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Jun 22, 2014 9:42 AM
#1251
T3hSource said: Then there's that blonde girl- Lillie from Princess Tutu I wanted to horribly murder every time she opened her mouth. I've never seen anyone say they liked that girl. Probably cause the show itself has such a tiny fanbase. If she is beloved then I second this notion because she was the one thing that aggravated me about this show. It wasn't bad enough that she was an annoying little sociopath, but the joke with her was so repetitive. |
Jun 22, 2014 2:35 PM
#1252
I am probably gonna get shot by a loada fan girls for this, but I really don't like Izaya Orihara from Durarara. He's just a prick. Don't get me wrong, his insanity is hilarious to watch, as is his little comedy routine with Shizuo...the show wouldn't be the same without him. But, as a character I just hate him!! There's also Akashi from Kuroko no Basket who everyone seems to like...but he kinda terrifies me with his Yandere eyes and his attitude makes me wanna punch him. Oh yeh, and let's not forget Kirino Kousaka from OreImo....she's just waaaayyy to tsundere for my liking- her constant whining, bitching, and the way she acted towards Kyousuke infuriated me!!! -_- |
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Jun 22, 2014 5:14 PM
#1253
Didn't really hate her, but I didn't really like Mashiro from Sakurasou. I dunno, she seems too much of an idiot to be taken seriously. Momo Deviluke and Kurumi Tokisaki didn't really appeal to me either. I don't hate them, but I don't understand why everybody else likes them either. |
Jun 22, 2014 6:08 PM
#1255
Jun 22, 2014 7:50 PM
#1256
The character I hate the most is Anri Sonohara, the girl with the glasses, in the anime Durarara!! She is so freaking annoying. -.-' |
Jun 22, 2014 8:07 PM
#1257
T3hSource said: MissJaegerjaquez said: Hey at least unlike Nagisa, she has presence on the screen and her OVA wasn't half bad either.Kyou Fujibayashi >.< Now being a typical tsundere bitch is another matter. you mean presence in clannad? cause to be fair, Nagisa's arc doesn't really start until after that show so it would make sense that she would get much screen time. it would be fair to compare Kyou to some1 who has an arc in the show. preferably the silver haired one that also has an OVA. |
Jun 22, 2014 8:23 PM
#1258
Kirito. He's so op for no logical reason, every living thing that has a vagina, fall for him for no logical reason too. |
Jun 22, 2014 8:44 PM
#1259
AzuStar said: T3hSource said: MissJaegerjaquez said: Kyou Fujibayashi >.< Now being a typical tsundere bitch is another matter. you mean presence in clannad? cause to be fair, Nagisa's arc doesn't really start until after that show so it would make sense that she would get much screen time. it would be fair to compare Kyou to some1 who has an arc in the show. preferably the silver haired one that also has an OVA. You mean Tomoyo? Love Tomoyo. Despite Clannad's overarching theme of family in the second season, Tomoyo's OVA is about mutual sacrifice in which couples compensate for one another but ultimately succeed in their passions. |
Jun 22, 2014 8:50 PM
#1260
LegendXV said: AzuStar said: T3hSource said: MissJaegerjaquez said: Hey at least unlike Nagisa, she has presence on the screen and her OVA wasn't half bad either.Kyou Fujibayashi >.< Now being a typical tsundere bitch is another matter. you mean presence in clannad? cause to be fair, Nagisa's arc doesn't really start until after that show so it would make sense that she would get much screen time. it would be fair to compare Kyou to some1 who has an arc in the show. preferably the silver haired one that also has an OVA. You mean Tomoyo? Love Tomoyo. Despite Clannad's overarching theme of family in the second season, Tomoyo's OVA is about mutual sacrifice in which couples compensate for one another but ultimately succeed in their passions. okay. what did you think of Kyou and her ova? also, instead of "despite", do you mean "in contrast to"? |
Jun 23, 2014 3:34 AM
#1261
@AzuStar I mean Kyou had a personality, every time she was on screen you could tell, she keeps your attention and isn't a pacifistic, needy moeblob. I enjoyed her OVA, since the pacing is so much better and laid out straight containing all the drama, hardship and conflict it needed for a decent self-contained teen romance. Same goes for Tomoyo's OVA, but there Tomoyo is even more independent and a stronger, individual character with motivation and ambition getting in the way of her love life. The OVAs were the only things I enjoyed from the Clannad franchise, I'm not going to bother with the 300 hour "solve my problem" sim. I know there's the Toei movie too, but I'm not looking for more moe school romcom now. |
Jun 23, 2014 3:45 AM
#1262
I didn't find Tomoyo or Kyou particularly interesting in the series run. Kyou had presence because her energetic characterization allowed it, not really for consistency merits. The OVAs are a different case in Tomoyo, not really in Kyou for me. Anyway, in terms of character consistency and development, none of them beats Nagisa, who benefits from being the main in that sense. In fact I think that her character development beats Tomoya's in terms of consistency... If only because Tomoya in the first series is a little too erratic. |
Jun 23, 2014 3:57 AM
#1263
T3hSource said: @AzuStar I mean Kyou had a personality, every time she was on screen you could tell, she keeps your attention and isn't a pacifistic, needy moeblob. I enjoyed her OVA, since the pacing is so much better and laid out straight containing all the drama, hardship and conflict it needed for a decent self-contained teen romance. Same goes for Tomoyo's OVA, but there Tomoyo is even more independent and a stronger, individual character with motivation and ambition getting in the way of her love life. The OVAs were the only things I enjoyed from the Clannad franchise, I'm not going to bother with the 300 hour "solve my problem" sim. I know there's the Toei movie too, but I'm not looking for more moe school romcom now. woah, woah... woah. i think plenty of people loved Nagisa for the contrast in her character compared to the other too you've mentioned. besides the small jokes he would in on with tomoyo, she had much calmer atmosphere around her. people would also say that Nagisa is stronger than the other girls since she would strive for things despite her weak health (like acting, graduating from school, taking care of tomoya, giving birth) i'm sorry, but i don't see how not wanting to fight would be a bad thing as i have stated, while she have needed help from being weak in health, she obviously does/tries alot also she clearly had a personality. it may have not been as loud as the other two mentioned, but for a somewhat calmer show, a calm, kind personality should flourish best in this environment. and really? moeblob? as if that doesn't apply to every girl in this show =.= how exactly would the OVA's be the only thing you enjoyed from the series when they are 30 mins centered around girls who were brought up in the original Clannad? if you enjoyed nothing else then you wouldn't have been able to get attached to those girls, meaning those OVA's would be pointless. you would have at least liked episodes that were more focused on those characters first in Clannad. |
Jun 23, 2014 4:00 AM
#1264
Sora & Shiro from NGNL too overpowerd.Even worst than Kirito from SAO.I mean how can people like them if they just win every fight before the game is decided? No effort at all. |
Jun 23, 2014 4:09 AM
#1265
Jun 23, 2014 4:22 AM
#1266
shinonW said: Hisoka. Well I don't know if there are even people who like this disgusting character. i think he's easily top 5 favourite characters for the whole fanbase the only reason i think anyone can hate Hisoka is thinking hes a pedofile and the only reason you could think that is you had your didnt read the subs when he spoke he's badass and creepy havent seen another character like him and if i do it wont be anywhere near as good |
Jun 23, 2014 4:25 AM
#1267
Taiga, ToraDora. Fuck that little bitch. (She gets okay-ish at the end, but I still dislike her) |
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Jun 23, 2014 5:00 AM
#1268
@AzuStar And just because Nagisa is tame and kind, and her just trying is cute enough for everyone doing everything for her. Weak health doesn't excuse a weak personality. Then where do we see all this kindness? The rainy basketball scene and the flashback? That is just plain stupidity for me, making me even less sympathetic of character that is unable to think. Those scenes are clumsy emotional manipulation, which doesn't work if you have a working brain. It is a fact that I couldn't have enjoyed the OVAs as much after the stupidity that was Clannad S1:
Slow as hell pacing, with a small set of jokes on repeat, flat characters, all the moeblobs talk in pauses. THERE IS NO OVERARCHING STORY! Nagisa being glued to Tomoya does not automatically make them a couple. Now the OVAs were short, focused on the drama, characters and to the point, no filler, no pauses, nothing is wasted and most of all they were believable! Again, the high point of the series for me. @Jonux +1 I also don't like this trend of overpowered self-insert protagonists as fantasy empowerment. |
T3hSourceJun 23, 2014 5:04 AM
Jun 23, 2014 5:12 AM
#1269
T3hSource said: @AzuStar And just because Nagisa is tame and kind, and her just trying is cute enough for everyone doing everything for her. Weak health doesn't excuse a weak personality. Then where do we see all this kindness? The rainy basketball scene and the flashback? That is just plain stupidity for me, making me even less sympathetic of character that is unable to think. Those scenes are clumsy emotional manipulation, which doesn't work if you have a working brain. It is a fact that I couldn't have enjoyed the OVAs as much after the stupidity that was Clannad S1:
Slow as hell pacing, with a small set of jokes on repeat, flat characters, all the moeblobs talk in pauses. THERE IS NO OVERARCHING STORY! Nagisa being glued to Tomoya does not automatically make them a couple. Now the OVAs were short, focused on the drama, characters and to the point, no filler, no pauses, nothing is wasted and most of all they were believable! Again, the high point of the series for me. @Jonux +1 I also don't like this trend of overpowered self-insert protagonists as fantasy empowerment. Watch the Movie. (Though Voice actors are differently on Movies usually) |
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Jun 23, 2014 7:55 AM
#1270
Almost all main characters from Kyoani. They look ugly, their expressions are odd and annoying, they behave like retards... I'm remembering those from Hyouka and from Haruhi. |
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Jun 23, 2014 7:58 AM
#1271
StefanHere said: Lol, I guess people really believe Hisoka is sexually attracted to GonshinonW said: Hisoka. Well I don't know if there are even people who like this disgusting character. i think he's easily top 5 favourite characters for the whole fanbase the only reason i think anyone can hate Hisoka is thinking hes a pedofile and the only reason you could think that is you had your didnt read the subs when he spoke he's badass and creepy havent seen another character like him and if i do it wont be anywhere near as good |
Jun 23, 2014 8:34 AM
#1272
T3hSource said: @AzuStar And just because Nagisa is tame and kind, and her just trying is cute enough for everyone doing everything for her. Weak health doesn't excuse a weak personality.[/spoiler] even though i know your exaggerating. i don't how everyone doing everything for her would equal to a weak personality >.> [qoute=T3Source] Then where do we see all this kindness? The rainy basketball scene and the flashback? That is just plain stupidity for me, making me even less sympathetic of character that is unable to think. Those scenes are clumsy emotional manipulation, which doesn't work if you have a working brain. boy :l i mean its okay if you felt nothing but dang... did you really just insinuate that anyone is "duped" doesn't have a working brain? wow. anyways, you pretty much answered your own question. if they are where the kindness is shown, then that where it is. simple logic. T3hSource said: It is a fact that I couldn't have enjoyed the OVAs as much after the stupidity that was Clannad S1: T3hSource said: Fuko arc is just stupid and contrived, Fuko herself is just waaaaay too autistic making me want to murder her, well... she was kinda... not in the right state of mind e.e also please don't throw around contrived as though that's suppose to sum it up. if ANY part of the reason you feel the arc was contrived was because it had supernatural elements, then that's on YOU, since it was always aiming that way. (also loving how you want to kill the impaired) T3hSource said: Kotomi arc has the the same problems, autistic moeblob with no personality and a very poorly handled tragic backstory, which is supposed to pull your heart strings. well obviously they did pull on your heart strings, would help explain how you feel betrayed at the end. now explain how her back story was handle poorly, again supernatural problems on YOU, (anime in TAGGED with that btw) T3hSource said: The harem filler was just gag comedy, having all the girls cling the Tomoya was just annoying. and? T3hSource said: Nagisa's arc, finally the writing improves, but the payoff was just too over dramatic and borderline absurd. Oh and the sudden hook up out of nowhere, yay they're together now! And yet... we haven't seen them express feelings for one another in any scene... perfect romance so let me get this straight... you think them hooking up was over-dramatic... correct? (also, yes even in Nagisa's arc they never express feelings for each other, riiiiiiiiiight) [quote=T3hSource] Slow as hell pacing, with a small set of jokes on repeat, flat characters, all the moeblobs talk in pauses. THERE IS NO OVERARCHING STORY! Nagisa being glued to Tomoya does not automatically make them a couple.[/spoiler] again, yes there IS an overarching story e.e read this thread. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=489977 and you should understand by now that Nagisa's calm atmosphere is exactly what Tomoya would want considering he isn't quite stable, especially with his dad. being with her just made him want to be with her EVEN more. and of course, Tomoya constantly paying attention and helping nagisa throughout the show would obviously help make Tomoya look "good" in Nagisa's eyes. T3hSource said: Now the OVAs were short, focused on the drama, characters and to the point, no filler, no pauses, nothing is wasted and most of all they were believable! Again, the high point of the series for me. do i really have to spell it out of for you? notice how you neglected to include Tomoyo AND Kyou in your complaints on the show. clearly you LIKED them in the show, so you could actually LIKEED their ova's more. THEY and the MANY parts of clannad (and the entirely of after story besides the ending) are the parts you LIKED. the only real reason to feel to rage about this show (that makes sense) is that you feel betrayed by the ending. gosh =.= |
Jun 23, 2014 8:46 AM
#1273
i'm mean yea, i can see the clannad w/o AF isn't quite that strong and i understand that many people have problems with it but DUUUUUUUUUDE.... you need to calm down... ALL i'm getting from this is that the ending of Clannad AF felt like betrayal and significantly affect your feelings towards the whole thing. e.e |
AzuStarJun 23, 2014 8:51 AM
Jun 23, 2014 8:50 AM
#1274
Chitoge. I really didn't like her in the beginning of Nisekoi, but I guess my hatred for her died down a little. I still really enjoyed Nisekoi, I just thought Chitoge was annoying. |
Jun 23, 2014 11:45 AM
#1275
No offence to all you guys who love all this moe harem ecchi cr*p, but literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON (and I know some of you will reply saying "... no" because you think you're all that) who watches, has watched, or will watch moe/crap romance/ecchi anime LOVES their characters. I'm sorry, but their models are exactly the same. Let's take a look at a typical harem anime. Boy meets girl only for a short time. Either a) is a transfer student to a new school where girl is, or b) girl is transfer student to his school. Boy is perfect with no flaws, girl has stupid gravity defying pink/blue/green hair. More girls fall in life with Boy FOR NO REASON. Oh, apart from the fact that he's perfect, oblivious, and a complete ********. Can any of you really say that you like this stuff? My least favourite type of character is..... Perfect male leads is harem anime. Sorry if you took that as offence, and that it wasn't a particular character, but hey. |
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Jun 23, 2014 11:50 AM
#1276
Lelouch from Code Geass. They try to make him out to be this intricate genius but barely anything he does is even remotely intelligent or impressive. Then on top of that CG tries to take the shortcut and cop out with the whole "he's a genius" thing by giving Lelouch all-access to the story's script so now despite all logic or reason saying there's no possible way for him to know certain things all it takes is "as I suspected, as I predicted, as I expected, etc." to suddenly back up that he's supposedly brilliant... |
Jun 23, 2014 11:50 AM
#1277
jayss said: StefanHere said: Lol, I guess people really believe Hisoka is sexually attracted to GonshinonW said: Hisoka. Well I don't know if there are even people who like this disgusting character. i think he's easily top 5 favourite characters for the whole fanbase the only reason i think anyone can hate Hisoka is thinking hes a pedofile and the only reason you could think that is you had your didnt read the subs when he spoke he's badass and creepy havent seen another character like him and if i do it wont be anywhere near as good You mean he isn't? Schwing! |
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Jun 23, 2014 1:04 PM
#1278
yang wenli - lotgh revy - black lagoon ed - cowboy bebop saber fate/ I find all of them annoying. |
Jun 25, 2014 8:56 AM
#1279
Jun 25, 2014 9:40 AM
#1280
@AzuStar First 14 episodes of Clannad were just unbearable for me, I've expressed my feelings why. Then it improves, but as a slice of life show it's just boring and whatever engagement I had is lost by this point, because the characters are so bland. The comedic skits were just there to hold my attention, but I didn't find them quite interesting or funny, not to mention they were all on repeat. And ofc the ending affected my feelings on the whole thing, or more specifically he adult Tomoya arc, because that's exactly what it affected the most. It ruined the only reason I was watching with any sort of interest. I really wanted to relate to Tomoya, to see him as realistic, believable, developed human character. But no, here's the happy wish fulfillment escapism ending we've been building under the table all this time. I told you what I was expecting and no amount of "oh, it's explained why and you should have never thought anything else" is going to change my disappointment. The only reason why I've rated After Story above S1 is just because we got out of high school and started something good. I like Tomoya, hate the story, Kyou was your typical tsundere, but that's still better than your moeblob paper cutout. And the romance triangle with her sister made for good drama. |
T3hSourceJun 25, 2014 3:55 PM
Jun 25, 2014 2:44 PM
#1281
Champloo_Remix said: Lelouch from Code Geass. They try to make him out to be this intricate genius but barely anything he does is even remotely intelligent or impressive. Then on top of that CG tries to take the shortcut and cop out with the whole "he's a genius" thing by giving Lelouch all-access to the story's script so now despite all logic or reason saying there's no possible way for him to know certain things all it takes is "as I suspected, as I predicted, as I expected, etc." to suddenly back up that he's supposedly brilliant... And do what you think about "L"? He actually does the same thing... "As expected Kira do X thing"... |
Jun 27, 2014 4:04 AM
#1282
T3hSource said: @AzuStar First 14 episodes of Clannad were just unbearable for me, I've expressed my feelings why. Then it improves, but as a slice of life show it's just boring and whatever engagement I had is lost by this point, because the characters are so bland. The comedic skits were just there to hold my attention, but I didn't find them quite interesting or funny, not to mention they were all on repeat. And ofc the ending affected my feelings on the whole thing, or more specifically he adult Tomoya arc, because that's exactly what it affected the most. It ruined the only reason I was watching with any sort of interest. I really wanted to relate to Tomoya, to see him as realistic, believable, developed human character. But no, here's the happy wish fulfillment escapism ending we've been building under the table all this time. I told you what I was expecting and no amount of "oh, it's explained why and you should have never thought anything else" is going to change my disappointment. The only reason why I've rated After Story above S1 is just because we got out of high school and started something good. I like Tomoya, hate the story, Kyou was your typical tsundere, but that's still better than your moeblob paper cutout. And the romance triangle with her sister made for good drama. Spoilers for entire Clannad series. After Nagisa died, I thought Tomoya would get together with Kyou, and she was already on good terms with Ushio so that was a plus too. It would have worked even better if they got together after Ushio also died. Kyou would've been there to support him, pull him out of the grief and depression, and eventually he'd warm up to her and learn to let go of the past. That would have made a much more believable ending, instead of the magical cop-out of an ending we got. |
Jun 27, 2014 4:16 AM
#1283
@Vhailor I wouldn't mind if it ended with Tomoya's suicide, that would've made a much better ending with all the emotional gut punches this throws at you. But to keep with the light heartedness, having Kyou taking out Tomoya out of his depression and establishing a new family would make for quite a just as good of an ending, maybe not happy, but at least bittersweet. Showing that no matter our loss and grief the world still accepts us no matter what we've experienced, so much better the the wish fulfillment: "Everything's fine, because it never happened" ending. |
Jun 27, 2014 4:30 AM
#1284
Jun 27, 2014 5:16 AM
#1286
T3hSource said: @Vhailor I wouldn't mind if it ended with Tomoya's suicide, that would've made a much better ending with all the emotional gut punches this throws at you. But to keep with the light heartedness, having Kyou taking out Tomoya out of his depression and establishing a new family would make for quite a just as good of an ending, maybe not happy, but at least bittersweet. Showing that no matter our loss and grief the world still accepts us no matter what we've experienced, so much better the the wish fulfillment: "Everything's fine, because it never happened" ending. Yeah, suicide would've been the logical and much more realistic outcome. |
Jun 29, 2014 6:00 PM
#1287
cambot1337 said: Sasuke uchiha I hate him too, he is stuck up as hell, selfish, seems almost completely consumed with bloodlust, and not to mention crazy as fuck. |
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Jul 9, 2014 2:12 AM
#1288
noodlehead111 said: cambot1337 said: Sasuke uchiha I hate him too, he is stuck up as hell, selfish, seems almost completely consumed with bloodlust, and not to mention crazy as fuck. Itachi isn't that much better than Sasuke but at least he realized that he went off the deep end unlike Sasuke. |
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Jul 9, 2014 3:03 AM
#1289
Haruhi Suzumiya and Asuka. I believe these two are one of the greatest bitches in anime and I have no idea why people would find them appealing. |
if we die we'll meet again in valhalla... |
Jul 9, 2014 9:01 AM
#1290
Gin from Bleach for obvious reasons, people who haven't reached the point When Gin dies trying to kill Aizen |
Raise it up, raise up the happiness. |
Jul 9, 2014 9:43 AM
#1291
Vhailor said: T3hSource said: @Vhailor I wouldn't mind if it ended with Tomoya's suicide, that would've made a much better ending with all the emotional gut punches this throws at you. But to keep with the light heartedness, having Kyou taking out Tomoya out of his depression and establishing a new family would make for quite a just as good of an ending, maybe not happy, but at least bittersweet. Showing that no matter our loss and grief the world still accepts us no matter what we've experienced, so much better the the wish fulfillment: "Everything's fine, because it never happened" ending. Yeah, suicide would've been the logical and much more realistic outcome. I would rate Clannad AS a 10/10 if either of those senarios happened. I also would have rated Oreimo ending 9 or 10 if Kyousuke and Kirino somehow stayed together and didn't just go back to normal (which in my mind invalidated many events season 2 specials). yeah endings of a series can have a huge impact on how you view them |
Jul 9, 2014 9:52 AM
#1292
Obito from Naruto, he was built up as this mysterious figure trying to put the world in an infinite genjutsu and when his identity was revealed, we finally find out his motives and the reason he was doing all this was because the girl he liked died And by extension Madara as well, just because of how ridiculously OP Kishimoto made him for no reason than just because. Which of course led to Kishi writing himself into a corner which he saw the only way to get out of was to kill Madara with a cheap shot and bringing in someone even more powerful than Madara, because the only way to defeat an OP character is to bring an even more OP character from nowhere to fight, that makes perfect sense /sarc |
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Jul 9, 2014 9:53 AM
#1293
Jul 9, 2014 9:54 AM
#1294
I hate Sora and Shiro from No Game No Life. |
Jul 9, 2014 10:01 AM
#1295
MrGoldiii said: Gin from Bleach for obvious reasons, people who haven't reached the point When Gin dies trying to kill Aizen Why would you hate him for that? It should be like the opposite. |
Jul 9, 2014 10:03 AM
#1296
Issei from Highschool DxD is an irritating cunt. I've got nothing against Yuki Kaiji but he is intolerable in that show. As much as I despise the usual harem leads, I really have trouble understanding how a beta sexual deviant is any better than a beta closet fag. Actually, I probably dislike him even more than someone like Ichika. |
SeibaaHomuJul 9, 2014 10:06 AM
Jul 9, 2014 10:08 AM
#1297
I dunno if anyone likes her but i really can't stand Hinata Hyuga. She's kind of pathetic. |
Jul 9, 2014 10:20 AM
#1298
L from Death Note. He's a shallow character with a few gimmicks. |
Jul 9, 2014 1:09 PM
#1299
natsu hes a big rip-off off luffy and yet people just don't seem to care |
Jul 9, 2014 1:10 PM
#1300
Light Yagami Since he killed L |
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