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May 12, 2012 7:41 PM
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Wasn't much of a move. Good to be back in the present though.
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May 12, 2012 7:46 PM
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Red_Zealot said:

Wasn't much of a move.


Ha, agreed.

Still, strong resolves are strong. Great dialogue from them when back to the present.

On a side note, I liked the animation in this episode. There was a bit of extra movement and detail; it felt more movie quality. Just a little, but it seemed better to me.
May 12, 2012 7:56 PM
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Another amazing episode from Toei.I remember this is where I caught up with the manga last year,ahh good times.I hope most watchers will take a good lesson from this flashback about racism & prejudice.
Yup,a human killed Otohime,who else would?Hordy?You're out of your mind.
And yup,Luffy slept through the whole backstory of fishman island.I remember that irritating some people & I say,"People,it's Luffy.He doesn't care about a history lesson".
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May 12, 2012 8:26 PM
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Good episode but extremely happy to be back to the present.

1.It's good to know that they've managed to collect enough signatures, This move will surely have a major impact on OP.

2.Fishmen vs. Luffy's crew. LETS GO! :}
May 12, 2012 8:35 PM
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Finally, the flashback has been done.
I felt sad when Jimbei cried.

Now I cannot wait for Luffy and others to kick some fishmen-butt.
I am guessing the battle will start after the next week's episode.
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May 12, 2012 9:21 PM
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I was wondering when they'd get to Luffy sleeping. Fannntastic


Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IonwPmiXLf0
May 13, 2012 12:58 AM
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Thank you for the Preview , So next week no Fight .

Its going slow , but i don't mind , as its is better than filler arc .Let them take their time .This episode was a bit sad but now as 546.

Luffy fooled me there , i wondered , its the first time he ever would hear History
May 13, 2012 1:07 AM
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Finally, flashbacks are over.
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May 13, 2012 1:55 AM
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Finally the flashbacks are over, but they were pretty nice I guess. I like how the manga is still pretty far ahead of the anime (at chapter 666 while anime just got to 627), so no fillers for a while I guess.

Can't wait for the epic Straw Hat action that will happen pretty soon.
May 13, 2012 3:46 AM

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Next week will be it. Action time.
May 13, 2012 4:05 AM

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Back to the present.

Feel sympathy for Jinbei there.

And Hordy is make his move!
May 13, 2012 4:07 AM

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Can't wait. Its going to be good now.
May 13, 2012 6:32 AM

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Happy that the flashback is over and we can move the story forward. Can''t wait for the Strawhats vs New Fishmen Pirates.

Overall chapter 8/10.
May 13, 2012 6:39 AM

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Flashbacks off now and time to serious battle <3
Luffy was sleeping almost all the time during story :) that was fun.

5/5

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May 13, 2012 7:23 AM

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Finally we are back to the present. Come on Luffy! Beat up that Hordy!
May 13, 2012 7:38 AM

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It is epic to see that Sanji is bossing around to someone as strong as Jimbei.
Mugiwara Ichimi has a really high reputation and fame around the world now.
May 13, 2012 11:46 AM

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Funny how all this time I've praised the flasbacks, but now I thought all that crying and explaining Neptune's motives and such took too long. Glad to be finally back to the present.

Nami forgiving Jimbei and him crying manly tears was awesome and touching. And was it just me, but I haven't heard Nami's voice in at'least a month and it was really refreshing to hear a familiar voice once again. And all the other Straw Hats voices as well ofc. Also nice to see that they upped the animation for the present-scene.
May 13, 2012 12:21 PM

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Good to be back in the present.. Thank God Nami stopped Sanji's drama.. Is it just me or does Luffy's hat and Nami's whole body in general seem out of proportion?.. Her body is so tiny and these massive boobs look like they could break her neck if she bent down.. Sam with Luffy's hat it's all kinda circly and stuff..

Shirahoshi is so freaking cute!
May 13, 2012 12:21 PM

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NOW shi* got serious.
May 13, 2012 1:00 PM

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Varieso said:
Good to be back in the present.. Thank God Nami stopped Sanji's drama.. Is it just me or does Luffy's hat and Nami's whole body in general seem out of proportion?.. Her body is so tiny and these massive boobs look like they could break her neck if she bent down.. Sam with Luffy's hat it's all kinda circly and stuff..

Shirahoshi is so freaking cute!

I don't know about the strawhat,but I'm sure Nami's boobs is normal like every other anime girl with big boobs ^^.
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May 13, 2012 4:01 PM

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great flashback finished sooner than i though wonder what will happen next
May 14, 2012 11:52 PM

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I guess 2 weeks from now its gonna be
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May 15, 2012 7:04 AM

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Nice end to the flashback. Typical Luffy to fall asleep xD
May 16, 2012 7:05 AM

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I am a loser. HORDY JONES DA! is what he should have said.im surprised Jimbei spent so mch time talking and the Hordy was just in the castle slacking lolol XD

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May 17, 2012 12:21 PM

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That was great. So glad flashbacks are over.
May 17, 2012 12:49 PM

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Woohoo flashbacks are over! I'm excited for what next :D
May 18, 2012 3:36 PM

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On a side note, I liked the animation in this episode. There was a bit of extra movement and detail; it felt more movie quality. Just a little, but it seemed better to me.


I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed the quality of animation this episode. Funny how a little extra movement goes a long way. Wish it was something we could see more than once in a while.
May 18, 2012 5:14 PM

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Yohooo!

Finally we'll be back to what we have been waiting for (the future)!

5/5!

Can't wait to see some badass fights!!

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Jun 9, 2012 6:36 PM

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Great flashback, although not my favorite of the bunch. Still Arlong is a great character and seeing him reanimated was a big plus. On to the storyline.
Jun 25, 2012 8:54 PM

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As much as I love Sanji's character, I thought what he was saying went a little too far. Glad to be back to the present! I can't wait for the upcoming fights.
Jul 12, 2012 5:17 AM

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"I'm sorry, that took a lot of time."

JIMBEI BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL
Aug 3, 2012 7:22 PM

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as much as ive loved sanji and his pervertedness throughout the series he went to far this ep. i mean the things he did for nami/ robin previously were minor and trivial things to laugh about but this ep he asked a former warlord/ luffy's friend to gut himself. i mean r u freakin serious? O.O
dude lost my respect.....
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Aug 8, 2012 9:16 AM

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lol, luffy. (ᴗ˳ᴗ)

i get a feeling next ep is gonna get good, luffy had his badass face on in the preview.
Sep 11, 2012 6:47 AM

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Nami has officially won my personal award for most badass female character. Also loved Jinbei in this ep. I'm ready for some action now, bring it on. xD

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I don't know about the strawhat,but I'm sure Nami's boobs is normal like every other anime girl with big boobs ^^.


I'm sorry but...you need to get your eyes checked asap. Animation concerning girls' bodies, and especially Nami's, has gotten pretty damn fucked up. The problem is the relation boobs-waist. She practically has such a thin waist it's not only impossible for a normal human being but it's also looking VERY freaky.


Dec 15, 2012 9:44 AM

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FUnny how luffy didn't listen to the story..

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Feb 10, 2014 5:51 PM

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King's reaction and speech were very touching, Nami's answer to Jimbei was badass and cool and Luffy was ... XD XD XD Overall nice episode.
Jun 5, 2014 5:30 AM

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Hmm.. I think Luffy just pretended to sleep
You know, Jinbei was crying.. He's trying to be considerated
Or Luffy just didn't give a fuc- I mean Luffy just didn't care xD

Time to kick some ass*s (Wrong censor? xD)

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"I'm sorry, that took a lot of time."

JIMBEI BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL

Lol
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Next.

Jul 1, 2015 11:11 PM

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wtf sanji fuck off after listening to the story still you wanted him to cut himself.

And luffy you never change xDDD it actually kinda bothered me that he didn't listen the story, it would've made him angry af
Oct 20, 2015 1:26 PM
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Urgh, my hate for Sanji returns...he's such a dick.
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Lel what's with Sanji? Oh wait the ultra bias towards girls as usual.

Never really liked him
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Sep 11, 2016 7:37 PM
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Yup,a human killed Otohime,who else would?Hordy? You're out of your mind.


How is it stupid to believe that Hordy could have done that? Hordy has all the right motives. He despised the queen and humans. (As shown by asking people to trample on her face) He's narrow sighted and believed that going to the surface to live with lesser beings was disgusting. So if he shot the queen, had a pirate at his disposal so he could just kill him and blame him. Then he would gain the support of many, many who already were uncertain about humans and now despise them. Furthering his goal of making Fishman Island a fishman only spot.
Oct 28, 2016 9:21 AM

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That ugly blonde bastard scum should cut his existence.
Respect lost for that perverted subhuman
Feb 10, 2017 5:09 PM
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Neptune is an idiot for letting his wife make stupid decisions.
Aug 13, 2017 4:48 AM
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Finally back to the present, but it was one of the nicer flashbacks


Oct 21, 2017 4:11 AM

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I want episodes that won't make me cry!
Lol, Luffy was sleeping.
I'm glad that Nami doesn't hate Jinbe.
Oct 29, 2017 9:21 AM

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Luffy always seems to find it difficult to follow backstories. I don't blame him with all of these sad backstories.


And yeah, having a human kill the queen was way too convenient to fuel their hatred towards humans. Hordy has a hand in this.
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Did a human we've never seen before really kill Otohime? Although Hordy didn't seem like he was faking his reactions, the genuine reactions of his seemed to come from Jimbei trying to hide the body. Rather, a human with a gun was shot and not even questioned. Hordy has shown himself to show no mercy to human sympathizing fishmen, and even his own allies(using one as a meat shield). Is it so crazy to suggest he assassinated Otohime back when the signatures were coming in? If it was a move to stop fishmen from living under the sun then we can see it happening again right now as the time to move was nearing.

The princes and Shirahoshi being so dutiful to take over their mothers wish and having Jimbei pull a Tiger and try to hide the body was touching stuff.

The themes of this arc feel super on the nose. They're great don't get me wrong, Jimbei asking what he should do with his anger, or Neptune asking why he shouldn't kill the man who shot his wife are perfect examples of the unavoidable hatred and resentment we can feel as people. Further, acting not out of necessity like Tiger, but out of hate like Arlong or Hordy will almost always keep the fight going forever. But, the way it's spelt out so clearly over and over again makes it feel a little cheesy.

I was wondering why Luffy, the guy who walked away from Nami's backstory, was so interested in this one. I presumed it may be because so many people he cares about are deeply linked to it. However, the joke this time was that he was just doing what he always does, sleeping from the start of the backstory. That was good, and having Franky shout and cry after the story was a great touch of comedy, Franky is great. Then having Jimbei break down being moved by Nami showing altruism only seen in some of the most legendary people he's ever known was nice too. I mean she did forgive Hachi!!!

Then, Hordy... I won't lie, having Hachi remark exactly what I've picked up felt really good! Hordy is so hateful and horrible, even to his own- the people Arlong called his brethren. He endorsed the brutalizing of Hachi, he has his men storming the fishman streets, and unlike what Hachi suggested with him showing no mercy to human sympathizers- HE USED HIS OWN ALLY AS A MEAT SHIELD! It's not just human sympathizers.. Hordy is a super interesting villain to me, as a warped version of the already warped Arlong. He somehow shows Arlong's strengths in contrast to his own, something I never thought I'd see, and I'm fascinated by his motives.
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Hordy's suspicious as hell. Of course he did it lmao

Fukaboshi's speech that rallied the people to continue to follow Otohime's footsteps no matter what was a very emotionally-driven and inspirational moment. I'm glad that they didn't give into despair even after seeing their mother die right before their eyes.

Nami's response was the most rational and level-headed answer ever. She didn't lash out on someone else for another person's actions and she refused to let her hatred fester into something that will ultimately drag her down. Kudos to her.








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Yup... Classic Luffy.
The only time I wanna punch Sanji was when he told Jimbei to give up his life.
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