Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 130 Discussion

Kuchenlight said:
Worst episode of Hunter X Hunter in a long time.
Gon getting all desperate dragged on way too long, with flashbacks that had no purpose at all and him repeating stuff all the time, which didn't help the atmosphere in the least.

jreginald said:


It was better done in the manga. But like I've said before, I'd rather they did this than match the manga's pacing and cut off the shit that's about to go down.

Kuchenlight said:


I totally agree. Ending it where they did, was the best choice.
Doesn't change that I'm disappointed by it though. :|

Kuchenlight said:
Worst episode of Hunter X Hunter in a long time.
Gon getting all desperate dragged on way too long, with flashbacks that had no purpose at all and him repeating stuff all the time, which didn't help the atmosphere in the least.

SuperRed said:
So manga readers, which ost do you think would you like to be used next episode?

Raticate said:

jreginald said:


But they adapted some important scenes rather well. For example, Gon's breakdown ("It was my fault -- NO! It was Pitou's!"). MrAM's post explains it better than I can but they really did a good job in emphasizing the duality of emotions that was in Gon at that moment.

I think they executed a lot of things rather well. The flashbacks were just filler, yeah, but I'm not sure of what else they could have done without dragging the story.

Gutsa said:
i just dont understand why not more strong fighters are showing up, with the world at stake you'd think this is important enough for Gon's father to help out a bit.

Maybe I'm seeing past something?

Gutsa said:
i just dont understand why not more strong fighters are showing up, with the world at stake you'd think this is important enough for Gon's father to help out a bit.

Maybe I'm seeing past something?

Raticate said:
^ Haven't watched Jojo yet, but I think the Nen abilities are consistent with what we have seen in previous arcs. Kastro summoning and manipulating a clone, Kortopi cloning whatever he touches, Shizuku's nightmarish vacuum and Chrollo's in-door fish are as extravagant as anything we have seen in this arc, which most extravagant ability I think is Cheetuh's with his tag game thing.

Also remember that usually the seemingly random rules are set up to increase the Nen ability power, as stated when Kurapika's chain is introduced.

Kellhus said:
Is anyone else getting a Jojo's Bizarre Adventure/Stands vibe with the Chimera Ant powers? In the beginning of this series they take Nen so seriously and try to explain it in a way in which makes it seem like it's truly grounded in the reality of the HxH universe. But the Chimera Ant abilities sometime around the palace invasion part are basically just "here's my completely random power and it just works like this for no reason", which kind of reminds me of Stands. The cat even has an avatar power and calls it out exactly like a Stand.

Not a bad thing really but it's something strange I noticed in the past few eps and it just doesn't really feel sensible in the context of earlier arcs.

jreginald said:
Where were you when Bisky called out her stupid masseuse? Or when Neon Nostrade unconsciously summoned that Nen ghost that wrote accurate fortunes for her?

Kellhus said:
Admittedly I haven't studied the hunterpedia in depth and don't have a scholar's knowledge of Nen, I'm just going by what I recall.

insan3Spectre said:
I wonder if Killua will try to make it there in time to help Gon. But, I don't know if he could make it in time. In fact, I'm honestly not sure what is going to happen here. It's definitely time for Gon vs. Pitou, though.

duckduckshark said:
For some reason, I don't think Pitou is going to attack Gon. His personality changed. He's a lot more empathetic ever since he had to save Komugi's life for the King. He has a sense of morals now. I don't think they will begin fighting until much later.

Or I could just be completely wrong. :(

Trembllar said:
Does anyone remember how Pitou's arm got damaged in the first place? Was it the attack from Netero?

MShukyDeneuve said:
Additionally, Pouf ability to split himself is most likely a Transmuter type of Hatsu.
And it already explained that that ability carried a huge risk, he become much weaker in every aspect like power, speed, and durability.
If you destroy his "real" body, he will die.
It explained a lot.

SaSa-Zoldyck said:

I never understood why his beelzebub is seen as transmuter ability..Manipulation makes more sense.

MShukyDeneuve said:

Well, i agree with your confusion as well. But after i seen Ikalgo's ability to shoot flea -> change his hand to be more gun-like(which is also transmuter), It makes sense that Beelzebub is also transmuter type ability. Coincidentally, Ikalgo's main Hatsu is also Manipulation type.

If i try to interpret it, He most likely uses his aura to mimic a small version of himself at the cost of his own body degradation.
That small version of himself will become representation of his own cell and can act itself with Pouf control.(on category of vows, maybe) which is mean it is a weakness since eliminating the cell will damage Pouf as well.

Yeah, this is new. Because all transmuter ability we have seen before it is just like Gum, Threads, Dragon-like aura, etc.

SaSa-Zoldyck said:

I never understood why his beelzebub is seen as transmuter ability..Manipulation makes more sense.

Gutsa said:
What proof is there that Pitou is a boy? Her voice, looks and overall allure feels feminine to me. (this is gonna backfire :p)

Guilek said:
Killua said Neferpitou look a like a mother protecting a child.

SaSa-Zoldyck said:

Still it doesn't make sense. Manipulators and Transmuters are opposite on the diagram. Pouf and Ikalgo have 40% efficiency for transmuters ability. I highly doubt that a person like Pouf who helps other ants find suitable hatsu's would make such error on his own ability. Illumi can change his whole body for 4 or 5 hours and that is classified as a manipulation. Beelzebub is kinda similar to Razor's 14 devils and that one is Emission and Manipulation. Which makes more sense.

MShukyDeneuve said:


It is true they have 40% efficiency, that's why those ability arguably weak and hold huge weakness. I can't say it frankly pouf's flaw, but even cheetuh's ability is so weak despite he guided by Pouf. It most likely according to user wish as well, like cheetuh want a tag game, Pouf guided him and finally found his own Hatsu, but of course he set his own rule what kind of ability it is and what the effect, Cheetuh is so shallow that it makes him fail even under Pouf guide.

So let's take on Pouf case, probably after that spiritual massage, he also want a surveillance ability which can makes allow him move everywhere without easily being seen by others. Create a copy of himself would fall under conjurer type and arguably harder to use because it is defies what surveillance means.

Beelzebub and 14 devils is so much different. the former is created with own self cell degradation and the later is created by just aura. Which is Beelzebub hold too much risk(this is obvious because of 40% efficiency). On serious note, i will be really surprised if Beelzebub falls under Manipulation type because with the huge risk it holds, it is a bad joke a 100% manipulation would create a fragile ability like that, and it is Pouf we are talking about)

Illumi's ability to change face is same as Pouf ability's which also to change his appearance to Komugi. Manipulation ability. Of course it also need special requirement to use it.
If i can speculate it, probably Illumi still need the needle to change his appearance. Next, he pull out the needle but hold the face change so it will not change back right away.

It is seems more logical about Beelzebub a manipulation type though. But as i said before, with everything we have seen so far, possibility of it falls under transmuter type also can't be write off.

keragamming said:
I refuse to believe that Pitou is a "HE" Pitou is a girl.

duckduckshark said:
For some reason, I don't think Pitou is going to attack Gon. His personality changed. He's a lot more empathetic ever since he had to save Komugi's life for the King. He has a sense of morals now. I don't think they will begin fighting until much later.

Or I could just be completely wrong. :(

jreginald said:

However, Pitou's gender in the anime is very ambiguous -- Togashi's weird like that. Palm actually referred to Pitou as "it". And Pitou's bodily features point to that of a girl's. But yeah, could very well be a guy.

SaSa-Zoldyck said:
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ichii_1 said:
^ how? when I'm just stating something that's been said in the series :(

MShukyDeneuve said:




I had a thought that restriction is used to makes thing more easy, because Transmuter is only 40%. take for example if he did not make the "cell" rule, he might ended up like Kastro. You see Kastro use Hatsu that on the opposite of his natural type -> Double. Even though it's effeciency is low, he forced it all the way. That ability too easy to use despite it's efficiency and ended up take too much concentration which can easily affect his mental status. Yet Pouf is smart, he uses that restriction to his advantage.

And it is probably true that Beelzebub requires much aura to use, But that become nothing cause RG have a huge amount of it.

And about Pouf clone, i wonder if with En or Gyo we can detect the real one. If so, than that will be a huge weakness.

And yes, i never read it officially stated in databook or something. So there is a chance for error. Probably the one who wrote it have a good reason for it, i don't know.