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Nov 5, 2013 10:18 PM

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IMO....Mikasa's abs are an urban legend at this point.

NO ONE has ever seen them in the actual manga or anime, it's only OUTSIDE where we have a few crappy drawings.

It doesn't count IMO.
Nov 5, 2013 10:18 PM

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No, I wouldn't. I like animes where the girl takes over the funny dominant roll like Misaki Ayuzawa or Anissina von Karbelnikoff, but muscular appearance wise? No thank you.
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Nov 5, 2013 10:32 PM
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So I did some Googling onto Mikasa's abs since it's been the talk of this thread, and yeah, that's exactly what I mean by my description. This is basically the perfect example of making a physically powerful woman, while maintaining some sex appeal. For a basis of what to expect, this is what I mean. Would you want to see more characters in the same physical condition as Mikasa?
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DramaEnthusiast said:
So I did some Googling onto Mikasa's abs since it's been the talk of this thread, and yeah, that's exactly what I mean by my description. This is basically the perfect example of making a physically powerful woman, while maintaining some sex appeal. For a basis of what to expect, this is what I mean. Would you want to see more characters in the same physical condition as Mikasa?


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Nov 5, 2013 10:42 PM

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OK....just so people know, I think there has only been 2 official drawings by the mangaka showing Mikasa with abs and NEITHER picture is exactly "good":

http://i.imgur.com/BQsTk0o.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ABDhXrM.jpg

^Aside from this....I'm pretty sure we never saw Mikasa's abs in the actual manga story and we DEFINITELY did NOT see it in the anime.


ALTHOUGH....there was an "official" anime artwork with Mikasa's abs which are a bit better than the mangaka's two drawings:

http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/b4438a95356d548dca029c7d9d1f61771370697749_full.jpg
Nov 5, 2013 10:45 PM

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I dont want them to be creating muscular female leads, but give them some definition to the muscles. Especially shounen anime and manga. How the hell you gonna make a female lead so strong physically, but her body appears to be as soft like wet tissue?

I know anime is not real and all that other shit people spout, but come on seriously.
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JustALEX said:
OK....just so people know, I think there has only been 2 official drawings by the mangaka showing Mikasa with abs and NEITHER picture is exactly "good":

http://i.imgur.com/BQsTk0o.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ABDhXrM.jpg

^Aside from this....I'm pretty sure we never saw Mikasa's abs in the actual manga story and we DEFINITELY did NOT see it in the anime.


ALTHOUGH....there was an "official" anime artwork with Mikasa's abs which are a bit better than the mangaka's two drawings:

http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/b4438a95356d548dca029c7d9d1f61771370697749_full.jpg

That last picture is perfect. You have Mikasa to compare with what appears to be a blonde girl with no muscles, and just plain cute.
Nov 6, 2013 5:38 AM

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I don't really mind it, as long as the artist doesn't go overboard with it and make her into freaking Hercules or something. I don't even like most overly muscled male characters, Guts being the first notable exception because there is far more to his character than muscles. Saying that, I guess I wouldn't even have a problem with a female character like that if she has something more to offer than just being muscle bound.

That said, there are a few female characters out there who have muscles. She's not huge or anything, but Casca from Berserk is a good example. Apparantly Mikasa from SnK as well.
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Nov 6, 2013 5:44 AM
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yeeeaaaah fuck no, huge turn-off -.-
Nov 6, 2013 6:49 AM

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Insan3Heisenberg said:
I don't really mind it, as long as the artist doesn't go overboard with it and make her into freaking Hercules or something. I don't even like most overly muscled male characters, Guts being the first notable exception because there is far more to his character than muscles. Saying that, I guess I wouldn't even have a problem with a female character like that if she has something more to offer than just being muscle bound.

That said, there are a few female characters out there who have muscles. She's not huge or anything, but Casca from Berserk is a good example. Apparantly Mikasa from SnK as well.


Altough given how ridiculous Guts training and fighting is Id go as far as to say he looks realistic without using any steroids or anything.
Nov 6, 2013 6:52 AM

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I wouldn't want to see a female with muscles like Guts..
Nov 6, 2013 6:59 AM

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Oh,hell no...that's too much...girls shouldn't look like that...
Nov 6, 2013 7:12 AM

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Ulquiorra1923 said:


Oh,hell no...that's too much...girls shouldn't look like that...

Normal ones, yes, but we are talking about warriors, the kind that could rip you in two with their bare hands.
Nov 6, 2013 7:16 AM

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baki502 said:
Ulquiorra1923 said:


Oh,hell no...that's too much...girls shouldn't look like that...

Normal ones, yes, but we are talking about warriors, the kind that could rip you in two with their bare hands.


Hm,if i thing about it i don't really know any muscular anime girl..of course there are a lot of strong ones like Hilda from Beelzebub,Mikasa from SnK and others as well..girls don't really need too much muscle to be strong in anime.
Nov 6, 2013 7:17 AM

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I wouldn't hate it but i would prefer moe cute girl any day
I think Mikasa was good
Nov 6, 2013 12:03 PM

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They don't need to be super huge but looking like they can actually wield the weapons they use would be nice. Mikasa is a good example, so is Casca and the Major from Ghost in the Shell (not as much in stand alone complex though).

I feel this way even about non-anime female characters though. Skinny waifs as action heros just don't work for me.
Nov 6, 2013 12:45 PM

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baki502 said:
Kruszer said:
Not really interested in seeing female body builders like Undine from Claymore, but I would take some females with normal female muscle definition.

I like her character. Not exactly phisically appealing but do they always have to be? Id also like to see some battlescars on them. Need more battlescars in anime, especially dynamic ones. Always wondered how they got injured without having scars afterwards, when the smallest cut possible in my face left a noticable scar to me.


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Nov 6, 2013 12:55 PM

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JustALEX said:
OK....just so people know, I think there has only been 2 official drawings by the mangaka showing Mikasa with abs and NEITHER picture is exactly "good":

http://i.imgur.com/BQsTk0o.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ABDhXrM.jpg

^Aside from this....I'm pretty sure we never saw Mikasa's abs in the actual manga story and we DEFINITELY did NOT see it in the anime.


ALTHOUGH....there was an "official" anime artwork with Mikasa's abs which are a bit better than the mangaka's two drawings:

http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/b4438a95356d548dca029c7d9d1f61771370697749_full.jpg

holy shit that 2nd picture is scary...

OT: although i don't really find them to be aesthetically pleasing, i wouldn't really mind if it's in a good series
Nov 6, 2013 1:12 PM

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Falcie said:
Mikasa from SnK has abs.


I don't think they were ever shown in the anime though, which is a bummer.

The most muscular girl I've seen in an anime is Motoko Kusanagi from the first GitS movie when she's trying to pop open the hatch on the tank.
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Nov 6, 2013 1:17 PM

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Nov 6, 2013 1:50 PM

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Not really, I'm not gay. Women deserve more eye candy though
Nov 11, 2013 7:04 AM

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When I first read the title, this is what came in my mind:
http://oi41.tinypic.com/29f6u5h.jpg

But to answer the question, no, I wouldn't really like to see muscular women in anime or manga. However, strong and badass ones like Mikasa, YES PLEASE.
Nov 11, 2013 7:30 AM

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A dragon ball Z female version?
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Nov 11, 2013 7:33 AM
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Nov 23, 2013 9:09 PM

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Wouldn't mind it.
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Nov 23, 2013 10:24 PM

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No. Im ok with --and even prefer-- strong female characters, regardless of their attractiveness but, to put it bluntly, muscular women are painful on the eyes. Not saying that I need female characters to be dazzling beauties, but its significantly harder to like something thats hard to look at, as compared to a look thats simply attractive or neither attractive nor unattractive.
Nov 23, 2013 10:38 PM

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No, only Misaka.
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Nov 23, 2013 10:45 PM

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I don't care enough to say I'd like to see it, but sure, Why not?™ Fuck you Mellow
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Nov 23, 2013 10:53 PM

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Perhaps my top tolerance level is Motoko in GitS, or The Boss in Metal Gear series.
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Nov 24, 2013 2:17 AM

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Elaxer said:
No I like females when they are strong but I find muscles on women unattractive.


Its not like youre supposed to fap to every damn female character in anime.
Whats wrong with unattractive characters? This is why we cant have good things, every damn single anime character has to be young and either cute or sexy or possibly both.
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Elaxer said:
No I like females when they are strong but I find muscles on women unattractive.


Are you sure? http://i42.tinypic.com/2w5qces.jpg
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As for rational thought, most warrior or fighter females in anime look really wimpy and mostly skimpy the way they're drawn, most likely not being able to carry whatever giant weapon they may use
Mikasa might be the most muscular looking female I've seen, and she looks like she barely has lean muscle
For my own personal opinion, I do not mind at all seeing more muscular female characters (mostly due to the fact Im into that but thats not really relevant right now.) There IS indeed s big difference between big feminine muscle and big masculine muscle, and that really depends on the artist, and I would bet my life that most of any muscular female characters you've seen on the internet disturbs you because either 1.) The artist drew it for comedic reasons and made the female look as masculine as possible, or 2.) You have a serious thing against female muscle and although that may be the most popular opinion, I see no reason why you should hate it. I really do not see any problem with it at all. No one ever said muscles were purely for men to show off therefore muscle on a woman is manly nor makes a guy homosexual for liking it.
Anyways, yes, if the role fits, then why not?

And then there is this
THIS was made purposely to look gross, and I explain this because I see it circulating around this thread as if it's legitimately what a muscular female character should look like
It was drawn for the sole purpose of it being comedic, not to be taken seriously
http://i42.tinypic.com/2w5qces.jpg

Whereas there's this (has more than the usual amount of muscle you are most likely used to)
I'm not saying this should be as big as the characters should be, it's an example
But see, their faces are still cute, it is just their body that is different. Just more muscular, yet still keeping femininity.
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/106/1/d/magic_muscle_3_by_pokkuti-d4wg60v.jpg
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This discussion was 2 months ago, how in the world did you even come across it.
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Ulquiorra1923 said:


Oh,hell no...that's too much...girls shouldn't look like that...

Normal ones, yes, but we are talking about warriors, the kind that could rip you in two with their bare hands.


That's stupid. You aren't the authority on the female body and not all females shape their body to please males. Moreover I think it looks sexy. I like all types of female body types. I prefer smooth silky skin but you can have a character that has smooth silky skin and muscles. As long as the artist makes the muscle less rigid looking and slightly more curvy it can look attractive.

We do need more muscular female leads. Moe characters are awesome and cute but they shouldn't be the only female characters. Being strong willed is already popular as well in many shounen female characters. We need more anime that show strong female physiques for physically strong characters. She Hulk in comics does just fine and she is muscular. She has had more solo titles than any other marvel female character and is the most high profile marvel female character being on most of the big teams and founding teams and leading many others. As long as she is a good character who doesn't just have muscles then it's fine.

Someone already mentioned Balsa from Serei no Moribito and she is a great example of a more muscular female main character.
Aug 9, 2015 6:58 AM

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Yeah surely.
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Keysame said:
As for rational thought, most warrior or fighter females in anime look really wimpy and mostly skimpy the way they're drawn, most likely not being able to carry whatever giant weapon they may use
Mikasa might be the most muscular looking female I've seen, and she looks like she barely has lean muscle
For my own personal opinion, I do not mind at all seeing more muscular female characters (mostly due to the fact Im into that but thats not really relevant right now.) There IS indeed s big difference between big feminine muscle and big masculine muscle, and that really depends on the artist, and I would bet my life that most of any muscular female characters you've seen on the internet disturbs you because either 1.) The artist drew it for comedic reasons and made the female look as masculine as possible, or 2.) You have a serious thing against female muscle and although that may be the most popular opinion, I see no reason why you should hate it. I really do not see any problem with it at all. No one ever said muscles were purely for men to show off therefore muscle on a woman is manly nor makes a guy homosexual for liking it.
Anyways, yes, if the role fits, then why not?

And then there is this
THIS was made purposely to look gross, and I explain this because I see it circulating around this thread as if it's legitimately what a muscular female character should look like
It was drawn for the sole purpose of it being comedic, not to be taken seriously
http://i42.tinypic.com/2w5qces.jpg

Whereas there's this (has more than the usual amount of muscle you are most likely used to)
I'm not saying this should be as big as the characters should be, it's an example
But see, their faces are still cute, it is just their body that is different. Just more muscular, yet still keeping femininity.
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/106/1/d/magic_muscle_3_by_pokkuti-d4wg60v.jpg


I agree with your point and the part about being into it but that is irrelevant here as well. Many strong women back in the day like Sandwina were considered sexy. This was in the 1920's as well. Female bodybuilders in the late eighties and early 90's were also considered sexy and graced many magazine covers as well as many adolescent boys walls. Recently there has been alot of negative stigma against females with muscle online despite nearly every guy you ask saying they prefer an atheltic looking girl who looks like she at least jogs.

It has to do with how women with muscles are presented and the stereotype they have created with parodies and purposefully brutish looking illustrations of women.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11/117763/3263486-kingsizehulk00201.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/31666/3202884-jen+wyatt+1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11/117763/2802450-she_hulk__6___page_10.jpg
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljp8wqNvSz1qc63ooo1_1280.jpg

Also Frank Cho is a comic book artist who is infamous for being great at drawing women. He drew the first and last She Hulk pics presented here. One thing he notes in his artbook on drawing women is that for all women he adds just a hint muscle tone in their legs. It's that muscle that makes women's legs so sexy in the first place. If you draw it appropriately females with muscles can look very appealing.
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JustALEX said:
IMO....Mikasa's abs are an urban legend at this point.

NO ONE has ever seen them in the actual manga or anime, it's only OUTSIDE where we have a few crappy drawings.

It doesn't count IMO.


her abs make an appearance in one of the ova's when she's randomly boxing and for a brief moment you could see her muscles in the 2nd op
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i don't even like it when the guys are muscular
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Western cinema is filled with women whose sole role is to be an Action Heroine. So much for equality - we hate shallow male badasses but praise shallow female badasses. Some have the sense not to make them sex dolls (Fury Road), but others turn them into pure eye candy (Black Widow from Avengers).

I don't want to these women. I want to see women as people. They can be warrior women (Freezing, for all its flaws, focuses on a variety of warrior women, each with a personality) they need to be more than just 'this girl swings swords! that's cool!"

Femininity is underrated.
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Western cinema is filled with women whose sole role is to be an Action Heroine. So much for equality - we hate shallow male badasses but praise shallow female badasses. Some have the sense not to make them sex dolls (Fury Road), but others turn them into pure eye candy (Black Widow from Avengers).

I don't want to these women. I want to see women as people. They can be warrior women (Freezing, for all its flaws, focuses on a variety of warrior women, each with a personality) they need to be more than just 'this girl swings swords! that's cool!"

Femininity is underrated.

Two questions:
You bring up western cinema, but the west and Japan don't always play by the same rules. Is the issue you're bringing up actually an issue in anime, or is it a problem of some mediums that aren't anime? There are warrior women in anime (pretty much all of Hiroyuki Imaishi's works come to mind), but do they really overpower other female archetypes all that much?

And also, while I can understand complaining about shallow characters, is that really something that's unique to Action Heroines? I can think of plenty shallow lolis and shallow tsunderes too. Action heroines don't really seem, to me, to be any shallower than other female characters and there's nothing inherently wrong with them being there so long as they're well-written, which can be said for any character at all. Femininity is nice, but women aren't exclusively feminine no more than men are exclusively masculine.

Well, at any rate, I'd like to see muscular women more. I'd like to see diversity in body types more in general and not just for the sake of realism. Adding body types that aren't the typical ones would make characters simply more interesting to look at and open up more character design possibilities.
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I won't have any problem with it. In fact i think it's an awesome idea
Aug 9, 2015 8:13 PM

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Yes, more of Noi please.


I don't remember any muscular female mc in anime. Maybe Tionishia Monmus, kinda reminds me of Noi, physically.
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Ryugen said:
Am I the only one who actually likes moe characters sometimes? :(

I love moe characters ^^
Aug 9, 2015 8:32 PM

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Toned but not like super muscular.
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Women with abs are one of my weaknesses. Why are there so few?

JustALEX said:
I like how everyone mentions Mikasa and yet....

There has been a grand total of zero....I repeat....ZERO animated scenes showing Mikasa with any noticeable muscles.....and obviously I'm talking about her famous 6 pack abs which have only been fetured in about 2 official manga drawings but not the actual story.

So...yeah...


I wish they show off Mikasas muscles in the Anime at one point.
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She does not have to be muscular but a lead fighter or mental strong could be nice to be used more in anime, for example like Rinka from Tokyo ESP.
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Balsa from Seirei Moribito was kinda bulked up. So yeah why not.
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