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Apr 19, 2013 5:01 PM

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AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...



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totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...




What he said. Hell, it's a pretty memorable chapter that not only has an interesting revelation about two of the female characters, but also has Sasquatch atop the wall, throwing giant rocks at people [left over rage from the Jack Links commercials I presume].
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You know, it's only two episodes in and I feel so much emotion while watching this. It's so wonderfully animated and the futility of the situation is felt to the core. I'm looking forward to the rest of this
Me too, it's one of the most intense things I have ever seen.

And I don't hate Eren, which is wonderful
Apr 19, 2013 6:59 PM
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The armored titan was epic
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I love how they switched over to teenagers. This is pretty good, the pacing seems just right since it's 25 episodes.

For every anime there will be haters, don't worry about them.
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By the way, I love the ending theme song too.

5/5
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totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.
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AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know
Apr 20, 2013 9:43 AM
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They already had huge walls with secondary defensive systems in place. Wall Maria kept them safe for a century.

They're actually more prepared than most of (real) humanity, historically.

Also, 10k loss would have been avoided had not the Armored Titan break down the second gate.

The Colossal Titan is also a special titan.
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Darklight0303 said:
AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know


I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying it's the endsolution for growing crops during the day (or night, for that matter). I'm just saying that it's weird they didn't make cellars and underground passageways as an obvious way to escape being eaten during the day. They could come out at night and either flee to the second wall (true, that wouldn't solve the foodshortage problem, but I think everyone would first think about his/his family's safety before being concerned about how to cultivate crops.) Or, alternatively, they could kill off the giants at night, and rebuilt the wall/stuff the hole, night by night.


pming said:
They already had huge walls with secondary defensive systems in place. Wall Maria kept them safe for a century.

They're actually more prepared than most of (real) humanity, historically.

Also, 10k loss would have been avoided had not the Armored Titan break down the second gate.

The Colossal Titan is also a special titan.


It's true this is a possible explanation: hubris. Thinking that the wall was impenetrable... Still... the wall didn't get built in a day, I presume. People didn't forget about the horrors of the giants in a few years neither. So while maybe humans would become complacent after 100 years, at the start a lot of underground passages should have been made.


Real humanity was historically less prepared, because invaders of cities back then were humans too: where you could get, another could get too, and thus hiding in a cellar of underground was no sure way of not being found. Moreover, humans can still operate quite good at night, so it doesn't give as much advantage to wait for nightfall, unless for escape. But you can be sure that, if during medieval times the enemy would have been giant monsters roaming the earth, a lot more people would have prepared something underground too, with entrances too small for those monsters to get in.

Note that for threats that came from 'above' and couldn't get directly into cellars or underground, such as airplanes and their bombardments, humans very, very frequently used cellars, bomb-shelters, etc. and fled underground to take cover.
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AnimageNeby said:
Darklight0303 said:
AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know


I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying it's the endsolution for growing crops during the day (or night, for that matter). I'm just saying that it's weird they didn't make cellars and underground passageways as an obvious way to escape being eaten during the day. They could come out at night and either flee to the second wall (true, that wouldn't solve the foodshortage problem, but I think everyone would first think about his/his family's safety before being concerned about how to cultivate crops.) Or, alternatively, they could kill off the giants at night, and rebuilt the wall/stuff the hole, night by night.

Isnt it hinted that:
Apr 20, 2013 10:07 AM
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ssjokg said:
AnimageNeby said:
Darklight0303 said:
AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know


I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying it's the endsolution for growing crops during the day (or night, for that matter). I'm just saying that it's weird they didn't make cellars and underground passageways as an obvious way to escape being eaten during the day. They could come out at night and either flee to the second wall (true, that wouldn't solve the foodshortage problem, but I think everyone would first think about his/his family's safety before being concerned about how to cultivate crops.) Or, alternatively, they could kill off the giants at night, and rebuilt the wall/stuff the hole, night by night.

Isnt it hinted that:


Forced?

Don't see any indications of that. A few cellars and underground passages ARE shown and talked about, so if it's possible for one, it should be possible for others to be made too.

Yes, I'm sure that means something. An important part of the plot, no doubt. But it doesn't explain the lack of underground covers.
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AnimageNeby said:
ssjokg said:
AnimageNeby said:
Darklight0303 said:
AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know


I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying it's the endsolution for growing crops during the day (or night, for that matter). I'm just saying that it's weird they didn't make cellars and underground passageways as an obvious way to escape being eaten during the day. They could come out at night and either flee to the second wall (true, that wouldn't solve the foodshortage problem, but I think everyone would first think about his/his family's safety before being concerned about how to cultivate crops.) Or, alternatively, they could kill off the giants at night, and rebuilt the wall/stuff the hole, night by night.

Isnt it hinted that:


Forced?

Don't see any indications of that. A few cellars and underground passages ARE shown and talked about, so if it's possible for one, it should be possible for others to be made too.

Yes, I'm sure that means something. An important part of the plot, no doubt. But it doesn't explain the lack of underground covers.

Nobody knows why,what I wrote above exists,and everyone seems to keep secrets,so yeah it looks like humanity was forced,without knowing, to live inside the walls.
Apr 20, 2013 10:44 AM
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ssjokg said:
AnimageNeby said:
ssjokg said:
AnimageNeby said:
Darklight0303 said:
AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know


I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying it's the endsolution for growing crops during the day (or night, for that matter). I'm just saying that it's weird they didn't make cellars and underground passageways as an obvious way to escape being eaten during the day. They could come out at night and either flee to the second wall (true, that wouldn't solve the foodshortage problem, but I think everyone would first think about his/his family's safety before being concerned about how to cultivate crops.) Or, alternatively, they could kill off the giants at night, and rebuilt the wall/stuff the hole, night by night.

Isnt it hinted that:


Forced?

Don't see any indications of that. A few cellars and underground passages ARE shown and talked about, so if it's possible for one, it should be possible for others to be made too.

Yes, I'm sure that means something. An important part of the plot, no doubt. But it doesn't explain the lack of underground covers.

Nobody knows why,what I wrote above exists,and everyone seems to keep secrets,so yeah it looks like humanity was forced,without knowing, to live inside the walls.


Ah, you mean like that.

Ok, possible.

But that still wouldn't explain why they didn't make underground shelters for emergencies, though. :-)
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AnimageNeby said:
ssjokg said:
AnimageNeby said:
ssjokg said:
AnimageNeby said:
Darklight0303 said:
AnimageNeby said:
totoum said:
AnimageNeby said:
Really? Granted, it's been a time since I read it, but...





Thanks.

Vaguely remember that, but forgot it was during the night. Mind you:



So, in a way, this actually reinforces what I said; how strange it is they didn't seem to have made all that many cellars or underground passageways, so they could sing out until night, and then flee or kill the giants.


You can't raise livestocks and grow crops underground. They don't have the technology for it. They have to stay on surface to get food. THis is not some sci fi world with underground greenhouses you know


I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying it's the endsolution for growing crops during the day (or night, for that matter). I'm just saying that it's weird they didn't make cellars and underground passageways as an obvious way to escape being eaten during the day. They could come out at night and either flee to the second wall (true, that wouldn't solve the foodshortage problem, but I think everyone would first think about his/his family's safety before being concerned about how to cultivate crops.) Or, alternatively, they could kill off the giants at night, and rebuilt the wall/stuff the hole, night by night.

Isnt it hinted that:


Forced?

Don't see any indications of that. A few cellars and underground passages ARE shown and talked about, so if it's possible for one, it should be possible for others to be made too.

Yes, I'm sure that means something. An important part of the plot, no doubt. But it doesn't explain the lack of underground covers.

Nobody knows why,what I wrote above exists,and everyone seems to keep secrets,so yeah it looks like humanity was forced,without knowing, to live inside the walls.


Ah, you mean like that.

Ok, possible.

But that still wouldn't explain why they didn't make underground shelters for emergencies, though. :-)


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Ah, you mean like that.

Ok, possible.

But that still wouldn't explain why they didn't make underground shelters for emergencies, though. :-)


They do. In the manga they planned to
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Apr 20, 2013 10:58 AM

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AnimageNeby said:


Ah, you mean like that.

Ok, possible.

But that still wouldn't explain why they didn't make underground shelters for emergencies, though. :-)


They do. In the manga they planned to
We saw how that ended up
Apr 20, 2013 11:01 AM

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All right this is going to be a decently long, comprehensive appraisal of your "underground railroad" idea, Animage.
But real fast, in regards to it showing them already having underground passages, it also shows said passages being easily destroyed by...a certain Titan of the feminine persuasion.
At any rate, at least we've established that living underground isn't a proper sustainable method. As for having temporary underground shelters in case of a Titan attack, there's still a lot of ways that could go really wrong. We already know that going out to the next wall at night probably isn't a viable method anyways because we have a precedent of that not working so well, which, by the way, you can't just write off as "they were special." If they did it once, chances are, they'll do it again.
Conversely, even if we assume that it's a guarantee that the Titans would be rendered immobile during the night, there would still be complications. We know that Titans have a tendency to flock to areas that they know have a large concentration of humans, so it's fair to say that if they noticed people running to these underground shelters, they would just crowd at the entrance(s) to said shelters, effectively trapping everyone inside. As you can see, that's incredibly risky, as it would be near impossible for thousands of people to congregate in one area without attracting the Titans' attention; and in case anyone's thinking it, no, they couldn't go hide prior to the Titans' entering the wall, as it's clearly shown that the colossal Titan shows up without any warning.
Also, if they do manage to get everyone underground safely AND have multiple exits to rely on, it would still be hard to properly usher everyone from one wall to the next, given the distance between the the two walls [hundreds of kilometers]. If they went the entire distance underground, then that would be some passageway. I mean, that shit would be labyrinthine; it give Daedalus a run for his money. Not to mention that it would have to be very small, or there would be the possibility of a few of the smaller Titans getting in [which, in a cramped space, would render 3d maneuver gear useless]. If they went the distance above ground after leaving from one of the many exits [also assuming that Titans haven't already flocked there], then that likewise would be quite a journey; a journey full of dire possibilities. If a large herd of the civilians were to run into any active Titans [very likely, given the racket so many can make] at night, havoc would ensue [them not being trained soldiers and all], and people would scatter, leading to many casualties.
Finally, there's still this: given what we know of a select few of those Titans, those passageways wouldn't stay a secret for long. That alone puts the whole plan in shambles, but I still figured the rest was worth discussing anyways. Basically what I'm saying is, despite it being a good idea [and it is], there are way to many things that could go wrong, even under the best conditions; also, knowing the writer, everything that could go wrong, will.
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Having the construction of underground bunkers that can hide a sizable portion of a large population is also an immensely difficult feat for a civilization whose tech level seems to be around 1700s. Also, the fact that human population is scattered in the walls means one will have to countless bunkers to support them. Also, long lines of people rushing to fit in a hole is a prime target for titan chow. Remember than Titans are drawn to human presence.
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knowing the writer, everything that could go wrong, will.


This part sums up the series perfectly
Apr 20, 2013 12:06 PM
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I see Yuki Kaji is using Satoru's voice for Eren when he's adult! What a BAD-ASS! :D
Apr 20, 2013 12:52 PM

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My god, over 40 pages of discussin
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Apr 20, 2013 10:39 PM
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So they decided to give Mikasa an mature look for anime huh? Where does she even get the lipstick though?

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I see Yuki Kaji is using Satoru's voice for Eren when he's adult! What a BAD-ASS! :D


Eren's been voiced by Satoru's VA from the beginning, its just a change of tone between time skips. He wasn't young enough pre-time skip to justify using a female VA but he most likely will have a female VA during the flashback of when he saved Mikasa.
Apr 20, 2013 10:54 PM

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Nothing really special, just that armored titan @_@
What a bad-ass?

Next ep, just training? Can't wait until they really fight them!
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So they decided to give Mikasa an mature look for anime huh? Where does she even get the lipstick though?

Emphasized fucking lips.People dont need lipstick for their lips to be visible.
Apr 21, 2013 12:15 PM

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5/5

The action goes down but the charm remains, after that nice shot of the giant, I expect in the future other nice twists! Good animations and drawings well calibrated to the type of plot makes the series really enjoyable to follow! Promoted!
Apr 22, 2013 12:36 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC2okqCGMg4
Shingeki no Kyojin OP Pingu ver.
Apr 23, 2013 4:13 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC2okqCGMg4
Shingeki no Kyojin OP Pingu ver.


I'm laughing so hard right now. This is amazing.
Apr 23, 2013 7:48 PM

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Yeah still brutal. They don't show as much as the manga but the point still gets clear across, including the feeling of helplessness. Now we get to a boring point of the story. I didn't like the training arcs all that much especially when you consider what happens after.
Apr 24, 2013 2:56 AM

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This episode was epic, this show is something else.
The story is epic, the way it's done is amazing and the art is epic too.
It's pretty rare to see a show with a good story get a high budget, usually the generic boob trash gets the high budget. I can't wait for more of this.
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Apr 26, 2013 7:56 PM

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opening theme goes with everything
Derailer???????? muwahahahaha
Apr 26, 2013 10:29 PM

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Episode 2 of Shingeki no Kyojin is interesting in the fact that I've never seen themes such as refugees addressed in this manner. Also with a greater look at the universe of the show (or at least the city part of it), it reminds me greatly of Ba Sing Se from Avatar the last Airbender. The series future is looking great so far but I will withhold any comments or predictions until episode 5 at least.
Apr 27, 2013 6:13 AM

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^Dis
All in all, the author knows his story, and actually backs his story up with logic that would be believable in the fictional setting it's in.
Apr 27, 2013 11:58 PM
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anyone make a longer, subbed version of the animated gif op had of mikasa stuffing Eren? it was the first thing that came to mind when i saw that scene. hope im not the only one.
Apr 28, 2013 12:24 AM

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Good second episode.....I usually don't like it when they time skip in most anime, but it's appropriate in this case.
Apr 29, 2013 6:28 AM
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May 2, 2013 6:25 AM

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That was an super charge. I wonder if there will be more of thouse special giants.
And the instructors words where very encouraging.
May 2, 2013 6:49 AM

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The despair is strong in this episode.

I really love the beginning when they showed the history between the Titans and humans. That artwork style is amazing.
May 4, 2013 7:25 PM
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Freaking Eren just keeps complaining.. It was really annoying and frustrating to watch but it's understandable for him to have such attitude
May 4, 2013 10:34 PM

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Freaking Eren just keeps complaining.. It was really annoying and frustrating to watch but it's understandable for him to have such attitude
Well played,well played..
May 5, 2013 1:23 AM

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Well I'm loving it. Sure Eren is complaining...but it fits the circumstances
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My biggest disappoint is that only 10,000 people died in the attack. I think they were too worried of the numbers being too unrealistic that they downplayed the numbers a little oh well.

Looks really good, thank god they did a time lapse because one of my fears is that a lot of animes like this try to add too much character development too quickly, now Erin becoming less bratty wont really bother me.

My final fear is that by the end Erin will be strong enough to single-handedly take down a titan. One of the reasons I like Freezing so much (started for the ecchi, kept going because of the amazing plot) is that every battle some powerful characters die and that even the strongest can't take on novas by them selves.

As I said in episode 1, they have set this up to be an amazing anime (and I will certainly start reading the manga soon) so I am excited to keep watching this.
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My biggest disappoint is that only 10,000 people died in the attack. I think they were too worried of the numbers being too unrealistic that they downplayed the numbers a little oh well.

Looks really good, thank god they did a time lapse because one of my fears is that a lot of animes like this try to add too much character development too quickly, now Erin becoming less bratty wont really bother me.

My final fear is that by the end Erin will be strong enough to single-handedly take down a titan. One of the reasons I like Freezing so much (started for the ecchi, kept going because of the amazing plot) is that every battle some powerful characters die and that even the strongest can't take on novas by them selves.

As I said in episode 1, they have set this up to be an amazing anime (and I will certainly start reading the manga soon) so I am excited to keep watching this.

I dont see the problem since the 10k dead is mostly from the city that was first attacked.Every other city would have very few victims even if they were informed late.
May 6, 2013 5:42 AM

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Another episode filled with sense of helplessness. I like Eren's determination. I hope he'll achieve his goal. I swore so much those fkin titans during the episode..
May 6, 2013 6:13 PM

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Really enjoyable episode. Like eren's attitude :P
May 9, 2013 7:01 AM

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All I have to say really is that this is absolutely amazing; possibly my favourite this season. Glad I fell behind because I can watch a few episodes in a row now ^_^
May 11, 2013 10:42 AM
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I love Eren and I find Mikasa annoying.
This episode was great, and I really want to find out what was in that basement. Was that a flashback that Eren had of his father in the beginning? Or is he just dreaming? And where is his father? Hmm....
May 15, 2013 11:59 AM

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Alright....I think I'm sold.
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So good, a very good contender for my favourite anime.
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Why do all of the smaller Titans look like perverts? The grand, skinless ones are pretty awesome though.

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