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| really enjoyed this ep yu vs margaret was the BEST~,.,i'm glad to see yoshitsune being used i didnt expect to see shadow yu there ^^' |
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| I didn't think it was possible for them to make something just as bad as Trinity Soul. They succeeded, unfortunately. I think I'll just pretend it doesn't even exist. Although, it DID seem better animated than the series itself was, I'll give it that. |
| As someone who havnt played the game yet. i was literally scratching my head after watching this episode. why were they being pulled by some shadowy hands, when did margaret appears and why are they fighting?. i had to read a summary on wiki just to understand what happened. except up to the part when they intruduce izanami, the pacing was terrible , everything else felt like random animation scenes pasted together to form an episode. |
| Uhm I think it's kinda okay for me, though I haven't played the game yet so this Ep. 26 kinda surprised me a bit. |
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| I expected this to be bad, but judging from the comments it seems like it was even worse. I don't expect them to do any better with P3, actually... Unless the staff and studio behind that are completely different. I also wouldn't worry about P2 since I don't see the possibility of it being adapted. Blackiris said: This is actually a bit funny, because you gave a 5 to a fairly decent adaptation, which pretty much followed the original material (not exactly, but still bearably well)... and in the same time you have shit-tier adaptations rated with nines and tens (F/sn, ef, Higurashi and a few more). Being faithful does not equal being good, though. While you can say the adaptation stayed pretty close to it's source material, it didn't work very well as an anime nor did it do any justice to the game. Certain things HAVE to be adapted when going from one medium to another, you can't just copy-paste the original and pray that it works. I can't speak much about the other 2 -I didn't like the Fate adaptation and didn't watch ef- but, while Higurashi may have been a lousy adaptation if analyzed through the lenses of a VN reader (I wouldn't know since I haven't read it yet, although I do plan to do that sometime in the near future), it still worked pretty well as an anime, and in the end that's what matters the most IMO. Now, Umineko, THAT didn't work neither as an anime nor as an adaptation. |
Lynx_7 said: Now, Umineko, THAT didn't work neither as an anime nor as an adaptation. Umineko did work as an anime. The people who read the VN hate it, but everyone else - like me - had a generally positive impression of it. And ef was a wonderful anime, so that guy has no point at all. *cough* right. I was surprised to see Margaret summon Lucifer. I didn't realise until now that Helel = Lucifer - I didn't level enough to see Helel in either P3 or P4, and the first time I saw him was as Lucifer in DS2. I wonder what the symbolic implication of her summoning him of all demons is...? And it was pretty awesome seeing the persona/demons one after another, with the names running through my mind. Izanami appearing was also neat. Other than that the episode sucked, the 'everyone dies' was offensively bad, I'd forgotten just how annoying they made the characters and how bad the voice acting was (I played the undub, and the voice track in the game was a million times better even with the same voice actors), so 5/10. Hopefully they won't leave Seiji Kishi and Yuuko Kakihara (look at their series! Their lists are full of bad adaptations and awful anime!) in charge of the compilation movie, or god forbid of Persona 3. |
KiralySep 8, 2012 5:55 AM
sushi55 said: I disagree with you guys; this was the single BEST episode of the anime. Yu recieved so much character development that he kept his place as one of best leads of the year. I don't think it was worth 6 months of waiting, but this anime came at a really bad time (Fate/Zero, Mawaru Penguindrum, Another, Stein's Gate etc) when animation and the overall quality of the shows this year rose to unprecedented levels.You know what? ALL VIDEO GAME TO ANIME ADAPTATIONS (save for some visual novel adaptations) are badly paced. Guess what? Persona 4 is the best video game (not including visual novels) to anime adaptation I've ever seen, and was meant only to promote the game (which it did a GREAT job at). So stop being critical, knowing ATLUS, they'll probably do something later (there's still the dub). Despite all it's problems, I loved this episode. 10/10. I have to quote you (except for the vote, for me it's a 9/10). It's really not easy to adapt a long RPG game, skipping the explorations and random battles. What No One is Alone gives us is character's development for Yu. We can see his shadow for the first time, his fears of being alone now that he must leave his friends. The true ending in the game wasn't great (I mean after the fight with Izanami), but here it's done well. Music side: I miss 'The Genesis' because it's one of the greatest tracks in Persona 4, but I've enjoyed the battle remix of the Velvet Room theme, it reminds me the final boss theme of Persona 3 [battle for everyone's souls], a bit more electronic and less rock. I have the feel 30 minutes are too few for what they tried to do in this episode. The whole 'time lock' and the confrontation with Yu's shadow took off too much time to the fights. Still, all the summons of Personas were great: Yoshitsune, Helel, Arahabaki, again Lucifer and Izanagi no Okami. So epic that being a fan of the game makes me love it. Not all the games adaptations are bad, it's just hard to do it for rpg games [a lot of anime from Visual Novels are great], where it's easy to deside to see every boss adapted. Compare it to Xenosaga: The Animation, 12 episodes for a game that is really long and full of scenes? And they changed parts of the story. It's my opinion, feel free to disagree. I know 'as an anime' it's not one of the best I've seen. But damn, it's the adaptation from one of my favorite games, I've seen what I wanted to see. I'm satisfied. But I'm a bit biased against Persona 3 Movie, they cannot adapt 40 hours into 1 or 2 hours. Kiraly said: Lynx_7 said: Now, Umineko, THAT didn't work neither as an anime nor as an adaptation. Umineko did work as an anime. The people who read the VN hate it, but everyone else - like me - had a generally positive impression of it. And ef was a wonderful anime, so that guy has no point at all. *cough* right. I was surprised to see Margaret summon Lucifer. I didn't realise until now that Helel = Lucifer - I didn't level enough to see Helel in either P3 or P4, and the first time I saw him was as Lucifer in DS2. I wonder what the symbolic implication of her summoning him of all demons is...? And it was pretty awesome seeing the persona/demons one after another, with the names running through my mind. Izanami appearing was also neat. Other than that the episode sucked, the 'everyone dies' was offensively bad, I'd forgotten just how annoying they made the characters and how bad the voice acting was (I played the undub, and the voice track in the game was a million times better even with the same voice actors), so 5/10. Hopefully they won't leave Seiji Kishi and Yuuko Kakihara (look at their series! Their lists are full of bad adaptations and awful anime!) in charge of the compilation movie, or god forbid of Persona 3. I liked Umineko anime before playing the games. And now I think the anime is poor, it doesn't give the message from the author and viewers miss important plot-points. Musics where great but too short (from 7 minutes to 3 minutes), scenes where fast, introspection was absent. If you play Umineko games, having enjoyed the anime, you will love them. But start from Ep.1, it's really hard to understand the whole story starting from Ep.5. Don't let the graph bother you, it has a soul! |
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Kiraly said: Lynx_7 said: Now, Umineko, THAT didn't work neither as an anime nor as an adaptation. Umineko did work as an anime. The people who read the VN hate it, but everyone else - like me - had a generally positive impression of it. And ef was a wonderful anime, so that guy has no point at all. I didn't play/read the Sound Novel and I was still very underwhelmed by the anime. In fact, I couldn't bring myself to finish it because it lacked all the atmosphere that made Higurashi good and I couldn't really care about what happened knowing that Battler could just deny and do it all over again. It's true they also did the loop thing in Higurashi, but at least there I cared about the characters and the mystery behind it was pretty intriguing and left me wanting to know more, something I honestly didn't feel with Umineko. The overall consensus I see about Umineko's anime is pretty mixed. I do know some people who really liked it, but I also know people who feel the same way as I do. The DVD/BD(?) sales were also very bad, or so I heard. I thought it was bad as an anime, and I hope the Novels can change my opinion about the story. I do hear many good things about Ef, though. It's on my Plan to Watch for quite some time... I'll watch it when I feel like watching some drama. Oh, I'm sorry, I won't derail the thread any longer, this is not a place to talk about this lol So... Helel, what an awesome dude, am I right guys? Uh, I'll edit this later after I watch the episode. Edit: Well, that was messy. Still, an enjoyable mess for me. I was expecting something worse based on the reactions here. It was very rushed, but not much worse than the rest of the series was. It's what I expected it to be. Nice bit of fanservice with the Personas in the battle between Margareth and Yuu. Izanami was VERY poorly done though. The "battle" (if you can call it that) was mediocre and the choices of music were just wrong. They played Mist in the preview but not in the actual episode? Guess they were just cock-teasing us. Now I'm eagerly awaiting for It could have been a lot better, but I still enjoyed it for the fanservice factor, and that's all this whole anime was worth for anyway. People who didn't play the game will just be utterly confused. |
YunoleffSep 12, 2012 12:50 PM
Miya_F_Exia said: sushi55 said: I disagree with you guys; this was the single BEST episode of the anime. Yu recieved so much character development that he kept his place as one of best leads of the year. I don't think it was worth 6 months of waiting, but this anime came at a really bad time (Fate/Zero, Mawaru Penguindrum, Another, Stein's Gate etc) when animation and the overall quality of the shows this year rose to unprecedented levels.You know what? ALL VIDEO GAME TO ANIME ADAPTATIONS (save for some visual novel adaptations) are badly paced. Guess what? Persona 4 is the best video game (not including visual novels) to anime adaptation I've ever seen, and was meant only to promote the game (which it did a GREAT job at). So stop being critical, knowing ATLUS, they'll probably do something later (there's still the dub). Despite all it's problems, I loved this episode. 10/10. You should stop posting as a stupid fangirl, giving those shitty excuses as to the reason why this adaptation was bullshit. It doesn't matter if all video game adaptations have bad pace. Persona 4 was unable to be better than them. It's as bad as that stupid Valkyria Chonicles and Xenosaga adaptations. And Yu, one of the best leads of the year? I can only imagine how bad the others are, given how he received "character development" only in the middle of the series. Even if it was only to promote the game (and fuck you Atlus, I'm tired of all this P4 promotion, you're overdoing it), it still should have been at least decent. All I can see is derp faces and horrible pace, to the point that all the hype for this goddamn adaptation became fucking nothing. And I'm tired of you Atlus-whores who keep saying they'll save the world (most probably they'll destroy it, at least that's their goal in most SMT/Persona games anyway). Atlus may have aided in the adaptation somehow (what an incompetent), but they didn't do this shitty adaptation by themselves. The studio did it. It's just like saying Atlus made P4U, which they didn't. Just to show their trust in the studio that this...thing, they didn't even do the animated cutscenes for Persona 4 Golden and Persona 4 Ultimate/Arena. And F/Z and other series rose the overall quality? Dude, P4 wasn't even decent. It was unBEARable to watch it. I usually don't even care for animation that much, but P4's was so bad I actually noticed it. I won't stop being critical, because I'm not a blind Atlus fangirl that believes that they'll handle everything perfectly. They make mistakes, they are not perfect and they allowed this dreadful adaptation to take place (and I'm going to pretend that you didn't mention the dub, because that means absolutely nothing. As if they'd do something different for just a dub). Well, they're getting money with it, so why should they care? Bullshit sells. *Sees K-ON given 7 on list* LOL. By the way, while there is nothing wrong with critically judging this episode, please use less swear words. We're debating as human beings, not as a pack of retards with no idea what to say. You have a good point, but seeing so much swearing in a paragraph... |
sushiisawesomeApr 11, 2013 11:13 PM
| "The more inexperienced you are, the more you want to show off." - Oreki, Hyouka |
| Ah, the soundtrack reminds me why Persona 4 is so awesome. It makes any fight great. But I wasn't sure on some plot points though, like battling Margret and the deja vu. It felt pretty rushed and too fast-paced for someone who hasn't experienced the game ending like me. I should get on that soon then. |
ChronosXIII said: As someone who has not played the game (and may never be able to), I thought the anime as a whole did its job of getting the majority of its plot out. This episode was pretty rushed and I was confused as all hell during the beginning-middle parts. Like, how did they ALL end up fighting Izanami? Only Yu left to talk to her and why did he keep looping until he talked to her? The fight scenes were nice though, just wish they had fleshed out what this True Ending was supposed to be cause it seems like a trainwreck. Still one of the more memorable animes I've watched in a while, haha. Go Rise. Nice to see someone enjoyed it in this sea of negative comments :) |
| "The more inexperienced you are, the more you want to show off." - Oreki, Hyouka |
| Episode felt pretty rushed but I still liked it. It looks like all Nakamura wanted was to never be alone and always have his friends by his side. |
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| 主花と雪千 ;A; We never learned Yuu's past, only everyone else's. But at least we got to see his Shadow briefly~ Ugh, poor Yuu, Groundhog's Day. @_@ That food looks so gross. It'd be cool if more series did alternate endings like this. I think the message behind the fog, wearing the glasses and Shadows is really interesting. That was good, speaking as person who hasn't played the game (yet). :3 |
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| Nicely adapted. I wish Igor broke character at least once in the anime. Would have been funny. 7.5/10 |
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| It was alright. 8/10 |
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teyorya said: As someone who havnt played the game yet. i was literally scratching my head after watching this episode. why were they being pulled by some shadowy hands, when did margaret appears and why are they fighting?. i had to read a summary on wiki just to understand what happened. except up to the part when they intruduce izanami, the pacing was terrible , everything else felt like random animation scenes pasted together to form an episode. agreed, especially the scene with margaret basically replacing the other dude (sry I forgot his name).. @_@ why would they fight against margaret, I thought she's on their side?! |
Vanessa-Nov 11, 2014 1:18 PM
Angel said: teyorya said: As someone who havnt played the game yet. i was literally scratching my head after watching this episode. why were they being pulled by some shadowy hands, when did margaret appears and why are they fighting?. i had to read a summary on wiki just to understand what happened. except up to the part when they intruduce izanami, the pacing was terrible , everything else felt like random animation scenes pasted together to form an episode. agreed, especially the scene with margaret basically replacing the other dude (sry I forgot his name).. @_@ why would they fight against margaret, I thought she's on their side?! That fight was in the game. However, in the game, she was only fighting Yu for fun. Here, she was trying to convince him to fight Izanami. |
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| Didn't really pay attention to the music so I wouldn't know about the OST. I honestly thought this episode was really good. The way things were handled seemed far less bullshit deus-ex-machina than in the game with having your friends cheer you on and somehow being able to beat a god. The animation was pretty poor, sure, but everything seemed cohesive given the time and material. 8/10 |
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| Hearing never more bring me right to the feels. This is actually a pretty important special they shold have made it a movie instead for better animation purposes. It was rushed but the plot is so awesome that it carries that couple of flows. What a beautiful ending :') |
| Disappointing tbh. It jumped around too much and the pacing was just weird. |
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| Well that certainly was a flashy and confusing ending. But I should point out I've never actually played Persona 4, or really any Persona with one notable exception, so that's probably why. Why did I watch this series if I've never played the game you ask? Well it's because I've been playing through Persona Q on the 3DS using the Persona 4 characters, and I really enjoy their chemistry in that game. To the extent that I'm over 60 hours in still enjoying it. And since I'll never own a non-Nintendo video game console again, I figured I'd check this out to see more of them. And as a whole this series was....just okay. A bit on the boring side I'm sorry to say. The art style took me awhile to get used to after familiarizing myself with how the characters look in Persona Q which is vastly different. And that first stretch of 8 or 10 or however many episodes where everyone faced their shadows felt particularly monotonous and repetitive. Even the slice of life stuff wasn't really clicking much with me early on. It did get better as it went on, and I still ultimately enjoyed the main group of characters, but the mystery was never really one. I never checked spoilers and never played the game and still figured out the one behind it all was Adachi extremely early on. How? He was pretty much the only recurring character it could have been! Honestly the only other one I can think of right now is the takeout delivery girl and it obviously wasn't her. It may as well not have been a mystery at all. But I do assume that was probably handled better in the game where you're given freedom of exploration. I liked that Nanako lived as she was a darling, but that whole storyline really was rather cheap, by which I mean emotionally manipulative. Which is fine I guess I mean normally I don't mind that if it leads to me getting what I want but eh. So yeah, overall a serviceable viewing experience but probably not one I'll ever long to experience again. I saw there was apparently a 12 or 13 episode remake that came out but I don't think I'll bother with that. Instead I'm looking forward to finishing off Persona Q possibly as soon as later on tonight and certainly sometime this week. 6/10. |
| So this is the true ending, bit rushed but still good. Totally forgot about the gasstation guy from ep 1. Well we now know who created the midnight channel, the fog and stuff. Yuu really went insane there in his shadow illusion even improving the recept of the poison (who in their right mind does this?). |
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| Now I'm a bit disappointed about P5 Royal, since that arc is pretty much the same from what we've got here. Anyway, both the main show and the true ending were 6/10. The jokes were fun, but not enough for it to be entertaining by itself. And if I haven't played the game, this might have been a 4/10 experience. |
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| Felt rushed but still good to have Izanami's defeat ending I guess, but well, not on the level of what followed next (Golden) |
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