DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| Haha great episode. Best anti-smoking campaign material ever. And Kate rallying the people was awesome as usual. I don't have anything against smokers but I really can't stand it when people just smoke wherever they want even when there are already designated smoking zones for them. Like when I'm waiting for the bus or taking a stroll, I'm like "got to get upwind!" And that restaurant scene happens a lot in real life. Smoking in a small dining area while people are still eating...disgusting. Even when there's a smoking area, I can't count how many times I've pointed out to someone that he's sitting in the non-smoking area. Ugh. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| I'm guessing the people who "hated" this episode are smokers... I'm glad A1 is doing good for society. I thought they were just out to sell merchandise and cater to otaku but maybe I was wrong. |
| since when where "surface-to-air weapon" dropped form planes? |
| A little dumb and a bit of an overreaction at times, but still an anti-smoking episode is great. |
| all this because of cigarettes.. sort of ridiculous |
 |
| That escalated quickly. Smokers have no human souls huh. Well, I hate smoking too myself, so I can relate to the parodied material here. |
| What a scary loli Jokes aside, it was great ep, mainly because I share the same opinion about smoking in public, but not that extreme lol |
| Man it has to be the most interesting episode I've seen in winter 2014. Love this anime.. |
| Wonder how smokers felt about this episode. Lol... |
Paul said: Wonder how smokers felt about this episode. Lol... Smokers don't have souls. They didn't "feel" anything. |
| As someone who quit smoking just like four months ago I completely agree with the point that smoking is a generally filthy, smelly addiction and thus supposedly bad. But turning a whole episode into anti-smoking campaign is just lame. Did anyone ever told the director that negative advertisement is still an advertisement? If smoking is not acceptable in PG-13 rated show so be it, but wouldn't it be just better to pretend smoking does not exist in given world? Don't give children ideas about filthy habits if you won't want them to pick them up as they would definitely try it out first and think about it later. And in case of smoking (and any other addiction) it's always better not to start in the first place :-) Nuff said. I still like the show but i sincerely hope they will skip educational part next time. |
| Signature removed. It was too good for this cruel world. |
| i hated this episode, it is stupid and unreasonable.... i am a smoker and i feel a bit offended by this episode if smoking is that easy to quit like what non-smokers think i would have quited it long ago 1/5 |
| Wow, what about this propaganda? D: Great episode, even though I feel like the quality kinda lowered. I feel sorry for the smokers now. |
 |
| Brilliant... just fucking brilliant! It's even more awesome that so many people (mostly smokers) were offended by this episode lol.. I love how they take a simple message (don't smoke) and tell it in a way that will actually pique the interest of whoever is watching (instead of you know, the usual anti-smoking campaign). They may have exaggerated on their action but then again this is an anime that pushes the boundaries of what's right or wrong from the first episode. The main characters aren't even heroes, they're supposedly the villains of this world. You can't blame them for taking such a drastic action. |
 |
| Dat loli would definitely wanna smoke one after I finished her in bed ;D |
| I am falling, I am fading, I am drowning, help me to breathe. |
| Well not a smoker here and I can't stand the smell of smoke (choke). Hate it when others smoke however not to the point to embrace this episode. However, this episode was very uncomfortable to watch because it went into the black & white protrayal of smokers.. up to a point where it looks like propaganda. Whatever message it was trying to convey, it was not good and I didn't find this funny. This episode is just wrong. Really bad taste. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I hate smokers more than anything, but this episode was retarded and awful. I seriously skipped midway thru to the end to see if their was a cliffhanger or something important not to miss. 1/5 |
 |
Ajunky said: wakka9ca said: Can't help but agree, and I hate smoke too. This makes me think the writer has a deep trauma.This episode is just wrong. Really bad taste. Still, some smokers are real a**h****, as some posts here remind me. No that this justifies wasting an episode on such a dull issue. I have more of a problem with the way the issue was handled in this episode. I really make me uneasy because it reminds me too much of hate propaganda. Maybe it's just me or time have changed. I'm surprised a lot of users here are OK with this kind of message. In any case, resorting to violence to solve the issue is not the way of doing things. The first part was OK. Playing pranks and putting water on the smokers is fine. However, having mobs beat down smokers and declaring that smokers are not human and should be exterminated is too much. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
na35899 said: i am a smoker and i feel a bit offended by this episode It was just a joke. na35899 said: if smoking is that easy to quit like what non-smokers think i would have quited it long ago Nobody said quitting was easy, but the smart choice would be not to smoke in the first place. |
| I wanna join them cause eliminate those smokers. |
| wow this was great. hopefully a smoker or two will quite thanks to our lovely loli and our protagonist's teachings. 11x the poison from smoke for second hand smokers. that's simply horrific. unfortunately, most pro smokers are too delved into it and simply dismiss this anime as ridiculous, when it is a reflection of the world though more extreme. regardless, I'm impressed to learn and watch anime at the same time. one day, I wish all textbooks be made into anime (1000 years after my death:P?) |
 |
| Well she definitely has a thing against smoking :O Her transformation sequence was awesome especially since she had help :3 Briefcase tea set, awe yeah. That lighter really is cool. Yasu has been exiled. He threw Yasu right into the bomb, that was hilarious :D He still didn't quit after all that XD Smokers Conquered... not quite :P Great ep, I wonder how any smokers felt while watching it? |
ganjafarmer420 said: LoL I can't believe what I just saw! And all these comments here! Seriously! The arguments used in this episode against smokers s*ck*d really hard. 1 - Where I live its illegal to smoke in restaurants and I believe its the same for most countries. Dunno about Japan though. It's called courtesy/common sense and a lot of people don't have them. 2 - If smokers are smoking in a corner of a street you won't smell the smoke unless you you join them. You shouldn't smoke while walking in the middle of the street - That's called RESPECT. Smoking cigarettes/tobacco is disrespectful to me and others and it's courtesy. 3 - There are ALOT of things you can smoke besides tobacco. No one ever got cancer or died from smoking cannabis and its been used by humans for more than 4000 years. Making all smokers look the same its a disrespect of the size of the world! Being a cannabis smoker myself I felt way too much offended the entire episode and for no reason because the idiot of the author was just thinking about tobacco! Japan as no sense whatsoever about the cannabis culture. It's specifically about smoking tobacco/cigarettes not other stuff, did you see another substance this episode. 4 - If a tobacco smoker is respectful towards others, who the hell are you to tell him to stop smoking? I am sure there is not a single idiot who smokes tobacco and doesn't know about its harmful effects. Its his choice, he is not letting you feel the smoke so deal with it. Unnecessary pollution is my problem, respectful or not. 5 - The cigarette smoke pollutes the air?! Funny, I guess factories do not release smoke huh?! Even a small wild fire produces much more smoke than millions of smokers combined! The factories contribute something to humanity/society, cigarettes don't. 6 - Why do people think people start smoking because they want to look like bad boys? I know alot of tobacco smokers and only a few of them started smoking for such reason. There are alot of unlucky people in the world you know? They have the right to deal with their problems the way they choose to if they do not disturb others. That's why there is cannabis/weed and other things to take/do and tobacco does disturb me. (see 5 and 7) 7 - The ONLY argument you CAN use against a tobacco smoker is that his sons will have a very high chance of being born with ASTHMA! That's why it should be illegal for women under 50 (and also for man to be a fair law) to smoke tobacco. Smells,ruins the environment (air and trash), causes health problems and kills people (for both users and non users) Smokers are not uman and should die.. 8 - The amount of ignorance and disrespect shown in this episode is at the level of Reefer Madness 1936! I NEVER expected to see this kind of thing in an ANIME. Really really really disappointing! As you can see I am not a tobacco smoker, plus I am against tobacco as well. However if you want to debate about something you need to know what you are talking about, show respect and use logic. None of that happened in this episode. Also sorry for my awful english, its 3am and english is my third language. This is logical and the truth if you can't handle it, it's your fault and what does being an ANIME have to do with anything. 9 - DROPPED. See you next week. |
 |
| This was so funny :D |
| Well I guess Kate really is a BAMF hahaha |
| I loved this ep. Some people here need to chillax. |
 |
| Liked the idea of escalating a loli's pet peeve into martial law. Funny stuff. Helps that I find smoking to be rather annoying myself |
 |
| this episode was really boring.. anime has great potential but they just wasted it and made some filler-slice of life boring ep now.. love that anime and style but NOT this STUPID idea of a "story progress" if u can even call it progress |
 |
wakka9ca said: ^having mobs beat down smokers and declaring that smokers are not human and should be exterminated is too much. |
|
More topics from this board
Poll: » Sekai Seifuku: Bouryaku no Zvezda Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - Mar 29, 2014 |
154 |
by piskop15666
»»
Feb 1, 11:55 AM |
|
Poll: » Sekai Seifuku: Bouryaku no Zvezda Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - Jan 11, 2014 |
183 |
by Randomg259
»»
Jul 31, 2024 9:23 AM |
|
Poll: » second SeaonDrFluffyUnicorn - Mar 29, 2014 |
23 |
by Loli-Knight
»»
Mar 28, 2024 5:21 PM |
|
Poll: » Sekai Seifuku: Bouryaku no Zvezda Episode 11 Discussion ( 1 2 )Stark700 - Mar 22, 2014 |
56 |
by Karva1
»»
Jan 16, 2024 8:52 PM |
|
Poll: » Sekai Seifuku: Bouryaku no Zvezda Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 )Stark700 - Mar 8, 2014 |
69 |
by Karva1
»»
Jan 16, 2024 8:36 PM |