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Nov 8, 2013 8:19 AM
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So, I know theres a lot of people on here that have seen a shit ton of anime. For you people who have seen literally 100s of anime, how many, numerically, are actually really GREAT. Use whatever criteria you want.

I'm curious, we all know there are titles brought up on the board again and again - shows that have staying power and a consistent fanbase (most people love them) but there are a zillion shows out there. Ok, maybe not a zillion. Anyway, numbers of anime far and beyond recognized favorites.

It goes without saying that I'd like to know why you choose that number as well.

thanks! ^^
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Nov 8, 2013 8:26 AM
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if a score of 8 is equal to "GREAT", then I've seen 81 great shows out of the 242 I've watched.

If 9 is great, then the ratio becomes 36/242
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Nov 8, 2013 8:48 AM
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What's the point of this thread?!
The defination of GREAT varies from person to person, and also, massive fanbase does not necessarily imply the anime is great in quality...
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Nov 8, 2013 8:52 AM
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Well if I go according to my list it would be 11 out of 162 (a bit more since I didn't add some things)

But I know I'm biased in some of those so it's even less.
Nov 8, 2013 8:54 AM
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shattereddreamzz said:
What's the point of this thread?!
The defination of GREAT varies from person to person, and also, massive fanbase does not necessarily imply the anime is great in quality...


thats why i said use whatever criteria you want. we all fight to the death over the fact that our opinions about anime are subjective, like you said, so theres no point in trying to create strict guidelines.

I'm merely looking for opinions ^^

ohyah, by massive fanbase, i am merely referring to the fact that SOME anime are hugely popular. hope that clears things up :)
Nov 8, 2013 8:57 AM
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Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap

I don't watch everything, though, and since I'm discerning about what I watch I think my list has a better good:crap ratio than 1:9.
Nov 8, 2013 8:59 AM
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http://mal.oko.im/IntroverTurtle/export?type=3&bar1=f0dba7&bar2=e1b082&line1=f8fafe&line2=eff2f8&back=ffffff&font1=000000&font2=aaaaaa&title=4836b7&logo=f3b788

And that's so far, sometimes my opinion changes greatly in between watching it the first time and rewatching it. So most likely my number of 9s and 10s will grow. I also have a lot of probably very good anime in my PTW.
Nov 8, 2013 9:13 AM
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OVER 9000

Only one, Inferno Cop.
Nov 8, 2013 9:15 AM
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None, anime is garbage Breaking Bad for the win.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Nov 8, 2013 3:30 PM

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I have a little over 800 on my list and 8 of them are 10s, so one in a hundred? Though basically my 9s are simialr to my 10s, the 10s just have that extra bit of perfectly suiting my tastes to the detail. Most of the 9's I'd recommend to everyone as a pretty goddamn great show, even if you're not a fan of the genre as long as you don't hate it you can't find much to complain about in those shows. Sports shows may be the exception because I'm biased towards enjoying them more than most other genres and it's kind of a niche genre, but stuff like Major and Hajime no Ippo I'd still count because of how good they are.
So with the 9s it would be 70 of 812 anime, coming close to 10%. But considering that's only if the anime I deem watchable in the first place, there's at least twice or three times as much crap I'll never take a second look at that never even makes it to the list. Including that it would be something like 2% of all anime. I think it's a fair assumption.
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Nov 8, 2013 3:37 PM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I have a little over 800 on my list and 8 of them are 10s, so one in a hundred? Though basically my 9s are simialr to my 10s, the 10s just have that extra bit of perfectly suiting my tastes to the detail. Most of the 9's I'd recommend to everyone as a pretty goddamn great show, even if you're not a fan of the genre as long as you don't hate it you can't find much to complain about in those shows. Sports shows may be the exception because I'm biased towards enjoying them more than most other genres and it's kind of a niche genre, but stuff like Major and Hajime no Ippo I'd still count because of how good they are.
So with the 9s it would be 70 of 812 anime, coming close to 10%. But considering that's only if the anime I deem watchable in the first place, there's at least twice or three times as much crap I'll never take a second look at that never even makes it to the list. Including that it would be something like 2% of all anime. I think it's a fair assumption.


tx a bunch, this is really what i'm looking for - people with literally 100s of shows under their belts. i got thinking about it b/c i tend to be choosy and i wonder what I might be missing. always trying to find the next thing that will really blow my mind, not just massage it.
Nov 8, 2013 3:56 PM

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From the statistic from my list, 44 titles which I'd call great out of 579. So about 7.6% ?
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Nov 8, 2013 3:58 PM
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Clannad Afterstory is an absolute masterpiece.
Anyone who gave it less than an 8 should suicide.
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hmm i guess over 100 but thats probably inaccurate considering my rating scale is mainly 7-10 dont hate
Nov 8, 2013 4:54 PM
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According to my list, its

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Nov 8, 2013 4:58 PM

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~14... out of 140 completed. Just looking at the top 30 anime on MAL right now, only two of them are great. Cowboy Bebop and Mushishi (haven't seen LOTGH yet). Other really good ones are Mononoke Hime and Gurren Lagann. That's about it for the top 30. The rest are either just good or mediocre.
Nov 8, 2013 4:59 PM
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it's boring. i should have dropped after story.
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it's boring. i should have dropped after story.

Maybe I should drop you
Nov 8, 2013 5:03 PM

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82/1,511 or 5% are great so far.
Nov 8, 2013 5:10 PM

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http://mal.oko.im/NeoAnkara/rati,anime

According to that 4.49% are great.
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Nov 8, 2013 5:24 PM

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Clannad = great
AS= masterpiece... come at me bruh.
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JD2411 said:
Clannad Afterstory is an absolute masterpiece.
Anyone who gave it less than an 8 should suicide.

Hmm... yeah I should actually suicide.
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Nov 8, 2013 6:47 PM

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More like calling the elitists than the hardcores
Nov 8, 2013 7:13 PM
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id say around 7-10% of anime ever made can be considered as classic
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Nov 8, 2013 7:15 PM

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10% is good
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JD2411 said:
Clannad Afterstory is an absolute masterpiece.
Anyone who gave it less than an 8 should suicide.

Damn, for 1 point, i must kill myself
Nov 8, 2013 7:37 PM

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None of them. They are all shit.

Besides, what you consider good, others might consider the worst, so there is no such as great.

Also, 7 and up are great in my scoring system so i will just say a lot, because I am too lazy to look it up.
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PrimeX said:
Clannad = great
AS= masterpiece... come at me bruh.

pfft....Kanon is better
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Nov 8, 2013 7:41 PM

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shattereddreamzz said:
PrimeX said:
Clannad = great
AS= masterpiece... come at me bruh.

pfft....Kanon is better
Hahaha.....no.
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IntroverTurtle said:
shattereddreamzz said:
PrimeX said:
Clannad = great
AS= masterpiece... come at me bruh.

pfft....Kanon is better
Hahaha.....no.

Atleast I didn't fall asleep watching kanon..
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Nov 8, 2013 8:18 PM

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shattereddreamzz said:
IntroverTurtle said:
shattereddreamzz said:
PrimeX said:
Clannad = great
AS= masterpiece... come at me bruh.

pfft....Kanon is better
Hahaha.....no.

Atleast I didn't fall asleep watching kanon..
I bet it's hard to fall asleep when you're getting tortured with Uguuuu.
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IntroverTurtle said:
shattereddreamzz said:
IntroverTurtle said:
shattereddreamzz said:
PrimeX said:
Clannad = great
AS= masterpiece... come at me bruh.

pfft....Kanon is better
Hahaha.....no.

Atleast I didn't fall asleep watching kanon..
I bet it's hard to fall asleep when you're getting tortured with Uguuuu.

BEST NOISE EVER...
Watching Nagisa and her antics tortured me to the depths of hell.
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\BEST NOISE EVER...
Watching Nagisa and her antics tortured me to the depths of hell.
Sadly not literally.
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I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.
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BasedToki said:
I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?
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Nov 8, 2013 8:43 PM

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If we are defining "great anime" as an anime rated 8 or higher:

For every unique set of tastes a person may have, I would estimate that there are about 150 genuinely great anime franchises waiting to be discovered (emphasis on the word franchises, otherwise the number would be higher). Generally when I see someone with around 700+ anime seen, they have roughly 100-150 of them rated 8 or above, so that's mainly where my estimate comes from. These anime aren't exactly easy to come by, so if you haven't hit this number keep on hunting!
Nov 8, 2013 8:59 PM
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None of you are hardcore, real pros don't give out 10s. This thread is made of lies!
Nov 8, 2013 9:00 PM

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For me great anime are 10's and good 9's.

For me that's around 15 anime; or 10% of all anime I've seen.
Nov 8, 2013 9:17 PM

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At best 20 favorite material, half of which can be rewatched, around five with infinite rewatchablity, some that have staying power beyond anime (franchise stuff like Gundam). Removing the clutter I would make a positive evaluation of 80-100 titles being well worth the time, which is still better than I can say for other media. These numbers won't unfortunately increase following some linear formula.
Nov 8, 2013 9:23 PM

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Around 10% for me. (Just counting 9/10s and 10/10s)

JD2411 said:
Clannad Afterstory is an absolute masterpiece.
Anyone who gave it less than an 8 should suicide.

Oops. Gave it a 7. I wouldn't give an 8 to a show that I skipped several filler episodes.
Nov 8, 2013 9:25 PM

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This thread is a statistical nightmare.

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JD2411 said:
Clannad Afterstory is an absolute masterpiece.
Anyone who gave it less than an 8 should suicide.

A 4/10 seems more reasonable.
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shattereddreamzz said:
BasedToki said:
I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?


Yes, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Yakub/reviews&p=2
read his review,
School days is more realistic and better than clannad.
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ultimalord said:
shattereddreamzz said:
BasedToki said:
I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?


Yes, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Yakub/reviews&p=2

School days is more realistic and better than clannad.
That's kind of a dumb thing to say.

Clannad has fantasy/magical elements deliberately structured into its plot.

If it were a plot twist in School Days that Makato was a circus ring leader, and backflipped away into the sunset at the end, it'd still be more "realistic" than Clannad.
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ultimalord said:
shattereddreamzz said:
BasedToki said:
I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?


Yes, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Yakub/reviews&p=2

School days is more realistic and better than clannad.
That's kind of a dumb thing to say.

Clannad has fantasy/magical elements deliberately structured into its plot.

If it were a plot twist in School Days that Makato was a circus ring leader, and backflipped away into the sunset at the end, it'd still be more "realistic" than Clannad.


Do you know how many fans like to call clannad the most realistic romance EVER?

Clannad season 1 and the first half of after story were shit.
Second half was decent, but ending was made for losers who can't handle life consequences.
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Ugh Clannad and School Days argument all over the place ._.
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Do you know how many fans like to call clannad the most realistic romance EVER?

Clannad season 1 and the first half of after story were shit.
Second half was decent, but ending was made for losers who can't handle life consequences.

I thought you meant realistic in the context of realistic characters, romance, relationships, not the supernatural elements.
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ultimalord said:
shattereddreamzz said:
BasedToki said:
I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?


Yes, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Yakub/reviews&p=2
read his review,
School days is more realistic and better than clannad.

Realistic, yes..
Better, fuck no..
I mean I hate clannad because its so overrated, in truth, its a decent show, just decent.
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shattereddreamzz said:
ultimalord said:
shattereddreamzz said:
BasedToki said:
I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?


Yes, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Yakub/reviews&p=2
read his review,
School days is more realistic and better than clannad.

Realistic, yes..
Better, fuck no..
I mean I hate clannad because its so overrated, in truth, its a decent show, just decent.


Shouldn't of said "better." I meant in terms of my enjoyment.
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