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Aug 31, 2013 5:44 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Smoker has a tough time trying to beat Vergo
Monet blocks the way out in the Biscuit Room
While Sanji helps the G-5 men and Tashigi get out of Building B away from the killer gas
Cesar plans to make everyone go to Building R where he will release the killer gas for his demonstration
Then Luffy (the idiot that got himself stuck there) gets hungry and find himself not alone in the trash room

247EyesAug 31, 2013 6:10 PM
Aug 31, 2013 6:03 PM
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5/5
Chapter was well shaken ..... this fight Vergo x Smoker're too fucking soon ..... wanna see momonosuke xD ...
Aug 31, 2013 7:43 PM
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Aug 31, 2013 8:07 PM
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Very interesting episode in my opinion. It seems like the animation quality is finally improving again since a few episodes again after the long rather low quality, or am I just imagining things?
Aug 31, 2013 8:15 PM
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Nothing that special about this episode at least for me
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Aug 31, 2013 9:14 PM
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Nothing pretty much happened, only about Caesar's past featuring Vegapunk.
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Aug 31, 2013 10:50 PM
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What will Luffy wish for now that he's captured the dragonballs?
Aug 31, 2013 11:19 PM
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Shinomori Aoshi is Dr. Vegapunk.

Quatre Raberba Winner is Momonosuke.
Sep 1, 2013 12:21 AM
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AnimationQueen said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Smoker has a tough time trying to beat Vergo
Monet blocks the way out in the Biscuit Room
While Sanji helps the G-5 men and Tashigi get out of Building B away from the killer gas
Cesar plans to make everyone go to Building R where he will release the killer gas for his demonstration
Then Luffy (the idiot that got himself stuck there) gets hungry and find himself not alone in the trash room



lol why are you describing the episode as if we didn't see it
Sep 1, 2013 12:33 AM

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When can we have

It's taking forever. ):
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Sep 1, 2013 12:34 AM
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nami's pissed seeing a better version of herself
Sep 1, 2013 12:35 AM

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I'm thinking in two episodes....maybe three depending on how much they drag it out.
Sep 1, 2013 12:40 AM

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Damn i expected a bit more of a fight between vergo and smoker ;( not exchanging few hits.In the end we saw Momonosuke pinky dragon xD.
Sep 1, 2013 2:22 AM

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Is it just me or... Zoro x Monet should be a thing
Sep 1, 2013 2:43 AM

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bloodgods said:
Is it just me or... Zoro x Monet should be a thing


Yeah, because they stare at each other too long.

Pretty boring episode, I wish Law get his heart back already and fuggin own Vergo.

Anyway, this arc is already reaching its climax and Funimation still haven't settle its problem with getting the new OP. Are they gonna use We Go to for the next arc too? That's just....
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Sep 1, 2013 3:27 AM

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hmmm, the fight seemed a bit short and i skipped the flashback seeing as i already know about that >.< It was decent though, dat momonosuke.
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Sep 1, 2013 4:06 AM

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Damn how I hate flashbacks, especialy about obvious things. Half of the episode wasted instead of more great battles.
Sep 1, 2013 5:34 AM

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OK episode. Nothing special happened really. Smoker's punch in Vergo's face was pretty cool. Flashbacks was pretty boring to be honest and Ceasar's speech was way to long. Let's hope for more action next time : P
Sep 1, 2013 6:38 AM

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The best part about the flashback was hearing Vegapunk speak, even if it didn't show his face. I'm actually pretty pumped for next week, too.
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Sep 1, 2013 9:14 AM

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I was expecting a little more fight between Vergo vs Smoker. I hate flashback
Sep 1, 2013 9:34 AM

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They could possibly have made this episode any slower and boring.

Come on, almost nothing happened. We saw Vergo and Smoker exchange a few punches, people running from gas (...) and that's all.
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Sep 1, 2013 9:59 AM

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I assume the pink dragon in the dump is Momonosuke

also first time we see Vegapunk
Sep 1, 2013 11:35 AM

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I was a little disappointed there wasn't a full on fight between Vergo and Smoker. However, Smoker and Sanji were both awesome for the brief bits they were shown. And Caesar was nothing short of magnificent, I loved his impassioned, manipulative speech.
Sep 1, 2013 11:41 AM

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Wait wait. We speak for the same episode here? First the animation doesn't improve at all and second watching Smoker vs Vergo it's like watching some kinda of parody or a fan animation. Fuck you toei.
Thanks god i read the manga.

look to this:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130723031005/onepiece/images/b/b8/Vergo_vs_smoker.PNG
and then to this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kdRzzzDQycs/UHciiks1DDI/AAAAAAAAB2Y/di3F0xH2qDA/s640/One+Piece+Chapter+684+smoker+vergo.jpg
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Sep 1, 2013 11:42 AM

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We've come a long way. Episode 610.
Sep 1, 2013 1:48 PM
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Really hate Ceasar as a villain, lamest villain in all of one piece. We already have buggy the clown. Dont need 2 lame asses. Those dumb goat guys are also friggin lame. Crying for saving their lives 2 years ago. Its just really bad comedy.
Sep 1, 2013 3:00 PM

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What happened in this episode? It was 100% dialog. I mean, Smoker and Vergo didn't even started fighting, Smoker just managed to throw one single punch which probably will make no effect at the fight. One Piece fights are almost like this: It doesn't matter what happens in the fight, at the end someone will throw a finish move that will win it.

Sanji's group (marine) made no progress at all, they were running at 609 and they are still running at 610.

Luffy asked to the dragon "Who are you?". That was all he did on the episode.

And the other half of the episode: For the 50th time, the history of the gas guy. I mean, we already know what happened, shit, stop throwing that flashback at our face.
Sep 1, 2013 3:26 PM

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Too slow, this pacing is way too damn slow. Doesn't help that this arc isn't all that great, only about the last 10 or so chapters are good. Oh well I can't wait for the next arc its soooo much better than Punk Hazard. Even with this pacing it will still be good.
Sep 1, 2013 3:32 PM

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Im seriously thinking about stalled it until the anime go to dresrossa.
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Sep 1, 2013 6:44 PM

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I believe we have found...


WTH is with the fight with the two vice-admirals, the episode title should Punk Hazard Shinkokuni Marathon Day XX or something, the Strawhat crew has been running away from the deadly gas since it activated near the lake several episodes ago. >_<
sakaSep 2, 2013 6:15 PM
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Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy.
Sep 1, 2013 7:18 PM
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What a freaking, fkin boring episode , op gets worse and worse...
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Sep 1, 2013 7:52 PM

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Too much of stupid Ceaser and his brainless subordinates.Seriously, episode's title was Vergo vs Smoker when they almost didnt fight at all.I tried hard for years not (!) to read manga, but i think now i might have reached my limit.Anime isnt helping me as well with episodes like this :/
Sep 1, 2013 8:00 PM
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A lot of build up in this episode. I hope something goes down soon. And Caesar is a douche and I hate how his minions don't see it. Can they just revolt now?
Sep 2, 2013 2:17 AM

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Okay episode I guess, I expected more of Vergo vs Smoker but nvm.
Also, I kinda enjoyed the flashback of Caesar. I wonder when we will see Vegapunk's face.
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Sep 2, 2013 6:28 AM

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The episode title made me think it was gonna be an epic battle between smoker and vergo, but it barely showed them... i still liked the ep but damn.
Sep 2, 2013 9:37 PM

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Anime adaption is getting worse and worse


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Sep 13, 2013 2:06 PM
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On a side note not related to this particular episode, why is every episode only starting after +-5 minutes (consisting of the long opening and recap) ?
Sep 13, 2013 2:13 PM
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Bulletspeed said:
On a side note not related to this particular episode, why is every episode only starting after +-5 minutes (consisting of the long opening and recap) ?


Money. Animation is expensive, editing is way less expensive. Less animation, more money for Toei. The same reason why the animation in One Piece in general is more subpar than average.
Sep 19, 2013 11:16 AM

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"Sochikoso nani mono ni -de gozaru ka?"
-De gozaru.

Smoker's awesome in this episode! That fight, that animation, they're awesome! C.C. is irritating as always, that evil grin. If that happened in the past, I wonder how did C.C. with kaisouseki handcuff on and Vegapunk survived the explosion?
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Nov 23, 2013 1:45 PM

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Not sure i like monosuke voice
Dec 29, 2013 9:23 AM

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it would be cool to be able to transform into a dragon on and off.

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Feb 2, 2015 7:27 AM

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On to the next one

Sep 4, 2015 8:51 AM

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finally heard vegapunk's voice, wonder when they will show his face.
Aug 3, 2016 9:48 PM

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Wait why was Caesar's gassy robe still on him when he already had Sea Prism handcuffs on his wrists??

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A dragon who speaks?!

Caesar is bad, very bad cientific!!! insane!!! xD
Nov 10, 2017 8:24 AM

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Luffy found Momonosuke.
Jul 3, 2019 4:33 AM

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So Luffy found the samurai's son! I am so glad! A bit of a slower episode, not too much action but a little more insight into the accident four years ago on the island. I hope there will be quite a few more fights before this arc finishes.
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I was expecting more to go down in this episode honestly, whereas the Monet and Vergo situations were barely advanced. Still what happened was by no means bad. Firstly, we had the group split up some more, Robin suggested the favor Luffy asked was to get sea prism handcuffs and sent Brook and Usopp to get them, Kin’emon ended up tagging along. This makes it so Usopp, Kin’emon, and Brook are elsewhere, Luffy is in trash dump with Momonosuke, Nami, Robin, Chopper, Zoro and the kids are with Monet, Law and Smoker are with Vergo, Sanji is with Tashigi and the G-5, and Brownbeard has gone missing ever since the crew went to Chopper’s aid, he may have split up to pursue his own goal of helping his boys. We also have Franky presumably inside the Sunny but I think he ought to come up at some point again, we do have some Doflamingo guys coming from my understanding so it could be then. Also regarding the Monet scene, I thought it was so cool how Monet referred to the Straw Hats as infamous as they aren’t rookies facing the notorious people like the Warlord’s of the sea or the CP9 now, instead they are notorious, fearsome people themselves and these conflicts are closer to equal in reputation!

The brief Vergo vs Smoker scene was nice. Law is hurt and constantly in danger of having his heart crushed more, keeping him out of commission. However, there is a prime opportunity for Smoker and Law to work together here and if Smoker can get Law his heart then this can become a serious 2v1. Smoker also showed how seriously he looks after his group of misfits despite how tough and stern he is as he told Vergo, “DON’T LAY A HAND ON MY MEN” and got a great blow on him. Speaking of the brief bit of combat we saw, it was wild, it had some matrix dodges, it was both a reminder of how slippery Smoker is and it let us see Vergo shoot an explosive out of his bamboo stick… He’s an interesting guy and knowing that Luffy ultimately will probably win here, I hope Vergo goes as far as he can, the dude is devoted and to the point and I love that. He hits people so hard and the way he comes back after being hit is so fun. Plus, vice admiral vs vice admiral is awesome.

The brief Sanji and G-5 section was sweet. Sanji fits right in with the G-5’s love of Tashigi, and the three way dynamic of the G-5 loving Sanji, Sanji loving Tashigi and hating the G-5’s compliments, and Tashigi hating how the G-5 are calling a pirate “brother” is glorious. As was Sanji running back to help any of the G-5 falling behind into the gas he could, even kicking some out of the way. The Sanji and Tashigi evacuation squad is wonderful, they are a powerful team.

Luffy is in the garbage dump with Momononsuke, he has a cute pink dragon form, and it made me reflect on what Monet said. That if he can’t fly he’s stuck in there. But Momonosuke can fly presumably so it looks like Luffy may have a way out after all! I was concerned Luffy would try and eat him but that didn’t happen, so far at least, and I wonder if Momonosuke hid in the garbage dump as to avoid being experimented on… Also, I just want to mention how Luffy’s reaction to waking up here was great Luffy content, his casual remark over that being awful and wondering where he was- then immediately shifting to looking for food was great. His ability to adapt and accept his situation is always inspiring.

Finally, what I’d consider key to this episode was focusing on Caesar’s plan and background. He had this big display of manipulating his men with crocodile tears, acting as a total selfless savior fighting for their sake, all while thinking about how dumb they are and how smart he is. That confidence and tendency to make a fool out of himself reminds me of Buggy, both are charismatic schemers who hold a high opinion of themselves, just Caesar’s far more capable of awful things. Caesar’s plan is to create a gas chamber and lead everyone into it to be frozen at once for his brokers, leaving only the path to the room open. We saw his background in how everyone was against his experimentation, how he frighteningly suggested that innocent death is collateral damage and suggested that Akainu would agree with him, as well as he made a point that the navy is already cruel to prisoners, he’s just taking the next step. Finally, we heard Vegapunk’s voice and saw that in a last ditch effort, Caesar nuked the island before being taken away.
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I Had high hopes for Smoker but hes getting whooped
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Surprisingly enough, Sanji fits right in with the G5 crowd~ I guess it's because of his boys back at Baratie being as rowdy as Smoker's men that his interactions with them felt familiar.

I wonder how Caesar and Vegapunk survived the whole explosion considering that they're at ground zero when it was activated.

It looks like Kin'emon's kid wasn't the dragon he beat up after all. That's a relief~








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