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Jun 15, 2013 7:21 PM

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Oh crap... damnit..!!! He's.... AARRGGGHH I CAN'T WAIT I'M READING THE MANGA

That preview... Armin.. did he... to... Eren...

Nup. I'm done. Let's go MangaPanda...
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arena149 said:
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What the hell? Has the pace slowed down to 1 chapter per episode or something?

What do you mean "Has slowed down"? It was always 1-1.5 chapter per an episode.

Refer to http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=589515

This. The reason the pace feel slower is because the chapter they adapted in particular are slow too. Considered that the manga only have 46 chapter it kind of inevitable. It has the same case with Railgun S which also from monthly manga as well.

This ep is good but the still kind of distracting sometimes, just little nitpick. At least they bumped the animation at end lol.

Pixis is really awesome. He look like a troll when Eren drink the alcohol haha.
Rico looking good somehow wow. Funny she has different style of running when compared to others.

Damn the same cliffhanger just like in the manga. Can't wait for next ep.


Excuse me. the story slowed down too as well

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Imagine them as ants... Ants can lift things many times the size of their bodies.


Someone skipped his science class here.


Yes... That is you, now watch that documentary about ants.
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Jun 15, 2013 7:26 PM
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GodlyKyon said:
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Rofl, detailed and gorgeous looking stills? They are just normal stills with filters. Someone has no shop/photo app experience.

Sunflex2012 said:
Even if he had total control over the Titan, I don't think he would be able to lift a rock bigger than him. Have you ever tried to lift a rock of your size? Even half of your size would be extremely difficult, almost impossible, only if you are one of the world's strongest man. So, did they really think he could lift one bigger than him?


Don't expect any physics in SnK. Definitely the author has no idea what mass is.


Neither common sense, :)


Actually, that is addressed later on.

Imagine them as ants... Ants can lift things many times the size of their bodies.


Well, ants can lift many times their mass because of their small size. Keeping the body proportions, while the mass increases with volume, the strength of muscles increases with their cross-sectional area. So, if you double your dimensions you would be 8 times heavier, however only 4 times stronger. That's why ants can lift so many times their mass, while an elephant can not.

If an human can not lift a rock their size, imagine an Titan which is 7~9 times bigger. Unless they are a superbeing with superhero powers, such as an muscle more than 256 times more efficient than human's.

Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?
Jun 15, 2013 7:28 PM

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GodlyKyon said:

Yes... That is you, now watch that documentary about ants.


I'm not going to explain every science fact here. But still, if ants are big as titans... oh well. why am I even trying. Go, google.

Sunflex2012 said:
Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?

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Sunflex2012 said:

Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


Yeah , Titans ARE NOT humans , so they have a SUPER POWAR to lift object bigger than them :P
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DawnJ said:

Sunflex2012 said:
Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


Maybe they are the fusion of Hulk (Extreme Strength) with Wolverine (High Regeneration Rate).
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Sunflex2012 said:
GodlyKyon said:
Sunflex2012 said:
DawnJ said:
Rofl, detailed and gorgeous looking stills? They are just normal stills with filters. Someone has no shop/photo app experience.

Sunflex2012 said:
Even if he had total control over the Titan, I don't think he would be able to lift a rock bigger than him. Have you ever tried to lift a rock of your size? Even half of your size would be extremely difficult, almost impossible, only if you are one of the world's strongest man. So, did they really think he could lift one bigger than him?


Don't expect any physics in SnK. Definitely the author has no idea what mass is.


Neither common sense, :)


Actually, that is addressed later on.

Imagine them as ants... Ants can lift things many times the size of their bodies.

Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


THIS

Apparently that the 3DMG would be useless in real life anyhow, since the force applied to the body of a person wouldn't have been... Small

DawnJ said:
GodlyKyon said:

Yes... That is you, now watch that documentary about ants.


I'm not going to explain every science fact here. But still, if ants are big as titans... oh well. why am I even trying. Go, google.

Sunflex2012 said:
Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?



He kind of explains it later, he makes a reference about how the body is being crushed.
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Jun 15, 2013 7:35 PM

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Oh Jesus... DAT cliffhanger... Mikasa!! :(
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Sunflex2012 said:
DawnJ said:

Sunflex2012 said:
Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


Maybe they are the fusion of Hulk (Extreme Strength) with Wolverine (High Regeneration Rate).


Considering how one of Titans' fundamental powers is regeneration... Yeah.
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Jun 15, 2013 7:40 PM

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Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

He then runs away with Armin and they live happily ever after.

They had 3 kids.
Jun 15, 2013 7:41 PM
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Iasuru said:
Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

He then runs away with Armin and they live happily ever after.

They had 3 kids.


Then became kings and ruled the world.
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Sunflex2012 said:
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Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

He then runs away with Armin and they live happily ever after.

They had 3 kids.


Then became kings and ruled the world.


And Queen. Don't forget about Armin
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Iasuru said:
They had 3 kids.


Armin: "I'm not useless after all!"
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Iasuru said:
Sunflex2012 said:
Iasuru said:
Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

He then runs away with Armin and they live happily ever after.

They had 3 kids.


Then became kings and ruled the world.


And Queen. Don't forget about Armin
And princes and princesses. Don't forget the three children
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AnimeHAwk616 said:
Iasuru said:
Sunflex2012 said:
Iasuru said:
Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

He then runs away with Armin and they live happily ever after.

They had 3 kids.


Then became kings and ruled the world.


And Queen. Don't forget about Armin
And princes and princesses. Don't forget the three children


They each ruled past, present, and future.
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DawnJ said:
AnimeHAwk616 said:
Iasuru said:
Sunflex2012 said:
Iasuru said:
Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

He then runs away with Armin and they live happily ever after.

They had 3 kids.


Then became kings and ruled the world.


And Queen. Don't forget about Armin
And princes and princesses. Don't forget the three children


They each ruled past, present, and future.


What a cliché anime.
Jun 15, 2013 7:51 PM

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Iasuru said:
Eren hates Mikasa and the way she always annoys him so he kills her. Typical.

I have no idea. but this really pissed me the hell of for a second, lmao
Jun 15, 2013 7:53 PM

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Another slow episode, the ending animation was amazing though.
Jun 15, 2013 7:55 PM

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Boring episode until DAT ENDING!
Jun 15, 2013 7:58 PM

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23 minutes of talking and stillframes for 30 seconds of decent animation

methinks there may be serious budget issues, i.e they blew a lot of it on the first episode.
explaining things and tactics is fine, but dragging it out for 2 episodes for something that could have been solved in 5-10 minutes is pushing it.


if only they could resolve things as quickly as the inevitable SNK defense force starts calling this post a troll and me a 'mad hater'

prove me right
Jun 15, 2013 7:59 PM
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The high budget animation in the end distracted me from the dialogue lol.
Jun 15, 2013 8:02 PM

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The high budget animation in the end distracted me from the dialogue lol.

although, i have to agree. the 30ish seconds of 3dmg action at the end was quite nice.
but alas, weve had 2 episodes of basically nothing.
for that.
eh
Jun 15, 2013 8:03 PM

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Eren stop messing around, I dont know if u can pick up that boulder but just do it lol
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Jun 15, 2013 8:05 PM

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Why are you guys expecting realism in an anime with 60-foot trolls?
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Sunflex2012 said:
GodlyKyon said:
Sunflex2012 said:
DawnJ said:
Rofl, detailed and gorgeous looking stills? They are just normal stills with filters. Someone has no shop/photo app experience.

Sunflex2012 said:
Even if he had total control over the Titan, I don't think he would be able to lift a rock bigger than him. Have you ever tried to lift a rock of your size? Even half of your size would be extremely difficult, almost impossible, only if you are one of the world's strongest man. So, did they really think he could lift one bigger than him?


Don't expect any physics in SnK. Definitely the author has no idea what mass is.


Neither common sense, :)


Actually, that is addressed later on.

Imagine them as ants... Ants can lift things many times the size of their bodies.


Well, ants can lift many times their mass because of their small size. Keeping the body proportions, while the mass increases with volume, the strength of muscles increases with their cross-sectional area. So, if you double your dimensions you would be 8 times heavier, however only 4 times stronger. That's why ants can lift so many times their mass, while an elephant can not.

If an human can not lift a rock their size, imagine an Titan which is 7~9 times bigger. Unless they are a superbeing with superhero powers, such as an muscle more than 256 times more efficient than human's.

Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


trying to explain simple 8th grade science to rabid snk fans?
dont waste your time.
could have mentioned square cube law aslo

i also did the calculations in another thread, the use of the 3DMG would give approximately 16 g's deceleration force, and even with calculations and working to boot, snk fanboys still said the 3dmg was feasible.
heres the thread

i liken it to trying to argue with a brick wall
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I enjoyed the ending
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I am getting bad feeling that some people think that physical density is directly proportional to physical strength.
Jun 15, 2013 8:12 PM

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I think you need to stop applying human logic to titans. It's a premise of the series that we know jackshit about them.
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Anime is Fiction people stop trying to find realism on it, well its not hardcore Science Fiction that needs to have real physics on it anyway
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Anime is Fiction people stop trying to find realism on it, well its not hardcore Science Fiction that needs to have real physics on it anyway


well tbh, there hasnt really been anything else worth noting from the last 2 episodes.
because it was basically nothing so we could get that 30 second clip at the end of ep 11
since theyve obviously gone over budget. i usually dont mind stillframes, but this ep was literally 50% still frames, 45% talking.

also, they eyecatches try to give a hint of plausibility to the physics (lol) in SNK
and tearing it to pieces has been more fun that quite a lot of the episodes
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Well, if they're insisting that the Titans are so light - they shouldn't be strong - I recommend that they read a little about diamonds.

Cause diamonds, hardest substance still known to man is made up of the same stuff as us - carbon.

The physical strength of a substance relies on how the molecules are arranged, not on how heavy or dense the element it is made of.

This is why scientists can come up with amazing substances like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel

Extremely light and yet very strong structurally.
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That was such a boring start but once the green smoke was released things got a lot better, spiderman action better! xD And what's up with Titan Eren attacking Mikasa!? o.O
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Sunflex2012 said:
Even if he had total control over the Titan, I don't think he would be able to lift a rock bigger than him. Have you ever tried to lift a rock of your size? Even half of your size would be extremely difficult, almost impossible, only if you are one of the world's strongest man. So, did they really think he could lift one bigger than him?


Well, ants can lift many times their mass because of their small size. Keeping the body proportions, while the mass increases with volume, the strength of muscles increases with their cross-sectional area. So, if you double your dimensions you would be 8 times heavier, however only 4 times stronger. That's why ants can lift so many times their mass, while an elephant can not.

If an human can not lift a rock their size, imagine an Titan which is 7~9 times bigger. Unless they are a superbeing with superhero powers, such as an muscle more than 256 times more efficient than human's.

Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


Im not gonna say that titans picking up giant boulders should be possible, but old grandma's can lift cars off the ground partially when their adrenaline kicks in for a short amount of time, and although that destroy's a humans muscles and spine and other things.

I think the same concept can be applied to the titans, some sort of endocrine reaction increasing strength exponentially but they regenerate from damage caused making it a plausible theory.

Also i've never seen a human karate chop some1's head off and send it flying but Eren did that to another Titan so because of that i think it is unfair to compare what human and titans can do.
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(shakes head)

Yup, they do think that physical strength of matter is based on density.
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I feel like they are trying really hard to make you read the manga with them ending every single episode in a freaking cliffhanger.
Jun 15, 2013 8:27 PM
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Why does Eren treat Mikasa like a jerk?? He worries about Armin but not about Mikasa, wtf...
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Bald drunkard.

Ore mo ore mo ore mo da!

Ooh ooh ooh hey hey oooh ooh ooh hey hey.

Babyfacebody Titan!

This series' female kyarazu are some of the best.

HENSHIN!
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
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calling it now, pixis pretty much spelled it out

SNK is set in the future
mankind was on the verge of destroying itself with war
the titans were mankind creation to unite humanity under a unified cause.
the titans got out of hand and ended up destroying an already weakened humanity (hene why any modern army worth anything didnt just utterly destroy them, humanity was already on the edge due to war)
the walls were the contingency plan. the original people who released the titans realized what they did. and created the walls as one last attempt to save humanity.

screencap this
Jun 15, 2013 8:30 PM
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oh look a female titan?



So that's what Pixis meant by getting eaten by a sexy female titan last episode.
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eldest said:
23 minutes of talking and stillframes for 30 seconds of decent animation

methinks there may be serious budget issues, i.e they blew a lot of it on the first episode.
explaining things and tactics is fine, but dragging it out for 2 episodes for something that could have been solved in 5-10 minutes is pushing it.


if only they could resolve things as quickly as the inevitable SNK defense force starts calling this post a troll and me a 'mad hater'

prove me right

Yeah... The pace was particular slow in the manga also, not that I cared that much since I marathoned through the manga, so that chapter felt like 1 short scene, maybe 5-7 minutes or so.

Yeah, pretty slow for sure.

eldest said:
Sunflex2012 said:
GodlyKyon said:
Sunflex2012 said:
DawnJ said:
Rofl, detailed and gorgeous looking stills? They are just normal stills with filters. Someone has no shop/photo app experience.

Sunflex2012 said:
Even if he had total control over the Titan, I don't think he would be able to lift a rock bigger than him. Have you ever tried to lift a rock of your size? Even half of your size would be extremely difficult, almost impossible, only if you are one of the world's strongest man. So, did they really think he could lift one bigger than him?


Don't expect any physics in SnK. Definitely the author has no idea what mass is.


Neither common sense, :)


Actually, that is addressed later on.

Imagine them as ants... Ants can lift things many times the size of their bodies.


Well, ants can lift many times their mass because of their small size. Keeping the body proportions, while the mass increases with volume, the strength of muscles increases with their cross-sectional area. So, if you double your dimensions you would be 8 times heavier, however only 4 times stronger. That's why ants can lift so many times their mass, while an elephant can not.

If an human can not lift a rock their size, imagine an Titan which is 7~9 times bigger. Unless they are a superbeing with superhero powers, such as an muscle more than 256 times more efficient than human's.

Nevertheless, animes and movies do not follow real world laws, so who does really care?


trying to explain simple 8th grade science to rabid snk fans?
dont waste your time.
could have mentioned square cube law aslo

i also did the calculations in another thread, the use of the 3DMG would give approximately 16 g's deceleration force, and even with calculations and working to boot, snk fanboys still said the 3dmg was feasible.
heres the thread

i liken it to trying to argue with a brick wall


I don't understand why are you reading so much into it. There were far less realistic series in the past, in which the power of the main characters were not plausible at all.

Yeah, their brain would've been destroyed in real life, but what's the use of applying this much physics to it? Its not possible to use 3DMG in real life, but is that a really critique of the series? Its a fictitious world after...
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I don't understand why are you reading so much into it. There were far less realistic series in the past, in which the power of the main characters were not plausible at all.

Yeah, their brain would've been destroyed in real life, but what's the use of applying this much physics to it? Its not possible to use 3DMG in real life, but is that a really critique of the series? Its a fictitious world after...


other series dont even attempt to justify what happens as realistic, many explicitly make fun of it (e.g ttgl, where they explicitly say many times that theyve just assraped physics and possibility itself.)

SNK tries to make it seem realistic though, just look at the eyecatches and all the time (ALOT) they spend explaining all their plans. and theyre so laughably impossible.
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the next episode would be slow as hell too with plenty of flashback, I can see it. But the series' seasonal finale, episode 13, would be exciting

The arrangement makes perfect sense, episode 13 is the finale, and the 14th ep is the recap, with ep 15 starting with Eren in the cell
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the next episode would be slow as hell too with plenty of flashback, I can see it. But the series' seasonal finale, episode 13, would be exciting

The arrangement makes perfect sense, episode 13 is the finale, and the 14th ep is the recap, with ep 15 starting with Eren in the cell

close, ep 12 will be all talk, half sillframe
ep 13 will be all talk, 3/4 stillframe

and the final minute will be nicely animated action

but due to how much that cost to animate, and the last 2 episodes of cost cutting not being enough to break even, ep 14 is a recap with literally 0 new footage.
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They're now using science to criticize an anime from Japan.

Kek. Okay, but make sure that your science is sound.

Keep in mind that physical strength of a material is not dependent on the density of the material.

Also, that we do have real life humans who put their bodies through a lot of strain and I ain't talking about bodybuilders. Look up gymnasts and circus performers. They do stunts that you'd think are impossible and that should have broken their bones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour

Parkour performers also makes running look magical.
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That settles it.
I'm dropping the anime for now and reading the manga instead.
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j0x said:
oh look a female titan?



So that's what Pixis meant by getting eaten by a sexy female titan last episode.


Why do you think it is a female titan.

I remember in the manga (not sure about the anime) something about the majority of titans being male based on upper physical appearance.
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Pixis's speech was awesome. *salut*
5/5
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We're not shown the rest of beautiful Titan, so we don't know if it's really a guy or really a girl.

Plus, no facial hair, too.
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