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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ugh, what? Yoriko pushed out Kanako, to be honest I wouldn't have thought that it was going to be that complex, still impressed that such a lil' story coming from her could have fooled out everyone. Hard to believe that Suzaki could get out with Kanako's 'body' of the building without anyone noticing it. Guards? Secret Passage? There must be an answer for this, because theres a huge hole in this part. Also; why Chuzenji was staring at Sekiguchi when he said that they actually are inside of Kubo? Makes me think that Sekiguchi is actually Kubo and hes a part of his imagination or personality, thats what I predict anyway. And finally this quarrel will end for once and all on the last episode. |
MikiyoJul 30, 2009 5:10 PM
| Great episode, I smiled at the final revelation :) Now waiting for the last episode ! |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| .... I need to see the last episode to piece everything together. Since the beginning I knew Yoriko pushed Kanako, but couldn't understand why? |
MaxCrazy7 said: .... I need to see the last episode to piece everything together. Since the beginning I knew Yoriko pushed Kanako, but couldn't understand why? Yoriko believed that Kanako is perfect and when she saw the pickle her illusion of Kanako's image fell appart. |
MaxCrazy7 said: Since the beginning I knew Yoriko pushed Kanako, but couldn't understand why? I've been thinking the same thing since the beginning too but with all this random stuff they tossed at us it only made me question it more and more lol. This whole series was basically a whole bunch of unrelated story's that where happening at the same time to make our main characters believe they where all related to the main story. Kind of makes me want to bash my head against a keyboard. |
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| This episode made me wat. now to rewatch it. |
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| When talking to Yoriko's classmates, remember the policeman found out she was hated by her classmates? And that Kanako, while stand-offish, was quite smart and popular? I think Yoriko was a strange, self-hating, delusional girl. Kanako befriended her, and Yoriko began to idealize and fantasize about Kanako being an angel (all those key Buddhist terms used in Sekiguchi's novella). When Yoriko saw Kanako's blemish on her neck, Kanako was no longer the ideal beauty -- but a regular girl, just as miserable and insignificant as Yoriko herself. Consequently, Yoriko pushed her onto the tracks. Yoriko then made up the man in black (again, from Sekiguchi's novel), and the family desperately attempted to keep Kanako alive for the inheritance money. I think they were able to sneak Kanako out of the "research box" because only her brain ("cognition" and "perception of reality") is still in tact. She is, for lack of a better phrase, a literal brain in a vat. |
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| This place's the inside of Kubo. =D |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| When it was over I felt that I had only been watching for 5 minutes. The solution is unexpectedly simple in some ways and complicated in others. The problem is that we've had some unreliable narrators like Yoriko that complicate our view of things. Mamisaka was actually Kanako's grandad? Wow. Didn't expect that. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Supernatural ending? Supernatural ending. |
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| Great episode. |
| A true man never dies. |
| A nice sum up of what's going on, what happened, the delusions. |
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| Can't say that I'm surprised regarding some things relevations in this episode, some others are pretty crazy, tho. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Well dang, that is crazy! Yoriko killed Kanako after all, she was really sick in the head... Lots of mystery solved this episode. |
| Oh my gosh so it was Yoriko |
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| Yoriko was honestly sus since day one, delusional and disappointed to such an extent, killing her flawless friend for a skin imperfection; how is that surprising? Kanako killing herself was possibly another option, but she wasn't disturbed enough. Not once I thought 1- the man in black was believable, 2- Kanako's sister wasn't actually her mother, 3- the kidnapping wasn't staged. Kubo became the machine-man. As expected, the supernatural factor is limited to words and concepts, it's really all about wacky medical experimentation. |
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