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Mar 17, 2013 8:49 PM
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People always like anime is the same as cartoons

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Mar 17, 2013 9:01 PM
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These topics annoy me. Especially since NO ONE with half of the average IQ thinks anime and cartoons are the same thing.

Just another internet fallacy that refuses to die.
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Mar 17, 2013 9:07 PM
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The difference I see is that Western animation normally only animates for children (cartoons), whereas, Japan creates animated series across many genres, many of which are targeted to an older/adult audience.

Few western cartoons are also for an older audience. For instance in the US there is South Park , Family Guy, The Simpsons, Futurama, The Boondocks etc, but I've yet to see an animated show for older people that can get deep and psychological. The ones I've seen are just for lulz and nothing more.
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Forgetfulness said:
Anime and EASTERN cartoons? o_O
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You mean western cartoons.. and isn't there already a thread on this?
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Forgetfulness said:
Anime and EASTERN cartoons? o_O


Pretty much this,

Since OP can't read a map japan is east and america is in the west...

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_maps/world_pol495.jpg
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first off i think you mistook eastern for western ... and second off here is to point out the mistake you made http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture for reference to the "west" , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_world for "east" and the main difference ,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_dichotomy , there are many more , but mainly people seem to refer to these two the most ... don't be afraid to follow the links in those to read even more and get even more educated . as for the difference between anime and cartoons , they are just names to group up different styles of animations , as they can all fall under the animation category , and can equally be split up into a multitude of different sub-categories ... enjoy the long read !!!
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I can see why people say anime is cartoons because it is actually is, anime is animation for short which it is basically a cartoon in a way. The only differences I see are genres and art style for western animation and Japanese anime.
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I'll let you in a secret, anime characters speak japanese and western characters speak in english. I spent 10 years figuring this out, so dont just tell it to whom you do not trust, hm?.
Mar 18, 2013 3:25 AM
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The world, atmosphere and characters' mentality are far superior in anime.
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MitsukiHimeka said:
I can see why people say anime is cartoons because it is actually is, anime is animation for short which it is basically a cartoon in a way.


The problem with that logic is that it assumes that the word "cartoon" means "animation".
I don't think it does. Having all that "toons" inside it seem to be something childish.
So what "cartoon" actually means is more like "animation for children".
So maybe most anime ain't cartoons but things like Pokemon and Beyblade that are for small kids really are cartoons.
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well the diffrece in animation ideals is dictaed by cultural ideals i think values dissonance on what is acctable to children is stricter in the west if an
anime is amied at a prtmey demograpic under the age of 19 or under its a kids show

cause you not adult untill your 20 that is black and white by law and the eyes of community
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There's already a thread on this buddy, go check it out. :)
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Lock this thread. There's already a next one.
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Didn't we have the exact same thread a couple days ago?

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well the diffrece in animation ideals is dictaed by cultural ideals i think values dissonance on what is acctable to children is stricter in the west if an
anime is amied at a prtmey demograpic under the age of 19 or under its a kids show

cause you not adult untill your 20 that is black and white by law and the eyes of community
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DateYutaka said:
well the diffrece in animation ideals is dictaed by cultural ideals i think values dissonance on what is acctable to children is stricter in the west if an
anime is amied at a prtmey demograpic under the age of 19 or under its a kids show

cause you not adult untill your 20 that is black and white by law and the eyes of community


That makes no sense at all, but hell I can't even tell a word you're saying.
Mar 18, 2013 9:26 AM

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anime is generally complimental, even the dark ones like elfen lied

cartoons are generally critical, even the kiddish ones fairly odd parents

west and east continents have extremely different morals and social systems

visual differences are obvious

i personally find anime superior in terms of the amount of genres it offers, the visual art, and philosophy

however, i find cartoons superior in terms of comedy

they both have amazing voice actors and soundtracks so they tie in that aspect
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Mar 18, 2013 9:30 AM
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Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.


This sums it up pretty well.
Mar 18, 2013 9:36 AM

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Jellz said:
Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.


This sums it up pretty well.

that is impossible

they are all ''animations'' would be the correct term.

anime litteraly means animation made in japan
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Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.


Cartoon is NOT the same as animation. It's a kind of drawing, which can be animated or not. Anime is not cartoonish.
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Ghostony said:
Jellz said:
Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.


This sums it up pretty well.

that is impossible

they are all ''animations'' would be the correct term.

anime litteraly means animation made in japan


Cartoon is a pretty general term that both western cartoons and anime both fall under. It's far from impossible though your statement that they are all animations is correct.
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Litrydow said:
Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.


Cartoon is NOT the same as animation. It's a kind of drawing, which can be animated or not. Anime is not cartoonish.

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Mar 18, 2013 10:17 AM

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Haven't there already been a shit load of threads about this?
Mar 25, 2013 7:43 AM

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Anime is more mature and has a plot while cartoons is just for kids and its only comedy that`s their difference :)
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I think the people producing western cartoons need to grow some balls and get some creativity and stop relying on cheap comedy. We could be doing a lot more such as animated drama series and I'm willing to bet there is market for it here in America.
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blue_sky05 said:
Anime is more mature and has a plot while cartoons is just for kids and its only comedy that`s their difference :)

Wow... Just wow... Thanks for vitamin C :)

Edit: the guy below is kinda full of BS too :)
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in cartoons the antagonists are just evil- e.g.

scar from lion king - he wanted to become king and killed his brother
that old guy from UP - they explain he went crazy
theres a lot of villains in cartoons that just say there the bad guys without going in to depths of why they turned out the way they did, i mean yeah theres a summary of why but there back story isn't explained why they turned out the way they did,

yeah a few anime characters are like this too

like freiza from DBZ all he is is a evil alien that conquers planets but we do get to see why freiza turned out the way he did because how hes dad is.

we dont just get the bad guy to just to be the bad guy, sometimes we get to see how the bad guy turned out the way he is and we can be more sympathetic towards them,

also in anime you get to see both sides of the argument of two opposing sides who are fighting or have disagreements with each other, at least you can make up your own mind to support which side you agree with,

with cartoons you only see oneside of the story and the other side is the villains without knowing why,

in some anime there isn't a villain its just people fighting because-

they believe what there doing is right,
or is fighting out of hatred
or people disagreeing on other peoples beliefs.
ect
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Litrydow said:
Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.

Cartoon is NOT the same as animation. It's a kind of drawing, which can be animated or not. Anime is not cartoonish.

blue_sky05 said:
Anime is more mature and has a plot while cartoons is just for kids and its only comedy that`s their difference :)

And japanese fecals smell like roses...
Keep lying to yourself weaboos.
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The difference is that the medium of Anime lends itself to more serious tones while Western Cartoons are usually brushed off as trivial children's activity.

Though recently DC has taken steps to insure their products are more serous in nature but it's still ways off as to how Anime is perceived.
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DateYutaka said:
well the diffrece in animation ideals is dictaed by cultural ideals i think values dissonance on what is acctable to children is stricter in the west if an
anime is amied at a prtmey demograpic under the age of 19 or under its a kids show

cause you not adult untill your 20 that is black and white by law and the eyes of community


Very enlightening.
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Jauregui said:
Litrydow said:
Akito_Kinomoto said:
All anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are anime.

Cartoon is NOT the same as animation. It's a kind of drawing, which can be animated or not. Anime is not cartoonish.

blue_sky05 said:
Anime is more mature and has a plot while cartoons is just for kids and its only comedy that`s their difference :)

And japanese fecals smell like roses...
Keep lying to yourself weaboos.


A "comic" for you~
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Anime and eastern Cartoon? so the difference between anime and anime?

ok in all seriousness
cartoons are the same as anime. except in the restrictions.
america's censorship laws uuurrrgh (the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.
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hazerddex said:
Anime and eastern Cartoon? so the difference between anime and anime?

ok in all seriousness
cartoons are the same as anime. except in the restrictions.
america's censorship laws uuurrrgh (the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.


What? Is there seriously a law that omits death from Cartoons?
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hazerddex said:
Anime and eastern Cartoon? so the difference between anime and anime?

ok in all seriousness
cartoons are the same as anime. except in the restrictions.
america's censorship laws uuurrrgh (the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.


What? Is there seriously a law that omits death from Cartoons?

yep

that's why in teen titens deathstroke is called slade instead.

that's why villains use the words destory instead of kill or die


don't believe me?

left westernized one piece right original
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"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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hazerddex said:
(the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.

That is just a myth and is not true... just look at family guy and south park
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
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Ghostony said:
hazerddex said:
(the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.

That is just a myth and is not true... just look at family guy and south park

nope its not a myth
family guy and south park where meant for adults true but they are not story driven.

shows like
batman animated joker was originality going to use a gun and kill be people but because people in america considered it a show for "children" they had to use laughing gas instead.
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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hazerddex said:
Ghostony said:
hazerddex said:
(the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.

That is just a myth and is not true... just look at family guy and south park

nope its not a myth
family guy and south park where meant for adults true but they are not story driven.

shows like
batman animated joker was originality going to use a gun and kill be people but because people in america considered it a show for "children" they had to use laughing gas instead.

You probably have never seen Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker...
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blue_sky05 said:
Anime is more mature and has a plot while cartoons is just for kids and its only comedy that`s their difference :)

There such things as adult cartoon such as like The Boondocks.
And not all of them are comedy.
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WhisperBit said:
hazerddex said:
Ghostony said:
hazerddex said:
(the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.

That is just a myth and is not true... just look at family guy and south park

nope its not a myth
family guy and south park where meant for adults true but they are not story driven.

shows like
batman animated joker was originality going to use a gun and kill be people but because people in america considered it a show for "children" they had to use laughing gas instead.

You probably have never seen Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker...

i have its a movie i was referring to tv shows not movies.
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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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hazerddex said:
Ghostony said:
hazerddex said:
(the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.

That is just a myth and is not true... just look at family guy and south park

nope its not a myth
family guy and south park where meant for adults true but they are not story driven.

shows like
batman animated joker was originality going to use a gun and kill be people but because people in america considered it a show for "children" they had to use laughing gas instead.


I'm not sure if you are implying that it's an unwritten rule or if there's an actual law in place.

I know in the recent Batman: The Dark Knight Returns the Joker is seen on a shooting spree killing innocent bystanders with a gun. Of course that is a very recent example but I see your point when I look at the past series.
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Forgetfulness said:
hazerddex said:
LordLagann said:
hazerddex said:
Anime and eastern Cartoon? so the difference between anime and anime?

ok in all seriousness
cartoons are the same as anime. except in the restrictions.
america's censorship laws uuurrrgh (the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.


What? Is there seriously a law that omits death from Cartoons?

yep

that's why in teen titens deathstroke is called slade instead.

that's why villains use the words destory instead of kill or die


don't believe me?

left westernized one piece right original


LOL what the heck is the contraption on the left supposed to be?


idk ask 4kids tv XD
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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hazerddex said:
Forgetfulness said:
hazerddex said:
LordLagann said:
hazerddex said:
Anime and eastern Cartoon? so the difference between anime and anime?

ok in all seriousness
cartoons are the same as anime. except in the restrictions.
america's censorship laws uuurrrgh (the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.


What? Is there seriously a law that omits death from Cartoons?

yep

that's why in teen titens deathstroke is called slade instead.

that's why villains use the words destory instead of kill or die


don't believe me?

left westernized one piece right original


LOL what the heck is the contraption on the left supposed to be?


idk ask 4kids tv XD


So they took out the gun and replaced it with a S&M accessory.

Well done, 4Kids.
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hazerddex said:
LordLagann said:
hazerddex said:
Anime and eastern Cartoon? so the difference between anime and anime?

ok in all seriousness
cartoons are the same as anime. except in the restrictions.
america's censorship laws uuurrrgh (the no death in cartoon rule to name one of the laws) its rare to get something decent.


What? Is there seriously a law that omits death from Cartoons?

yep

that's why in teen titens deathstroke is called slade instead.

that's why villains use the words destory instead of kill or die


don't believe me?

left westernized one piece right original
That's only for stuff on TV. Home video releases shouldn't have needless censoring (e.g. Dragon Ball Z Kai).

4kids is the only one that takes it too far even for TV.
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The difference between Western animation and Japanese animation is that, while the former thinks that cartoons are only for children, the latter has a vast variety of genres and they understand that there are different demographics that they should cater to.
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The differences are actually pretty obvious, they don't even need to be discussed lol. I'm just glad many people here on this site aren't ignorant, saying anime & cartoons aren't the same thing (when they really just want to note that there's a difference between western cartoons & japanese cartoons aka anime).
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DateYutaka said:
well the diffrece in animation ideals is dictaed by cultural ideals i think values dissonance on what is acctable to children is stricter in the west if an
anime is amied at a prtmey demograpic under the age of 19 or under its a kids show

cause you not adult untill your 20 that is black and white by law and the eyes of community

Translation: Well, the difference in animation ideals is dictated by cultural ideals. I think values dissonance on what is acceptable to children is stricter in the west. If an anime is aimed at a demographic under the age of 19, it's a kids show.

All I can say is that cartoons like Spiderman TAS or Superman TAS are aimed at the same demographic as Naruto, One Piece, Bleach etc. It's just that the west is more strict. You don't see people firing real guns in cartoons, yet you see people kill each anime for children. Heck, Zambot 3 is aimed at children, and there are fricking massacres, humans turning into bombs and friends exploding before the eyes of main characters (+ the tragic end). And it still doesn't change the fact it's aimed at children.

Aka everything is a cartoon, get over it. Just because there are cultural differences doesn't make anime any better than cartoons. Besides, there are better cartoons than most anime.

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