The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya Movie Discussion

hanazara said:
I'm just wondering.... Why is that Haruhi is just supporting role?

tingy said:
First of all, what a long movie @__@ like seriously. I agree with some people here that it didn't necessary have to be 2 hrs 40 min long, they could've cut down some stuff in the beginning and I'm sure it wouldn't be any less impactful or any more confusing. At least I was wide awake when watching this otherwise I might've fallen asleep during the first hour. What I really enjoyed about this movie was seeing Yuki as a normal girl, she's so adorable! Her shyness, embarrassment, and her actually showing desire, like wanting Kyon to join the Literature Club and staying over for dinner >< too cute. I also liked Haruhi in the movie, and didn't find her annoying at all unlike many times during the series.

But the main reason why I really liked this movie was the themes/questions the movie asked regarding Kyon making the decision between the old and the new world, and Yuki's loneliness. This movie has a lot of stuff that could be beneficial for the Kyonism Theory, like how he's really almost playing god since he alone had the choice of whether or not to go back to the way things were. I do find it that his decision was a little selfish in a way because he wanted to go back mainly because he enjoyed the fun and exciting days with all the supernatural stuff happening, and the people he knew of course. And he made this choice knowing that he would be leaving Yuki's desire of being normal behind (and probably the fact that a world with Haruhi as god is somewhat risky). But at the same time, it's not a selfish decision because everyone else in the old world didn't get to have say, and if given a choice, I'm sure most of them would want to go back to the way it was as well (though because they don't know, I guess it wouldn't matter. As they say, ignorance is bliss).

What really hit home though was just how dejected/disappointed Yuki looked with her head down, when Kyon apologized to her on the rooftop--she must've of really wanted him to choose to keep the world with her as a normal girl. Not only that, but I think the whole monologue/inner dialogue of Kyon was really well done as well, when he was making the decision, and then him walking away from Yuki's grip. It really showed how lonely Yuki was. Not even just that, but like when Yuki took interest in the star decoration and the party hat, or even back in that one episode about computers. I think part of the reason that she was malfunctioned (?) had to also do with Endless Eight, how she spent 52 years worth of time observing the almost identical eight days. And of course other things as well, but I think it would make sense if EE served a even bigger purpose. Anyways, I cried really hard in many of the Yuki moments during this movie, like when Kyon gave her back the member application, and the whole rooftop scene was just beautiful. I'm glad that Kyon told her that he would wreak havoc if the whatever entities decide to dispose of her ;__; so beautiful. Despite it being a lengthy movie, I am glad I was able to sit through it all the way to the end, because the last quarter of the movie or so was definitely worth it. It was also because I heard the movie was really good that I decided to watch the series in the first place, and I was not disappointed by the movie ^^

Vinter said:

Haruhi has always had a supporting role. The series is about Kyon.

greenmarty said:
One thing i don't get - i read that Endless eight was supposed to prepare us for movie yet i fail to see any significant connection.

Vinter said:

Woah, relax. It's not over yet.
There are 11 light novels in the Haruhi Suzumiya series, and The Disappearance is only number 4. There are still 7 more to go, and the author is still writing new ones.[/


yeah! that's what I've been saying! it's not over yet hahahaa

LeGrandK said:
Loved the movie especially when kyon was having a monologue on whether the original world was interesting or not, the whole scene sent chills down my spine.
Long haired Haruhi was a +

TakezoKensei said:


I don't know if it helps or not, but you might be pleased to know that this actually marks a pivot in Kyon's relationship with Nagato, as we see in the later novels of the series.

After this, he does everything in his power to allow her to be as normal as possible, to be as emotionally free as possible, and he stops relying on her like he once did(which is half of what caused the movie in the first place -- Kyon's over-reliance). He dosen't really blame her at all, and beautifully acknowledges that this was partialy his fault. Him and Nagato's boss.
Not only that, but it's only after Dissapearance that Kyon really starts developing some incredibly deep feelings for Nagato herself, but that's off-topic.

I mean, really, Nagato was desperate, and that roof-top scene is so beautiful because it concludes that with Kyon not only choosing the Nagato he knows, and understanding her pain, but threatening her boss, just so that she could continue to exhibit emotions, because the Data Entity sure can't do shit to her now.
In the end of the movie, I can't feel tooooo bad for Nagato, because after seeing Kyon promise her that he'd never let her go like that, and putting his coat over her, she kinda gets what she wanted in the normal world: care, consideration, understanding, and the ability to be emotional. without having to completely alter her own personality.

Beautiful scene. Beautiful movie.

wheatleyscience9 said:



I know Yuki and Kyon got closer in this movie but I felt like this movie kind of showed how much Haruhi and Kyon cared for each other as well. Like just there was a really strong and endearing emotional connection with them that was present: like when Kyon said "I really miss Haruhi"

The_Core said:
I am still waiting for season 3

Any solid news about this ??

KHRoxas said:


This article is highly insightful and details reasons for why their hasn't been a season 3, a good read

http://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/the-reasoning-behind-a-lack-of-haruhi-s3/

edd2d said:
I don't think we will have a real romance coming firstly from Kyon...Mikuru, Yuki, Haruhi...no matter who...if one of them will tell her feelings to Kyon he will accept them cause he loves all of them.
This is what I figured out after watching the whole serie...

Minagatachi said:
I was hoping for some more Kyon x Haruhi moments before the series ended. And considering we probably won't get a season 3 (from what I've heard) I am going to be in a bad mood all day =(

ninja88880 said:
Watched this again a year later right after re-watching the entire series in the correct chronological order and I seem to love it even more. I don't remember it making me tear up during the scene when Kyon was questioning himself the last time. The story was very compelling, I'd say that the time travelling aspect in this is even better than S;G's and it'll always make sense since Yuki's involved. Definitely still my favourite movie. 10/10

ninja88880 said:
From the sub, "Suzumiya Haruhi’s powers were stolen and used to alter past memory data between this point in time and approximately 3 years 5 months into the future on December the 18th. The range of the alteration was 365 days." Guess I didn't pay much attention to this since the subs didn't make much sense at the time. But after reading the novel translation for that part, pretty sure it's a plothole. Still not really bothered by it that much.

Arvis_Jaggamar said:
I'm dense. Where is the problem here?

-Arvis

ninja88880 said:
Hm, can just make up random theories that doesn't contradict the novel. Maybe Haruhi only wanted aliens to exist when she gained powers, thus Nagato and others were changed into humanoid interfaces. But one year ago, she wished for time travelers and Espers to exist turning Asahina, Koizumi, and others into espers and time travelers.
Also in the series, Koizumi says espers were created 3 years ago, Asahina says that they cannot travel past the 3 year point, and Nagato says that espers, time travelers, and aliens were in existence before Haruhi became god, but she also said that she may be lying. So we can just assume all of them are lying and say that the above works. All espers gained powers 1 year ago, Asahina didn't really travel back in time instead she was just given a tpdd 1 year ago with many others, while Nagato and all other intelligence committee were given powers 3 years ago. Koizumi lied because he's always lying. Asahina receives messages from the future telling her to do things which she just follows. Barely had any training which is why she's always so confused.
So when Nagato altered memories, all espers' and time travelers' memories within 1 year were gone, so they don't remember themselves having powers. During the wipe, all time travelers were present in their proper time. Pretty sure she just wiped all the robots from the intelligence committee rather than alter their memories since it's just like computer data and planted 1 year worth of memory for herself and for her protector. Haruhi went to different school since events were changed in March when she was about graduate middle school. This makes sense and any other problems can be solved with even more BS since the author didn't really explain the extent of Haruhi and Nagato's powers.