai said: Insertanamehere said: Kirito didn't kill Kayaba regardless, he killed himself. I...actually don't think he's done any flirting with any girl except Asuna. Teasing, yes, but he hasn't actively flirted. I think. They actually don't feel any pain in the virtual world, so I have no idea why they scream (why would a game where you can feel pain be allowed to go into development and then be popular on top of that?) And the difference being that Laughing Coffin were the people he actually killed, while for everyone else, well, he just "kills" their avatars. YEah i know, was just correcting that it has nothing to do with a room. And I don't think "Hey gurllll, i got a severe ptsd from killing peopl~" would work as a great pickup line. I gotta try that line and tell ya what happened |
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Rolanddeschain said: amare135 said: This show is so fucking shit There has been worse stuff... And if I become an Anime producer there shall be Don't feed the troll, why would someone come and post how shitty an anime is? they are just attention whoring, well, this guy/girl is, since he/she isn't giving any proper reason. Also, indeed there is way, WAY worse series. |
Reyxe said: Rolanddeschain said: There has been worse stuff... And if I become an Anime producer there shall be Don't feed the troll, why would someone come and post how shitty an anime is? they are just attention whoring, well, this guy/girl is, since he/she isn't giving any proper reason. Also, indeed there is way, WAY worse series. And I shall make one of those ones :v |
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| You know what. As a self-labeled hater of SAO, this episode wasn't too bad! |
Rolanddeschain said: hyperknees91 said: So wait? In ALO he experiences joy for kicking peoples asses clearly, but now all of a sudden he has PTSD? I really think the lack of proper build up for it is what makes it really unbelievable. And yeah the events after he killed Kuradeel never implied it had any effect on him. And yeah I think the problem with SAO story structure is it does stuff, then explains later. Feels kinda cheap really. Hmmm Sometimes you can forget shit and then something makes you recover it I guess being at SAO didn´t give ya time for being "muh PTSD" and maybe stress and Asuna´s luv (16.5) made him forget it... And maybe that in combination with being concentrated in ALO (being like "gotta save Asuna, gotta save Asuna" ) and the fact that those guys actually received help both phisically and psychologically helped him to bury that But then seeing that laughing coffin symbol, ensign, tatoo, trademark, dickgame, whatever made him be like "muh PTSD" and thus he started to hesitate on killing tho not enough for giving up and letting this Pedophile government Harry Potter like guy to get his hands and stuff.... Maybe it doesn´t sound like the heck of psychological explanations but it could make sense.... .... Whatever Today I am gifting 2x2 feet of Ukrainian soil Maintain this alive and you´ll get some ;D While it's possible to happen, in the form of a story it just comes off as lazy writing. It might as well just be the writer going "he has it because I told you so" which it should be shown to the audience instead by being built up properly. Granted I'm not even blaming the fact that he had PTSD. He should have PTSD given his personality, it's just the way that it's introduced is very lacking. Like an earlier poster said, it should have been ever present ever since he killed Kuradeel. In fact the whole "have sex with me after killing him" would have made complete sense because he would have been wanting comfort from performing the action. However it was played for lawls and none of that was even remotely implied. |
hyperknees91Aug 11, 2014 6:45 PM
hyperknees91 said: Rolanddeschain said: Hmmm Sometimes you can forget shit and then something makes you recover it I guess being at SAO didn´t give ya time for being "muh PTSD" and maybe stress and Asuna´s luv (16.5) made him forget it... And maybe that in combination with being concentrated in ALO (being like "gotta save Asuna, gotta save Asuna" ) and the fact that those guys actually received help both phisically and psychologically helped him to bury that But then seeing that laughing coffin symbol, ensign, tatoo, trademark, dickgame, whatever made him be like "muh PTSD" and thus he started to hesitate on killing tho not enough for giving up and letting this Pedophile government Harry Potter like guy to get his hands and stuff.... Maybe it doesn´t sound like the heck of psychological explanations but it could make sense.... .... Whatever Today I am gifting 2x2 feet of Ukrainian soil Maintain this alive and you´ll get some ;D While it's possible to happen, in the form of a story it just comes off as lazy writing. It might as well just be the writer going "he has it because I told you so" which it should be shown to the audience instead by being built up properly. Granted I'm not even blaming the fact that he had PTSD. He should have PTSD given his personality, it's just the way that it's introduced is very lacking. Like an earlier poster said, it should have been ever present ever since he killed Kuradeel. In fact the whole "have sex with me after killing him" would have made complete sense because he would have been wanting comfort from performing the action. However it was played for lawls and none of that was even remotely implied. 16.5... theres actually 16.6 too, lol. |
hyperknees91 said: Rolanddeschain said: Hmmm Sometimes you can forget shit and then something makes you recover it I guess being at SAO didn´t give ya time for being "muh PTSD" and maybe stress and Asuna´s luv (16.5) made him forget it... And maybe that in combination with being concentrated in ALO (being like "gotta save Asuna, gotta save Asuna" ) and the fact that those guys actually received help both phisically and psychologically helped him to bury that But then seeing that laughing coffin symbol, ensign, tatoo, trademark, dickgame, whatever made him be like "muh PTSD" and thus he started to hesitate on killing tho not enough for giving up and letting this Pedophile government Harry Potter like guy to get his hands and stuff.... Maybe it doesn´t sound like the heck of psychological explanations but it could make sense.... .... Whatever Today I am gifting 2x2 feet of Ukrainian soil Maintain this alive and you´ll get some ;D While it's possible to happen, in the form of a story it just comes off as lazy writing. It might as well just be the writer going "he has it because I told you so" which it should be shown to the audience instead. Granted I'm not even blaming the fact that he had PTSD. He should have PTSD given his personality, it's just the way that it's introduced is very lacking. +1 to that... Though I forgive him since Phantom bullet is his 5th, I am not that condescendent on writers when they are on their 6th or 7th story Though it depends... Some people like me like when the writer doesn´t give that much of info to think about it, given that writing is comunicating, you kinda make it two ways like that... But well, I like when stuff is self packaged as well... We won´t actually know till he says when he grows older and checks SAO "Well, I was a lazy bastard and this is why I made this self packaged not that bad wrote SAO" :v |
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hyperknees91 said: Rolanddeschain said: Hmmm Sometimes you can forget shit and then something makes you recover it I guess being at SAO didn´t give ya time for being "muh PTSD" and maybe stress and Asuna´s luv (16.5) made him forget it... And maybe that in combination with being concentrated in ALO (being like "gotta save Asuna, gotta save Asuna" ) and the fact that those guys actually received help both phisically and psychologically helped him to bury that But then seeing that laughing coffin symbol, ensign, tatoo, trademark, dickgame, whatever made him be like "muh PTSD" and thus he started to hesitate on killing tho not enough for giving up and letting this Pedophile government Harry Potter like guy to get his hands and stuff.... Maybe it doesn´t sound like the heck of psychological explanations but it could make sense.... .... Whatever Today I am gifting 2x2 feet of Ukrainian soil Maintain this alive and you´ll get some ;D While it's possible to happen, in the form of a story it just comes off as lazy writing. It might as well just be the writer going "he has it because I told you so" which it should be shown to the audience instead by being built up properly. Granted I'm not even blaming the fact that he had PTSD. He should have PTSD given his personality, it's just the way that it's introduced is very lacking. Like an earlier poster said, it should have been ever present ever since he killed Kuradeel. In fact the whole "have sex with me after killing him" would have made complete sense because he would have been wanting comfort from performing the action. However it was played for lawls and none of that was even remotely implied. you forget two things 1. SAO wasn't over for Kirito when Aincrad was cleared. it was over when he rescued Asuna. meaning he wouldn't get Post traumatic stress in ALO because the event isn't over for him yet. 2. he didn't get this PTSD from kicking people's asses. he got it from being confronted with some1 who reminds him of Laughing coffin. |
| Well yeah, it's good to be subtle, but he wasn't even subtle about it haha. I agree that its good when writers give you details you don't necessarily think about too much at the time, but the details still have to somewhat exist. For example in Monster, it's never implied that Kenzo Tenma has a fear of killing people or anything like that. However given his job and his personality, you know how hard doing something like that would be. This is done without the writer really ever explaining anything or showing any symptoms of being afraid of doing so. This could have been done with SAO as well if say some things were done well. Like him blatantly avoiding attacking people in ALO to, Him losing control while fighting heathcliff mainly because he's afraid of killing him, Him wanting constant comfort from Asuna, etc. It could have been implied without have being said. Here it was most certainly not though. But I'll agree, it's because its his first story more than likely. Even more so because it's a story he is kinda being forced to drag out due to popularity. Therefore he probably just comes up with new content for it without putting much thought into a lot of things. Accel world is of course, much much much better written in comparison so this is most certainly the case. 1. SAO wasn't over for Kirito when Aincrad was cleared. it was over when he rescued Asuna. meaning he wouldn't get Post traumatic stress in ALO because the event isn't over for him yet. 2. he didn't get this PTSD from kicking people's asses. he got it from being confronted with some1 who reminds him of Laughing coffin. 1. That makes no sense. How would that take away from the fact that he killed people, whether he was in aincrad or not, it should have been shown to have some sort of effect on him. That's like saying his guild getting killed wouldn't have an affect on him until after he got out of aincrad. 2. But that's what I'm saying...wouldn't since you know...this is a dude who confuses reality with a game all the time. He "not" enjoy kicking peoples asses and fighting? |
hyperknees91Aug 11, 2014 7:07 PM
hyperknees91 said: Well yeah, it's good to be subtle, but he wasn't even subtle about it haha. I agree that its good when writers give you details you don't necessarily think about too much at the time, but the details still have to somewhat exist. For example in Monster, it's never implied that Kenzo Tenma has a fear of killing people or anything like that. However given his job and his personality, you know how hard doing something like that would be. This is done without the writer really ever explaining anything or showing any symptoms of being afraid of doing so. This could have been done with SAO as well if say some things were done well. Like him blatantly avoiding attacking people in ALO to, Him losing control while fighting heathcliff mainly because he's afraid of killing him, Him wanting constant comfort from Asuna, etc. It could have been implied without have being said. Here it was most certainly not though. But I'll agree, it's because its his first story more than likely. Even more so because it's a story he is kinda being forced to drag out due to popularity. Therefore he probably just comes up with new content for it without putting much thought into a lot of things. Accel world is of course, much much much better written in comparison so this is most certainly the case. 1. SAO wasn't over for Kirito when Aincrad was cleared. it was over when he rescued Asuna. meaning he wouldn't get Post traumatic stress in ALO because the event isn't over for him yet. 2. he didn't get this PTSD from kicking people's asses. he got it from being confronted with some1 who reminds him of Laughing coffin. 1. That makes no sense. How would that take away from the fact that he killed people, whether he was in aincrad or not, it should have been shown to have some sort of effect on him. That's like saying his guild getting killed wouldn't have an affect on him until after he got out of aincrad. 2. But that's what I'm saying...wouldn't since you know...this is a dude who confuses reality with a game all the time. He "not" enjoy kicking peoples asses and fighting? Kirito confused games with reality? wut |
Kirito confused games with reality? wut Quoted several times from him that he thinks your actions in game reflect who you really are. So therefore by his logic...he enjoys beating peoples asses haha. |
hyperknees91 said: Kirito confused games with reality? wut Quoted several times from him that he thinks your actions in game reflect who you really are. So therefore by his logic...he enjoys beating peoples asses haha. Uhhh... ? In my opinion, that quote is just like saying "give a man a mask, and he'll show you who he really is", since noone knows who you are, you're free to act as you want to, red players are just murderers that didn't have the courage to do it irl. |
hyperknees91 said: 1. That makes no sense. How would that take away from the fact that he killed people, whether he was in aincrad or not, it should have been shown to have some sort of effect on him. That's like saying his guild getting killed wouldn't have an affect on him until after he got out of aincrad. no the Stress that he experienced from killing people in game did affect him. you can see how it has affected him in the anime. it's just that it couldn't have been post traumatic stress because the event wasn't over yet. hyperknees91 said: 2. But that's what I'm saying...wouldn't since you know...this is a dude who confuses reality with a game all the time. He "not" enjoy kicking peoples asses and fighting? he doesn't confuse reality w/ virtual, as he knows the difference. i think you are just confused on Kirito's morals on the subject. and also fight people for fun =/= Killing them for real. |
AzuStar said: and also fight people for fun =/= Killing them for real. ^ Basically, in a game like SAO, you DIE if you get killed, then, red players are good people killing for fun? hell, no. They are just murderers, period. Also, most of the fights Kirito had were protecting someone, Kuradeel, Heathcliff's first duel was one hit so it doesn't count, second one... well, saving 4k people? ofc he would do. ALO = no real "death". |
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